Lainy
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Speechless
why speechless?Speechless
The first thing on my mind after reading this post was 'Speechless' song.why speechless?
*sigh*I will try to share and answer some of the questions. Sorry but I read only the last couple of pages. With regards to me I find it challenging sharing on forums discussions mainly because I dont have the skills to better communicate with like emotion faces and the way in which some of you can show direct quotes of each other and things just written in black and white can sometimes be misunderstood. I just hope we can give each other some leeway and benefit of the doubt and understand our diversity. By the way I can't always come on here for a number of reasons, my apt building is old, most times my phone, internet and tv cable don't work due to old wiring and water in the lines...its so frustrating.
Yes I am aware of most things that BEP and Akon etc. have said and most songs that were made on behalf of MJ and her. For now I really should try to just refer to the music artists as the music tribe as for now it still does put them in an awkward situation. And what I mean by that is there is still an ongoing investigation and songs, vids, etc are evidence and the music tribe are in a unique role and positioning. Some things they can't say but with my role and positioning I can fill in the blanks. The other one I mentioned besides Fergie is the little girl in 'This is it' and her name is Jasmin, she is also playing the role of MJ's woman. For many years now members of fan sites have asked me if I am MJ or Latoya and my responses have always been as truthful as can be..some have even kept track of my posts and wonder why is it that I am always right and most times I say stuff that is not even on sites until much later so some are convinced that I am the worlds greatest psychic..lol.. Anyways, yes I am in the know of most things, I have known MJ and her for most of their lives (about 45 years now) and I also know their close friends and some I still keep in touch with. The songs and music vids are the things they went through since they were 7 years old, its the story of their life. That's why 777 is important to them but can't say what the story behind it is right now. If I know something and can share it I do, if I am not sure then I say just that and if I know something but can't say then I say just that, it is what it is. For people that really do know MJ, they also know her. And they also know me, they even know who I am on these sites..so even the enemies check me out on here...so very courageous of me to try to sort them out and speak the truth considering all the conspiracies within conspiracies and killings throughout the years. So for the ones that really do know 'mj and her' its easy to pick out the fakes, the cuckoos, and the conspirators. Some create such havoc on fan sites and they seem to get off on destroying peoples lives..I just wish they would just 'flock off'... Its very important to know why we are on here and what we want to have happen, what are our intentions, what we stand for, who we are. This thread is nothing new fans and others have talked this for over 30 years but this time around this thread has lasted and is the longest thread. So its obviously meaningful and worthwhile!!!
That's why 777 is important to them but can't say what the story behind it is right now.
I am very delighted to be part of this beautiful MJ family. I am new to the forum but have been member with other forums, so I am familiar on how it works in general. I have been reading your comments on this thread and I am amazed on what God is doing to let the world know about his work through Michael Jackson.
People are wondering if Michael's work were spiritual, I am here to confirm that. Also Michael said that himself that he was a channel, that God worked THROUGH HIM. That, he didn't write the songs, he just let God fill in the words, what ever message he wanted to get out to people.
Q: Has it become easier to write songs over time?
A: It's the most effortless thing in the world because you don't do anything. I hate to say it like that, but it's the truth. The heavens drop it right into your lap, in its totality. The real gems come that way. You can sit at the piano and say, "OK, I'm going to write the greatest song ever written," and nothing. But you can be walking down the street or showering or playing and, boom, it hits you in the head. I've written so many like that. I'm playing a pinball machine, and I have to run upstairs and get my little tape recorder and start dictating. I hear everything in its totality, what the strings are going to do, what the bass is going to do, the harpsichord, everything.
Q: Is it difficult translating that sound to tape?
A: That's what's frustrating. In my head, it's completed, but I have to transplant that to tape. It's like (Alfred) Hitchcock said, "The movie's finished." But he still has to start directing it. The song is the same. You see it in its entirety and then you execute it.
Q: Is it your belief that music is a tool for healing?
A: It's a mantra that soothes the soul. It's therapeutic. It's something our body has to have, like food. It's very important to understand the power of music. Whether you're in an elevator or a department store, music affects the way you shop, the way you treat your neighbor.
AllForMJ;3299902 said:Hi MJLoverForEver,
Here are some excerpts from the interview that MJ did with USA Today back in December 2001. Reading this will let you see exactly what MJ said about how the music would come to him and how he feels about music's purpose.
:blink::ermm::scratch:errrmmm.. I'm getting confused by what msfairy is saying..
msfairy, no offense.. but it seems like you want to make a name for yourself in here, by saying that you know her, you know mj and basically everything about his love life... Some of the things you are saying are just "out there"..
Why can't you say it, if you know it, I mean.. why not now? Why even write things, hint them, if you can't say them..
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I think you are wasting our time really.. by making up stories..
I wish you the best,but please stop making up stuff.. it's really annoying...
AllForMJ;1570604 said:I’m basing it on my own observation from being a fan for close to 40 years. I watched him grow up while I myself was growing up. My family have every album from the start of his career. I'm talking about music on vinyl. We never missed him when he was on television—saw all the Variety Shows, TV specials, special television guest appearances. The time that he was a guest on the Dating Game—that many are now watching on YouTube these days—I remember actually seeing it when it aired. When The Wiz originally came out I saw it at a movie theater. A group of teachers took us on a field trip to see it. The night that he first did the moon walk, I was watching Motown 25. Everybody was talking about it at school the next day. And of course I saw all of his videos when they premiered.
I’ve had a chance to see him on stage, as well as off stage. I saw him while he was with his brothers several hours before concert time. They were staying at a hotel where one of my relatives worked. She called me and told me what time they were arriving. I got a chance to go to the concert that night because their road manager gave her a pair of tickets. She gave them to me.
I got a chance to see him in person again when he came back by himself to promote his album. This is when I got a chance to see him using his decoy so he can slip indoors to start his autograph signing session. It almost felt like a magic trick because they do it so quickly. When some of the fans got out of line to run up to the decoy, he was already inside the building.
I’ve had a chance to see him as MJ the superstar, MJ the warm and friendly; MJ the very caring and trusting; and MJ the extremely shy—all in person with my own eyes. I’ve actually heard him speak in that whisper that people write about. He was speaking that way while he was talking to me. I was barely able to hear him.
When you read lyrics where he says he doesn't know what to say, he truly means that. He doesn't know what to say. He will sit in total silence if you don't take the lead and talk to him first.
I’ve been pretty lucky and it's been a pretty amazing ride. I never expected to see him from so many different angles. You'd be surprised to find out how sweet and down to earth he is. He is truly sweet and down to earth. He's very nice.
I was never the type that covered my walls with pictures of him or that bought every magazine that had him on the cover. The only picture I placed on my wall was the one he signed. I didn't even ask him for it. It was just given to me and I've kept it ever since. I haven't read any books about him. Watching him for so long, listening to him over the years and meeting him a few times has given me a good sense of what type of person he is. He's cool.
During the above time period he was always upbeat. It wasn't until his path crossed with the Chandlers that he started slowly slipping into a depression.
The main reason why I've been buying all of his latest music is not just because I love having it, but also because I've been trying to get a feel of when he was starting to bounce back. When you've had a chance to watch him most of his life and listen to him, you can pretty much tell when he's happy and when he's not.
Luckily, he's come out of that depression. He kicked it to the curb.
It just doesn't seem like something he would do. He's never been the type to settle into a routine when it comes to his music. He always switches things up so you don't know what's coming. If he were to keep singing songs that are only about her, it would become repetitive. Plus, it seems like he would move on to other things if he's actually with her. He's never put out a song like "Beautiful Girl." I've never heard him sound like that before. It was so obvious that he was in love when he did it. I'm just happy to see him happy and waiting to see what he'll do next.
One other thing. The way that I found out that he is very spiritual is from feeling his aura for myself. It is very strong. You feel it before you even see him. It's even stronger when you're next to him. Only someone that is very spiritual and in tune will have that, but I've never felt it come from anyone as strongly as it comes from MJ.
Hey Mysterygirl7,
I think everyone in here is opening up their imagination. I'm a bit confused by some recent posts as well but there's no point in getting upset with anyone. Just keep reading and you"ll probably find something you like.
AllforMJ,
Thanks for the interview quotes! Those were nice. Songs do just come to writers and I think that's part of the spiritual side of things. I think that would fit into this thread along the lines of people being meant to be together and certain things being meant to be. What do you think?
Ms Fairy,
Your posts are kinda confusing but if you know what you're saying then write whatever you want if it's meant for someone to understand they will.
MJLoverForver,
You think two birds is about him or that it has a dual meaning, one about him and one for the litd they may or may not have been in his life? I use to think it was about him but like Alll for MJ posted and MJ said God gave him his songs. If God did in fact give him his songs then maybe God gave him his poems also and maybe even MJ did not realize at the time he wrote them what the true depths represented. Maybe that is true for even songs he didn't write. If we know anything about God we know He's pretty spectacular and in being so we can look back at life and a lot of things start to make since when we see His divine orchestration in our lives.
Lainy, Some people think Speechless is about children as he said becase he sees God in children, some think it's about God and some think it's about a lady. I think it's about a lady also so it's nice to know another person shares my view.
I think I won the popcorn fight. What do you ladies think?
Lainy, Some people think Speechless is about children as he said becase he sees God in children, some think it's about God and some think it's about a lady. I think it's about a lady also so it's nice to know another person shares my view.
I think I won the popcorn fight. What do you ladies think?
Courage
It's curious what takes courage and what doesn't. When I step out on stage in front of thousands
of people, I don't feel that I'm being brave. It can take much more courage to express true
feelings to one person. When I think of courage, I think of the Cowardly Lion in The Wizard of
Oz. He was always running away from danger. He often cried and shook with fear. But he was
also sharing his real feelings with those he loved, even though he didn't always like those
feelings.
That takes real courage, the courage to be intimate. Expressing your feelings is not the same as
falling apart in front of someone else -- it's being accepting and true to your heart, whatever it
may say. When you have the courage to be intimate, you know who you are, and you're willing
to let others see that. It's scary, because you feel so vulnerable, so open to rejection. But
without self-acceptance, the other kind of courage, the kind heroes show in movies, seems
hollow. In spite of the risks, the courage to be honest and intimate opens the way to selfdiscovery.
It offers what we all want, the promise of love.
Ash, I can understand. I've been watching this discussion forever. But I can not have words to share.
Sometimes I have great difficulty sharing my gaze. The way I see ..
The words have not been my allies. I have done my solitude of my greatest companion.
:hiya:^^ It is! And hello :hiya: to Ash and to All!
I'm sure we're all reflecting and remembering Ms. Dame Elizabeth Taylor on this day of her transition, as she meant so much to those who our man means so much to, because of her love and friendship with him and strengent support of him during his times of trial.
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because love is the food of life ...
Asking permission to enter the conversation of you .. LOL
Speechless me the impression of the continuation of the poem Courage.
Or the same line of thought.
Hours I think it's about a lady. Other times it is about the same kids. But every time I ask myself. The more I realize the love that I can feel this while listening to music, reading this poem. And it when I question myself on what kind of love he may have been inspired, I feel limiting love.
I mean that even the idealized love, the words of the song would fit. Just as the poem.
Who idealize the encounter with true love (whether with children, family or friends ... this girl LITD) is missing words.
Or will that person to love in (MJ) finding love would be like looking in the mirror? And where would the words then?
I think comparing Speechless and Courage is excellent!!
I don't understand so well what you are saying here...^^^(marked with blue)
Perhaps you can give some more details? It's very interesting, because what Speechless seems to be about is what he is describing in Courage!! Very good observation..:clapping:
*big sigh*
I'm still not believing that Liz is gone forever....
But u see...Elizabeth wasn't not who found him in the dark. So why is she brought up???
But u see...Elizabeth wasn't not who found him in the dark. So why is she brought up???