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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe
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Kingofpop4ever3000
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I agree. From everything I've heard, Wade was not doing well with his career in recent years. He had either quit or lost his choreography job with Britney. The other Cirque du Soleil Show he got a job with tanked. And he did not get the job with the MJ tribute show that he had spent so much time bragging about. He also had to know of the existence of the Estate because they were involved with Cirque du Soleil on the MJ tribute shows. Also, the Estate has been in the news for various reasons almost constantly since Michael died. So how can Wade really claim that he didn't know? That is just another blow to his credibility in my opinion. There is just too much wrong with this whole thing.
I agree. From everything I've heard, Wade was not doing well with his career in recent years. He had either quit or lost his choreography job with Britney. The other Cirque du Soleil Show he got a job with tanked. And he did not get the job with the MJ tribute show that he had spent so much time bragging about. He also had to know of the existence of the Estate because they were involved with Cirque du Soleil on the MJ tribute shows. Also, the Estate has been in the news for various reasons almost constantly since Michael died. So how can Wade really claim that he didn't know? That is just another blow to his credibility in my opinion. There is just too much wrong with this whole thing.
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I'm not sure what to expect, I just wanted to add:
Wade must be pissed. He TRIED to feed his story to the media, but all you hear are CRICKETS!
I'm sure he thought that folks from far and wide would have requested an interview with him. NOT!
He went to the media, and they basically ignored him, in my opinion.
Is that Facebook page still BEGGING folks for support?
I'm not sure what to expect, I just wanted to add:
Wade must be pissed. He TRIED to feed his story to the media, but all you hear are CRICKETS!
I'm sure he thought that folks from far and wide would have requested an interview with him. NOT!
He went to the media, and they basically ignored him, in my opinion.
Is that Facebook page still BEGGING folks for support?
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
^ Well, it seems at first they just wanted a quiet pay-off. When it came out they changed the game plan and started a media campaign. But then they realized it may not make him look good in the Judge's eyes (just like Judge Pastor didn't like Murray's media antics - documentary etc. - so much that IIRC he even brought it up while reasoning his judgement), so now they say they did that only to "defend himself". Not like to "defend himself" it would not have been enough to release a statement to the same media which published Weitzman's. No, they have to call Michael names ("monster)", his lawyer has to talk to TMZ several times AND Wade has to go on national TV. Based on the fact they went on national TV it seems to me they really expected this to blow up big. But it feel flat. Then came the whole Paris thing and I guess even he relaizes it wouldn't make him look good if he beat the drums in the media now. Also the same judge deals with the Paris issue as with Wade's creditor's claim, so he probably would not appreciate to see Wade all over in the media.
^ Well, it seems at first they just wanted a quiet pay-off. When it came out they changed the game plan and started a media campaign. But then they realized it may not make him look good in the Judge's eyes (just like Judge Pastor didn't like Murray's media antics - documentary etc. - so much that IIRC he even brought it up while reasoning his judgement), so now they say they did that only to "defend himself". Not like to "defend himself" it would not have been enough to release a statement to the same media which published Weitzman's. No, they have to call Michael names ("monster)", his lawyer has to talk to TMZ several times AND Wade has to go on national TV. Based on the fact they went on national TV it seems to me they really expected this to blow up big. But it feel flat. Then came the whole Paris thing and I guess even he relaizes it wouldn't make him look good if he beat the drums in the media now. Also the same judge deals with the Paris issue as with Wade's creditor's claim, so he probably would not appreciate to see Wade all over in the media.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
^^Yes that is one thing I felt that was good in this horrible mess, that the same judge deals with it, and is getting information from an investigator. Now when the judge eventually says bye bye to this case after several hearings, he is going to remember how this fraudulent piece affected a child, and he is not going to be happy.
^^Yes that is one thing I felt that was good in this horrible mess, that the same judge deals with it, and is getting information from an investigator. Now when the judge eventually says bye bye to this case after several hearings, he is going to remember how this fraudulent piece affected a child, and he is not going to be happy.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
me too.. Can the judge look at Wade's 2005 court room testimony and all the videos, blog, and opus journals since MJ died? Those videos alone can show Wade is lying and that these allegations are concocted and a money grab.
me too.. Can the judge look at Wade's 2005 court room testimony and all the videos, blog, and opus journals since MJ died? Those videos alone can show Wade is lying and that these allegations are concocted and a money grab.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Any news about today?
Any news about today?
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Maybe we will hear something tomorrow. Isn't this about sealing? I forgot. I wonder if Wade found a job yet. He sits in Hawaii since he does not have to attend the proceedings. Isn't it great that you can make a big mess, then run away to a sunny island? He reminds me of the brokers and other financiers who steal money then run away to the Pacific.
Maybe we will hear something tomorrow. Isn't this about sealing? I forgot. I wonder if Wade found a job yet. He sits in Hawaii since he does not have to attend the proceedings. Isn't it great that you can make a big mess, then run away to a sunny island? He reminds me of the brokers and other financiers who steal money then run away to the Pacific.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
They should make his ass come to court since is the one making these fake claims! wimp he is!
They should make his ass come to court since is the one making these fake claims! wimp he is!
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Im not sure maybe he can
Im not sure maybe he can
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This site I mentioned a few pages back when it first started ( https://www.facebook.com/waderobsonsupporters ) . . has turned pretty sour, so I will spare you the details (you may want to avoid reading it if you suffer with blood pressure!) lol
Anyhow he has done up a Youtube poll for 2 weeks, so if anyone has an account there you may like to vote and comment, (please keep in mind though, it is more effective to stay polite, and stick to facts )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Stl7SzqjQWc
This site I mentioned a few pages back when it first started ( https://www.facebook.com/waderobsonsupporters ) . . has turned pretty sour, so I will spare you the details (you may want to avoid reading it if you suffer with blood pressure!) lol
Anyhow he has done up a Youtube poll for 2 weeks, so if anyone has an account there you may like to vote and comment, (please keep in mind though, it is more effective to stay polite, and stick to facts )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Stl7SzqjQWc
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Thanks for posting Miche, but in my opinion, we should probably just ignore them and their little polls. I mean, once they get tired of talking to THEMSELVES, they will get tired and go away.
They're already fighting a losing battle, when they have to BEG FOR SUPPORT. They thought folks would come out in droves in order to support Wade, but that hasn't happened and any attention we bestow on them would probably be greatly appreciated, since nobody else is paying them any attention. LOL!
Thanks for posting Miche, but in my opinion, we should probably just ignore them and their little polls. I mean, once they get tired of talking to THEMSELVES, they will get tired and go away.
They're already fighting a losing battle, when they have to BEG FOR SUPPORT. They thought folks would come out in droves in order to support Wade, but that hasn't happened and any attention we bestow on them would probably be greatly appreciated, since nobody else is paying them any attention. LOL!
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Moot point I guess, and I tend to agree. It is only a poll if you want your vote. . . . No need to engage in anything more than that.
Moot point I guess, and I tend to agree. It is only a poll if you want your vote. . . . No need to engage in anything more than that.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I agree. These haters are a couple of well-known, presistent haters who, quite frankly, look like mental cases who do not have a life. They spam MJ YouTube videos day and night and things like that. It seems like the thing that gives them gratification is to get a rise out of fans. If we give them attention in any way we are only rewarding them - because that's exactly what they are seeking. I have seen the Twitter account of this guy and he has like 14 followers - two of which is Diane Dimond and Chantal Robson. They beg and beg and beg people and even organizations (such as AEG) to follow them and to "like" their pages but mostly they get ignored. I think we too should just ignore them. There will always be haters, you won't be able to change their opinion because that opinion doesn't come from logic.
I agree. These haters are a couple of well-known, presistent haters who, quite frankly, look like mental cases who do not have a life. They spam MJ YouTube videos day and night and things like that. It seems like the thing that gives them gratification is to get a rise out of fans. If we give them attention in any way we are only rewarding them - because that's exactly what they are seeking. I have seen the Twitter account of this guy and he has like 14 followers - two of which is Diane Dimond and Chantal Robson. They beg and beg and beg people and even organizations (such as AEG) to follow them and to "like" their pages but mostly they get ignored. I think we too should just ignore them. There will always be haters, you won't be able to change their opinion because that opinion doesn't come from logic.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I am not going to click, but do victims really advertise their abuse like this? Isn't that a form of going public; I notice his lawyer said he only went on tv to protect himself, but he failed to mention activities on u-tube and facebook.
Then he has a poll, do you mean like do you believe me or not? I don't think fans should be encouraged to go and vote there, because you are simple giving that thing more activity. Adding your choices in a poll shows that a lot of people are interested in what he has to say.
I am not going to click, but do victims really advertise their abuse like this? Isn't that a form of going public; I notice his lawyer said he only went on tv to protect himself, but he failed to mention activities on u-tube and facebook.
Then he has a poll, do you mean like do you believe me or not? I don't think fans should be encouraged to go and vote there, because you are simple giving that thing more activity. Adding your choices in a poll shows that a lot of people are interested in what he has to say.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I don't think these pages are run by Wade. It's a well-known and long time MJ hater. However, like I said, Chantal does follow his Twitter account (she's one of the 14, LOL). She must be desperate if she's happy about the "support" of such a mental case (which isn't really a support for Wade per se, but just another opportunity for him to trash Michael - he couldn't care less about Wade, he's just good for his agenda now).
I don't think these pages are run by Wade. It's a well-known and long time MJ hater. However, like I said, Chantal does follow his Twitter account (she's one of the 14, LOL). She must be desperate if she's happy about the "support" of such a mental case (which isn't really a support for Wade per se, but just another opportunity for him to trash Michael - he couldn't care less about Wade, he's just good for his agenda now).
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P.S. Yeah, I'm also of the belief we shouldn't give them the satisfaction of attention or the validation of their "power" by engaging them all over the internet. I know how aggravating and heartbreaking it is, but heck if I'm "voting" in their video poll. Ugh.
OMG, you weren't kidding about the blood pressure. It never ceases to amaze me that people can go on about how "crazy" fans are for wanting to protect someone they love from false accusations, all the while taking the stance that it's completely NOT "crazy" to organize a vicious slander campaign against someone you've never even spoken to and have no proof against, who's not hurting you or anyone you know or love. Most people would no doubt agree that it's totalllllllly normal to devote hours upon hours of your life to the willful destruction of another human being based solely on hearsay, your personal dislike of him and your own fearful imagination. Loving someone you never met? Hating someone you never met? Here's your mirror...
P.S. Yeah, I'm also of the belief we shouldn't give them the satisfaction of attention or the validation of their "power" by engaging them all over the internet. I know how aggravating and heartbreaking it is, but heck if I'm "voting" in their video poll. Ugh.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
When Tom Barrack of "Colony Capital" saved "Neverland" from the auction block and paid the note, he started fixing up "Neverland" to be able to sell it, with Michael's approval.
Tom Barrack talked about this in an article before Michael Jackson died in June of 2009. One thing Tom Barrack was concerned with was the stigma of the allegations against Michael Jackson in selling "Neverland."
This is in part why Michael Jackson left "Neverland" for good in June of 2005. The purpose of "Neverland" was now gone. It had been crushed out of existence because of the persistence of one District Attorney, Tom Sneddon.
As Michael Jackson traveled the world after the 2005 trial, he stayed here there and everywhere, just not "Neverland." He wanted to buy his children a home of their own, which is why he went back to work. I believe "Neverland" would have been sold and Michael Jackson would have bought a different home. It's the "stigma" that Wade Robson and company are banking on. Who cares if this situation destroys a man's reputation, bring me the money. Whole careers have arisen from these allegations. The more the merrier, so why not campaign and besmirch Michael Jackson, if it can line your pockets!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLT3gncZW2k
When Tom Barrack of "Colony Capital" saved "Neverland" from the auction block and paid the note, he started fixing up "Neverland" to be able to sell it, with Michael's approval.
Tom Barrack talked about this in an article before Michael Jackson died in June of 2009. One thing Tom Barrack was concerned with was the stigma of the allegations against Michael Jackson in selling "Neverland."
This is in part why Michael Jackson left "Neverland" for good in June of 2005. The purpose of "Neverland" was now gone. It had been crushed out of existence because of the persistence of one District Attorney, Tom Sneddon.
As Michael Jackson traveled the world after the 2005 trial, he stayed here there and everywhere, just not "Neverland." He wanted to buy his children a home of their own, which is why he went back to work. I believe "Neverland" would have been sold and Michael Jackson would have bought a different home. It's the "stigma" that Wade Robson and company are banking on. Who cares if this situation destroys a man's reputation, bring me the money. Whole careers have arisen from these allegations. The more the merrier, so why not campaign and besmirch Michael Jackson, if it can line your pockets!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLT3gncZW2k
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Dumb question, but was Wade Robson the kid on the Bad Tour who would come out during Bad in the Bad outfit?
If not, who was that kid? And how/why was he basically touring with MJ for just that brief appearance at every show?
Dumb question, but was Wade Robson the kid on the Bad Tour who would come out during Bad in the Bad outfit?
If not, who was that kid? And how/why was he basically touring with MJ for just that brief appearance at every show?
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Wasnt that jimmy safechuck
Wasnt that jimmy safechuck
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Yeah, I don't think those guys have anything to do with Wade nor do they care, nor do I think Wade has anything to do with them. They're just MJ haters disguised as WR supporters lol.
Yeah, I don't think those guys have anything to do with Wade nor do they care, nor do I think Wade has anything to do with them. They're just MJ haters disguised as WR supporters lol.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I've been hearing a lot of MJ being played on the radio lately, more so than usual. So this false allegation from Robson hasn't effect MJ in anyway. So there's some good news. Today i heard Billie Jean, Another Part Of Me, Beat It, Smooth Criminal, They Don't Care About Us, Dirty Diana, Blame It On The Boogie, Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel and Black Or White, and this is just in one day
I've been hearing a lot of MJ being played on the radio lately, more so than usual. So this false allegation from Robson hasn't effect MJ in anyway. So there's some good news. Today i heard Billie Jean, Another Part Of Me, Beat It, Smooth Criminal, They Don't Care About Us, Dirty Diana, Blame It On The Boogie, Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel and Black Or White, and this is just in one day
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Yeah..., in Slovakia Michael is one of the most played artists, since 2009 more than ever before...
Yeah..., in Slovakia Michael is one of the most played artists, since 2009 more than ever before...