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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

respect77 said:
I don't think it's "typical" from an abuse victim to try to convince others by going on and on about how "typical" he is. It's just a dead givaway that they got their story from books and not real life.
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Exactly. I've never heard an abuse victim be so desperate to convince people that he's behaving just like a real victim would. I guess he's relying on what Michael said: "If you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it". He knows that what he's saying doesn't make any sense to most people, that's why he's pulling the victim card so early and so often.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I can't help but wonder if Wade Robson is claiming that Michael Jackson violated him through sexual deviation, than why would things get so twisted and profane, that Michael Jackson would trust Wade around Prince or Paris or Blanket. Wouldn't Wade do something to violate Michael Jackson's children? This is so morose.

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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

AliCat said:
I can't help but wonder if Wade Robson is claiming that Michael Jackson violated him through sexual deviation, than why would things get so twisted and profane, that Michael Jackson would trust Wade around Prince or Paris or Blanket. Wouldn't Wade do something to violate Michael Jackson's children? This is so morose.
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A better question is why wasn't Wade concerned about the safety of Michael's children if he knew Michael was a pedophile?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

LindavG said:
Exactly. I've never heard an abuse victim be so desperate to convince people that he's behaving just like a real victim would. I guess he's relying on what Michael said: "If you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it". He knows that what he's saying doesn't make any sense to most people, that's why he's pulling the victim card so early and so often.
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Yes. I have to wonder why Wade's lawyers are trying so hard to convince people that his behavior is normal for a "victim". They could have just left Joe alone since they are so confident in the "truthfulness" of Wade's claims. But they felt the need to tell Joe that they would sue if he didn't stop talking. Why should they care what he says anyway if the case is only won in the courtroom and they are as convinced as they say they are that they have an air-tight case? (lol.)
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Whats he gonna sue joe for? all that perfume!! lol
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Howard Weitzman talks about WR's allegations from about 11:30

 
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It's reassuring to hear Mr Weitzman dismiss Wade's claims so clearly. Wade doesn't have a leg to stand on.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'm glad he pointed out how Robsons' allegations are very different to those people's who were just silent about their abuse for years. How WR testified under oath twice and did dozens of interviews and for 20 years he said the opposite as of what he's saying now that money is at stake and Michael can't defend himself.

I'm also glad he pointed out Wade's lie on Today's Show when he said it wasn't about the money - but when you file a civil lawsuit it IS about money.
 
Re: [TMZ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson

qbee said:
I disagree with even going there at this time becuase as you say, we have no idea. So why should we go there. It's Just Speculation. 1000's of performers work with AEG at one time or another. Wade working with AEG at one time is not a red flag IMO. I don't think they are behind HIS f**kery. Wade Owns This. Plus I don't like accusation with no proof. I prefer to concentrate on what we do know, rather then get tangled up in conspiracy theories and speculation. We have enough to handle with the information alone. I care less about speculating what AEG may or may not have done based on a hunch. I know what Wade has done and is doing and I want his ass in a sling.. I don't want to take the focus off Wade .. Its just a distraction to do that IMO. and we could also speculate and form conspiracies theories about your agenda for wanting to take the focus off Wade. Now I'm certainly not accusing you of anything. :better: 'm just trying to make a point about how speculation and conspiracies theories work when you try and tie unrelated things together to form dangerous opinions, and how they can cause undue harm to innocent people. You certainly have a right to your own opinions about AEG though. But I just hate conspiracy theories .. does it show :)
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Agree... Wade is the one who has to answer for this disgusting betrayal! Let's not let him off the hook!
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Mr Weitzman was very eloquent in that discussion was able to put forward a very believable, relatable side of the story that has been often ignored.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

somewhereinthedark said:
Wade is a cowardly punk. I believe he is on drugs. I hope Joe does NOT shut up. Man, I wish it was me, I would give that punk, Wade, a taste of his own medicine and DARE him to sue me. It's ironic that this coward can dish it out; but, HE can't stand the heat.
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Was he not sacked from Britney's tour for failing a drugs test?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The suspense is killing me ...... is Wade going to sue Weitzman ?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I think Robson is talking about how his typical reaction is because he knows people are skeptical about his claims. It's like saying "I know, I know, it's hard to believe but I'm not the only person who has reacted this way."
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

He is the only person who had reacted this way. Most victims who were abused and never say anything don't talk about it at all. Don't praise there abuser and cry like a bitch at there funeral
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I wish interviewers or those defending MJ would quote what Wade said when MJ died, that MJ was "...one of the main reasons I believe in the pure goodness of humankind."

How many victims would ever say that about their abuser? I want Wade so badly to be shown for the malicious charlatan that he is.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

bouee said:
The suspense is killing me ...... is Wade going to sue Weitzman ?
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Haha. I would pay Wade money myself to see him sue Weitzman, Mesereau or Debbie Rowe.

He wouldn't know what abuse was until Debbie had finished with him...
 
I found a couple of very interesting Facebook comments earlier which I feel I should share

They are both from people who have worked with Wade:

Status: "beside i worked with him during 10 months and look a great person, is hard to believe you my friend!!! something is wrong!!!"

Comment:Que coño hace wade? a mi me contó personalmente que toda esa historia era falsa, madre mia, me ha dejao planchado!That pussy does wade? to my told me personally that all that story was false, my mother, me has left ironing! (Translated by Bing)


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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

LindavG said:
It is all they have. I'm sure they're counting on the support of child abuse prevention organisations - which they will no doubt receive because these organisations always side with the "victims", no matter how weak their case is.
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I agree, the child protection industry is powerful and will be prepared to see any behaviour as 'typical'. However since the 80s/90s child hysteria outbreak in usa and uk and the satanic ritual scandals, i do think their sway is less influential and alot of their work has been discredited. I think ordinary people are far more likely to use common sense in determining what they think about claims and not be automatically browbeaten by these 'experts'.

gerryevans said:
How many victims would ever say that about their abuser? I want Wade so badly to be shown for the malicious charlatan that he is.
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I know! Or that mj had an innocence about him and trusted people? I'm sure his lawyer has fervently wished wade had just taken a trappist vow of silence re mj for the past 20 years.

elusive moonwalker said:
Whats he gonna sue joe for? all that perfume!! lol
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I'm sure joe's got some lucrative shares in some happy valley hotel and entertainment complex, vietnam, that he'd be more than willing to offload if he lost his case.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

First he goes after a dead guy, now a man in his eighties?

Is he afraid of breaking a nail or something? What kind of fight is this?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Justthefacts said:
He is the only person who had reacted this way. Most victims who were abused and never say anything don't talk about it at all. Don't praise there abuser and cry like a bitch at there funeral
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Exactly. And they do not hang around him like bubby either.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

LindavG said:
It doesn't matter. You'll find people who claim this behaviour is very typical of abuse victims.
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Sorry but I do not know no one as an ADULT who went to COURT TWICE to defend a person. NONE. I know people have been abused as kids and did not tell; however, those people NEVER had any more dealing with those people who abused sexually. My cousin was abused and never told us until she was 26. It was another cousin who abused her. WHen this cousin who abuse the other cousin came around in later years, the cousin who was abused demeanor would changed and she was not pleasant and she goes somewhere else or outside when the other cousin came around and he later move overseas in the military. Later she told us about him and what he did. Again, she did NOT talk about him. If he was at any family functions when he came home from military, she would find an excuse to leave. It was like you can feel a tension in the room. I just though she just hated him because he was cocky; but no, he sexually abused her twice at the age of 11. Again, THEY DO NOT celebrate or go around praising them and defending on sexual abuse. Wade was CONSTANTLY asked about child abuse so all this "repress memory claim is BS as well. He had no time to repress nothing if anything had happen to him and he sure would NOT be praising, dancing, celebrating a person, even after the person's death who claimed abused him (and look at the kind of statements he made about MJ. ALL GREAT) and he sure would not have went to court to DEFEND a person who he knows is an abuser and know that court was ready to throw the book at MJ with a nasty media waiting to see MJ fall. This why the "typical" behavior does NOT even fit Wade in what people who are really abuse do.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

terrell said:
Sorry but I do not know no one as an ADULT who went to COURT TWICE to defend a person. NONE. I know people have been abused as kids and did not tell; however, those people NEVER had any more dealing with those people who abused sexually.
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EXACTLY!

Same thing goes for him wanting Mike to attend his wedding. I mean, seriously, why would you want to share such a happy occasion with your abuser?

For your abuser to be in your wedding photographs. Photographs that will become keep-sakes for the rest of your life. (I know Mike didn't attend this wedding, but if he had attended, he surely would have been in picture or two. I'm sure Wade was WISHING that Michael had attended his wedding, so that he could brag about it to whom ever would listen to him.)

There are just WAY, WAY too many holes in Wade's story.
 
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Thanks for posting respect77.

You know this is like the 3rd or 4th tweet I have read wherein somebody who worked with Wade, or knows him from the dance world has said something about Wade being "very cocky."

One of the tweets I read also mentioned that Wade felt entitled because he knew Michael Jackson, but that Wade's dance moves had gotten stale, and that he was no Jamie King. Apparently Wade thought he was on Jamie King's level, but those around Wade felt differently and said he was no where near Jamie King's level. (I know that had to hurt - LOL - especially since Jamie King got the Spears gig and the MJ inspired Cirque gigs.)
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

gerryevans said:
I wish interviewers or those defending MJ would quote what Wade said when MJ died, that MJ was "...one of the main reasons I believe in the pure goodness of humankind."

How many victims would ever say that about their abuser? I want Wade so badly to be shown for the malicious charlatan that he is.
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Roger Fieldman did quote Wade.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Big Apple2 said:
EXACTLY!

Same thing goes for him wanting Mike to attend his wedding. I mean, seriously, why would you want to share such a happy occasion with your abuser?

For your abuser to be in your wedding photographs. Photographs that will become keep-sakes for the rest of your life. (I know Mike didn't attend this wedding, but if he had attended, he surely would have been in picture or two. I'm sure Wade was WISHING that Michael had attended his wedding, so that he could brag about it to whom ever would listen to him.)

There are just WAY, WAY too many holes in Wade's story.
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See, you know something I did not know. I often wondered did Wade wanted MJ to his wedding. You just answered that question for me which is even MORE PROOF this guy is full of it. it is sad we live in world where people will use criminal acts to falsely accuse people. This is not limited to MJ and famous folks either. You would be surprise on how many people on average does this kind of mess. We had two girls here falsely accused their step father of sexual abuse because he made them miss a party. He serve 8 months is jail. When he was found not guilty, the girls later admitted they lied; but look at the damage these girls did to their stepfather; and worst, REAL victims will suffer because of folks like these girls and Wade, Jordan, Garvin, etc. Another thing, aLL these people who claim abuse all have the same pattern: they lie; they change their stories,etc. in the case, of MJ, his false accusers try to use lies to get money and get the public support because they know many people react without thinking when it comes to: (1) children; (2) elder; (3) Religion; (4) illness; (5)handicap. This is why conartists use these things. Look at the Garvin and his family in 2005. They use abuse claims and religion. Remember Garvin claimed he wanted to be a priest YET he was a trifling in school with a nasty behavior with MJ staff and even with school officials. Kids who have the desire to be priest and religious at a young age are often very smart in school and do not get in NO TROUBLE of any kind at school or in the community.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

terrell said:
See, you know something I did not know. I often wondered did Wade wanted MJ to his wedding. You just answered that question for me which is even MORE PROOF this guy is full of it.
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Yeah, apparently Michael said "no, he didn't want to create a circus at Wade's wedding," so he declined. He wanted the day to be about Wade and his new bride, and we all know, IF Mike had attended it certainly would have been about him and ONLY him. LOL!

And if I recall correctly, the wedding invitation was PERSONALLY delivered to Michael by either Wade or Wade's mother. I forget which.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Big Apple2 said:
Yeah, apparently Michael said "no, he didn't want to create a circus at Wade's wedding," so he declined. He wanted the day to be about Wade and his new bride, and we all know, IF Mike had attended it certainly would have been about him and ONLY him. LOL!

And if I recall correctly, the wedding invitation was PERSONALLY delivered to Michael by either Wade or Wade's mother. I forget which.
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Thanks for this info.
 
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