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[aprilshack]

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If this is true, the fans did the dirty work for the Jackson family. Congratulations.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-vogel/exclusive-the-inside-stor_b_781364.html

Maybe something should of been said by Sony on Monday instead of dragging it on then? This item should of been published Monday.

 

[HIStory]

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Dear "fxfan",

1) Teddy Riley has said he believes it's MJ, NOT the opposite which you claim
2) Frank Dileo has NOT made any kind of statement. He actually is the executive producer behind the compilation album "Michael". So what you're saying is nonsense.
3) Sony Music's label Epic Records has released a statement that says it IS Michael.



Your claims have been proven false.

Erm. First try to comprehend what fxfan wrote....

 

[ScrEAm.Jack5on]

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^ It's felt like the twilight zone.

For those who are interested, I spoke with my source on the phone for over 30 minutes tonight regarding this whole mess. This is coming straight from Sony: the vocals are over 50% not MJ's, they did hire an impersonator to run over the majority of MJ's pre-existing vocals and tried to hide it with production.

The remaining Cascio tracks including "Monster" are all in the same boat with some MJ vocals and some imposter vocals. There will be a big meeting tomorrow at Sony where they will discuss the future of this album. More to come...

Smooth Criminal05, do you still stand by this post?

 

[Derek1984]

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The songs should be of Michael's voice only, unless it's a duet. I mean afterall, the album is titled "Michael", right?

 

[Hess]

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246 plays but 2.2 million views - how to understand that ?

 

[GinnyJackson]

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i think i am going to cry...this is insane.

 

[MoeJack]

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246 plays but 2.2 million views - how to understand that ?

Each time it was played on the radio, there were thousands of people listening to it...

 

[kasume]

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This is how I see things: (Lemme copy a text in here that I've also already written on facebook)

Michael's dead, unfortunately. So he can't record anything anymore and he can't record anything the way he would want to record it. That means that we just have to take it as it is fr...om Sony or whoever produces the newer songs that are comin out now after his death. I really don't understand the problem and bad mood of so many fans all around the world...!

So you're saying since Michael is dead, we just have to take his fake voice as it is?????

Michael would slit his wrists before he hires someone else to sing for him!

Michael's music has been degraded!! We LOVE Michael! That's why we are angry.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO FEEL MICHAEL IN HIS SONGS. We don't feel him in breaking news. Heck yeah, we are furious.

Michael would be too from what they did to Breaking News. Actually, if Michael were here and witnessed all this, I don't think anyone world be in a much badder mood than him!

 

[Derek1984]

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MJ's family are the kings of claiming "conspiracies" and "cover ups", etc. They have done this in every situation for as long as I can remember.

The problem here is this: When we heard the song, a seed had already been planted in our heads that said "It could be fake", so our guard was up. We went into this with a tainted perception that songs were fake. Now some have taken it to the extreme claiming every song that isn't signature MJ is fake. It's not fair to do that.

I am sitting on the fence, and have seen valid opinions and facts shared from both sides of the argument. I refuse to jump on a train before I know more information. People are acting out of emotion and not logic and refusing to see the big picture. I can't understand why some fans on this board have this massive conspiracy elaborated in their mind from information that may not be correct. Of course the vocals on BN are not signature MJ, but does that mean they aren't him? Time will tell of course. In my opinion, if let's say "Shout" was the lead single and we were in the same situation...many people would claim it to be a fake because it's not signature MJ music. The seed had been planted before.

People have to take into account that MJ was sampling all the time, doing new genres of music with different voices. He loved altering his voice to seem different. He's said it himself many times. That's why I'm not discounting anything right now. I know his vocals ARE on the Cascio tracks, but it also appears that there is someone else singing in them as well. Hopefully when the estate release a statement they will clear this up.

I'm trying not to let this ruin my excitement. If there's 12 songs and only 3 Cascio... that's not bad. We know MJ did work with Cascio, so it only makes sense that these songs will contain some of his vocals. We have to look at it logically. I'm holding off on any attacks and emotional fits until I see the bigger picture in respect to what is going on.

That's all

You seem to contradict yourself here when you posted this also:


Originally Posted by smooth_criminal05
^ It's felt like the twilight zone.

For those who are interested, I spoke with my source on the phone for over 30 minutes tonight regarding this whole mess. This is coming straight from Sony: the vocals are over 50% not MJ's, they did hire an impersonator to run over the majority of MJ's pre-existing vocals and tried to hide it with production.

The remaining Cascio tracks including "Monster" are all in the same boat with some MJ vocals and some imposter vocals. There will be a big meeting tomorrow at Sony where they will discuss the future of this album. More to come...

 

[amei0688]

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People have to take into account that MJ was sampling all the time, doing new genres of music with different voices. He loved altering his voice to seem different. He's said it himself many times. That's why I'm not discounting anything right now. I know his vocals ARE on the Cascio tracks, but it also appears that there is someone else singing in them as well. Hopefully when the estate release a statement they will clear this up.

That's all

Smooth, didn't you say, you phoned with your source and he/she told you... let me quote you: "the vocals on BN are over 50% not MJ's, they did hire an impersonator to run over the majority of MJ's pre-existing vocals and tried to hide it with production."

So, what about that? Please don't take it personal, I just want to know, what happened to this statement?

To me, reading your recent post, it seems that you don't belive your source then? As you're giving arguments why it still could be Michael... Did you speak to your source again???

Please, don't get me wrong - you can belive what you want, of course! But is there anything you might heard in the meantime from your source, that makes you now belive, it IS Michael?? I'm just wondering.... gosh this is all soooo confusing.

 

[MoeJack]

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Hey, whatever happened to those "Thank" buttons..I really liked those lol :lol:

 

[Derek1984]

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Smooth, didn't you say, you phoned with your source and he/she told you... let me quote you: "the vocals on BN are over 50% not MJ's, they did hire an impersonator to run over the majority of MJ's pre-existing vocals and tried to hide it with production."

So, what about that? Please don't take it personal, I just want to know, what happened to this statement?

To me, reading your recent post, it seems that you don't belive your source then? As you're giving arguments why it still could be Michael... Did you speak to your source again???

Please, don't get me wrong - you can belive what you want, of course! But is there anything you might heard in the meantime from your source, that makes you now belive, it IS Michael?? I'm just wondering.... gosh this is all soooo confusing.

Agree. It's contradictive. He's also stated last week in a chat that 1-2 Jerkins tracks would be on this album. A day or two later Jerkins posted on twitter his work would NOT be on this album.

 

[dangerous dave]

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I can asure you this album would be better if the Will.I.am songs were on this album. Then they wouldn't need to fill the album with fake songs. Even the music doesn't sound like Michael Jackson.

I hope the estate/sony gives us excitement again with their statement. I don't want this nightmare again.

 

[barok232]

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You seem to contradict yourself here when you posted this also:


Originally Posted by smooth_criminal05
^ It's felt like the twilight zone.

For those who are interested, I spoke with my source on the phone for over 30 minutes tonight regarding this whole mess. This is coming straight from Sony: the vocals are over 50% not MJ's, they did hire an impersonator to run over the majority of MJ's pre-existing vocals and tried to hide it with production.

The remaining Cascio tracks including "Monster" are all in the same boat with some MJ vocals and some imposter vocals. There will be a big meeting tomorrow at Sony where they will discuss the future of this album. More to come...

I am waiting for a response to that too Smooth

 

[Sikri06]

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Anyone else who think that the first half of the track, sung by James Porte aka. Bobby Ewing, is a lot similiar to "My Prerogative" by Bobby Brown?

 

[MJStorm]

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The problem here is this: When we heard the song, a seed had already been planted in our heads that said "It could be fake", so our guard was up. We went into this with a tainted perception that songs were fake. Now some have taken it to the extreme claiming every song that isn't signature MJ is fake. It's not fair to do that.

And you're one of those to blame for. Who is the person who said to have a source directly from Sony that have confirmed, without proof, the vocals as fakes? Me? Frank Sinatra? Christ?

Of course, MJ is not singing alone. Probably the others vocalists would receive due credit in the CD.

Now the album is ruined. I hope everyone is happy.

But sorry. The fault is not yours. The fans preferred to believe in a family without credibility and empty words with no proof.

I do not know if the songs are true. But what fans are doing is insane.

 

[aprilshack]

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I can asure you this album would be better if the Will.I.am songs were on this album. Then they wouldn't need to fill the album with fake songs. Even the music doesn't sound like Michael Jackson.

I hope the estate/sony gives us excitement again with their statement. I don't want this nightmare again.

God, i would just love to hear the will.I.am songs!

 

[kasume]

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I can asure you this album would be better if the Will.I.am songs were on this album. Then they wouldn't need to fill the album with fake songs. Even the music doesn't sound like Michael Jackson.

I hope the estate/sony gives us excitement again with their statement. I don't want this nightmare again.

as long as the e$tate/$ony continue to view Michael as nothing but a mere money making machine, and not a human being WITH A VOICE OF HIS OWN, they can kiss my rear end!

"It's all about money. Their intentions are all wrong." - Teddy Riley

 

[dangerous dave]

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I wish Will.i.am came on board for this album, but from what we heard he doesn't want too.

2 bad because THOSE are actually Michael Jackson vocals recorded In 2006-2007
Would be a true gift compared to this BN mess. really.

 

[Lucilla]

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I am waiting for a response to that too Smooth

He already said in another thread he's gonna post when he has some info

 

[smooth_criminal05]

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Because that was just my source's opinion... that's what he has heard. But the only people who know the truth are the Cascio's. That's why I said it's likely that there is another person singing in Breaking News (based on my own ears). There are many people at Sony who believe it's MJ 100% with some supporting vocals from that guy mentioned in the article this morning. Maybe that's the case? I'm just not going to get all worked up until I hear more info.

 

[aprilshack]

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Because that was just my source's opinion... that's what he has heard. But the only people who know the truth are the Cascio's. That's why I said it's likely that there is another person singing in Breaking News (based on my own ears). There are many people at Sony who believe it's MJ 100% with some supporting vocals from that guy mentioned in the article this morning. Maybe that's the case? I'm just not going to get all worked up until I hear more info.

I don't suppose you have any idea when sony are going to move from off their backsides & try & clear this mess up?

 

[MJStorm]

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as long as the e$tate/$ony continue to view Michael as nothing but a mere money making machine, and not a human being WITH A VOICE OF HIS OWN, they can kiss my rear end!

"It's all about money. Their intentions are all wrong." - Teddy Riley

Prove it. Now I want you to prove that vocals are false.

From the start you have flooded here with hate mail to Sony and the Estate. You have stated categorically that the vocals are fake. This is no longer mere opinion.

We are all waiting.

 

[dangerous dave]

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there so many great unreleased songs from Michael but we won't having them for the moment ,just a small portion of it. I mean The invincible outtakes, the demos with RedOne, will i am songs,...

 

[White Shadow]

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I'm not sure I understand the reasoning of people saying Michael doesn't breathe all over his vocals. I was listening to the YRMW acappella and he breathes all over that song.

 

[dangerous dave]

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If sony believes it's Michael, perhaps they should listen to those jason Malachi songs on youtube. same voice. Morons

 

[dangerous dave]

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If the fake tracks are removed. I am buying the Cd 3 times because of the relief

 

[MJStorm]

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Because that was just my source's opinion... that's what he has heard. But the only people who know the truth are the Cascio's. That's why I said it's likely that there is another person singing in Breaking News (based on my own ears). There are many people at Sony who believe it's MJ 100% with some supporting vocals from that guy mentioned in the article this morning. Maybe that's the case? I'm just not going to get all worked up until I hear more info.

You didn't say it was not just an opinion. You made it clear that his source was claiming no doubt that Sony had committed a crime.

I'm shocked.h34r:

You just lost all credibility with me.

 

[barok232]

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Because that was just my source's opinion... that's what he has heard. But the only people who know the truth are the Cascio's. That's why I said it's likely that there is another person singing in Breaking News (based on my own ears). There are many people at Sony who believe it's MJ 100% with some supporting vocals from that guy mentioned in the article this morning. Maybe that's the case? I'm just not going to get all worked up until I hear more info.


^ It's felt like the twilight zone.

For those who are interested, I spoke with my source on the phone for over 30 minutes tonight regarding this whole mess. This is coming straight from Sony: the vocals are over 50% not MJ's, they did hire an impersonator to run over the majority of MJ's pre-existing vocals and tried to hide it with production.

The remaining Cascio tracks including "Monster" are all in the same boat with some MJ vocals and some imposter vocals. There will be a big meeting tomorrow at Sony where they will discuss the future of this album. More to come...

So your source, an inside at Sony, believes (his opinion) that vocals are over 50% not MJ while at the same time he has heard that Sony DID hire an impersonator and tried to hide that with production. Do I understand correctly?

 

[ginvid]

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Dear "fxfan",

1) Teddy Riley has said he believes it's MJ, NOT the opposite which you claim
2) *removed that part because I was talking about John McClain*
3) Sony Music's label Epic Records has released a statement that says it IS Michael.



Your claims have been proven false.

His list was of those who said it was genuinely his voice.