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Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

Favoritetune said:
Ashtanga, thank you for welcoming me.

I think the songs you all post are really nice and this discussion is beautiful... Very insightful and well thought out views...

Do you think Michael made any posts in here?

How long do you think he has had feelings for this love in the dark girl - if she exists?

If she does exist- what's keeping them apart?
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Dear Favoritetune,

Welcome to the thread...

When someone "lives" in your heart~~~:wub:

"N.O.T.H.I.N.G" or "N.O O.N.E" can or ever will keep them apart..! :punk:



As Always~~~

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MysteriousPhoenix said:
Yes! It's a love story whose time has come ...:kiss:

Ahhh, let's see ... how should I begin?:reading:
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Everyone thanks for the welcoming and replies!

Sdeids that song was incredible. Thank you for posting it!

I don't know how I can contribute to what already consists of such beautiful tapestry of words?

I'm excited for the new album!

I did not get the "this is its are at it" phrase at first but I think I got it! That was cute with the swords.

In the song Don't Walk Away Michael sings "how can I stop losing you"- so it does sound like the song is about someone who has been there before, also Fall Again has the same theme.

If there is a love in the dark girl then how could he "stop losing her?" I'm sure they'd both like to know the answer to that. How about if we answer the question both ways - if he is still here and if he has departed? Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Maybe someone can throw in a third synopsys as well. Maybe he keeps losing her in this life time and has done so in others as well? How is that for startling insights and revelations? Do I still fit in with you guys?
 
Favoritetune said:
In the song Don't Walk Away Michael sings "how can I stop losing you"- so it does sound like the song is about someone who has been there before, also Fall Again has the same theme.

If there is a love in the dark girl then how could he "stop losing her?" I'm sure they'd both like to know the answer to that. How about if we answer the question both ways - if he is still here and if he has departed? Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Maybe someone can throw in a third synopsys as well. Maybe he keeps losing her in this life time and has done so in others as well? How is that for startling insights and revelations? Do I still fit in with you guys?
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Wow! :shock: I see you really took my "startling revelations" offer to heart! lol! Fantastic!:punk:

Well, to tell you the truth, I've never really thought about reincarnation. I guess it would take a real paradigm shift for me to incorporate it into my personal belief system. However ... I have been having an impression that is equally as controversial, I suppose. I have had this impression that Michael was a little more "complex" than we originally thought, and that the person who was actually "laid to rest" that night was "The King of Pop" and not necessarily "Michael." How is that for a third synopsis? *Goodnight, Everybody!* :ph34r:
 
Favoritetune said:
How about if we answer the question both ways - if he is still here and if he has departed? Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Maybe someone can throw in a third synopsys as well. Maybe he keeps losing her in this life time and has done so in others as well? How is that for startling insights and revelations? Do I still fit in with you guys?
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MysteriousPhoenix said:
Wow! :shock: I see you really took my "startling revelations" offer to heart! lol! Fantastic!:punk:

Well, to tell you the truth, I've never really thought about reincarnation. I guess it would take a real paradigm shift for me to incorporate it into my personal belief system. However ... I have been having an impression that is equally as controversial, I suppose. I have had this impression that Michael was a little more "complex" than we originally thought, and that the person who was actually "laid to rest" that night was "The King of Pop" and not necessarily "Michael." How is that for a third synopsis? *Goodnight, Everybody!* :ph34r:
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Favoritetune said:
Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Maybe someone can throw in a third synopsys as well. Maybe he keeps losing her in this life time and has done so in others as well? How is that for startling insights and revelations? Do I still fit in with you guys?
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I do believe in reincarnation and I always did. It is a main part of my own believe system. It fits with me perfectly what you said, but ususally I do not talk about it that much because ppl have different backgrounds and believe in different things. I just want to say that Michael is a very old soul. I am not sure if it does make sense for everybody here.
Welcome to the thread :)
 
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Favoritetune said:
... If there is a love in the dark girl then how could he "stop losing her?" I'm sure they'd both like to know the answer to that.
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Oh, I forgot to add that I think the solution to that problem is divine wisdom and knowledge in regards to how to fight those "dark forces" that keep them apart. I think that is the key that may have been missing all of those "lifetimes." However, I do think IF given a second chance, they would be a lot wiser and knowledgeable this time around.
 
Asedora said:
I do believe in reincarnation and I always did. It is a main part of my own believe system. It fits with me perfectly what you said, but ususally I do not talk about it that much because ppl have different backgrounds and believe in different things. I just want to say that Michael is a very old soul. I am not sure if it does make sense for everybody here.
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I also believe in reincarnation, but you know these things and religion will always be a very polemic subject. :ph34r:

And yes, Michael certainly had many past lives. I think he would accept make a regression to know how it was/who he was in his past lives. Sometimes I wonder about all these things.... in which Michael's thoughts were about it.... I'm sure he must have read about these things at some moment of his life. He always had a open mind.

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Ashtanga said:
I also believe in reincarnation, but you know these things and religion will always be a very polemic subject. :ph34r:

And yes, Michael certainly had many past lives. I think he would accept make a regression to know how it was/who he was in his past lives. Sometimes I wonder about all these things.... in which Michael's thoughts were about it.... I'm sure he must have read about these things at some moment of his life. He always had a open mind.

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Well, one year I have spent in psychic thread .This thread was very important to me and it helped me in many ways to keep an open mind. I love everybody who was there with me. :heart:
During this year after he passed, I was trying to balance my mind and spirit and to learn some new things by reading certain books. I do not want to bring this discussion from psychic thread in here but I have to say that Michael being in spirit contacted some ppl for different reasons and they were very obvious contacts and mind blowing experiences for some. Some ppl do not believe such things and I did not too till it happened to me personally, which proved my believes in reincarnation.

I cannot say for certain how many lives did he have.It could be many or he could just have 2 and the second one was him being Michael Jackson, a King of Pop because he had a mission here and he had to return from immortality to a human body. “Immortality is my game” – the line of his lyrics says from “Dancing the Dream” poem book.
Michael Jackson was a natural born King and always will remain the same because he was chosen to be a King from the beginning imo.

"Playing hide and seek" lyrics line from Dancing the Dream book indicates that he did believe in reincarnation imo.


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Oh, I forgot to add that I think the solution to that problem is divine wisdom and knowledge in regards to how to fight those "dark forces" that keep them apart. I think that is the key that may have been missing all of those "lifetimes." However, I do think IF given a second chance, they would be a lot wiser and knowledgeable this time around.
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I have an answer to this one. Well, in my opinion all what she has to do ( if she does exist) is to start loving him back again as she did before she "walked away" from him and just as much as he did love her trough his lyrics in this life.
He maybe sucrificed himself for that one love trying to get her attention and attracted millions. There is no another key or solution to fight "drak forces" imo. Love is divine wisdom and the answer for everything.
 
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MysteriousPhoenix said:
Wow! :shock: I see you really took my "startling revelations" offer to heart! lol! Fantastic!:punk:

Well, to tell you the truth, I've never really thought about reincarnation. I guess it would take a real paradigm shift for me to incorporate it into my personal belief system. However ... I have been having an impression that is equally as controversial, I suppose. I have had this impression that Michael was a little more "complex" than we originally thought, and that the person who was actually "laid to rest" that night was "The King of Pop" and not necessarily "Michael." How is that for a third synopsis? *Goodnight, Everybody!* :ph34r:
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Originally Posted by Favoritetune
Does anyone here believe in reincarnation? Maybe someone can throw in a third synopsys as well. Maybe he keeps losing her in this life time and has done so in others as well? How is that for startling insights and revelations? Do I still fit in with you guys?
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Given my Christian beliefs I don't believe in reincarnation.
I think the possible connection btw Michael and his girl LITD is something divine. If she exists perhaps he has never met her but in his heart he knew she was real and one day God would provide this meeting. Perhaps a second chance would the key to Michael find his girl LITD. God's very generous He would know put both face to face in right time.

I make it clear that I don't believe STILL in her existence but it's more fun to think that she had existed. I think if she had existed Michael had done everything to be by her side until even the impossible because to tell that something is impossible to him is simply underestimate his ability.

But I still believe one day he'll find his girl LITD somehow she exists in somewhere.

Ah MP I can't waiting for your story. :)
 
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Lainy said:
I think if she had existed Michael had done everything to be by her side until even the impossible because to tell that something is impossible to him is simply underestimate his ability.
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Perfect. :clapping: You read my thoughts.... lol! :wild: I agree 1000% with you. I think the same way as you. -_-

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Lainy said:
But I still believe one day he'll find his girl LITD somehow she exists in somewhere.
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P.S. Lainy the gif of your siggy .... :wild: Michael...... >>>>>>>> :heart: :wub: :girl_in_love:
 
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Ashtanga said:
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Perfect. :clapping: You read my thoughts.... lol! :wild: I agree 1000% with you. I think the same way as you. -_-

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P.S. Lainy the gif of your siggy .... :wild: Michael...... >>>>>>>> :heart: :wub: :girl_in_love:
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Thanks Ash. :) I'm glad you like my siggy. The first time I saw this gif I said, Awww and big sigh. I'm silly I know :doh: :lol:

Michael makes you feeling wish to hug him.:heart:
 
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Lainy said:
Thanks Ash. :) I'm glad you like my siggy. The first time I saw this gif I said, Awww and big sigh. I'm silly I know :doh: :lol: :heart:

Michael makes you feeling wish to hug him.:heart:
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Ok, I'll be quiet. -_-


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Lainy said:
Given my Christian beliefs I don't believe in reincarnation.
I think the possible connection btw Michael and his girl LITD is something divine. If she exists perhaps he has never met her but in his heart he knew she was real and one day God would provide this meeting. Perhaps a second chance would the key to Michael find his girl LITD


But I still believe one day he'll find his girl LITD somehow she exists in somewhere.
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It just means that you do believe in reincarnation? ;)
 
I hope I did not start any trouble by mentioning reincarnation. I don't think people come back as plants, animals or other people until they "get it right" but I do think select people with a mission and purpose do live other lives. Read about John the baptist.

I read some great answers. Love does conquer all. In the songs I asked about what does it seem like he is saying to you guys to this love in the dark girl, if she exists and if the songs are about her?

Be careful with spirit stuff there are a lot more spirits out there than the one you would hope to find. I read about people summoning spirits and think that would be beyond invasive and cruel, can you imagine finally obtaining peace after departing and someone doing a seyance to bring you back? Not only that like I said before there are a lot of other/evil spirits that would love to creep through an open doorway so be careful! I would say steer clear of that stuff but since you don't know me you probably wouldn't listen and even still you may not.
 
I think like a lot of music videos the video puts a twist on the song. The video shows us something we didn't expect to see, gives a message we didn't expect. I think the video for You Are Not Alone shows how intrusive the press was when it came to Michael Jackson's life a bit like the video for Bille Jean. If you look back at that time, Michael and Lisa tried to keep the marriage private but rumors about it meant they had to confirm it three months later. They couldn't get the peace they needed.

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Hi Qeen G! Did I use present tense? Does not look like... Thank you for your response. It is interesting to think about any possibilities regarding Michael and his LITD girl. But my question was a bit different, about Lisa. I mean he asked Lisa to be in that video and she was his wife at that moment but the song does not sound like it is for her. Does it mean that Lisa was not his love at that time and he had that LITD girl in his heart always no matter what? It find it a bit strange that he asked Lisa to be at that video.
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Ashtanga said:
:eek: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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*Singing* "Things that make go hmmmm ...." lol!



Asedora said:
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I have an answer to this one. Well, in my opinion all what she has to do ( if she does exist) is to start loving him back again as she did before she "walked away" from him and just as much as he did love her trough his lyrics in this life.
He maybe sucrificed himself for that one love trying to get her attention and attracted millions. There is no another key or solution to fight "drak forces" imo. Love is divine wisdom and the answer for everything.
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Very profound insight. This could very well be the key. Maybe their thoughts have to be in alignment (if he's still around). I'm curious about the one sentence, "He maybe sacrificed himself for that one love to get her attention and attracted millions." Could you maybe expound on that a little?



Favoritetune said:
I hope I did not start any trouble by mentioning reincarnation. I don't think people come back as plants, animals or other people until they "get it right" but I do think select people with a mission and purpose do live other lives. Read about John the baptist.
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Interesting. I guess there were a lot of interesting things that happened to people in the bible - like Enoch just up and disappearing one day. He didn't die, he was just TAKEN!

I know in the paintings MJ had comissioned, he often portrayed himself as a person from various centuries and what-not.

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Also, I have a question. If someone does experience something like what you wrote above, and they leave this life and are "reincarnated" or something to that effect, would that necessarily happen all in the same lifetime/century? I thought the idea was they would come back in another lifetime/century or whatever - if you believe in that sorta thing. In other words, are you saying they could leave and then turn right around and immediately come back? If so, then what would be the purpose of them leaving in the first place, if they were just gonna turn right around and come back right away?


Favoritetune said:
... In the songs I asked about what does it seem like he is saying to you guys to this love in the dark girl, if she exists and if the songs are about her?
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You mean, "Don't Walk Away" and "Fall Again"? He's asking for a second chance maybe?


Favoritetune said:
Be careful with spirit stuff there are a lot more spirits out there than the one you would hope to find. I read about people summoning spirits and think that would be beyond invasive and cruel, can you imagine finally obtaining peace after departing and someone doing a seyance to bring you back? Not only that like I said before there are a lot of other/evil spirits that would love to creep through an open doorway so be careful! I would say steer clear of that stuff but since you don't know me you probably wouldn't listen and even still you may not.
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I agree! JUST DON'T GO THERE! You don't know what you could be bringing back. I always felt if I "crossed over" I would not want to be brought back. I would be so mad! lol!

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Oh, BTW, I also wanted to thank you, Sdeidjs, for that beautiful song you posted earlier. It was so lovely, no vulgarity or anything, just powerful lyrics about love. So sweet! :)

Also, all this talk about "lifetimes" made me think of this song by N'Sync that I always thought would make a lovely wedding song, especially for a couple that has had to fight a long, hard battle for their love (like MJ and his LITD). In it, they sing the line:

"I've loved you forever, in lifetimes before ..."


 
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Favoritetune said:
Be careful with spirit stuff there are a lot more spirits out there than the one you would hope to find. I read about people summoning spirits and think that would be beyond invasive and cruel, can you imagine finally obtaining peace after departing and someone doing a seyance to bring you back? Not only that like I said before there are a lot of other/evil spirits that would love to creep through an open doorway so be careful! I would say steer clear of that stuff but since you don't know me you probably wouldn't listen and even still you may not.
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The thought of being bright back from the dead does sound scary
 
MysteriousPhoenix said:
*Singing* "Things that make go hmmmm ...." lol!


Very profound insight. This could very well be the key. Maybe their thoughts have to be in alignment (if he's still around). I'm curious about the one sentence, "He maybe sacrificed himself for that one love to get her attention and attracted millions." Could you maybe expound on that a little?
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Well, all I have to say answering to your question is that from my observations, humans sacrifice themselves for love all the time since the beginning of creation. If you have a God given talent, you are in the situation when it is much more difficult to find your soul mate and you do it through your art. This is the only tool you have and you have to be creative, cos nothing else you can do.
Michael is not the first person with the talent who sacrificed himself. There were many other talented ppl in this world who did the same just working on different fields like classical music, poetry, literature.. etc. Ppl without talents sacrifice themselves different way and it has no less value from spiritual point of view imo.. It is a part of our spiritual growth imo.

I believe, God created such rule: if you want a perfect love, you have to sacrifice yourself to get it. There are many examples in human history when ppl even die for love. In Michael’s case I believe all what he did as an artist, he did to find that “divine” love which he probably lost before. I think it is very clear in his lyrics.
And yes, I do believe he attracted millions to find just one, because how else he could find her if God put him in the situation when she was not his next door neighbor? His art at the same time is a great benefit for this world . That's what keep this world alive.:) :heart:


Be careful with spirit stuff there are a lot more spirits out there than the one you would hope to find. I read about people summoning spirits and think that would be beyond invasive and cruel, can you imagine finally obtaining peace after departing and someone doing a seyance to bring you back?
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I would never summon any spirits. My expirience is spontanious and it has nothing to do with me really. If they want they come by themselves. It is also depending of person's abilities, I guess.. It is not easy for spirits to contact a soul in physical body.
Michael’s spirit did force ppl to do some stuff for him cos he left many things unfinished. He was a very active one. But I have to agree some ppl are able to summon spirits which I think is terribly wrong and I am aware of it. We even had an argument about it in psychic thread. I consider myself an expert now after one year of being involved in such strange activities :cheeky:
 
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Fall Again and Don't Walk Away are two songs that seem to be saying he wants to be with someone, have a second chance or whatever but what else is going on in those songs? What is really keeping them apart?

Michael does have some interesting paintings.

I am not sure when people who are selected by God to return for a purpose return. They seem to have been faithful and obedient to Him and their returns were not in any way a form of punishment. I would suspect when God determines the time is right He sends them. I don't think it would be a quick return however as many people think because it would make very little since if you look at how the devil tried to prevent the birth of Moses. They had every child killed from a certain age range since they did not know when he would be born but it was done for that period. They wanted to kill Jesus too, to prevent His mission but both with Jesus and Moses God had other plans. If we look at biblical example though from my research and recollection you would be correct in saying some other century. It would also make since that way.

You Are Not Alone is a video that is different than most. Most vidoes portray the words in the song and would be directed at the person in the vidoe like a movie. YANA does something totally different. Maybe he sung it for his fans and or his love in the dark girl to know that he was till there for them and her. One perplexing thing about the song that seems to make you think it is for someone is the line "how can it be, you're not here with me, every day I sit and ask myself how did love slip away." All of that seems to say the song was not for LMP.

Love. him I think that shot illustrates his loneliness and shows all the more even though these other people are around (including LMP) he still feels lonely.

Asedora are you sure he asked LMP to be in that video? If so it seems he definitely wanted to show the song was not about her and it was not an accidental production.

Lainy I didn't believe in reincarnation the way that so many express it because biblically it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I started to pay attention to some things the Lord was showing me and I looked for other examples and realized there are rare instances when God does bring people into this world again through birth. People often change the bible to suit there needs and through those changes a lot of truths get lost. I had to make a major adjustment in my understanding when God revealed these things to me.

8701girl being brought back by humans does sound scary being brought back by God sounds lovely.

Mysterious Phoenix This I promise You is an amazingly beautiful song! Thank you for sharing it with us!

Asedora when Mysterious Phoenix asked you to expound on your statement I remembered an interview I read recently where they said Michael stated the girls out there were his dates (speaking about fans at his gate) and thought maybe he had hoped some girl he had met and loved would come to his gate. By making that statement he likely did "sacrifice himself" and attracted lots more attention then he already had. Also if he was trying to please her through his music, call her through his songs or whatever then I am sure a lot of girls would have picked up on his messages in hoping they were for them. Is that what you meant? Very insightful!

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Hey Favoritetune and the others here..... Great posts about spirituality, Bible, psychic and other subjects! :clapping: Well, I have nothing to add here about this, you said everything. :cheeky:

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MysteriousPhoenix said:
*Singing* "Things that make go hmmmm ...." lol!
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MysteriousPhoenix said:
"I've loved you forever, in lifetimes before ..."
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Beautiful song! :wub: Thanks for posting! :D



Lainy said:
I know you understand me. :) :fear:
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