[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I have to say I am not liking this IV very much. She spends much time in explaining that Janet was the only one who cared that she gets the credit she deserves for the video, even suggesting under the lines Michael and his team wanted to pretend it with not filming Janet and her behind the scenes.
Also her feelings for preparing the VMA-tribute 2009 (it was so much fun, so silly) are in my opinion not the right word considering Michaels death was not long before.

I disagree. Landon's loyalty is to Janet who she spent more professional time with and seems to have misunderstood Michael's method of working on his short film in comparison to Janet's method with her music videos. I also do not believe Landon was disrespectful when describing the rehearsal of a tribute which was not a somber occasion for quite a number of people. Landon reunited with her peers and that reunion - although under somber circumstances - should have been a joyful time for her and her peers. It is clearly understandable why such a occasion would be somber for Janet however.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Safechuck did it make on a canada tabloid-headline, but I have to say it`s good that they did choose one of his absurd claims " I was married with Michael when I was 8" and not a a headline "he abused me". I think that makes it visible to everyone as a fantasy story.


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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^Married at 8yrs old? Seriously, was the claim that safechuck married mj at age 11 not a bizarre enough story that the tabs decided to make him even younger? It's just a joke to them at this point.

Just catching up with thread, this was interesting in the estate docs, although really opaque -
along with documents other doctors have disclosed in this case, which tend to show that Robson's motivations for filing this action four years after Michael's death were not as pure as he would like a Court and jury to believe."

Why so coy? Does the judge see and read all the docs released for discovery or does he just read the submissions from the plaintiff and defence. Why not spell out what these less than pure motivations are for the judge and for the public. I don't see any chance of this case getting to a trial so i just don't see why there is any holding back in these docs.
 
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He actually claimed he married mj?!!
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Safechuck did it make on a canada tabloid-headline, but I have to say it`s good that they did choose one of his absurd claims " I was married with Michael when I was 8" and not a a headline "he abused me". I think that makes it visible to everyone as a fantasy story.

Goodness; I thought British 'tabloids' were bad enough, but this magazine takes the biscuit! It looks like a colour version of 'The Enquirer'. I'm guessing that no-one ever takes this magazine's stories seriously?
 
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I could use a laugh and some amusement therapy.

Just when you thought National Enquiry and
Daily Mirror could'nt get any weirder,
there're actually some tabloids in this planet
still in the running for the most-over-the-top
trashy news
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

OK-today's the 20th. The hearings are today??
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

OK-today's the 20th. The hearings are today??

Yes. I don't expect an immediate decision in any of the issues. Or if there is one then I think maybe in the issue of discovery regarding Robson's therapist.
 
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Yes. I don't expect an immediate decision in any of the issues. Or if there is one then I think maybe in the issue of discovery regarding Robson's therapist.
Will the attys be there to argue their sides. Maybe we will hear about that.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Yes attorneys will be there. Hard to say if the media or fans will be there and report about it.
 
As expected judge took it under submission. This story doesn't even mention Safechuck

Man sues Michael Jackson’s corporate entities over alleged child molestation
POSTED BY HILLARY JACKSON ON JULY 20, 2015 IN HOLLYWOOD | 11 VIEWS | LEAVE A RESPONSE

Lawyers representing the corporate entities created by Michael Jackson Monday urged dismissal of a civil suit brought by a dancer- choreographer who alleges he was molested by the singer, while the plaintiff’s attorney argued her client still has a viable case.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff previously dismissed Wade Robson’s separate complaint against the estate, finding that it was filed too late. He must now decide whether Robson can proceed in his civil complaint against MJJ Productions Inc. and MJJ Ventures Inc.

Beckloff did not immediately rule, taking the case under submission. He also said he wants to ponder further another motion by the lawyers for the corporations to examine a psychiatrist’s medical records concerning Robson, as well as notes and communications involving the plaintiff. The physician, who is not identified in the Robson attorneys’ court papers, evaluated the effects on the dancer of the alleged abuses by the pop star.

Robson’s attorneys say it is too early to seek the psychiatrist’s information, but lawyers for the Jackson entitities say the data is needed to prepare a separate motion to dismiss the case if Beckloff gives the plaintiff’s a chance to amend the complaint rather than toss it now.

Robson, 32, alleged Jackson molested him between 1990-97, though he testified in the singer’s 2005 child molestation trial — which involved another boy and ended with Jackson’s acquittal — that the entertainer did not abuse him.

Attorney Jonathan Steinsaper, on behalf of the Jackson companies, told Beckloff that Robson’s civil case claims also are time-barred and that his clients cannot be held responsible for alleged behavior by the singer over which they had no control. He said the entire case should be tossed, just the judge did with the plaintiff’s effort to file a late creditor’s claim against the estate.

Robson needed a judge’s permission to bring a late probate court claim because his court papers were filed in May 2013, nearly four years after the entertainer’s June 25, 2009, overdose death at age 50.

“The complaint says nothing about what the corporations could have done,” Steinsapir said. “Here, the exposure to Michael Jackson has nothing to do with the corporations.”

He said the alleged abuses took place at Jackson’s Neverland Ranch and that the corporate entities had no responsibility for what may have gone on there between the singer and Robson.

But lawyer Maryann Marazano, on behalf of Robson, said Norma Staikos, an employee of MJJ Productions at the time, exerted “an extraordinary amount of control” and could have stepped in to protect the plaintiff and others.

“There could have been many steps taken to keep Michael Jackson away from young children and be alone with them and molest them,” Marzano said.

Marzano said arrangements were made through the Jackson companies to bring Robson, who lived in Australia, and other youngsters to Neverland.

Robson says in a sworn statement that he did not realize until many years after the alleged abuses by Jackson stopped that he was a molestation victim. He says May 8, 2012, was a key date for him.

‘I began to recognize for myself that Jackson had molested me,” Robson alleged. “It was on that date in my therapy session … that I first spoke about the sexual activity I had with Jackson. This revelation initiated an enormous emotional, psychological and physiological upheaval in my life that continues until this day.”

— City News Service

http://mynewsla.com/hollywood/2015/...rate-entities-over-alleged-child-molestation/
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It's hysterical, Nora had a lot of control. So much so she could control the boss? Uhh right
 
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That's why I'm happy the estate pointed that out
 
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I guess they still fail to say WHICH steps chould have been taken because Marzano is all talk. "There could have been many" and yet they listed NONE.
 
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This should be tossed. They listed nothing that the corporations could have done and they blame Norma and not one word about Joy who was begging Norma to bring them to America?? Where's mama Joy Robson? Marzano is a fool.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Robson says in a sworn statement that he did not realize until many years after the alleged abuses by Jackson stopped that he was a molestation victim.


This still sounds so ridiculous every time I read it, especially considering the circumstances in this case.

Anyway, to me the whole argument about Norma Staikos sounds weak. They just keep parroting she could have done something to keep MJ (her boss) away from children but they aren't even able to give an example about what she could have done and how.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

According to case summary, Safechuck demurrer is also taken under submission. So now we wait.
 
So they were in LA for SYTYCD. Anyone watched it? I saw they did an old routine, but did the cameras showed Robson?

https://www.facebook.com/feasthawai...598389513/1612812659007640/?type=1&permPage=1

FEAST Hawaii
Yesterday at 10:48pm ·
In LA filling up on creative inspiration to bring to bring home for our next FEAST✨ Tonite our friends @danceonfox celebrate their 10th anniversary Here's a behind the scene peek of a Wade + Amanda Robson creation that is being brought back from many years ago and will air on their special anniversary episode tonite on Fox. Beautiful work @jaimiegoodwin + @hokutokonishi ❤ ‪#‎feasthawaii‬ ‪#‎foodartlove‬ ‪#‎flowerandhummingbird‬ ‪#‎sytycd‬

edited to add:

oh and look to this - https://instagram.com/p/5cdYwaCTDi/

11h
duecefrequency//2017-22-7•// Creators look towards the light :) ....one love to #WadeRobson thank you for allowing me to be apart of your vision, believing I can get the job done. To my brotha @teddyforance ...thank you for this connection. Always keeping me in mind with projects that elevate me and challenge my artistry...I love you man!! #Salute -

#Flight
#ShortFilm
#WadeRobsonCreations
#Dance
#RastafariOnTheMove

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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Ugh. I hadn't watched it yet, but I have it downloaded. Now I don't want to watch it at all ... I hate to seem right about my assumption, but it does appear he's making his way back ... :puke: I'll be in LA in October. If I run into him, I'll give him a swift boot up the a** from everyone (individual kicks for all.) :come_here:
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So once again, what happened to "I cannot work in the entertainment industry and will never be able to again"? What happened to "that part of my life doesn't mean anything to me any more"?

The saddest part is that he is probably telling his lies these people to make them feel sorry for him and these people probably believe him because Robson's side is the only one they will ever hear.

BTW, he looks crap.

ETA: Paula Abdul tweeted about him too.

The Real Paula Abdul

#WadeRobson THANK YOU for your intricate MASTERPIECE. @hokutokonishi & @Jaimie_goodwin that performance was GENIUS! #sytycd#DecadeOfDance

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http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/21/so-you-think-you-can-dance-decade-special
 
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So once again, what happened to "I cannot work in the entertainment industry and will never be able to again"?

He realized he's losing the case thus far, has no moral compass anyways and said "well f**k it" and went back to work :no:
 
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He realized he's losing the case thus far, has no moral compass anyways and said "well f**k it" and went back to work :no:

That's what I think as well. If this went to court, him working again - and in the entertainment industry, dance, films! - would hurt the arguments he makes in his lawsuit. So I suspect his lawyers maybe told him they do not have much chance and so he does not feel the need to put on this "I can never go near entertainment any more" act.
 
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Looks like his own false allegations are taking their toll on him. He looks worse now than he did when he first had his little breakdown.
 
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Wow..He does look like crap. Lying does that to a person though. Having to carry all that bs around on your shoulders knowing you tried to drag an innocent man's name through the mud.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So once again, what happened to "I cannot work in the entertainment industry and will never be able to again"? What happened to "that part of my life doesn't mean anything to me any more"?

The saddest part is that he is probably telling his lies these people to make them feel sorry for him and these people probably believe him because Robson's side is the only one they will ever hear.

BTW, he looks crap.

ETA: Paula Abdul tweeted about him too.



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http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/21/so-you-think-you-can-dance-decade-special
Not really. I know folks who always talk about what people and what someone has done to them and I know they are full of it. I call them drama queens and drama kings.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Couldnt have said it better. either that or its a Miracleeeeee
He realized he's losing the case thus far, has no moral compass anyways and said "well f**k it" and went back to work :no:
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

People have no values that's all I am going to say. He and his wife stabbed MJ in the worst way possible and tried to blackmail his estate into a settlement for tens of millions when they failed they are welcomed back into the industry like nothing happened. wow . only in Hollywood.
 
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No surprises in Hollywood. They've never got MJ's back and they won't start risking anything for him now.

They should however watch their own back because he's an unstable loser, but guess what? I don't care who he's going after next.

IMO SYTYCD is getting old and I doubt the rating is that high, I wouldn't be surprised if it's going to get cancelled like American Idol so their welcoming arms are kind of worthless.

ETA-

looks like they're indeed struggling:

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/so-you-think-you-can-dance-season-12-ratings-37008/

American Idol had more viewers

That's last year's rating chart

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/so-you-think-you-can-dance-season-11-ratings-32718/

Michael's special (3.480 million viewers)

Weds 08/13/2014 11-121.00 -9.09%3.480 -6.20
 
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