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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe
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I have said the judge may know Wade is full of it but still, as the judge, the judge must listen and then throw it out when the time comes.
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Just thankful the judge didn't fall for the suicide story.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Just another lie that the judge have to listen too he will just add it to his stack.
What a lawsuit this has turn out to be all of these stories and lies going in different direction.
Just another lie that the judge have to listen too he will just add it to his stack.
What a lawsuit this has turn out to be all of these stories and lies going in different direction.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
How do you know? Is it now a sure thing he will be deposed in October not sooner?
How do you know? Is it now a sure thing he will be deposed in October not sooner?
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The lawyers gotta make the money. Unfortunatly the U.S civil and criminal system is viewed as a joke across the world
The lawyers gotta make the money. Unfortunatly the U.S civil and criminal system is viewed as a joke across the world
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oh, think I just assumed it since all the stories about it "disappeared". Guess it's not official.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I am not really worried about this case any more than the quick headlines people read when Wade comes up with something new.. I don' think an judge, Jury or who ever actually is involved with the case actually believe this crap
I am not really worried about this case any more than the quick headlines people read when Wade comes up with something new.. I don' think an judge, Jury or who ever actually is involved with the case actually believe this crap
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This piece by Diane Dimond (It came up as a twitter link) on today of all days, struck me as mightily ironic.....
I can think of someone else who has had complete exoneration......it’s mighty hard to undo years of (false) public perception. Where does he go now for relief from decades of undeserved castigation?
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The Problem With Sex Offender Registries
by Diane Dimond on August 29, 2016
He was accused of an unspeakable crime he did not commit. For 27 years Earnest Leap of Oakview, Missouri has lived with the ugly label, “child molester.” With his name on a publicly available sex registry the word quickly spread that he had sexually abused his own son and had “admitted” it in court.
The facts of Leap’s case make it clear it could happen to anyone in the midst of a contentious child custody case.
In the fall of 1989, following an antagonistic divorce, a judge ruled that Earnest and Karen Leap would share custody of their sons, 5-year-old Brodie and toddler Josh. Primary custody was awarded to Earnest and the boys would live most of the time with their father.
Within months of that ruling Brodie – now 32 – remembers his mother “incessantly” cajoling him to say his father had sexually abused him. Brodie, motivated by a terrible guilt, has spent much of his adult life trying to undo the damage.
Hauled into court to face child abuse allegations Earnest took the flawed advice of his public defender and accepted a deal to plead “no contest” to the charge. The deal included no jail time, a guarantee that his record would disappear in three years – and most important to Earnest – it would spare his son from having to testify at a difficult trial. Back then there was no such thing as a sex registry.
Then in 1994, a federal law required every state to establish a public registry listing every person convicted of a sex crime. In Missouri, Earnest Leap was forced to register as a sex offender and remain on the registry for the rest of his life. His world began to fall apart, his movements limited by the rule that an offender may not be in proximity to or live near minors. Imagine going through life having to dodge schools, malls, parks, theaters, even ice cream stores.
For decades both Brodie and brother Josh have campaigned to clear their father’s name calling him, “the most positive force” in their lives.
Finally, their efforts paid off. Earlier this month, Missouri Governor Jay Nixon issued a full and complete pardon for Leap. On August 19th Earnest got the call and heard the news he must have longed for. Complete exoneration. Pardoned for the crime he never committed.
I’m still overwhelmed,” Leap, 57, told the Kansas City Star after the call. “I am just really, really thankful.”
The governor wrote that chief among the reasons he granted the pardon was the fact that Brodie Leap had never wavered from his insistence that he had lied all those years ago at the urging of his mother. (Contacted recently Karen Leap Harris continued to maintain the molestation occurred saying, “It happened … My son would not have lied to me back then,” she said. “I don’t know why Brodie is lying now.”
Sadly, neither adult son has a relationship with his mother.
I’ve written in this space before about the senseless way in which these sex registries are maintained. They should focus on tracking career pedophiles and those who produce and trade in the worst kinds of child pornography. Instead, state registries are overflowing with the names of those convicted of drunkenly urinating in public or those involved in so-called Romeo and Juliet sexual contact. Just because the parents of a 16-year-old girl want her just-turned-18-year-old boyfriend punished doesn’t mean the state should participate in ruining a young man’s life.
The trend does seem to be shifting ever so slowly. Last year, the California Supreme Court declared sex-offender living restrictions were unconstitutional. In New York, the Court of Appeals struck down an ordinance that banned sex offenders from living near schools. And the high court in Massachusetts, did the same. A judge there compared living restrictions placed on one group of citizens to some of the country’s darkest history – the construct of reservations for native Americans and internment camps for Japanese Americans.
As the Leap’s marriage was dissolving in the late 80’s President Reagan’s Labor Secretary, Ray Donovan, was found not guilty of corruption charges and he famously asked, “Which office do I go to get my reputation back?
As Earnest Leap knows it’s mighty hard to undo 27 years of public perception. Where does he go now for relief from the nearly three decades of undeserved punishment?
I can think of someone else who has had complete exoneration......it’s mighty hard to undo years of (false) public perception. Where does he go now for relief from decades of undeserved castigation?
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The Problem With Sex Offender Registries
by Diane Dimond on August 29, 2016
He was accused of an unspeakable crime he did not commit. For 27 years Earnest Leap of Oakview, Missouri has lived with the ugly label, “child molester.” With his name on a publicly available sex registry the word quickly spread that he had sexually abused his own son and had “admitted” it in court.
The facts of Leap’s case make it clear it could happen to anyone in the midst of a contentious child custody case.
In the fall of 1989, following an antagonistic divorce, a judge ruled that Earnest and Karen Leap would share custody of their sons, 5-year-old Brodie and toddler Josh. Primary custody was awarded to Earnest and the boys would live most of the time with their father.
Within months of that ruling Brodie – now 32 – remembers his mother “incessantly” cajoling him to say his father had sexually abused him. Brodie, motivated by a terrible guilt, has spent much of his adult life trying to undo the damage.
Hauled into court to face child abuse allegations Earnest took the flawed advice of his public defender and accepted a deal to plead “no contest” to the charge. The deal included no jail time, a guarantee that his record would disappear in three years – and most important to Earnest – it would spare his son from having to testify at a difficult trial. Back then there was no such thing as a sex registry.
Then in 1994, a federal law required every state to establish a public registry listing every person convicted of a sex crime. In Missouri, Earnest Leap was forced to register as a sex offender and remain on the registry for the rest of his life. His world began to fall apart, his movements limited by the rule that an offender may not be in proximity to or live near minors. Imagine going through life having to dodge schools, malls, parks, theaters, even ice cream stores.
For decades both Brodie and brother Josh have campaigned to clear their father’s name calling him, “the most positive force” in their lives.
Finally, their efforts paid off. Earlier this month, Missouri Governor Jay Nixon issued a full and complete pardon for Leap. On August 19th Earnest got the call and heard the news he must have longed for. Complete exoneration. Pardoned for the crime he never committed.
I’m still overwhelmed,” Leap, 57, told the Kansas City Star after the call. “I am just really, really thankful.”
The governor wrote that chief among the reasons he granted the pardon was the fact that Brodie Leap had never wavered from his insistence that he had lied all those years ago at the urging of his mother. (Contacted recently Karen Leap Harris continued to maintain the molestation occurred saying, “It happened … My son would not have lied to me back then,” she said. “I don’t know why Brodie is lying now.”
Sadly, neither adult son has a relationship with his mother.I’ve written in this space before about the senseless way in which these sex registries are maintained. They should focus on tracking career pedophiles and those who produce and trade in the worst kinds of child pornography. Instead, state registries are overflowing with the names of those convicted of drunkenly urinating in public or those involved in so-called Romeo and Juliet sexual contact. Just because the parents of a 16-year-old girl want her just-turned-18-year-old boyfriend punished doesn’t mean the state should participate in ruining a young man’s life.
The trend does seem to be shifting ever so slowly. Last year, the California Supreme Court declared sex-offender living restrictions were unconstitutional. In New York, the Court of Appeals struck down an ordinance that banned sex offenders from living near schools. And the high court in Massachusetts, did the same. A judge there compared living restrictions placed on one group of citizens to some of the country’s darkest history – the construct of reservations for native Americans and internment camps for Japanese Americans.
As the Leap’s marriage was dissolving in the late 80’s President Reagan’s Labor Secretary, Ray Donovan, was found not guilty of corruption charges and he famously asked, “Which office do I go to get my reputation back?
As Earnest Leap knows it’s mighty hard to undo 27 years of public perception. Where does he go now for relief from the nearly three decades of undeserved punishment?
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Not to be mean but what does this have to do with Michael or this case?
Not to be mean but what does this have to do with Michael or this case?
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Aren you talking about the article above your post? That is Diane Diamond the low life TABLOID reporter who all in the media know is clown and have no creditability and tried to ruin MJ with so called reporting on MJ and these claims. you can tell she is the biggeet liar and try to come across as fair when she is really full of it.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Even after Michael died ( years after he was found 'not guilty' in a court of law...a case which Dimond covered minutely) she continued to assert his guilt, and today (of all days) has the barefaced cheek to bemoan the fact that another innocent man is unable to find relief from undeserved punishment and loss of reputation. Michael was thoroughly 'punished' in public opinion and in finally losing his life, and she was behind a large mass of the adverse media and loss of reputation that he faced.
Even after Michael died ( years after he was found 'not guilty' in a court of law...a case which Dimond covered minutely) she continued to assert his guilt, and today (of all days) has the barefaced cheek to bemoan the fact that another innocent man is unable to find relief from undeserved punishment and loss of reputation. Michael was thoroughly 'punished' in public opinion and in finally losing his life, and she was behind a large mass of the adverse media and loss of reputation that he faced.
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Diane Dimond = hypercrit and ratchet bitch!
Diane Dimond = hypercrit and ratchet bitch!
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Bingo! and the rest of his family retirement plan (Joy, Chantal etc).
Bingo! and the rest of his family retirement plan (Joy, Chantal etc).
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I see thank you. I just hate seeing her name esp on Michael's birthday
I see thank you. I just hate seeing her name esp on Michael's birthday
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I know what u mean
I know what u mean
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Wade really thought this was going to be easy but not so it getting harder and harder his lies are about to be expose.
Wade really thought this was going to be easy but not so it getting harder and harder his lies are about to be expose.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Her name does not kill the joy that is/was going on all day. No one of substance care about her.
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Quite bizarre for Diane, of all people, to write that story. You have to wonder if she felt any guilt or remorse while doing so. Surely she can see herself in this guys horrible story.
Quite bizarre for Diane, of all people, to write that story. You have to wonder if she felt any guilt or remorse while doing so. Surely she can see herself in this guys horrible story.
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I was thinking the same thing that she might be feeling that but this is DD she always believe that Michael was guilty. For her to write this article on Michael birthday she is up to no good .
I was thinking the same thing that she might be feeling that but this is DD she always believe that Michael was guilty. For her to write this article on Michael birthday she is up to no good .
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I agree.
I think the only reason she writes such articles is to make a point that she isn't always against a person accused of child molestation. That's all it serves IMO. To give herself some points about supposedly being "balanced". But her main agenda is always about MJ. If she was truly as genuine about being fair to people who are accused then she would have been to MJ. She wouldn't have published Victor Gutierrez's lies without double checking them. She wouldn't have made up lies about MJ and the case. I just mentioned the other day when she was on CNN and claimed the prosecution found love letters by MJ written to Gavin which wasn't true of course. And she has told many, many such lies about MJ through her career. If she had been genuine she wouldn't have been one-sidedly biased for the Chandlers so much so that the Chandlers themselves call her their "closest ally" in their book. And so on and so forth.
I agree.
I think the only reason she writes such articles is to make a point that she isn't always against a person accused of child molestation. That's all it serves IMO. To give herself some points about supposedly being "balanced". But her main agenda is always about MJ. If she was truly as genuine about being fair to people who are accused then she would have been to MJ. She wouldn't have published Victor Gutierrez's lies without double checking them. She wouldn't have made up lies about MJ and the case. I just mentioned the other day when she was on CNN and claimed the prosecution found love letters by MJ written to Gavin which wasn't true of course. And she has told many, many such lies about MJ through her career. If she had been genuine she wouldn't have been one-sidedly biased for the Chandlers so much so that the Chandlers themselves call her their "closest ally" in their book. And so on and so forth.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
True dat. She's also the bride of the devil himself.
True dat. She's also the bride of the devil himself.
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shes that deluded she wouldnt see it at all
shes that deluded she wouldnt see it at all
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
When Diane is going off and trying to play (fake) fair with MJ I just want someone ANYONE to call her out on national TV.. Simply ask her about the hard copy scandal!
I mean just once someone ask her on TV...
When Diane is going off and trying to play (fake) fair with MJ I just want someone ANYONE to call her out on national TV.. Simply ask her about the hard copy scandal!
I mean just once someone ask her on TV...
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Nuff said
Nuff said
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She is a hot mess. I laughed when she was FIRED from court Tv and the female lawyer who was representing Ms. Kathrine bust DD out and said "you got fired" and DD still was trying to lie and say she ws not fired and everyone knew she was fired.
She is a hot mess. I laughed when she was FIRED from court Tv and the female lawyer who was representing Ms. Kathrine bust DD out and said "you got fired" and DD still was trying to lie and say she ws not fired and everyone knew she was fired.
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Thats Demon D lying and then backtracking when Corey directly replied to her. If this documentary of MJ trials happens, I hope they exposed her in it and finish her for good.
Nuff said
Thats Demon D lying and then backtracking when Corey directly replied to her. If this documentary of MJ trials happens, I hope they exposed her in it and finish her for good.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Found this on YouTube. Made me think of the moron on the Daily Show who interviewed Travis
and asked him how MJ's fans deal with those stories of him having pictures of nude kids and animal abuse.
They deal with it by using their brain, asshole!
Found this on YouTube. Made me think of the moron on the Daily Show who interviewed Travis
and asked him how MJ's fans deal with those stories of him having pictures of nude kids and animal abuse.
They deal with it by using their brain, asshole!