[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I am really speechless. :blink:

 

[gerryevans]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Okay now that I had my morning coffee let me try to understand this. His sister is selling a pic of Michael on eBay. First of all you don't have damn common sense to take the pic off the got damn wall, so you have a pic of the man you said raped your brother hanging up in your home. It does not matter if it was there for a half a second. Second of all it has wade 's name on it so it belongs to wade, so the "rape victim" kept a pic of his abuser for years. And is selling it because he wants money. Not destroying it because he is disgusted by the individual but selling it because he wants money. ****ing bitches. Sorry for blue language.

Hard not to use blue language with all this stuff. I was around a lot of 7 and 8 year olds recently. These are really little kids. For them to be violated as WR and JS claim at that age, would have to be very painful for them. It would indeed be traumatic. As adults, no way would they think that was not wrong or was instead love. I just can't get over the audacity of these guys or their kin to spread their filth and then want money for mementos of the supposed rapist. They are all really sick $#@%*.

 

[MJresearcher]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

$1100 - that's how :smilerolleyes:

Could end up being more, there's an option there to make an offer but I think it's pretty cheeky to put $1,100 on it as the least expensive price you can pay for it. I don't know what makes them think any fan would buy this, at least not any fan who has any idea who this belongs to and what they're now saying. It's in very poor taste in my opinion.

 

[barbee0715]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Could end up being more, there's an option there to make an offer but I think it's pretty cheeky to put $1,100 on it as the least expensive price you can pay for it. I don't know what makes them think any fan would buy this, at least not any fan who has any idea who this belongs to and what they're now saying. It's in very poor taste in my opinion.

I wonder why they didn't try to just sell it at the Julien's Rock n Roll auction-they have it every June-or did they not need the money then? Just very odd. Or is it more under the radar this way?

 

[ivy]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I wonder why they didn't try to just sell it at the Julien's Rock n Roll auction-they have it every June-or did they not need the money then? Just very odd. Or is it more under the radar this way?

This is more under the radar. They clearly didn't want to attach their names to it. Julien's high profile and attracts a lot of fans - to either buy items or to check items being sold. It would have been discovered easily. eBay auction didn't list the inscribed text, the only way to see it was to look to the 5th picture. and if she set a more reasonable price and if it got sold quickly no one would have realized it.

I believe she listed the item on August 20 and it took fans 9 days to find it.

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

https://twitter.com/PaulaAbdul/status/637671870649667584

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

can't click on links, what is it?

 

[InvincibleMJ]

can't click on links, what is it?

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[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

what a double-faced bitch.

 

[#MJforever57]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Even collectors who are not exactly fans should find the whole thing too weird to buy. It's inappropriate no matter how you look at it.

I agree with you on this

 

[gerryevans]

^^^^The problem is the Robsons don't know what's appropriate or not because it's all a lie.

No matter how much research they’ve done to play the victim, if what Wade is claiming was true, he and his family’s own feelings would guide their behavior and I doubt it would include selling the rapists’ photo to someone who would have to hold the rapist in some regard to actually buy it. Who sells to the highest bidder mementos of those who’ve perform a heinous violent act against their love one.

With their every action, the Robsons show they are not only all about making cash off of MJ, but lack basic sensitivity for true victims.

I hope members of that support group realize one day that they are just being used.

 

[8701girl]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Yep they are being used that for sure

 

[Bubs]

^^^^The problem is the Robsons don't know what's appropriate or not because it's all a lie.

No matter how much research they&#8217;ve done to play the victim, if what Wade is claiming was true, he and his family&#8217;s own feelings would guide their behavior and I doubt it would include selling the rapists&#8217; photo to someone who would have to hold the rapist in some regard to actually buy it. Who sells to the highest bidder mementos of those who&#8217;ve perform a heinous violent act against their love one.

With their every action, the Robsons show they are not only all about making cash off of MJ, but lack basic sensitivity for true victims.

I hope members of that support group realize one day that they are just being used.

You hit the nail in the head with the bolded part.

 

[#MJforever57]

I second that exactly

if what Wade is claiming was true, he and his family&#8217;s own feelings would guide their behavior.

 

[nikirox]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Guys, I saw last week Tina Landon was going to teach at a very known school in LA, I thought she was supporting Wade??... take a look at what the school has posted on instagram https://instagram.com/p/7Gmk5kJzll/
They posted 2 little videos, but I find this one pretty bizarre, they are CELEBRATING Michael's birthday...
$$$$

 

[myosotis]

Guys, I saw last week Tina Landon was going to teach at a very known school in LA, I thought she was supporting Wade??... take a look at what the school has posted on instagram https://instagram.com/p/7Gmk5kJzll/
They posted 2 little videos, but I find this one pretty bizarre, they are CELEBRATING Michael's birthday...
$$$$

Sounds like something straight out of Orwell:'Doublethink'

Doublethink is the act of ordinary people simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts. Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Somewhat related but almost the opposite is cognitive dissonance, where contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance — thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^ Well, a lot of them seem to have this doublethink. This is the guy who was on those photos with Wade a couple of weeks ago. And then he posted this: https://instagram.com/p/6_ZKCdCTOg/?taken-by=duecefrequency

Maybe they not all know about Robson's lawsuit, these may be just superficial relationships, who knows.

 

[8701girl]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'm sure they know bout Wade's allegations its been on the news and he ain't hiding it! He & sis are selling mj pic on eBay for crying out loud!

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'm sure they know bout Wade's allegations its been on the news and he ain't hiding it! He & sis are selling mj pic on eBay for crying out loud!

Fortunately Wade's lawsuit didn't make any big headlines in the media and most of it it ended up in tabloids at best. I can see how some people may be unaware of it especially if they're not part of Wade's circle outside of work. I think we can give some of them the benefit of the doubt but not all of them. It looks like Vincent Paterson is aware of the lawsuit and still decided to stay friends with Wade.

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

well, MJ's own lawyer Johnny Cochran was best buddies with Larry Feldman , went out of his way to praise him whenever he had the chance , hired him as his lawyer for many things and even after the settlement he sought his advice for OJ case. All of them in MJ's life were backstabbers.

 

[#MJforever57]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Fortunately Wade's lawsuit didn't make any big headlines in the media and most of it it ended up in tabloids at best. I can see how some people may be unaware of it especially if they're not part of Wade's circle outside of work. I think we can give some of them the benefit of the doubt but not all of them. It looks like Vincent Paterson is aware of the lawsuit and still decided to stay friends with Wade.

Where it should be in the bold part. I do not see how Vincent can still be friends with Wade seeing how Wade is trying to ruin Michael name imo he would not be a friend of my.

 

[myosotis]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I noticed that Wade has recently completed a new film! (erm, a local furniture store commercial in Maui.....)

I couldn't help but contrast this commercial with his listing as a 'Guest Teacher' at the Broadway Dance Center, New York (which I'm surprised is still on the website). The bio for the latter mentions Michael, Britney, Carly Simon, Emmy performances etc. The former mentions .... um.... 'contemporary, transitional and tropical furniture'. Bit of a change in 8 years.

https://vimeo.com/134697062

http://www.broadwaydancecenter.com/faculty/bios/robson_wade.shtml

 

[la_cienega]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I expect to see it nominated at next year's Oscars.

 

[PoP]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I expect to see it nominated at next year's Oscars.

Oh yeah, he may win an Oscar. NOT!!! (being sarcastic about his freaking film)

 

[Annita]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Fortunately Wade's lawsuit didn't make any big headlines in the media and most of it it ended up in tabloids at best. I can see how some people may be unaware of it especially if they're not part of Wade's circle outside of work. I think we can give some of them the benefit of the doubt but not all of them. It looks like Vincent Paterson is aware of the lawsuit and still decided to stay friends with Wade.

It does not only seem Paterson is aware, he sure is aware, fans asked him about it. And I am 100% sure that also, people like Tina London and Paula Abdul know about it, if not from the press (and don`t forget the first headlines about Robson were big and covered in talk shows) then from fans.

 

[KOPV]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

the whole thing is just stupid... That's why the media can't even pick up on it seriously!

Even lets say he 'suppresed' the memory as he claimed... When you suppress a memory you still carry emotional connection to that event... From personal experience from suppressing a memory of a tragic event and later coming back... There are always triggers of negative feelings (unexplainable) lets say you resent someone and u don't know why... Or every time someone would do something that connects to that suppressed memory (stress and sadness is raised)

The way he paraded around as a HUGE MJ fan, and even did dedicated shows and performances to him shows NO emotional 'baggage' connected to Michael..

it's honestly a spit in the face to anyone that actually had a moment they suppressed memory with and had to deal with it..

 

[LindavG]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

the whole thing is just stupid... That's why the media can't even pick up on it seriously!

Even lets say he 'suppresed' the memory as he claimed... When you suppress a memory you still carry emotional connection to that event... From personal experience from suppressing a memory of a tragic event and later coming back... There are always triggers of negative feelings (unexplainable) lets say you resent someone and u don't know why... Or every time someone would do something that connects to that suppressed memory (stress and sadness is raised)

The way he paraded around as a HUGE MJ fan, and even did dedicated shows and performances to him shows NO emotional 'baggage' connected to Michael..

it's honestly a spit in the face to anyone that actually had a moment they suppressed memory with and had to deal with it..

He's not saying the memories were suppressed though, his actual claim is even more bizarre. He says that he remembered all along that Michael molested him from the age of 7 until puberty (including anal rape), that Michael threatened him not to tell anyone, that Michael brainwashed him to the point where he could testify as an adult in Michael's defense and not even flinch when confronted with these same accusations of sexual abuse, all because he was "unable and unwilling to understand" that there was anything wrong with what Michael did to him (although he did suffer shame and guilt over it at the same time). Even when he had a mental breakdown in his 30s he didn't link this to the sexual abuse, not even after therapy; only after a second mental breakdown and another therapist does he come to the realization that his mental issues have something to do with being systematically raped by the most famous man in the world :smilerolleyes:

 

[nikirox]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It does not only seem Paterson is aware, he sure is aware, fans asked him about it. And I am 100% sure that also, people like Tina London and Paula Abdul know about it, if not from the press (and don`t forget the first headlines about Robson were big and covered in talk shows) then from fans.

^ Well, a lot of them seem to have this doublethink. This is the guy who was on those photos with Wade a couple of weeks ago. And then he posted this: https://instagram.com/p/6_ZKCdCTOg/?taken-by=duecefrequency

Maybe they not all know about Robson's lawsuit, these may be just superficial relationships, who knows.

I'm sure they know bout Wade's allegations its been on the news and he ain't hiding it! He & sis are selling mj pic on eBay for crying out loud!

They are aware, but they don't have any problem using Michael's name when they find it convenient.

https://imageshack.com/i/p1f8zxedp

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[InvincibleMJ]

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They are aware, but they don't have any problem using Michael's name when they find it convenient.

https://imageshack.com/i/p1f8zxedp

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What's in this screenshot? The two links show the same one niki

 

[nikirox]

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What's in this screenshot? The two links show the same one niki

Oops sorry and thank you


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