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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I would never give those idiots the time of day. MJ haters have no life. It's a couple few of them that come together and put up these pages and troll around the internet. You know the situation is pathetic when there is a desperate need for supporters. They also said that they delete any fan's comments defending Michael. They're deliberately ignoring the truth. So if that's how they want to be, so be it. I'm not the one wasting my life obsessing over someone I hate.
analogue said:
I've been hearing a lot of MJ being played on the radio lately, more so than usual. So this false allegation from Robson hasn't effect MJ in anyway. So there's some good news. Today i heard Billie Jean, Another Part Of Me, Beat It, Smooth Criminal, They Don't Care About Us, Dirty Diana, Blame It On The Boogie, Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel and Black Or White, and this is just in one day
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I've noticed this as well, here in my state. I've heard BJ, Beat It, I Just Can't Stop Loving You, WBSS, Black or White, and PYT so much lately. It's great.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

As we all know Wade firstly claimed it was "repressed memory" by a statement through his lawyer ..well that wasn't working as R/M was proved to be a heap of bull so now he is going with: "unwilling to understand it was sexual abuse" and said he said in court that he "said what he understood"..which we all also know to be bull also because of his court testimony.

Now a relative of Wade's tells quite another story:

A relative called Jonathan ..I am unsure how he is related to Wade.. I am thinking a cousin maybe?

Anyway he says:

"I am a family member of Wade's, and have spoken to him personally about what he has gone through. Wade is a real person with a normal life, family and friends (someone I grew up with) - Not someone who only lives on the TV.

Wade is a good and respectable person, maybe a little more than your average person (speak to anyone who knows him or has worked with him). He is also the most naturally talented person I have ever met (it irritates me some times).

It is not my place to give the details, but you can be sure that he is not lying about being molested.

Shame is the simple answer to why he took so long to come out about it "

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.....But I thought he couldn't understand it was abuse? If you cannot understand something was abuse how do you feel shame for it?

"So long to come out about it" ?? But I thought he only realized it was wrong a year ago?

Am I getting my facts right? Can someone please clear things up for me I'm just far too confused :scratch:
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'd understand from a child not processing he/she was abused. They mustn't be exposed sexually in any form at that stage of their lives, so it'd make sense they didn't know those criminal acts have a sexual nature but from a 30+ year old grown up dude who already slept with women and had a son is idiotic and lame excuse. I've read some comments of people who were abused saying some of them in those years didn't understand/know they were being raped or molested but they sure knew they didn't like it, they wanted to get away from those mofos and it was wrong. I bet he's the only one who buys that pathetic excuse!
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

MJLym - no need to be confused!

Wade is still trying to figure out how to sell why he is now coming forward. Bear with him.

If he is goes with the whole 'shame' scenario - it definitely negates what he said on the Today show. He had to have understood that it was sexual abuse in order to be ashamed. So he lied to Matt Lauer.

What is your source for this? Is it credible? Cause if he is going with 'shame' after claiming 'not understanding', he is in a whole world of trouble!!! LOL. Maybe this family member is assuming it is shame but does not know for sure.
 
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TheChosenOne said:
MJLym - no need to be confused!

Wade is still trying to figure out how to sell why he is now coming forward. Bear with him.

If he is goes with the whole 'shame' scenario - it definitely negates what he said on the Today show. He had to have understood that it was sexual abuse in order to be ashamed. So he lied to Matt Lauer.

What is your source for this? Is it credible? Cause if he is going with 'shame' after claiming 'not understanding', he is in a whole world of trouble!!! LOL. Maybe this family member is assuming it is shame but does not know for sure.
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Credible?:unsure: Many will probably think not as it was on yahoo answers.
http://answers.yahoo.com/activity?show=jomqIQATaa

I personally believe it to be his relative (I'm guessing Wade's cousin / Mothers nephew ) for a few reasons:

1.The name obviously ... Wade's relative is coincidentally called Jonathan also.
2.Jonathan is also close with the Robson's, they grew up together as I believe it to be him in a old family photo as a kid with Wade's sister and they are both from the same location in Australia.
3. Judging by his facebook sounds as though he has some expertise about computer issues..he answers only one other question over a year ago about some computer issue. ...Coincidence?
4. There is also similarities in how he writes things.

I doubt this guy is a troll.. Why would a troll go/research to a length such as this? to pretend to be someone else, write these things like this and to answer just 1 question out of the blue after a year? It doesn't make any sense.

I have also noticed this is quite a trend with Wade's family & friends, they are all basically advertising Wade's story online.
Chantal, Gregory, Kathryn, Jonathan a few others and Even Wade himself with a fake facebook account.

"Maybe this family member is assuming it is shame but does not know for sure"

...No I really think not ...notice what this Jonathan says: " have spoken to him personally about what he has gone through. "
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^So they found a new campaign method. Ever so often, they will get a new person to come out and claim that yes Wade was molested. They will also give another reason why he waited till now to file twice for money.

Wade is sick morally, since he put in a creditor's claim 1st, and then sue the entities later. It is almost as though he is saying for services rendered, you owe me X amount of money. He should be ashamed of that.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

analogue said:
I've been hearing a lot of MJ being played on the radio lately, more so than usual. So this false allegation from Robson hasn't effect MJ in anyway. So there's some good news. Today i heard Billie Jean, Another Part Of Me, Beat It, Smooth Criminal, They Don't Care About Us, Dirty Diana, Blame It On The Boogie, Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel and Black Or White, and this is just in one day
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I wish they would play songs like They Don't Care About Us here. I would never hear it on the radio. Those DJs should blast it. Anything beyond the Dangerous album I never hear on the radio in the U.S. Heck even hearing songs from that album are rare. It's usually always OTW, Thriller or Bad songs.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

MJLovesyoumore said:
As we all know Wade firstly claimed it was "repressed memory" by a statement through his lawyer ..well that wasn't working as R/M was proved to be a heap of bull so now he is going with: "unwilling to understand it was sexual abuse" and said he said in court that he "said what he understood"..which we all also know to be bull also because of his court testimony.

Now a relative of Wade's tells quite another story:

A relative called Jonathan ..I am unsure how he is related to Wade.. I am thinking a cousin maybe?

Anyway he says:

"I am a family member of Wade's, and have spoken to him personally about what he has gone through. Wade is a real person with a normal life, family and friends (someone I grew up with) - Not someone who only lives on the TV.

Wade is a good and respectable person, maybe a little more than your average person (speak to anyone who knows him or has worked with him). He is also the most naturally talented person I have ever met (it irritates me some times).

It is not my place to give the details, but you can be sure that he is not lying about being molested.

Shame is the simple answer to why he took so long to come out about it "

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.....But I thought he couldn't understand it was abuse? If you cannot understand something was abuse how do you feel shame for it?

"So long to come out about it" ?? But I thought he only realized it was wrong a year ago?

Am I getting my facts right? Can someone please clear things up for me I'm just far too confused :scratch:
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I guess shame is a good defense in their eyes for lying under oath, but every shame eveaporates when he can file for money... Alright.

Plus, did shame make him voluntarily go out there and praise Michael for 20 years? Did shame make him say things like Michael was the reason he believed in the pure goodness of mankind? Did shame make him socialize with his alleged abuser up until 2008? Did shame make him desperate for the Cirque job?

And is it shame also the reason for ridiculous claims such as he didn't know until March 2013 that there was an Estate?

I guess all these relatives campaigning for him online believe Wade's lie. I can't blame them, to believe your relative/friend is the natural reaction. They probably don't even think it over logically. Otherwise they would be able to see the holes in his story.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

You think they would have a meeting and decide which story to stick with lol. whoops!
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I hope i got this right, but I didnt like how in that tv interview he gave if i rememebr rightly he said soemthing along the lines of how 'typical' his situation is, im assuming he is referring to the 'not understanding it was abuse' thing. Its like he is syaing 'look it has happened to other people so thats proof im telling the truth'
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

laurenjayne said:
I hope i got this right, but I didnt like how in that tv interview he gave if i rememebr rightly he said soemthing along the lines of how 'typical' his situation is, im assuming he is referring to the 'not understanding it was abuse' thing. Its like he is syaing 'look it has happened to other people so thats proof im telling the truth'
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Yeah, that's what he's basing his case on. It's clear he read the textbooks before he made his allegations because he uses a lot of textbook language.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

He says:

Wade is a good and respectable person, maybe a little more than your average person (speak to anyone who knows him or has worked with him).
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Well, a lot of people who have worked with him say he's arrogant and entitled.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

respect77 said:
He says:



Well, a lot of people who have worked with him say he's arrogant and entitled.
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Of course this guy is gonna make wade look like a saint if he is a family member of wades that is what hes gonna say
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

analogue said:
I've been hearing a lot of MJ being played on the radio lately, more so than usual. So this false allegation from Robson hasn't effect MJ in anyway. So there's some good news. Today i heard Billie Jean, Another Part Of Me, Beat It, Smooth Criminal, They Don't Care About Us, Dirty Diana, Blame It On The Boogie, Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel and Black Or White, and this is just in one day
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Yeh here in australia they have been playing his music alot too songs like "the way u make me feel" "blame it on the boogie" its cool
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

If this is his family they are not doing him any favors at all
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

One that victimizes, plunders, or destroys, especially for one's own gain.

An animal that lives by capturing and eating other animals.

an animal that hunts and seizes other animals for food

These are definitions of a predator.

I still can't see these definitions being applied to Michael Jackson and especially because Michael Jackson would publicly state "he shared his bed" with these preteenager's.

I don't see Michael Jackson doing this for his own gain.

During the Trial, Michael Jackson's finances were looked into. Why? Because it showed the motivation behind why Michael Jackson was a predator. The only problem with that is back in 1993, Michael was making millions of dollars doing different deals, recording and touring. It's a double standard to say the least.

Wade Robson should have nailed Michael Jackson before he died. Debbie Rowe surprised the District Attorney with her testimony, why didn't Wade Robson do the same, if he truly believed he was victimized, plundered, or destroyed by the gain of Michael Jackson. The pattern just isn't there. Unless a serial killer is incarcerated they will go on killing and not sporadically.
 
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Double post
 
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Just a link to a facebook page against Wade Robson, lets get the likes on this page up!!!

(sorry if someone has already posted this)

https://www.facebook.com/AgainstTheLiarWadeRobson?hc_location=stream


Update number of Likes have increased from 295 (approx, I did not make this facebook page) to 302, COME ON PEOPLE!!!!.

I'm sure you have friends who are not on the MJJ community but love MJ, why not ask them to like the page too!
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

If you have read my 2 previous comments and wondered if the comment made by Wade's relative left on yahoo answers was legit.

It is definitely his cousin! I have just noticed 2 other comments left by him:

Yahoo answers comment by Jonathan:

"I am sorry to hear you feel that way. It sounds like you have made up your mind and it doesn't matter what I could say.

For those that come here in the future, here is something that might add just a little bit of credibility to who I am and what I am saying.
http://postimg.org/image/mgcuodutz/
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The hat was given to me by Wade on one of his visits back to Australia. WaJeRo stands for Wade Jeramey Robson and its what he used at times, look it up. "

Click the comment tab below chosen answer:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...jwJYJyUjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20130612044840AA2kVTu
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^The :censored:? He got some desperate ways to get his B.S heard if that is true? I mean seriously he got a cousin making comments on Yahoo? :mello: LMAO! I say leave this shit in the hands of the law and stop playing dumb games WADE! God what a LOSER!-_-
 
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That cousin should know that if Wade was molested, he does not need a facebook page to beg people to believe him. All Wade has to do is take his story to court; let the estate lawyers questions him on all his impossible assertions, like not knowing there was an estate; continue with the hearings; and let the legal system take its course. Facebook is NOT going to win that case for him or prove him innocent. Someone should explain that to the cousin and all family members. Who cares if he can prove he is related to Wade. That is not going to help Wade prove his innocence. They all need to be quiet and come to the court as witnesses. I would love to see the estate lawyer deal with all of them. Wade probably promised some good money to these people.

Blue we were posting the same thing about letting the court handle it.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Petrarose said:
That cousin should know that if Wade was molested, he does not need a facebook page to beg people to believe him. All Wade has to do is take his story to court; let the estate lawyers questions him on all his impossible assertions, like not knowing there was an estate; continue with the hearings; and let the legal system take its course. Facebook is NOT going to win that case for him or prove him innocent. Someone should explain that to the cousin and all family members. Who cares if he can prove he is related to Wade. That is not going to help Wade prove his innocence. They all need to be quiet and come to the court as witnesses. I would love to see the estate lawyer deal with all of them. Wade probably promised some good money to these people.
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Honestly, I don't think all of Wade's friends and family are conspiring together to get money out of this. They probably just support him because they love him and they don't want to believe - or even consider the possibility - that he's lying about something like this. It doesn't surprise me.
 
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^^Maybe not all are getting money, but certainly some in the family will get a cut. Anyone who testifies for him will be telling lies, so they will get a cut too.

I love my family but if they help me with a million dollar case, you can bet people will be expecting $$$$$ after.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't see how any relatives of Wade (who didn't testify in 05) like this "cousin" can testify to anything? Other then they might have been one of the many freeloaders at Neverland too!? Whom vacationed/visited MJs house without him there on several occasions and then wanna talk ish later!-_-
 
Recognizing Child Abuse

The Parent and Child:
Rarely touch or look at each other
Consider their relationship entirely negative
State that they do not like each other

Signs of Emotional Maltreatment
Consider the possibility of emotional maltreatment when the child:

Shows extremes in behavior, such as overly compliant or demanding behavior, extreme passivity, or aggression
Is either inappropriately adult (parenting other children, for example) or inappropriately infantile (frequently rocking or head-banging, for example)
Is delayed in physical or emotional development
Has attempted suicide
Reports a lack of attachment to the parent
Consider the possibility of emotional maltreatment when the parent or other adult caregiver:

Constantly blames, belittles, or berates the child
Is unconcerned about the child and refuses to consider offers of help for the child's problems
Overtly rejects the child
https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/factsheets/signs.cfm
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Quo was a short-lived rap group composed of Wade Robson (born 1982) and DeWayne Turrentine (born 1979) that was signed to Michael Jackson's Epic Records sub-label, MJJ Music during the explosion of kid rap duos. The duo came together in 1994 and released the single "Blowin' Up (Don't Stop the Music)" which became a minor hip hop hit, charting on both the Hot Rap Singles chart and the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs. On October 25, 1994, the duo's self-titled album was released but failed to make it to any of the Billboard charts. The following year, a second single, "Quo Funk," was released, which heavily sampled the Jacksons' “This Place Hotel,” but it only made it to #2 on the Bubbling Under R&B/Hip-Hop Singles. After "Quo Funk," the duo disbanded, with Wade Robson becoming a successful choreographer, producer, and actor; while DeWayne Turrentine became a fashion model and married actress Reagan Gomez-Preston and has two children a daughter named Scarlett Annette Turrentine (born May 13, 2007) and son Tyger Turrentine (born 2011). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quo_(group)
[video=youtube;ozuGCRT7jSA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozuGCRT7jSA[/video]
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

LindavG said:
Honestly, I don't think all of Wade's friends and family are conspiring together to get money out of this. They probably just support him because they love him and they don't want to believe - or even consider the possibility - that he's lying about something like this. It doesn't surprise me.
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I agree. I don't think Wade tells each and every of his relatives and friends: "Look, I'm going to make false allegations against MJ, would you support me in this?" It's more likely that he lies to them as well and they believe him because, well, he is their relative/friend after all.

Maybe those who are closest to him, like his wife, know it's a lie - or even they are plotting together. But I don't think everyone in his family/circle of friends knowingly supports a lie. They are just mislead.

What I'd like to know what he told his mother and sister. Whether they are in it with Wade or they are mislead too. If Wade lied about it to his mother as well that would be extremely cruel, because imagine the guilt that would inflict in her.
 
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LindavG said:
Honestly, I don't think all of Wade's friends and family are conspiring together to get money out of this. They probably just support him because they love him and they don't want to believe - or even consider the possibility - that he's lying about something like this. It doesn't surprise me.
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Exactly. Personally, I really don't think Wade's camp should be out in public trying to gain support for this since it is a matter for the court. They're trying too hard to get people who don't believe him to switch sides, in my opinion. In fact, why should anybody believe him since he basically is saying that he lied under oath in the past during two different cases of court proceedings by defending the very same person he's accusing now?
 
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Very good video!
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Call me cynical guys, but there is a depth and range to human behavior that many of you don't understand and reading about crimes in the paper is not the same as seeing certain actions take place. I work in homes and the people appear wonderful, sweet, love their children and moms, etc. However, some have killed for monetary gain and the people in the house know it and went to court to lie to help the members, which is why some only spend 5-8 years in prison. Some bring family members together to do bad things, like plan stick ups; go and beat someone up to near death; rob places; send grandma to visit son in prison and place drugs in her hair for her to give son; have illegal guns in their homes and use it for robbery & to defend themselves; have gone out to commit a crime and run back home to give the mom the gun to hide, because the cops were called and the mom knows and knows where the money comes from; sell crack, cocaine right by the houses; some of the females would get arrested and the judge will let them go, because the judge pays them for sex, so they don't care if they are arrested; etc. These family members will go to court for each other or friends and lie for the person. I hear them planning their lies. Sometimes I see when certain people get a call and run out of the house to do something. If I did not see, they will sit and tell me what they did. Even those who told me they killed people say it in a natural way. Being a friend has nothing to do with it, since some have laughed with me & I have helped them in personal matters, but they have still tried to scam me even though they have said they like me. Sometimes on Monday when I go back to work a person would say "girl I have been waiting for you to come today; if you know the shit that went down this weekend." Then, I would hear about who was beating up who, and called for their "shit" (a gun). I am telling you guys that sometimes I can't enter a building due to the blood at the front and the police tape around it. Now I am in these people's homes for reasons that has nothing to do with their actions in society, so I listen and marvel about how people have different sides. How they look so normal and like the guy next door, but are engaged in behaviors that people will not believe. Every year I look into the eyes of people who are abusers, murderers, have raped their women, etc. In fact, I would go in one day and the woman would tell me how the man raped her last night. He told her you either do it willingly or I am going to get it anyway. The women always claim they just lie and let the men do it until it is over. Sometimes they show me their torn clothes. Then, the same men talk to me so nicely, you will never know. It is because of these experiences, that I am not going to take everything at face value.

I feel all Wade's relatives who are pushing this advertisement know he is lying, since families of abusers do not go on campaigns. There has been no huge media coverage shouting that Wade is lying, so there would be no need for family members to try to convince people that Wade is telling the truth. If the main media is not saying Wade is a liar, the family, under normal circumstances would simple stay quiet and wait for the case. So why do these particular family members come out trying to convince people that Wade is telling the truth? Abused victims do not have to campaign for people to believe them if they know it is the truth. The mere fact they are doing a campaign means they know it is not true so they need to push the idea that it is true, so people will believe. Notice that Wade is quiet while they campaign, so the plan must be that Wade will keep quiet so it will seem that the victim is laying low, and the faithful family is doing this all on their own. I think Wade told them this is what he is going to do, and he told them what they are to do. He is doing this with the family members who are advocating for him. In the end, all are expecting they will benefit financially.
 
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