[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Here's another shot of Safechuck's mother - at least I think the woman on the right is her. The shape of her face kind of looks like the woman on the Hawaii pics, what do you think?

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I think your right. The chin certainly looks the same.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Honestly I'd love to see proof of that. Rather than, he just doesn't give a crap and is simply a self-centred narcissistic (fill in word of choice) who would go after anyone just because he could and couldn't care less about who he hurts along the way. Personally I don't believe in Karma, but if it exists it needs to give the two of them and their lawyers a big double whammy.

Of course he's unhappy. He expected to be a millionaire already. He expected to be Stephen Spielberg.

Now he's doing music videos for people nobody's heard of, when he's been claiming till just a few months back that he would never be doing directing/dance again.

His cousin killed himself just recently, his father killed himself. He's had numerous breakdowns and doesn't seem stable enough to keep a job. He's deeply unhappy and recognizes that he's not capable of keeping this career up long term, so now that he's been forced back into it, something he doesn't want to do, something he's tried to quit numerous times since 2004, he's guaranteed completely miserable.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Here's another shot of Safechuck's mother - at least I think the woman on the right is her. The shape of her face kind of looks like the woman on the Hawaii pics, what do you think?

I agree, too. I think she is also getting into the van with MJ and James between 20 and 30 secs in this video (1988 Japan)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUNK9hv-wGQ

Jimmy (I think??) is in this 1988 tokyo footage just quickly at the beginning, then a minute or so from about 50 secs onwards...doing his 'star of stage and screen thing, not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2efDEZUV02g
 
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"he's guaranteed completely miserable"

Good.
 
I'm looking at the FB of the company Safechuck works for. I think that's him (photo is from August 2009):

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/AvatarLabs...2619.57433121274/120504776274/?type=1&theater

BTW the company posted this in September 2009:

AvatarLabs
September 16, 2009 ·
The very first brand new MySpace Music Takeover features Sony's Michael Jackson film THIS IS IT! http://music.myspace.com/

https://www.facebook.com/AvatarLabs/posts/137522969886

Look at this video of the company's hobby band. Is that him playing guitar at 0:34? Also at 2:21 left down corner.

https://www.facebook.com/AvatarLabs/videos/455325020851/

The band is called "Not James Cameron's Avatar". Here you can see a snippet of them at 2:57. I guess this is not how James imagined his "music career" LOL.

[video=youtube;xbY8wpqpojo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbY8wpqpojo[/video]

March 2010:

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https://www.facebook.com/AvatarLabs...3868799&hash=5728856155358552110&pagefilter=3

December 2011

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September 2012

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https://www.facebook.com/AvatarLabs...57433121274/10151066126571275/?type=1&theater

July 2013 - so after his supposed realization of alleged abuse in May 2013 and amidst supposed fears of "oh no, now I am being exposed" due to seeing Wade etc. This could be his wife. I think so because the woman looks pregnant and their second child was born in August 2013.

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I don't see him in this video, but this is the company he works at:

[video=youtube;B241i1YsbL4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B241i1YsbL4[/video]
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'll run you over with that I llama if you are not careful
You Iill ill sick in the head man you
 
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You are no more than a criminal wade just stop it
And you can stop it .just forget that dirty money and stop lying and then you will find some peace in your heart and you can then be able to sleep at night why you are lying about your friend like that every day you wake up it must kill you knowing you betrayed m like this he is gone but you were once lucky to have his friendship while he was on this earth
How can that money EVER make you happy tho
Michael might see your betrayal from where he is You doughnut.
(cause who knows where we go when we go)
Come on stop this madness :'( it's too awkward and painful to see be true to yourself (small hug but only small if you are listening) and if you are not listening consider a kick in the balls
 
Here is a full 11 minutes long footage of that performance by the company band. The tall guy with the guitar on the right end is him IMO. BTW, watch at your own risk and get your earplugs ready. LOL.

https://www.facebook.com/joshgolsen/videos/452706636867/

ETA: From AvatarLabs Instagram:

September 18 2014 (in the middle back)

https://instagram.com/p/tE1EECJfA2/?taken-by=avatarlabs

It looks like him to me as well, although I think the pic is older because he has a different hairstyle here and this was uploaded only a day after the previous pic where he has longer hair: https://instagram.com/p/tHb3E2pfB4/
Maybe the pic was made a year before when he had his daughter.

September 19, 2014 (in the back row): https://instagram.com/p/tJF4pZJfL0/?taken-by=avatarlabs

ETA: Yes, that's him and it's a photo from August 2013: https://instagram.com/p/dsHqLVxamX/

Article from 2007:

Avatarlabs Names James Safechuck Flash Developer



By Press Release / Sep 20, 2007
AvatarLabs, a full-service motion graphics and online design studio for the entertainment industry, has appointed James Safechuck, Flash Developer, it was announced today by the company’s Creative Director/Producer/Designer Rex Cook.
In his role as Flash Developer for AvatarLabs, Safechuck will be creating innovative and engaging online media. His responsibilities include finding technical solutions to bring designs to life. Using Adobe's Flash platform, in conjunction with a variety of development tools, Safechuck has created work for industry giants such as Disney, Warner Brothers, Fox, and Universal.

James began his career in film, but after attending courses at Art Center College of Design, pursued a career in new media development. He has been working professionally in the field since 2003. Safechuck's role at AvatarLabs initially focused on Motion Graphics — he now uses that experience to enhance his work as a Flash Developer. Regarding working for AvatarLabs, James says, "The environment has provided me a priceless opportunity to experience all aspects of the creative field."


http://www.studiodaily.com/2007/09/avatarlabs-names-james-safechuck-flash-developer/

This one is from 2004: http://photoshop.digitalmedianet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=28578

The AvatarLabs creative team for Everwood:
Rex Cook, Creative Director
Aki Narita, Designer/Animator
Laura Primack, Designer
Ogy Durham, Designer
Valerie Cook, Designer
James Safechuck, Jr Designer

So he's been working at this one place since he started to work in web design. The other name I highlighted. I think that's his wife: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/laura-primack/2/54a/454

I do remember his wife's name was some Laura.

She lives in Simi Valley: http://www.usa-people-search.com/names/p/Laura-Primack

James' mother is called Joann (68-years-old), his father, James Sr is 72.
Correction: Joann is maybe an aunt, rather than his mother.
 
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^ And his claims against MJ have provided yet another 'priceless opportunity' for him to be creative.....

The more I think about his statement in his deposition (Para 40) about 'Deced. would run 'drills' and make plaintiff practice putting on his clothes very fast and and running away quietly', the more ludicrous it seems.

Here is someone who is (according to this story) desperate not to be caught with the plaintiff in an unclothed state....so he gets the plaintiff to carry out 'drills' that necessitate the plaintiff getting undressed!
Not only that, but it seems from the latest deposition that a wide range of types of bodily contact are asserted by the plaintiff. As far as I am aware, few of these would require that the plaintiff actually be 'undressed', to the extent that he would have to put his clothes back on. Furthermore, since it was known to JS family and to some degree public knowledge that the plaintiff spent time with the decedent (certainly Neverland staff and hotel staff must have known), why would it be necessary to practice 'running away quietly'? He would still have been visible to anyone in the area. From most TV and film scenarios of 'illicit' relationships that I have seen, the couple who engage in any activity that may be interrupted by a third party, generally try to appear (once clothing has been properly arranged) to be engaged in some other normal activity eg watching TV, or just having a conversation. If he was gong to run away, exactly where would he run to? It's not as if he was going to jump in a car and speed from the scene. . . . This statement of JS's perhaps more than all the rest, seems to show the stupidity of his allegations.
 
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I've been reading up on this thread and once again it really stands out to me (like all of you have been saying) how bitter JS seems to be about his life basically not becoming what he had envisioned it to be. It's always been strange to me that both him and WR seem to go on and on about those subjects in a claim about alleged sexual abuse - which has nothing to do with it - imo revealing their true motivation behind those claims.
Both of them seem to have had big dreams for themselves, and (with Michael's well intended encouragement) they might have grown into the idea of becoming the next big thing from a very young age - and Michael would be the one to make it happen. When it didn't turn out that way it's like they sat down and thought 'how did it come to this?', and they somehow traced all of their own failures back to Michael - feeling like his involvement in their lives (or lack thereof) is the reason why it all panned out the way it did. It's pretty twisted that instead of being grateful for his belief in them and helping them out as much as he did, they feel like his encouragement was nothing but empty promises and now resent him for not reaching those goals and feeling like they've waisted their time trying to get there. I can't believe how bitter they are while they have every reason to be thankful, but like Respect said - you give someone a finger and they want the whole hand. It's like they're trying to get what they feel he should have given them decades ago, although he already gave them more than they deserved and owed nobody anything. I still can't believe people will go this far out of resentment and bitterness, but sadly it's true. Just disgusting.
 
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^ I wonder if they also felt resentment towards him for not being cool to be associated with him any more. I mean it looks like Safechuck tried to break in showbiz in some capacity until 2003-2004. He then gave up and that's when he went into webdesign and started a normal job. At the age of 25-26. I wonder if it was just a coincidence that he gave up his showbiz dreams around the time when Michael got into trouble with the Arvizo false allegations or maybe his giving up had to do with the fact that now MJ was unable to help him and he was not a cool reference any more either. People like these can be so selfish that even when the other is in trouble they can only feel sorry for themselves about how it affects them negatively.
 
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^^I would not be surprised at all.

Also, it's just so annoying how they take the simplest, most innocent things (because that's all they have) and try to twist it and use it as some type of 'evidence'. Which, again, is only showing their lack of actual 'evidence'.
For instance, JS commenting about the tape Michael used on his nose, I remember reading about that a while ago too and it was worded something like 'he even knew his 'bedtime rituals', such as putting tape on his nose before going to bed' and that this showed how 'close' they were. Like.. really? That's the big secret?:smilerolleyes: You don't have to be 'that close' to Michael to know about that, there's like a 100 pictures and videos of him wearing it, lol.
Or calling him Rubba, just one of his common nicknames.. What does that even prove? Are they trying to say it's supposed to be something sexual..?:unsure: I remember he called Emmanuel Lewis Rubba about 5 times in that '84 Grammy footage, lol. Or are they going to claim he molested him too?
That's another thing, maybe they're trying to drag Brett into it because it's just completely unlikely that an actual pedophile would spend so much time hanging out and sharing beds with one kid and do nothing, but molest another. That just does not make any sense, so they probably feel like they have to insinuate he was another 'victim' to make their own claims sound more credible.
 
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All these things like "rubba" come from the prosecution's and tabloid's theories. They tried to make it look like "rubba" meant something perverted like rubbing something. In actuality, it meant rubber head. Safechuck even acknowledges in his complaint it meant rubber head but he seems to try to involve everything the prosecution tried to make a big deal of.

Anyway, here's another thing I found. I am trying to find his mother. Stephanie Safechuck from Simi Valley is 63-years-old:

JEREMY MUEHLER AND STEPHANIE SAFECHUCK WERE NAMED VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR AT THE SIMI VALLEY POLICE/COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP LUNCHEON
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http://sd27.senate.ca.gov/image/201...-were-named-volunteer-year-simi-valley-police

What do you think? Is this the same woman as on the pics the late 80s?

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I don't know...

ETA: According to IMDB Safechuck was an editorial assistant in the 2000 Aston Kutcher-movie "Dude, Where's My Car?"

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2668839/
 
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Looks very similiar and the surname is pretty rare?. all these ppl have one thing in common. they become bitter that being around mj didnt get them what they wanted and its all mjs fault.they all sound like a broken record
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

All these things like "rubba" come from the prosecution's and tabloid's theories. They tried to make it look like "rubba" meant something perverted like rubbing something. In actuality, it meant rubber head. Safechuck even acknowledges in his complaint it meant rubber head but he seems to try to involve everything the prosecution tried to make a big deal of.

Anyway, here's another thing I found. I am trying to find his mother. Stephanie Safechuck from Simi Valley is 63-years-old:

JEREMY MUEHLER AND STEPHANIE SAFECHUCK WERE NAMED VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR AT THE SIMI VALLEY POLICE/COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP LUNCHEON
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http://sd27.senate.ca.gov/image/201...-were-named-volunteer-year-simi-valley-police

What do you think? Is this the same woman as on the pics the late 80s?

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I don't know...

Looks like the same woman to me.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^ And his claims against MJ have provided yet another 'priceless opportunity' for him to be creative.....

The more I think about his statement in his deposition (Para 40) about 'Deced. would run 'drills' and make plaintiff practice putting on his clothes very fast and and running away quietly', the more ludicrous it seems.

Here is someone who is (according to this story) desperate not to be caught with the plaintiff in an unclothed state....so he gets the plaintiff to carry out 'drills' that necessitate the plaintiff getting undressed!
Not only that, but it seems from the latest deposition that a wide range of types of bodily contact are asserted by the plaintiff. As far as I am aware, few of these would require that the plaintiff actually be 'undressed', to the extent that he would have to put his clothes back on. Furthermore, since it was known to JS family and to some degree public knowledge that the plaintiff spent time with the decedent (certainly Neverland staff and hotel staff must have known), why would it be necessary to practice 'running away quietly'? He would still have been visible to anyone in the area. From most TV and film scenarios of 'illicit' relationships that I have seen, the couple who engage in any activity that may be interrupted by a third party, generally try to appear (once clothing has been properly arranged) to be engaged in some other normal activity eg watching TV, or just having a conversation. If he was gong to run away, exactly where would he run to? It's not as if he was going to jump in a car and speed from the scene. . . . This statement of JS's perhaps more than all the rest, seems to show the stupidity of his allegations.

Yes, there are a few stories in his complaint that do not make any sense and I only call them preemtive strikes because that seems to be their only purpose. This seems to be one such story or the story where he has MJ mess up his bed to make it look like it's been slept on etc. It seems like he's afraid that the people who were with him at NL (like the friend that he names in his complaint) might be called as witnesses and they would say that they did not notice or saw anything, so it looks like he's trying to create a story for why no one saw anything suspicious. I agree that to say he was trained to dress up quick and run away does not make any sense. Why would he need to run away instead of just pretending to watch a movie or whatever? I guess he maybe wasn't even that often with MJ and in his room and maybe he needs to create a story for why people going there would not find him there.

Another thing:

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How was his ability to work detrimentally affected? How did he lose past and future earnings? Since 2004 he's been working at the same place. Or will he pull a Wade and say he was on his way to become an international superstar movie director if not for the alleged abuse?

So who are they fooling that this is not about money?
 
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So... his mother is a police officer? Was she working that job when they knew MJ?

And is that Safechuck playing the MJ Wii game there after his death? Even when he knew MJ was a "bad man" and had refused to even speak to him after the trial?

Didn't someone say that his company held a This Is It screening after MJ died?
 
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are we sure that's mj game? respect wrote date was march 2010.the game wasn't released until November 2010.
 
la_cienega;4103681 said:
So... his mother is a police officer? Was she working that job when they knew MJ?

I thought she was a police officer, but no, she's a volunteer. http://www.ci.simi-valley.ca.us/index.aspx?page=232

And is that Safechuck playing the MJ Wii game there after his death? Even when he knew MJ was a "bad man" and had refused to even speak to him after the trial?

No it's not the MJ game. There was also a video of his colleagues playing with it (he wasn't in that video) and it was Whoop There It Is by the Tag Team they were dancing to.

Didn't someone say that his company held a This Is It screening after MJ died?

That's possible. The company mentioned TII on it's FB. In September 2009.

AvatarLabs
September 16, 2009 ·
The very first brand new MySpace Music Takeover features Sony's Michael Jackson film THIS IS IT! http://music.myspace.com/

It's a company with entertainment interest and ties, since they work for entertainment projects as well (like making websites for movie campaigns etc).
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

In his documents Safechuck mentions to have used drugs until 2006. Of course, now he's trying to blame that on alleged abuse as if being in a rock band in California doesn't often lead to such things. But what I am wondering is if that is actually the reason why he refused to testify in 2005. When you go up on a stand to testify the lawyers on both sides are doing investigations and background check on your life, your past and it could have come up and maybe that's what he was really scared of - that his mother would find out.

I still find it amazing how he initially "forgot" about that period between 1997 and 2005 when MJ supposedly called him once a year to keep him in check or else his "life would be ovah". In this latest (which is really the first version of his story - the whole doc is dated May 2014, so when he initially filed it), we have him in Moonpark Community College then cut and we are suddenly in 2005:

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Then it's in his latest decalaration in March 2015 where they added all those stories about MJ calling him once or twice every year during the 1997-2005 period to keep him in check and to threaten him. Obviously they do that because meanwhile they realized that for the equitable estoppel argument they needed something to support their claim that MJ's alleged threats were ongoing. Interesting, because it shows that initially the strategy was to make it look like MJ totally lost interest when Safechuck grew up and he only called him again in 2005 when he wanted him to testify for him. But when they needed to present "ongoing threats" he suddenly remembered that they actually had contact all along. Interesting that you would just "forget" about such traumatic calls the first time you are telling your story...

I can actually believe that there were calls, but not traumatic, threatening ones, which is why they did not mention them the first time around. I can believe MJ calling him once in a while to ask how he was doing, but the additions about MJ asking him about his sex life and threatening him to keep quiet or his life would be over - that's BS of course. If it was true, Safechuck would not have forgot about that the first time they filed his story.

This is just yet another thing among the many, many other elements in his complaint that shows how he is willing to twist and embellish and invent things if it gets him to the goal.
 
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^^I would not be surprised at all.

Also, it's just so annoying how they take the simplest, most innocent things (because that's all they have) and try to twist it and use it as some type of 'evidence'. Which, again, is only showing their lack of actual 'evidence'.
For instance, JS commenting about the tape Michael used on his nose, I remember reading about that a while ago too and it was worded something like 'he even knew his 'bedtime rituals', such as putting tape on his nose before going to bed' and that this showed how 'close' they were. Like.. really? That's the big secret?:smilerolleyes: You don't have to be 'that close' to Michael to know about that, there's like a 100 pictures and videos of him wearing it, lol.
Or calling him Rubba, just one of his common nicknames.. What does that even prove? Are they trying to say it's supposed to be something sexual..?:unsure: I remember he called Emmanuel Lewis Rubba about 5 times in that '84 Grammy footage, lol. Or are they going to claim he molested him too?
That's another thing, maybe they're trying to drag Brett into it because it's just completely unlikely that an actual pedophile would spend so much time hanging out and sharing beds with one kid and do nothing, but molest another. That just does not make any sense, so they probably feel like they have to insinuate he was another 'victim' to make their own claims sound more credible.

I agree. And I think the other thing that he is deliberately trying to do in this deposition is to alienate female fans, by saying that MJ had a poor opinion of women, and discussed them in derogatory terms, eg calling them 'mean' with regard to phone conversations that MJ allegedly listened in to. He will use any small and ordinary event to paint MJ in the worst possible light.
 
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^^Really?? Lol. Well, if that's part of his diabolical plan, that's not going to work. We know better than that.
 
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It's totally a narrative from hater websites who say that because they think portraying MJ as a female-hater strengthens their portrayal of MJ as a gay pedophile.
 
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lol anyone with eyes knows that MJ loved women. He just didn't degrade them like some artists today, which I guess must mean he had a poor opinion of females. smh
 
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Speaking as a gay and a woman, good luck with that Safechunk ;)
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

MJ hated women, but idealized his mother, idealized strong assertive women in his life - Diana Ross, Elizabeth Taylor, was closest to his sister Janet, and raised a daughter who is very feministy and not at all full of self loathing for being a woman.
 
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MJ hated women, but idealized his mother, idealized strong assertive women in his life - Diana Ross, Elizabeth Taylor, was closest to his sister Janet, and raised a daughter who is very feministy and not at all full of self loathing for being a woman.

Exactly! Plus if he hated women so much why is it that the list of people that would be the guardians of his children in the event of his death all happened to be women? They're trying way too hard to paint him as something he wasn't.
 
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So I have been through his complaint and I have a question and a comment. Where is his legal arguments about why the company should be blamed? And like June Chandler, his Mom was around him a lot and noticed nothing... Just saying
 
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So I have been through his complaint and I have a question and a comment. Where is his legal arguments about why the company should be blamed?

Paragraph 91 is all his legal argument for that. That's just basically repeating the law but not saying anything about how the companies in this case can be made responsible under that law. It's nothing and I think it's very likely that the Judge will rule for a leave to amend to give them the chance to add something about the companies and how they are supposedly responsible.

And like June Chandler, his Mom was around him a lot and noticed nothing... Just saying

Yes, it seems like his mother was there most of the time. But like in Robson's case they somehow forget her responsibility while trying to find struggle ways to make the companies responsible. That's just such a give-away in both cases about what it really is about.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

All these things like "rubba" come from the prosecution's and tabloid's theories. They tried to make it look like "rubba" meant something perverted like rubbing something. In actuality, it meant rubber head. Safechuck even acknowledges in his complaint it meant rubber head but he seems to try to involve everything the prosecution tried to make a big deal of.

Anyway, here's another thing I found. I am trying to find his mother. Stephanie Safechuck from Simi Valley is 63-years-old:

JEREMY MUEHLER AND STEPHANIE SAFECHUCK WERE NAMED VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR AT THE SIMI VALLEY POLICE/COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP LUNCHEON
Connecting%20with%20Constituents%20-%20Simi%20Valley%20Police%20Dept_Volunteers%20of%20the%20Year.preview.jpg


http://sd27.senate.ca.gov/image/201...-were-named-volunteer-year-simi-valley-police

What do you think? Is this the same woman as on the pics the late 80s?

michaeljacksonphotos1987w.lizaminnellise0610c.jpg



I don't know...

ETA: According to IMDB Safechuck was an editorial assistant in the 2000 Aston Kutcher-movie "Dude, Where's My Car?"

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2668839/

Wait... There's an earlier pic in this thread (not sure how to attach using my phone) supposedly of MJ and JS's mom together circa 1989/90.... Whereby MJ is in front of her looking a bit sheepish and mischievous and she lingers behind looking smoking hot with hair disheveled (reminds me a bit of Penelope Cruz).... She looks nothing like the mom of JS's above from the same era so now I'm confused as to who the woman is in the pic I speak of? If anyone has it and can upload please do.

S
 
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