Ashtanga, at least you got it!! And I aint the only sick woman in this thread after all!! LOL!! :rofl:
Isn't it SO comforting when someone UNDERSTANDS US!!!! :lol:
...I know that he wrote, sang and recorded love songs for her and maybe even made references to their love in his movie and all, which I think is so beautiful and thoughtful and romantic and she should be grateful for all of that, but I sometimes wonder if she sometimes needs something "real" in her life. Would it be nice to feel real, flesh and blood arms around her? Would it be nice to have someone's moral support, would it be nice to hear a nice, sweet, calming, reasurring voice over the phone sometimes? I guess what I am saying is a real relationship.
What if someone asked her out for a cup of coffee or tea or something and wanted to engage in a real, live conversation. That would be nice, but would she feel she is being unfaithful to MJ's memory? Afterall, he had his loves in the light. He didn't just sit in the dark all of his life being faithful to her. And maybe another guy wouldn't be the spectacular, magnificent MJ, but he would be real ... and he would be "there."
I just bolded a few things here to try and respond to, but let me tell you, all your thoughts here were great. Deep. No wonder Ashtanga had put so many dots after her emoticon for "thinking"!!
Would MJ be understanding about his LITD girl needing to feel "real, flesh and blood arms around her
" and to have
" a
real relationship"?
Remember MP I had told you about the story of the film,
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir? The ghost, the Captain, came to that very place of understanding that she (Mrs. Muir) needed to have "real, flesh and blood arms around her
" and to have
" a
real relationship." Because he loved her and understood, he decided to leave her for good, and while doing so, making sure that she would no longer remember him in any other way than she had simply came up with him through her own imagine. He left her to live a life with love and pain and mistakes and blessings until the day came when she was old and spent, and died peacefully in her arm chair. Then, and only then, he came back, and took her hand, and up out of that chair came the young Mrs. Muir, a ghost now as well, and together they could be now forever. What's important to understand is that the Captain, when he died was older, and therefore, as his ghost, he had a different perspective than a younger man would; not as selfish and more understanding of others' needs.
I'll admit right now to not being the brightest thing to ever fall off a turnip truck. I'm embarrassed to say not all that long ago I was reflecting back over my life and moaning and pouting before God, with the violins playing and the whole bit, feeling sorry for myself, because I was saying to God "How come I went through life with hardly any guys paying attention to me and never having the chance to fall in love?" One day, the Lord brought back a memory to me. I was 24 or 25 years old working in a watch shop, and this young guy came in and asked to look at watch. So I lifted it up out of the display case and onto the counter and I thought he was pretty much focused on that watch...until...he said this... (he was apparently looking at my hand).
"Is that an engagement ring?"
I looked at my ring confused and said,
"Why? Does it look like an engagement ring? It has a sapphire. Don't engagement rings normally have a diamond?"
He said, "You're wearing it on your left hand."
"I always wear rings on my left hand. I like wearing rings on both hands, I always have."
"Aren't you worried that some guy who might want to ask you out will think you're engaged, so they won't?"
This was my honest response, "I just figured that if the guy knows me, he'll know I'm not married."
The guy nodded slowly, like he really didn't think it made that much sense, but he handed me back the watch and said, "thank you"and walked out the door. I had said what I said because I was not one to feel comfortable with some stranger coming up to me out of the blue and hitting on me...I wasn't that kind of girl. I would want to have a pretty good feel for the guy first.
Anyway, like I said, I was never the smartest thing to ever breathe and I continued to wear rings on my left hand...and well...surprise, surprise...not many asked me out, boohoo. Duuuuuuuuh! :smilerolleyes:
I've wondered, when MJ was young, in his twenties and SO focused on his career goals, if he maybe was not so understanding and selfless as that good Captain of Mrs. Muir's? When he one day spotted his LITD girl (if that did actually happen in the 80's and not more recently), he might have been content with her sitting on a self like one of his goals that was not yet time to make happen...because he had soooooo many irons on the fire and was busy, busy, busy becoming a superstar, and was just content and happy knowing there was a girl he loved. As long as he could "watch her" and know she was alive "waiting" for him, he was fine. And so I wonder if he asked God to do something to ensure she would wait for him. Maybe she wasn't as clueless as me to wear a ring on her left hand that kept guys away, but maybe He asked God to do "something" to keep her his and no one elses. Makes me think of how God placed that mark on Cain after Cain was banished, so no one could come near him and harm him. Maybe guys just found themselves not approaching her. Maybe she had a look of "being taken." If this is how MJ was, if he asked God this, and if he wanted his cake and eat it too, was this fair to her? Was he being selfish? Was he treating her like an object, MP? Or a toy? (this is all surmising, of course).
I remember SoS saying it seemed as if MJ had worked out a Masterplan and the LITD girl maybe didn't catch on to it (Just mentioning SoS convicts me and so I'll add that clarifying "if there is a she." lol.) So, we arrive into the late 80's, maybe 1990, and the song
Serious Effect gets written and it suggests while MJ is "watching" her, but still not needing to "get into a relatonship with her (for it isn't
his "timing" yet)...he sees a guy enter the picture. He's not too worried yet cause he has a masterplan that can't be foiled....and then, she...."SHE" inadvertently fouls up the whole plan and disappears on him without him knowing what's happened.
And so we have the song, "Who Is It." Now, MP...
now the script flips...he all along wasn't thinking much about her need to have a real live guy and loving arms around her...she could wait, because he was fine waiting. As long a he had his career goals and her to love, sitting there on the shelf, he was contento, and could wait. Now she's gone. Now he's on the phone with Glenda saying "My brothers all have been married and have had girlfriends. I don't want to die without having experienced that. Others may love me, but I don't love them (meaning romantically, in love) but now I really want that!" Now it's no longer enough for HIM to not feel "real, flesh and blood arms around him
" and to not have a
real relationship"?
She, the LITD girl, apparently went on to live her life, and he went on to live his...with each their share of mistakes, love, hurt, pain, and blessings. And, growth.
Would the Michael that he was when he died, have gone to heaven and said the kinds of things that are in the lyrics of
Heaven Can Wait?
First of all,
that Michael knew and loved God on a deeper and more mature level than ever before, and if he was finally in heaven in God's presence and being so surrounded with God's pure sweet Love for him, he would no way want to return to earth, even to be with "her." No human love can match the Love of God's. Second,
that man, who so recently was putting together a show, was
giving and
otherly, and
supportive, and wanting others to "shine" and be blessed. That same man, now looking down from heaven, would want his LITD girl, to stay open and let God bring her Love. He would think more of her than himself, and want her to move on and Live. He would wish for her true blessings and happiness...and he would do this all out of a selfless and pure heart, like the angel he is. He no longer is coming from that same perspective as that young man in his twenties. God all along taught him many things. And now in heaven, he understands ALL.
Hopefully the LITD girl (if she exists) will stop clutching (if she is, and as we often do) her hand tightly closed around what she believes she needs God to do for her regarding MJ, and instead, will trustingly open her hand so God can put something beautiful in. MJ would want the best for her, and God wants the best for her, too.
Even if MJ was still alive today, I think he would be trusting God for her happiness and wanting whatever is best for her.
