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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I couldn't care what he says about MJ, Prince or whoever.....he can go and :girl_feminist::censored:
 
Annita;4161856 said:
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Thanks I almost forgot about that. It was pretty good, but I think Tom knows who is behind the latest smear campaigns in Radar etc.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

RedMaryFlint said:
I'm not an expert either, but I would guess narcissistic personality disorder, not unlike other people who have latched onto MJ. Wade's feelings of victimization are real to him, it's just that he's not actually a victim of anything, except perhaps childhood stardom, and you can't sue anyone for that. He's constructed a whole new identity for himself to justify those feelings, even as he knows damned well nothing ever happened. He should worry a little less about how to fool a psychologist and a little more about what he might give away unintentionally.
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Yes, I do think that's what it is. I do think he feels a victim of a lost childhood. He possibly even (partly) blames MJ for it because he encouraged him and because he was the one who was set as an example for him when he pursued his career as a child. That blame is misguided, of course, because there is nothing wrong with encouraging a child who seems to want that career. If he didn't really want it it should have been his mother paying attention to it. MJ encouraged him to pursue his dream but that's where his role ended. It was Robson's mother who took him to all kind of auditions, who pushed him hard for that career. According to her in interviews from the 90s MJ wasn't really around that much. But I think Robson misguides that blame for his lost childhood and projects it onto MJ. So I can see him feeling resentment to him. But you cannot sue someone for encouraging you as a child, nor for telling you things like you would be a new Spielberg. That won't finance your early retirement in Hawaii. So he had to come up with something that you can sue for - enter false child abuse allegations. Which is the convenient thing to do when it comes to MJ, as others have already set the tone in how to exploit that big lie.
 
respect77;4161784 said:
If someone is wondering: it's just a rock website rehashing his old comments about MJ or him restating those comments again. Same BS as before. He claims that a travel agent of MJ testified that he brought back boys from Brazil for MJ. Never happened. No such testimony was ever given. He claims that MJ is on tape admitting he gave kids "Jesus Juice". Never happened. There is no such a tape. And he claims someone who knows in the industry and played on one of MJ's tour quit because he saw boys coming out of his room. I doubt this happened either. Just same ol' BS by Simmons. He is so pressed about MJ that he makes up things.
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They always have to make shit up to make a case against him, fake FBI filed, non-existent child porn, phantom victims because the facts supports his innocence
they don't want to talk about those. For those who missed it back in 2010 Charles Thompson wrote about the Simmons allegations:

Michael Jackson: It’s Time For Outlets to Take Responsibility in Covering the Rock Star

Last week Michael Jackson’s guitarist discredited widely reported allegations about the star’s behaviour on the road. So why is the media refusing to publish her comments? British writer Charles Thomson explores media bias against black music’s biggest star.

Aging glam-rocker Gene Simmons made international headlines last month when he claimed to know that Michael Jackson had molested children. In an interview with Classic Rock, Simmons alleged that Jackson was on tape ordering alcohol for children and that during the star’s 2005 trial a travel agent had testified to importing Brazilian boys for Jackson’s amusement. He also claimed that a musician friend had quit a Jackson tour after seeing ‘boys coming out of the hotel rooms.’

What followed was a classic example of copy and paste journalism. Within hours the story had been duplicated by hundreds of blogs, forums and news websites from Australia to India to the USA. None of them had fact-checked the story before they re-hosted it. Jackson was never on tape ordering alcohol for children. There was never any testimony during his trial about young Brazilian boys. Both of these claims were easily disproven by trial transcripts.

As a relative Jackson expert, I was also unaware of any musician ever leaving one of the singer’s tours midway through. So when I sat down a fortnight ago for an interview with Jackson’s long serving tour guitarist Jennifer Batten, I ran the story by her.

She told me that no musician had ever quit a Jackson tour. Two musicians had been fired but both were let go before the show hit the road, so they couldn’t possibly have witnessed anything going on inside hotels.

When Sawf News published Batten’s rebuttal I observed an all too familiar phenomenon. Although the story appeared on Google News and was picked up fairly swiftly by the Examiner, nobody else seemed willing to touch it. Whilst Simmons’s speculative and ultimately baseless accusations had been reproduced the world over, Batten’s expert rebuttal was being suppressed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-thomson/michael-jackson-its-time_b_482176.html
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The way I see it, the only TRUTH in this as wade said.. This came about after having his son.. I believe him there, I believe that once he had his son and wanted to be close to his family he simply did NOT want to work anymore and have 'good' financial comfort for the rest of his and his child's life.

So yes, this came about after having his son...

He makes this crap up, he can be around his family more and his sons college tuition would be set...


He 'claims' he Is to distraught to dance after this aka. can't get people that want to work with him... If he were distraught he wouldn't have taken the gig on SYTYCD after the allegation.
 
^^^

Michael became the medias and the publics jester long ago. It works, has been working for decades. Public is amused, media / yellow press is making money. It won´t stop. :eviltongue::depressed:
 
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KOPV said:
The way I see it, the only TRUTH in this as wade said.. This came about after having his son.. I believe him there, I believe that once he had his son and wanted to be close to his family he simply did NOT want to work anymore and have 'good' financial comfort for the rest of his and his child's life.

So yes, this came about after having his son...

He makes this crap up, he can be around his family more and his sons college tuition would be set...


He 'claims' he Is to distraught to dance after this aka. can't get people that want to work with him... If he were distraught he wouldn't have taken the gig on SYTYCD after the allegation.
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He was on SYTYCD after his allegations? I thought he was long gone.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^ He wasn't physically on it (unless I am forgetting now) but that same year he started the allegations he choreographed a group # with all the remaining contestants.. After that, never did we hear from him on that show again.. Thankfully, I remember being pretty upset that they were giving him work.
 
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It just break my heart to see Michael name being drag throw the mud again and Michael is not here to defend himself why is it that the world can't believe that he is being set up the facts are there that Michael didn't do this he has been found not guilty in a court of law why is it the ppls can not believe that. Why do they tale a lie over the truth sad to see does the truth matter anymore .:(
 
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#MJforever57 said:
It just break my heart to see Michael name being drag throw the mud again and Michael is not here to defend himself why is it that the world can't believe that he is being set up the facts are there that Michael didn't do this he has been found not guilty in a court of law why is it the ppls can not believe that. Why do they tale a lie over the truth sad to see does the truth matter anymore .:(
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This is just the way it is for some jerks nowadays. MJ is not the only but it a trend now. As cute as Blue Iv was this week, there were nut job trashing this beautiful baby. Sick.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

What a world we live in. You are right Terrell sick.
 
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respect77 said:
I think they also want the two take place close to one another so that whatever lies he is telling one won't easily forget for the next round.
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Which is so obvious it's funny. And great.

I agree too that it's because he's hoping if the depo is done before MJ's birthday that he can leak parts of it out and continue his trashing of him in the press.

He's nothing if not a proven calculated manipulator.

redfrog said:
WTF he did that? Which rape victim would post tabloid articles about his rape?
I hope he Estate documented this behavior. I would also like to know whose handwriting is that on the police report
and why Zonen wanted to talk and with exactly who. If Robson's connection to this vile tabloid could be proven
it would further undermine his credibility.
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Yes, he posted a link to the article Radar had of his testimony where he graphically recounted the alleged rape to the point of claiming MJ enjoyed making him bend over like a dog so he could spend hours licking his asshole. He thought it was healthy and healing to have all his family and friends read that.

It reminded me of when you read about someone committing an act of murder, and when you hear about how they were killed brutally, with 40-50 stab wounds, how their dead bodies were mutilated more after their death, like having their hearts ripped out, or their faces repeatedly brutalized till they're unrecognizable, how they try and alter the body in some way when dead like covering the face up or making them face the wall or whatever... that's how you know when it's likely this person had a connection to that dead body, like they were a friend/relative, and had so much anger and hate when killing that person they went to those lengths. Strangers rarely get so emotional in murders. It's only when you have so much emotion in a killing that you do those things, which is when you know it's personal.

That's what that sort of thing reminds me of - Wade's cold blooded attempt to try and make everyone hate MJ. Make all his family/friends who read that feel shocked and horrified and disgusted by him. It's like getting a dead body out and just stabbing it there repeatedly for them. Just trying to brutalize and disfigure him as much as possible. Just SO cold blooded it's unnerving to me.

It feels so cold and detached and brutal... it's not about your peace and healing, NO victim needs the world to graphically know what happened to them. That's what you do when you want to get revenge on someone and ruin them in the worst way.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I think he will do that too, launch another attack to smear and make money out of it, with the help of Radar of course.
 
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la_cienega said:
Yes, he posted a link to the article Radar had of his testimony where he graphically recounted the alleged rape to the point of claiming MJ enjoyed making him bend over like a dog so he could spend hours licking his asshole. He thought it was healthy and healing to have all his family and friends read that.
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Moreover, either Amanda or Chantal (don't remember which), reposted that article accompanied by a little heart emoicon. That's another WTH moment. What's so lovely about an article that graphically describes the brutal rape of your husband/brother? It just shows to me that none of these people emotionally relate to these allegations.

And BTW, Radar Online is basically the online version of the National Enquirer. One of the filthiest, least reliable, lowest of low tabloids. TMZ is classy investigative journalism in comparation. It is very telling that Robson teamed up with this Radar/Enquirer bunch. Just like the Chandlers used to do, by the way.
 
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respect77 said:
Moreover, either Amanda or Chantal (don't remember which), reposted that article accompanied by a little heart emoicon. That's another WTH moment. What's so lovely about an article that graphically describes the brutal rape of your husband/brother? It just shows to me that none of these people emotionally relate to these allegations.

And BTW, Radar Online is basically the online version of the National Enquirer. One of the filthiest, least reliable, lowest of low tabloids. TMZ is classy investigative journalism in comparation. It is very telling that Robson teamed up with this Radar/Enquirer bunch. Just like the Chandlers used to do, by the way.
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Yuuuuuup he has most definitely taken pages out of the Chandler's play book!
 
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la_cienega said:
Yes, he posted a link to the article Radar had of his testimony where he graphically recounted the alleged rape to the point of claiming MJ enjoyed making him bend over like a dog so he could spend hours licking his asshole. .
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And after knowing that his sister went on to sell MJ's picture on ebay.
Happens in every good family, I guess. :scratch:

Robson took a gay porn movie and put everything he saw into his lawsuit.
It's obvious he wants to scare the Estate into a settlement. Initially he didn't want anyone to read those details just the Estate, he wanted his stuff under seal.
But the more outrageous he makes it sound the less believable it is that he didn't realize it was wrong.
No grown man would believe that doing THAT to a child is consensual love. That's not possible unless they are NAMBLA members.
You don't need to imagine that to be done on your own son to know that it's very very wrong.
I've never heard such bullshit from any real molestation victim. Never.

Actually if it wasn't tragic it would be funny. Robson said he was looking forward to have sexual contact with MJ.
Imagine being asked on cross-exam: were you looking forward for MJ licking your asshole?
Did you believe even at age 29 that a man licking a child's asshole is consensual love?

Imagine the reaction when he would say Yes.
And you saw nothing wrong with that?
No.
Even after MJ called it "disgusting sexual stuff" you still believed there was nothing wrong it?
Oh well....

Seriously, this should be televised. Crazier than Janet Arvizo's hot air balloon.
 
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I´m so so so disgusted by all these allegation and the behaviour of Robson. I´m angry, too.

I wanna puke everything I´ve read about the WR case out of my brain ...


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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I think I missed this "story" first time around. Thank goodness. Haven't read anything quite so disgusting.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Well that tears it. I'm gonna get my hockey stick ready.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

They always make the same mistake. Making their allegations so ridiculously OTT. They cant help themselves.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Well the discovery has been a waste of time nothing new all old news I wonder what the judge is thinking it very clear Wade and his lawyers have no proof at all it all lies nothing to back up his claim that he has been abuse.


Any news yet?
 
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wait wait wait.. I obviously missed part of the story.. what is this licking of @$$ hole talk?? I don't care how young you are, something like THAT would not seem 'normal' to a young child..

No kid Is going to have there @$$ up letting someone lick it out of love and believe that.. the kid at that age just got used to the idea of wiping his own @$$ and we're supposed to believe Michael was manipulative enough to have a child feel comfortable enough to bend over and get licked??

BULL!!

I literally get the creeps typing that...
 
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#MJforever57 said:
Well the discovery has been a waste of time nothing new all old news I wonder what the judge is thinking it very clear Wade and his lawyers have no proof at all it all lies nothing to back up his claim that he has been abuse.


Any news yet?
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It's really too soon for news. I don't expect the mental examination results to be published.
 
KOPV;4162077 said:
wait wait wait.. I obviously missed part of the story.. what is this licking of @$$ hole talk?? I don't care how young you are, something like THAT would not seem 'normal' to a young child..

No kid Is going to have there @$$ up letting someone lick it out of love and believe that.. the kid at that age just got used to the idea of wiping his own @$$ and we're supposed to believe Michael was manipulative enough to have a child feel comfortable enough to bend over and get licked??

BULL!!

I literally get the creeps typing that...
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I'm not even religious but the way MJ has been treated almost makes me believe in the devil.
More dehumanizing degrading things have been said and written about MJ than about Hitler.
People enjoy humiliating him. They get a kick out of it. It makes them feel powerful. These nobodies
like Blanca Francia really enjoyed the attention and the illusion of power that they can bring down
someone as big as MJ.
Remember when Evan Chandler said so gleefully
"this guy's gonna be humiliated beyond his worse nightmare".

And these things are said about someone like this:


SB: So the women you have dated, the ones who were smart enough not to throw themselves
at you, were they the ones that you were more interested in , the ones who weren't always
available and you had to chase them a bit?
MJ: The ones who were classy and quiet and not into all the sex and all the craziness because
I am not into that.
SB: They are the ones that you are more interested in?
MJ: I don't understand a lot of things that go on in relationships and I don't know if I ever will.
I think that is waht has hurt me in my relationships because I don't understand how people
do some of the things they do.
SB: Mean things?
MJ: Mean things and vulgar things with their bodies. I don't understand it and it has hurt my
relationship.
SB: So for you love is something very pure?
MJ: Very pure. It shocked me some of the things...
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And this:

“He was a guy who was so innocent, so kind of sheltered, you couldn’t even swear around him. You couldn’t talk about drugs, you couldn’t talk about nude women, you couldn’t talk about sex. You couldn’t talk about anything, because he was a very religious man for much of the early stages of his life and career.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/01/feldman-michael-jackson_n_4191548.html
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And this:

There are a couple of other things about Michael that I should here emphasize because one hears very little about them
in the media and because they do I believe have a bearing on the present day perceptions of him as they go to this current
highly publicized legal troubles. The one is that Michael is always very prissy and proper and prim and the very essence of the
proverbial Victorian old maid. Profanity , vulgarity, bad language and all such other improprieties of speech are things that
just might cause him to all but faint. And as to sex itself, this is a something that he can't bring himself to even mention or
give thought. In a moment of unintended self-revelation he himself once told me (with his hand cupped over his mouth in a
gesture of "I shouldn't") about how a highly popular female entertainer (I'll withhold the name) had once "exposed herself"
to him (his words) just to see how he would react: a confession that caused him to visibly blush. I noticed and through layers of
pancake yet! The other thing about Michael, over and above this rather quaintly prudish and even puritanical attitude is that
attribute of which I have had some cause to mention before, and this is that he is also an absolute scaredy-cat, a fellow who is
perfectly terrified of his own shadow.
http://jetzi-mjvideo.com/books-jetzi-04/05lb/05lb34.html
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Producer Mark Ronson once tried to make his childhood pal Michael Jackson watch porn - but the pop superstar hated the experience and wasn't amused.
Ronson, whose father Laurence was a band manager, used to spend his time in the company of John Lennon's son Sean and Jackson as they were growing up.
The trio would frequently have sleepovers - but when Ronson and Lennon used to switch over the TV to the pornography channel, Jackson was left cringing with embarrassment.
He recalls, "It's a weird story, but I didn't touch him. We (Ronson and Lennon) used to watch the porn channel because we were like 10 and, 'Oh my God, tits!' So Michael was in bed. And me and Sean said, 'Michael do you want to see something cool?'
"We turned the dial to the porn channel and there were strippers shaking their tits around. We were like, 'Michael, Michael, how cool is this?' We turned around and he was cringing, saying, 'Ooh stop it, stop it, ooh it's so silly.' We were like, 'Michael, you have to look, maybe you're not seeing it right, it's naked girls!'
"He was not down with the programme whatsoever! I think he had really strong feminist views on porn."
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Not to mention this:

Michael had a skin disease called leukoderma, which created huge patches of white. He had, as a result, a very, very poor image of his body. He was almost ashamed of it. That's why he would cover it up. Why do you think he wore a glove and all that stuff? He would not go into his swimming pool in his own house with his clothes off. He would just jump into the pool at the last moment, you know, take his robe off, but he was ashamed that people would look at all the blotches on his skin.
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1907409_1907413_1907555,00.html
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But yeah he would shower in front of Robson, show him porn and do all those "disgusting sexual stuff" with him.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Clearly text book con game 101. I wonder what book or filmed he watched to get that idea to lie about MJ. that is almost a crazy as that other fool about the lie in the hot air balloon and saying they could not see the time (even though all the MJ's clocked worked and the big Neverland clock was working.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Looks like the Santa Barbara court site that had the court filings is back up. I went to check if it was still down and there it was and it seems the files are all there. Lets hope it stays up.
http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/ctdocs.php

I didn't take a in-depth look so I can't say if any are missing.
 
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SarahJ said:
Looks like the Santa Barbara court site that had the court filings is back up. I went to check if it was still down and there it was and it seems the files are all there. Lets hope it stays up.
http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/ctdocs.php

I didn't take a in-depth look so I can't say if any are missing.
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That's cool.
 
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