[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I expect to see it nominated at next year's Oscars.

:lol: :lol:
He's not saying the memories were suppressed though, his actual claim is even more bizarre. He says that he remembered all along that Michael molested him from the age of 7 until puberty (including anal rape), that Michael threatened him not to tell anyone, that Michael brainwashed him to the point where he could testify as an adult in Michael's defense and not even flinch when confronted with these same accusations of sexual abuse, all because he was "unable and unwilling to understand" that there was anything wrong with what Michael did to him (although he did suffer shame and guilt over it at the same time). Even when he had a mental breakdown in his 30s he didn't link this to the sexual abuse, not even after therapy; only after a second mental breakdown and another therapist does he come to the realization that his mental issues have something to do with being systematically raped by the most famous man in the world :smilerolleyes:

seriously where has he been hiding in outer space or something?! :doh:

Sex , molestation etc is everywhere in newspapers, magazines , TV
So how could he not know what it is

I swear he is delusional
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Mark David Chapman publicly admits he shot and killed John Lennon so he could become famous. It's why you look at both Robson and Safechuck and wonder if they enjoy the notoriety, same as Mark David Chapman, who murdered John Lennon in cold blood. Both Robson and Safechuck are doing what they can to kill Michael Jackson's reputation!




Soon after this video was filmed, John Lennon was dead and Sean Lennon become a fatherless boy!


Michael, though, always looking out for fatherless children, cast Sean Lennon in "Moonwalker." Michael even performed "Come Together" made famous by John Lennon, as a Beatle.






Michael believed in the future of children, not using them as sex slaves. I don't think Yoko Ono would have left such a tender sweet affirmation of Michael when he passed, if Michael was something detestable.


With his enormous talent, Michael kept giving us power, inspiration and joy.
Yet he knew that the world was not kind to him for many reasons,
some of it going right back to racism.

That must have been so hard for him.
His various attempts to be loved by the world equaled the pain he received from it.

Michael, now you are free from all that.
Rest well in Peace.
We will always remember you and love you for what you were to us.

With love,
Yoko Ono Lennon
June, 2009.

http://imaginepeace.com/archives/7344
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I really believe that is what Wade and Safechuck plan was along just to ruin Michael name none if this never happen just a lie their told hoping that ppls would believe them.


What beautiful words from Yoko Ono Lennon
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

by the way

Taj Jackson ?@tajjackson3 Sept 8th

Tomorrow, the @IpsoNews Committee discusses our complaint against @DailyMirror

Read: http://tl.gd/n_1sndqah

and another news-mentioning

http://www.music-news.com/ShowNews.asp?nItemID=92079

Justin Bieber:...he understands why Michael Jackson preferred the company of children over adults. 'I think there is a lot of the misconception about Michael Jackson. He wanted to be around kids because they were just innocent. They never wanted anything from him. I get that. I don't know if I believe all the stuff that went on about Michael but that is just my opinion,' he said.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

and another news-mentioning

http://www.music-news.com/ShowNews.asp?nItemID=92079

Justin Bieber:...he understands why Michael Jackson preferred the company of children over adults. 'I think there is a lot of the misconception about Michael Jackson. He wanted to be around kids because they were just innocent. They never wanted anything from him. I get that. I don't know if I believe all the stuff that went on about Michael but that is just my opinion,' he said.
I really like the fact that Justin didn't just mention this off the cuff-to get Michael Jackson's name out there to get some clicks-but in reference to his own record of more Make A Wish wishes granted-and how much he likes to hang out with those kids because they don't want anything from him and he can trust them and enjoy them.
 
I'm seeing this on FB this evening:
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Taj Jackson · @tajjackson3
Tomorrow (Sept 9th) the @IpsoNews Complaints Committee will be discussing (in person) our complaint against the @DailyMirror regarding my Uncle Michael. Please tweet @IpsoNews and let them know how much the truth means to all of us, and that the lies about Michael Jackson have to stop now. We want justice! The Mirror should be held accountable for printing, publishing, and spreading lies about my uncle. ‪#‎TruthforMJ‬
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

He's not saying the memories were suppressed though, his actual claim is even more bizarre. He says that he remembered all along that Michael molested him from the age of 7 until puberty (including anal rape), that Michael threatened him not to tell anyone, that Michael brainwashed him to the point where he could testify as an adult in Michael's defense and not even flinch when confronted with these same accusations of sexual abuse, all because he was "unable and unwilling to understand" that there was anything wrong with what Michael did to him (although he did suffer shame and guilt over it at the same time). Even when he had a mental breakdown in his 30s he didn't link this to the sexual abuse, not even after therapy; only after a second mental breakdown and another therapist does he come to the realization that his mental issues have something to do with being systematically raped by the most famous man in the world :smilerolleyes:

Where did this suppressed memory thing come from then? drawn up by the media? And if that is the case, it's even more bull crap of a story..



PS..

So he claimes this startd at age7???? 2 years before Michael helped his family move to the United States.. hmmm, so pretty much the moment that MJ met him, or maybe even before they met it started.. almost as dumb of a story as the Arvizo family brought up with changing the dates(after proven MJ was in florida) for there case..
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

PS..

So he claimes this startd at age7???? 2 years before Michael helped his family move to the United States.. hmmm, so pretty much the moment that MJ met him, or maybe even before they met it started.. almost as dumb of a story as the Arvizo family brought up with changing the dates(after proven MJ was in florida) for there case..
hahaha-it started before they met. He might as well say that, because the story that he's claiming is just as far-fetched.

I wish this would be OVER!!!!!!!
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Good look with the complaint. that supposedly new press watchdog is no different to the old one it replaced. funded by the newspapers! been complaints about them already in the uk media by the hacking victims
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Is this the same organization that complaints against Bashir were filed?

IPSO have only existed since late 2014 so there must have been another similar channel to go through before they existed. The Press Complaints Commission was their predecessor.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Wade is such an unappreciative coward... If it wasn't for Michael he would not have had the career he did.. Wouldn't even have probably ever moved to the U.S., all that work he did on dance was due to MICHAEL opening the doors for him... Then like a coward after he passes, does this.. What a fake, it makes me dread what people are capable of.. Human Nature is a mother f***er.. So beautiful with so much ugly...

Thanks for showing us the ugly!
 
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^^Thats how I feel about show BUSINESS. It's ugly, dirty, sleazy, cutthroat as hell, but at the same time responsible for the most fantastical mystical escapism or the most moral social messages.

Ugly side. Beautiful side.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Where did this suppressed memory thing come from then? drawn up by the media? And if that is the case, it's even more bull crap of a story..



PS..

So he claimes this startd at age7???? 2 years before Michael helped his family move to the United States.. hmmm, so pretty much the moment that MJ met him, or maybe even before they met it started.. almost as dumb of a story as the Arvizo family brought up with changing the dates(after proven MJ was in florida) for there case..

hahaha-it started before they met. He might as well say that, because the story that he's claiming is just as far-fetched.

I wish this would be OVER!!!!!!!





So michael "telepathically" molestes him .......bwhahahaha NICE TRY WADE ....NICE TRY!! :toofunny:
 
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Published on Sep 12, 2015
Ethel Weiss is the owner of Irving's, a candy and toy store in Brookline, Massachusetts. She's been opening up her shop just about every day since 1939, motivated by the children who frequent her store. CBS News correspondent Steve Hartman reports.





Her reason for still going strong at 101 year's, the children!

Michael had it right. Volunteering to work and interact with children is the best medicine. It is a fountain of youth. So why Robson and Safechuck have to pull this crap on Michael, after he dies, spells sketchy. (dishonest or disreputable
"once the story does come out, the fact that you tried to hide it will seem sketchy")
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

by the way

Taj Jackson ?@tajjackson3 Sept 8th

Tomorrow, the @IpsoNews Committee discusses our complaint against @DailyMirror

Read: http://tl.gd/n_1sndqah

and another news-mentioning

http://www.music-news.com/ShowNews.asp?nItemID=92079

Justin Bieber:...he understands why Michael Jackson preferred the company of children over adults. 'I think there is a lot of the misconception about Michael Jackson. He wanted to be around kids because they were just innocent. They never wanted anything from him. I get that. I don't know if I believe all the stuff that went on about Michael but that is just my opinion,' he said.
That paper is sick. In 1992 they distorted MJ face and lied on him. They are always doing mess.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

All I will say is that MJ has been investigated worst than a serial killer and they still found nothing even had a trial that PROVEN to be lies with people caught in lies on the Stand, changing stories, and not making any sense, lying for money, whereas MJ story never changed and he stayed to fight the charges. REAL Pedophile (or criminals) do not do that. When you find this much nonsense even with the Chandlers, that even more proves this was a sham against Michael. Go look into a REAL child molestation case, trials, and see what you see (and those men are caught and were no way investigated like MJ and they could hide Yet the truth about those real pedo came out with no problem and the facts were there including REAL emotional scars. Not someone talking great and defending a stranger or outsider of family all the time and then in a blank of an eye accusing that person.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Michael had it right. Volunteering to work and interact with children is the best medicine. It is a fountain of youth. So why Robson and Safechuck have to pull this crap on Michael, after he dies, spells sketchy. (dishonest or disreputable
"once the story does come out, the fact that you tried to hide it will seem sketchy")

I like to agree that interact with kids is a great thing, but I can never understand why people are having such a big deal of problem over it? Like is it because they fear something horrible would happen like as if they hear people spreading rumours over like they believe in such bullcrap is that they listen to them and not listen to their kids if they say what happened didn't really happen at all. Kids know the real truth, unlike those Arvizo kids which they lie (like some kids can), they knew the truth that Michael never done harm among them and bless their hearts for defending him all these years because he was so friendly and kind to them.

That paper is sick. In 1992 they distorted MJ face and lied on him. They are always doing mess.

That's one of those reason why I hate those fricking papers full of lies spewing such crap about Michael. They should be burned like News Of The World got burned (and I don't mean literally)
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The latest from court:
09/11/2015 Notice of Reassignment and Order

Ivy, do you have any info what is going on and what is reassigned and ordered?

This is is not going to be over this year:-(
02/16/2016 at 08:30 am in department 51 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Status Conference(MATTER SET IN DEPARTMENT MSANTA MONICA COURT;)
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Beckloff is assigned to Santa Monica courthouse. the last thing we saw was the cases were going to follow Beckloff to Santa Monica and there was no decision on demurrers yet (as of August 14). Beckloff also set a status hearing for February 2016 and the documents mentioned Beckloff being at court of appeals.

Right now I'm thinking there's some sort of hold or delay on these cases due to a matter related to Beckloff. He might be appealing his transfer. But it's all an assumption on my part. Nothing to do but wait until we get more information.
 
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I like to agree that interact with kids is a great thing, but I can never understand why people are having such a big deal of problem over it? Like is it because they fear something horrible would happen like as if they hear people spreading rumours over like they believe in such bullcrap is that they listen to them and not listen to their kids if they say what happened didn't really happen at all. Kids know the real truth, unlike those Arvizo kids which they lie (like some kids can), they knew the truth that Michael never done harm among them and bless their hearts for defending him all these years because he was so friendly and kind to them.


Weeks before Michael died, Conrad Murray had recorded Michael talking about how he had no childhood and that he was still looking out for children. "I didn't have a childhood. I had no childhood. "Heal The World," "We Are The World," "Will You Be There," "The Lost Children," These are the songs I have written because I hurt, you know? I hurt." As to children Michael went on to say, "Their sick because their depressed. Their mind is depressing them. I want to give them that. I care about them, them angels. God wants me to do it. God wants me to do it. I am going to do it, Conrad."

Even though we hear a groggy Michael Jackson speaking those words, if we go back to 1991, to LaToya Jackson's book, about growing up in the Jackson family, she reveals how Michael acquired a brain. Michael was fascinated with how the brain worked. Which makes it more understandable of why Michael chose to use propofol as a sleep agent. Michael always believed in being an advocate of children's rights. This is why both Safechuck and Robson make such disturbing allegation's against Michael Jackson. Michael is being recorded about his love for children and still wanting to look out for them. How can Michael's motives be questioned, when it is the action's of both Safechuck and Robson that need to be questioned. Which goes right back to 1993, starting with the Chandler's and how all they wanted was money!


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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Weeks before Michael died, Conrad Murray had recorded Michael talking about how he had no childhood and that he was still looking out for children. "I didn't have a childhood. I had no childhood. "Heal The World," "We Are The World," "Will You Be There," "The Lost Children," These are the songs I have written because I hurt, you know? I hurt." As to children Michael went on to say, "Their sick because their depressed. Their mind is depressing them. I want to give them that. I care about them, them angels. God wants me to do it. God wants me to do it. I am going to do it, Conrad."

Even though we hear a groggy Michael Jackson speaking those words, if we go back to 1991, to LaToya Jackson's book, about growing up in the Jackson family, she reveals how Michael acquired a brain. Michael was fascinated with how the brain worked. Which makes it more understandable of why Michael chose to use propofol as a sleep agent. Michael always believed in being an advocate of children's rights. This is why both Safechuck and Robson make such disturbing allegation's against Michael Jackson. Michael is being recorded about his love for children and still wanting to look out for them. How can Michael's motives be questioned, when it is the action's of both Safechuck and Robson that need to be questioned. Which goes right back to 1993, starting with the Chandler's and how all they wanted was money!


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Knew that much, except the part on LaToya's 91' book, I did hear that Michael was also fascinated with how surgery operations work which is to why he's well educated his own way. STABchuck and Robson needed to have their brains checked now that you've mentioned it.
 
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Went on their website and there is only the one page with links to their Facebook, Twitter etc..Nothing else. They seem to be focusing more on sports vids. Their posts about WR sure aren't gaining any attention thats for sure.
So WR isn't exactly giving Spielberg a run for his money then eh?
 
This is a bit Off Topic,
but I came across her ugly picture on ebay today....
Not sure if it's been posted before.



She (or someone else) is trying to sell her badge for 1500,-€ :puke:
Item description:

"UP FOR SALE IS A GENUINE MICHAEL JACKSON NEVERLAND VALLEY RANCH EMPLOYEE IDENTIFICATION BADGE. THIS WAS RECEIVED FROM MICHAEL'S PERSONAL BEDROOM MAID WHO WORKED AT NVR IN THE EARLY 90'S. THESE WERE ISSUED OUT IN LATE 1993 TO THE NVR EMPLOYEES RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST ALLEGATIONS TOOK PLACE. THIS BADGE WAS CREATED BY THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL SERVICES AKA "OSS" THEY WERE TO BE CARRIED BY EVERY EMPLOYEE OF NVR AT ALL TIMES. THE BADGE IS LAMINATED WITH A PHOTO I.D. WITH THE CLASSIC NVR SYMBOL OF THE LITTLE BOY IN PAJAMAS SITTING ON THE CRESCENT MOON. PLEASE NOTE THIS IS THE ORIGINAL WORK BADGE WITH NO REPLICAS. IT'S VERY RARE AND ONE OF A KIND. IT'S ALSO IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. THIS WOULD MAKE A WONDERFUL GIFT FOR ANY M.J. NEVERLAND COLLECTOR WHO WOULD LIKE TO OWN A PIECE OF NVR HISTORY FOREVER!"

First a "subtle" hint at the allegations ... and then telling the potential buyer, that it is a wonderful gift for any MJ Neverland collector.... What are these people thinking ....
Seems all these vultures are on ebay at the moment desperately trying to sell MJ stuff.
Hope, no one buys it!
 
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Anytime;4108210 said:
This is a bit Off Topic,
but I came across her ugly picture on ebay today....
Not sure if it's been posted before.



She (or someone else) is trying to sell her badge for 1500,-€ :puke:
Item description:

"UP FOR SALE IS A GENUINE MICHAEL JACKSON NEVERLAND VALLEY RANCH EMPLOYEE IDENTIFICATION BADGE. THIS WAS RECEIVED FROM MICHAEL'S PERSONAL BEDROOM MAID WHO WORKED AT NVR IN THE EARLY 90'S. THESE WERE ISSUED OUT IN LATE 1993 TO THE NVR EMPLOYEES RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST ALLEGATIONS TOOK PLACE. THIS BADGE WAS CREATED BY THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL SERVICES AKA "OSS" THEY WERE TO BE CARRIED BY EVERY EMPLOYEE OF NVR AT ALL TIMES. THE BADGE IS LAMINATED WITH A PHOTO I.D. WITH THE CLASSIC NVR SYMBOL OF THE LITTLE BOY IN PAJAMAS SITTING ON THE CRESCENT MOON. PLEASE NOTE THIS IS THE ORIGINAL WORK BADGE WITH NO REPLICAS. IT'S VERY RARE AND ONE OF A KIND. IT'S ALSO IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. THIS WOULD MAKE A WONDERFUL GIFT FOR ANY M.J. NEVERLAND COLLECTOR WHO WOULD LIKE TO OWN A PIECE OF NVR HISTORY FOREVER!"

First a "subtle" hint at the allegations ... and then telling the potential buyer, that it is a wonderful gift for any MJ Neverland collector.... What are these people thinking ....
Seems all these vultures are on ebay at the moment desperately trying to sell MJ stuff.
Hope, no one buys it!

Sickening! I hope that it doesn't sell.

ETA: She has 10 other items for sale, all MJ items.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The nerve these people have...
 
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For a group that "ruled like an iron fist", the logo on the badge doesn't look very intimidating.
What happened did her tabloid sources dry up? Who is gonna pay 1500 to look at her mug? Ugh...
They seriously are demented and sick in the head the whole damn lot of them.
 
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