Xscape General Discussion

Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

It is known that Michael recorded short lines in the song .. Not complete
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

It was me. But it was actually a sarcastic reply and not a claim.

Maybe we should be cautious with sarcasm on forums, in written words. It's a little hard to get sometimes.

And there are some people (Sheldon Cooper) who don't get sarcasm in general. So... ;-)
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

About Anka thing.. amazon.fr listed just "Love Never Felt So Good". They didn't even say it is a remix. But obviously they meant that and I think Richard confirmed that is a remix. That is it. There is nowhere, not on amazon, not in Richard's article word duet. So even if LNFSG is the bonus track it will be a remix of new album version (solo), not a duet.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

It is known that Michael recorded short lines in the song .. Not complete
:worried:

How about "Soldier Boy" as a bonus track? I'm just curious what would you think of that.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

How about "Soldier Boy" as a bonus track? I'm just curious what would you think of that.

Just because it's the name I chose? I'm just saying my opinion .. sorry
And to your question: No
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I wonder if mike sings sly's parts.. Sky goes really deep with his voice on the original song it would be interesting to hear him sing in that type of range :)
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I hope they are still undecided on the bonus track, there will be many more releases but I'd rather have an incomplete demo instead of a remix that can just be an iTunes exclusive instead.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Just because it's the name I chose? I'm just saying my opinion .. sorry
And to your question: No

Yes. It is a weird choice for a name if you don't believe in those songs. It was an honest question.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

in the song Hot Fun in the Summertime
There are parts that remind the voice of Michael in JACKSON 5
look at:
0:57-1:01
and 2:00 - 2:04

LOL

 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I hope they are still undecided on the bonus track, there will be many more releases but I'd rather have an incomplete demo instead of a remix that can just be an iTunes exclusive instead.

The album is mastered and probably in print already. They decided on tracklist weeks ago.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

It is known that Michael recorded short lines in the song .. Not complete
:worried:

How about "Soldier Boy" as a bonus track? I'm just curious what would you think of that.

Why would you bother?

I think he can choose his username for whatever reason. And even IF his wish would be 'Soldier Boy' for the bonus track, what would you say or do?
Through him to the lions? If it's his wish, it's his wish. No matter what you or we all think about 'Soldier Boy' & those other songs...
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I think whatever coffre says comes out of his chest :naughty:
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I'd prefer "Soldier's Entrance" :)

Now that's a track I would like to hear (I remember reading people in the "know"/from the studio to be raving about it)
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Now that's a track I would like to hear (I remember reading people in the "know"/from the studio to be raving about it)
yep, it dusts along with "Seduction" & "The Pain" in the vault. Thank you Mr. Ba$hir!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Actually you can't possibly know that. And to have a remix on the same album as the new version and original version is stupid. I always said that remixes should not be released on the albums (just like Bad 25 remixes were). Also don't forget This Is It with 2 versions of This Is It when they could have put orchestra version on CD 2 and have one more song from the movie on CD 1. I think this is possible.

Always There always makes guesses and passes it off as fact/guarantees/promises etc.

But isn't this exactly what they're doing now? Releasing two versions of the same song on one CD? That comparison really isn't fair. And I know the estate aren't the wisest bunch of men, but I can promise that there is no possible way, no matter how one would look at it, that they would release three versions of a song that most fans say shouldn't even be on the album. It's actually quite funny that people believe it so quickly without any doubt.

Also, I consider some of my posts promises because it's simply logical thinking, which some people on here lack severely. Richard LeCocq (to my knowledge) hasn't even said anything about his claim that LNFSG was the bonus track and yet people are still believing it without question. It's beyond ridiculous, and I'll be the first one in this thread when the deluxe track listing is released properly. God knows if I'm wrong (which I'm fairly certain I won't be), I'll admit it to everyone here and be just as angry as everyone else. But if not, I'm just going to laugh because so many believed it so quickly without any precursor.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

But isn't this exactly what they're doing now? Releasing two versions of the same song on one CD? That comparison really isn't fair. And I know the estate aren't the wisest bunch of men, but I can promise that there is no possible way, no matter how one would look at it, that they would release three versions of a song that most fans say shouldn't even be on the album. It's actually quite funny that people believe it so quickly without any doubt.

According to amazon.fr and Richard that is exactly what they are doing now. That's what I said. In my opinion remixes should be released on CD singles or on remix albums and not on the main album (even on Deluxe). I hated Afrojack, Pitbull & Nero remixes on Bad 25 disc 2. Not because they are bad (although some of them are) but because they didn't fit with other songs and instead of those remixes they could have included more demos or previously released Bad era tracks. The same thing is with This Is It being twice on the album but there were only 4 tracks on CD 2 and no CD single. They could have put Threatened or Who Is It or Speechless on CD1 and move orchestra version on CD2 or release it on CD single.

Also they could have longer songs. I wouldn't mind if there is no bonus song at all. I would prefer longer songs and uncut original versions than Love Never Felt So Good (or any other remix) on the main disc.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Also, I consider some of my posts promises because it's simply logical thinking, which some people on here lack severely. Richard LeCocq (to my knowledge) hasn't even said anything about his claim that LNFSG was the bonus track and yet people are still believing it without question. It's beyond ridiculous, and I'll be the first one in this thread when the deluxe track listing is released properly. God knows if I'm wrong (which I'm fairly certain I won't be), I'll admit it to everyone here and be just as angry as everyone else. But if not, I'm just going to laugh because so many believed it so quickly without any precursor.

An educated guess or a logical assumption is one thing. But to PROMISE other users something you have no control over and have absolutely no idea of really? Yo so DANGEROUS, that gurl is so DANGEROUS. You are a girl, right?
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coffre;3989337 said:
Japan will get its (exclusive?) release on 05/21. Maybe Hot Fun is an exclusive content for the Japanese market.
Product Descriptionメディア掲載レビューほか
マイケル・ジャクソンの死後2010年12月にリリースされた『MICHAEL』に続く、3年半振り(20 14年時)の“ニュー・アルバム”。残されたマイケルのマテリアルを、彼の残したガイドラインをもとにティ ンバランドが新たにトラックを追加、ミックスを施し、“Newly Recorded Song”として完成させた作品。 (C)RS
http://www.amazon.co.jp/エ&#1...12515;クソン/dp/B00JEJP5DA/

I don't understand Japanese.


I know a little bit, it roughly says:
With the release of December 2010's "MICHAEL" following Michael Jackson's death, nearly three and a half years later (2014) there is a "new album." Michael left material in which Timbaland has completely mixed as "newly recorded song(s)." (C)RS

Nothing new here.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

According to amazon.fr and Richard that is exactly what they are doing now. That's what I said. In my opinion remixes should be released on CD singles or on remix albums and not on the main album (even on Deluxe). I hated Afrojack, Pitbull & Nero remixes on Bad 25 disc 2. Not because they are bad (although some of them are) but because they didn't fit with other songs and instead of those remixes they could have included more demos or previously released Bad era tracks. The same thing is with This Is It being twice on the album but there were only 4 tracks on CD 2 and no CD single. They could have put Threatened or Who Is It or Speechless on CD1 and move orchestra version on CD2 or release it on CD single.

Also they could have longer songs. I wouldn't mind if there is no bonus song at all. I would prefer longer songs and uncut original versions than Love Never Felt So Good (or any other remix) on the main disc.

The track listing on Amazon.fr is lifted from Richard's website. Word for word. Even the non capitalization. Don't take that to heart.

And seriously? I'm sorry, but this is another case of just not being satisfied. All the songs included on the album are some of the strongest Michael has ever recorded (with the exception being LNFSG). The two unheard songs have seen incredible acclaim. And you're not happy because they didn't choose longer songs? That's sad. I'm sorry, no offense meant in any way.

An educated guess or a logical assumption is one thing. But to PROMISE other users something you have no control over and have absolutely no idea of really? Yo so DANGEROUS, that gurl is so DANGEROUS. You are a girl, right?
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Maybe promise was the wrong choice of words, I'll admit that. But the idea that LNFSG is the bonus track when there are two versions of it already on the album is ludicrous and I refuse to believe it.

Nope, I'm a guy :p
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The track listing on Amazon.fr is lifted from Richard's website. Word for word. Even the non capitalization. Don't take that to heart.

And seriously? I'm sorry, but this is another case of just not being satisfied. All the songs included on the album are some of the strongest Michael has ever recorded (with the exception being LNFSG). The two unheard songs have seen incredible acclaim. And you're not happy because they didn't choose longer songs? That's sad. I'm sorry, no offense meant in any way.

What? You completely misunderstood me. I'm very satisfied with their song choice. I said I would rather have these 8 tracks longer (as JT/Timbaland collaborations were) and original tracks uncut (for example leaked Xscape version) than a remix of a song that is already twice on the album.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I don't agree with the JT song length idea at all. Some of his tracks are like 11 minutes long, they just go on for way too long in my opinion.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

What? You completely misunderstood me. I'm very satisfied with their song choice. I said I would rather have these 8 tracks longer (as JT/Timbaland collaborations were) and original tracks uncut (for example leaked Xscape version) than a remix of a song that is already twice on the album.

Ah, I understand now. Apologies.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I don't agree with the JT song length idea at all. Some of his tracks are like 11 minutes long, they just go on for way too long in my opinion.

Maybe not that long, but longer. If you prolong each song for 30 sec you get 4 minutes = that is how LNFSG remix will take.

We all know that Xscape original version is over 5 minutes long and that the new version is around 4:40. Also I think they will edit the original too. And for what? A remix.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Curently listening to Invincible.

Getting ready for XSCAPE. Imma go through all the albums from OTW to Vince next week.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

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Now would be a good time to release single or something before MJJC turns into war zone :bugeyed

And when they release it then that's why it will turn into a war zone (those who like it vs. those who don't). Same ol', same ol'. :p
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Korlay, it was a sarcastic reply that Coffre made that I found humorous.

It was me. But it was actually a sarcastic reply and not a claim.


Maybe we should be cautious with sarcasm on forums, in written words. It's a little hard to get sometimes.

And there are some people (Sheldon Cooper) who don't get sarcasm in general. So... ;-)

No, we should not. There have been plenty of posts made that others found humorous that I did not and I did not request those members be cautious. I simply move to the next post.

The issue here is some posters, in their extreme quest to remain positive, are posting rather indignant posts without actually reading the posts they are responding to in full or understanding the context of those posts.

Let's respect each other's choices.

Indeed. I have not seen one post that questioned if IvoDT actually cancelled the pre-order, if IvoDT actually had a pre-order (I do not and you can see the response to me that was made in error), or was just venting out of frustration. Better to rush in with condemnation under the guise of positivism.
 
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