[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Michael molested him the second night at the ranch and the next day Wade didn't act any different? Michael was God to him when he was a kid so I am guessing he was not to upset when "God" lost interest in him when he was 14. And few years later he went on and dated two of "Gods" loved ones
 
Michael Jackson “prophesized” that Wade Robson would one day become a film director bigger than two-time Academy Award winner Steven Spielberg — an eerie prediction that ultimately prompted the molestation accuser to have a nervous breakdown and reveal seven years of alleged abuse.

According to documents filed in a Los Angeles Superior Court and obtained by RadarOnline.com, the 30-year-old dancer-choreographer was hired in early 2011 to direct a “large budget” dance film that “Decedent [Jackson] had once ‘prophesized’ Claimant [Robson] would do.”

“But by April 2011, overwhelmed with stress and anxiety, Claimant [Robson] was unable to work and quit the film,” lawyers for Robson wrote in their filing as part of a claim for money against the late singer’s Estate.

“Following the walk-away from the biggest opportunity of his life, Claimant met with a cognitive psychologist for about a month in attempt to understand why his life was unravelling, but never discussed with him the childhood sexual activities with Decedent.”

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Months later, Robson began working again and was back to “invincible status” before he had a final, “complete breakdown” in March, 2012.

He has been unable to work since, it’s claimed.

During the meltdown and amid extreme stress, anxiety, fear and depression, Robson told a psychologist — for the first time — that Jackson had abused him for seven years, beginning at age seven.

“This realization initiated an enormous emotional, psychological and psychological upheaval in my life that continues to this day,” Robson, who was born in Australia, wrote in his seven page, hand-signed declaration to the court.

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He also recalled that fateful conversation with the King of Pop about Spielberg.

At some point during a trip to Los Angeles in 1990, “Doe 1 [Jackson] gave me the nickname ‘Little One’. He continued to call me by that name all the way up until his death in 2009. He also began to fill my head with maxims to live by such as ‘Be in the history books’ and ‘Immortalize yourself’.

“He also prophesized that I would one day be a film director bigger than Steven Spielberg. As far as I was concerned, Doe 1 had written my fate.”

Robson, a father of one, told court: “Since beginning to talk about the abuse, everything in my life has changed. I am no longer in the entertainment business and can never be again. I need a new life for myself and my family; this civil action, which for me involves finally speaking the truth as loud as I suppressed it for all these years, is part of the process.”
 
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When did Wade say he was working on the Imortal?
 
Robson, a father of one, told court: “Since beginning to talk about the abuse, everything in my life has changed. I am no longer in the entertainment business and can never be again. I need a new life for myself and my family; this civil action, which for me involves finally speaking the truth as loud as I suppressed it for all these years, is part of the process.”

Was Robson in court yesterday?

Is it me or he basically blames his breakdown for Michael putting a pressure on him to achieve big things? And since he did not manage to achieve those things he now feels a need to get back at him? Maybe that's one of his motivations? Apart from his obvious grab at money.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

*Little One*? Michael called Blanket Little One.
 
I suppressed it for all these years, is part of the process.”


Suppressed it means repressed memories. Now we know why Levin was so exicted when talking about this case. And Wade blew it for him and himself going on TV
 
shelly_webster;3856453 said:
Months later, Robson began working again and was back to “invincible status” before he had a final, “complete breakdown” in March, 2012.”

do we have him praising MJ in/after March 2012?
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

do we have him praising MJ in/after March 2012?

In July 2012 he was praising Michael in his Masterclass Legends interview. You can find it on youtube.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

In July 2012 he was praising Michael in his Masterclass Legends interview. You can find it on youtube.

I thought people said it was updated july 2012 but recorded earlier?
 
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I thought people said it was updated july 2012 but recorded earlier?

The studio that made it uploaded it on July 13th 2012 so I can't see it being filmed too much before that. Maybe someone can contact them and ask them? I'm sure there is a way of finding out when the interview was done.
 
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Theres Footage from the middle of march think its the masterclass u are talking about
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The woman who did that interview has a Twitter account. In March 2012, she said she was doing an interview with Wade.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Wade's claims are actually laughable. At the age of 22 he didn't realise that what allegedly happened to him was wrong, that he was abused?! It is pathetic, a desperate, desperate attempt at getting a big pay out from Michael's Estate.

Btw, this story is still not being given much attention by the mainstream UK media. So far!
 
Michael Jackson “prophesized” that Wade Robson would one day become a film director bigger than two-time Academy Award winner Steven Spielberg — an eerie prediction that ultimately prompted the molestation accuser to have a nervous breakdown and reveal seven years of alleged abuse.

According to documents filed in a Los Angeles Superior Court and obtained by RadarOnline.com, the 30-year-old dancer-choreographer was hired in early 2011 to direct a “large budget” dance film that “Decedent [Jackson] had once ‘prophesized’ Claimant [Robson] would do.”

“But by April 2011, overwhelmed with stress and anxiety, Claimant [Robson] was unable to work and quit the film,” lawyers for Robson wrote in their filing as part of a claim for money against the late singer’s Estate.

“Following the walk-away from the biggest opportunity of his life, Claimant met with a cognitive psychologist for about a month in attempt to understand why his life was unravelling, but never discussed with him the childhood sexual activities with Decedent.”

Man... This is one of the most incoherent, crazy ramblings I've read since Janet Arvizo made her case about being whisked away in hot air balloons. I have no idea what I'm actually reading, other than it sounds like Wade failed at two big projects including Michael's Cirque du Soleil (drugs would not surprise me at all) and as a result decided to blame it all on Michael--due to Michael 'prophesizing' that he'd be a bigger director than Steven Spielberg. Michael "wrote his fate" and when that didn't happen then suddenly he says Michael molested him for much of his childhood? What a lunatic.

Robson, a father of one, told court: “Since beginning to talk about the abuse, everything in my life has changed. I am no longer in the entertainment business and can never be again. I need a new life for myself and my family; this civil action, which for me involves finally speaking the truth as loud as I suppressed it for all these years, is part of the process.”

And there is Wade forshadowing that he will continue to do paid media interviews as part of his "healing" process. He admits his career is over, and therefore his only future income consists of hopeful victory in the civil cases and paid tabloid/media interviews. What a great role model he will be to his son: "If your career fails, just make up stories and sell them to the highest bidder. Don't be afraid to completely betray the one who helped start your career and mentored you throughout life, either."
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

If MJ molested him then why did he tell him "they are making up all these lies about you and I". I mean supposedly he was talking to the boy he molested. So why would he say that to that boy if he really molested him? Doesn't make sense.

I wonder if like so many others they too taped Michael's phones and if there are existing tapes on which Michael says some of these things, like that these were lies and it was "disgusting sexual stuff" that he was accused of and if they will try to twist and say it was a "role play" and use that against him. Because otherwise I don't see the sense in them including these in their claim. Michael describing it as "disgusting sexual stuff" goes against the notion that he told him it was love and that Wade believed it was love. Michael telling him "they are making up all these lies about you and I" goes against the notion that it was true.

Yes, i wondered that too, plenty people taped mj on the phone, maybe they have some tapes of mj saying 'it's all lies'. At first wade says mj told him it was love and ignorant people will misunderstand it and try and denounce it. And then wade introduces these banal role plays of mj saying it's all lies and disgusting and wade saying yeah, no way. I was expecting really quite sophisticated role plays and cia level brainwashing techniques that mj practised on him as they were meant to have worked for 20 years through constant media scrutiny and a high profile criminal trial and years beyond mj's death. But it just seems to be 'we never did any of that, right?' and 'we can't let them do this' - how effective is that? 11 yr old wade was questioned by a hard boiled fixer, pellicano, in 93, he doesn't mess around and is adept at finding out trouble and then of course in 05 22 yr old wade is x exam by zonen.

The inclusion of the shower scenario and the porn is just so opportunisitic - he's just using everything he's seen being used before. Surprised jesus juice hasn't made an appearance. And what happened to the 'grooming', the years of phone calls, the presents, the trips to monte, the cartier jewellery for the mums - the pattern. Second night mj pounces. He only met 5yr old wade and mrs wade at a meet and greet backstage on tour, never took their phone number. and then 2 yrs later on a trip to usa, they call completely out of the blue and see him at a recording studio and he invites them there and then to neverland for the week, and second night begins a sexual relationship with the boy, with the sister in the same bedroom and mum and dad down the hallway?
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

when did WR try to work on the cirque du soleil show?
 
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Wade's sister Chantal just left another facebook comment:


"My brother was abused as a child, and is now dealing with changing his entire life in reaction to the pain he now feels and understands as an adult. This is not something that goes away over night. Children have to deal with the emotional trama of abuse their entire lives. They need our support."

Restore funding to the Victims of Child Abuse Act - Sign the Petition!
Chantal just signed this petition on Change.org. "
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^ They are trying really hard.

I wonder if Chantal will be the new Star Arvizo. Since they claim she was in the room when Wade was first abused. Though not likely they will go there and claim that Chantal witnessed it, because then they would have to say that Chantal too knowinly lied under oath in 2005.
 
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^ They are trying really hard.

IKR. It's pathetic how they're using these charities to bolster their fake abuse claims. But what do you expect from people with no sense of morals or values?
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I honestly think WR is doing this crap to get back at the Estate for not hiring him for the Cirque du soleil show. he's essentially telling the estate "I invested all my life in MJ and that's how you're repaying me? huh? now I'll teach you a lesson." enter molestation charges.

This is the same technique that the Arvizos used in 2003. when MJ kicked them out of Neverland following the bashir interview, the next day they went shopping for lawyers to help them with the molestation charges.

Jordan Chandler is pretty much the same story. Parents wanting MJ to boost their film career in Hollywood. when that did not work out, suddenly MJ became a child molester.

there is a pattern of extortion and shakedown. WR is getting less and less coverage even after his nonsense was release to the public. Just google MJ and the results is about cirque du soleil and Prince testimony and the kids private home videos.
 
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"In 2002, when Plaintiff was twenty (20) years old, Plaintiff's father committed suicide by hanging himself. Plaintiff recently learned from his father's sister that the thought that Plaintiff might have been sexually abuse by Doe 1 was huge source of anxiety and depression for his father."

Everything is blamed on MJ. Even the suicide of his father...
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

oh my god, he just didn't
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

His story is all over the place IMO.

When he testified in 2005 he wasn't just asked "Did Michael Jackson molest you?" He was specifically asked about specific acts: "Did he do this to you?" "Did he do that to you?" So even if he did not understand it was abuse (which would be ridiculous from a 22-year-old man in itself, but let's pretend for a while) when he was specifically asked "Did he do this to you?" then why didn't he answer "yes"? Even if he did not understand it was abuse? And how could he not realize it was abuse when according to his story Michael threatened him with jail? How could he not realize it was abuse when Michael was on criminal trial with similar allegations? So how doesn't it occur to a 22-year-old man under those circumstances that it was abuse? His story does not make any sense.

You hit on the head there, as I mentioned (sorry I keep saying this) I was an ACTUAL victim of molestation, I honestly did not know it was molestation until I was older but if someone, anyone, had asked me, or questioned me about those event's which occurred in my life I would have known, or came to realise very quickly that I was abused, consider the questioning at the trial.

I am assuming Mr Robson was questioned pre trial by lawyers, and if he did not AT THAT STAGE UNDERSTAND what had allegedly happened to him in the past, THEN HE IS LYING, PLAIN AND SIMPLE
 
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Everything is blamed on MJ. Even the suicide of his father...

This is ridiculous. So Wade's father was so worried about the potential abuse that he killed himself over it but even that didn't ring a bell with Wade that there might be something wrong with what happened to him? And his father never expressed his concern with authorities or therapists, or even the people around him? And a year later, Wade's mother and the rest of his family stands by Michael's side as he is accused of child abuse again? Didn't Joy say in court that she never had any doubt that MJ molested Wade? So even after her husband supposedly committed suicide over this Joy didn't suspect a thing? :unsure:

Wade is doing exactly what I hoped he would do. He's going overboard, Arvizo style.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I wonder if his Dad every asked him? And if he was so concerned why did you let your son visit the ranch so much? It was little wonder why is mom went back to Australia
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Didn't Joy say in court that she never had any doubt that MJ molested Wade? So even after her husband supposedly committed suicide over this Joy didn't suspect a thing? :unsure:
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Robson, when he took the stand, flatly rejected testimony from one witness who said he saw Robson in a shower with Jackson.
"We just feel so vindicated right across the board,'' said Joy Robson, who watched the verdict live on TV from her LA home.
"We were crying and screaming and crying and screaming.''
The Robson family has kept in close contact with Jackson during the trial, with Joy last speaking to him when the defence and prosecution rested their cases.
"He's always reasonably optimistic,'' she said.
"He has a lot of faith and relies a lot on his faith.
"He did ask me to pray for him. We all believed ultimately the truth would come out.''
Joy Robson said she never doubted Jackson was innocent, despite the serious charges against him.

She said the world has the wrong impression of the entertainer.
"I've never questioned Michael,'' she said.

"That's the bottom line. I've never ever had a second of a concern.
"I don't care what people say of me.
"You have to know Michael to understand.
"I've always said to Michael `I wished the world could know the Michael we do'.
"He's not what the media makes him out to be.''

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Peopl...ns-defence-case/2005/06/14/1118645780742.html
 
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