Xscape General Discussion

Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I, by no means, intend to be rude. I love having debates with people because, at times, it really does open my eyes. BUT, there are some members here (I won't be a jerk and name them individually) who only post about the album cover and how much they hate it. And it's annoying to be quite honest. It's not just an album cover; it's an entire album. Talk about what songs you're excited for. Talk about what songs you wish were released. Talk about the promotion. Talk about the first single. Anything. Don't focus on the cover and the cover only because it's unnecessary.

It's not an opinion when it's the only thing someone posts about; then, it's simply ruining the fun for everyone else. And I, like others, would rather have these people just stay out of the thread.


I felt very sad to read this. I love to see images of Michael as they show me how other people 'see' him and interpret him. Michael was a visual artist as much as a vocal one, in terms of both dance and film. I haven't heard most of the new music, so I don't know which tracks to be 'excited about'. I have seen the cover, and this thread title seems to allow discussion of that here.

I will say one more thing about the cover before I abandon this thread entirely. It has taken me a week to figure out why (out of all the very many thousands of Michael images I have seen) this one doesn't work for me ( just personal opinion, and I don't expect anyone else to agree with it, any more than I would anticipate that anyone else would agree with my choice of favourite tracks).

I do like some of the work of this particular art director ( eg his MJ magazine images... but I do understand why these were not suitable for the album cover). I also understand that this art director also produced another 11 or so images which were not selected for the album cover. I imagine that as an artist, he created many other versions and interpretations before he put the final dozen ideas forward. (It would be interesting to see these).

My last word is simply that for me personally (unlike this art director's interpretation) Michael is not 'out there somewhere', like a mist in the Universe...but 'in here', in my mind (imagination, thoughts, memory), heart and soul. I'd like to see an artistic interpretation of the 'magic of Michael that moves and inspires people'. I don't know how many more MJ album covers there might be in my lifetime, and I know its a tough brief...but I hope that 'art' rather than 'photography' might be able to achieve it.

Isn't it a 'good' thing that we care about the cover? That there might even be some 'controversy' about it? It may be the first thing that people who don't know any of the music will see (in real-world record stores), and it is meant to attract their attention and interest, in the same way that the Xperia video is meant to. It is meant to 'say' something about Michael to people who might not know his work. It is also a lasting part of his legacy; something that will always be associated with the tracks on the album, and will be interpreted and re-interpreted in fan art and writing.
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

At moment i couldn't guess what the first single will be.

We got so much different clues to that situation:
Timbaland's opinion, Paul Anka's opinion, Joe Vogel's tip that we'll be surprised by the choice, the mystery about the 8th track / Chicago-SWLM...
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

This album is going to be absolutely brilliant. If we don't like the new productions, we can go to what Michael intended originally. Win/Win. Can't wait!!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

This album is going to be absolutely brilliant. If we don't like the new productions, we can go to what Michael intended originally. Win/Win. Can't wait!!

couldn't agree more dam, this release is going to be the best they have done up to now. i truly believe that, it's a bonus for the fans and i'm sure it will sell well when the promotion gets into full gear! album cover is great and i'm very excited to visit HMV on release day! buying two copies of deluxe, keeping one sealed! perfect
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I think we will get more information on Monday already :)
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I think we will get more information on Monday already :)

No one can know when new information will come to light, it's when the online team receive the go-ahead from The Estate executors!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I dislike Timba's production of STTR and i'll never listen to his mix..it's a pain to my ears. MJ's vocals is all over the place it's as if it doesn't fit into the instrumental. It's very messy.
I'll never understand these kinds of statements. All we've heard from STTR are snippets and most of them seem to be different parts of the song (intro + chorus) edited together for dramatic effect. So, after hearing maybe a total 1 minute of edited snippets -- without any context -- from what looks like will be a 5min long remix, you can decide that you will NEVER listen to it? You won't even give the final product a single chance, you'll simple never listen to it? That's a ridiculous standpoint to take and I feel sorry for you if that's really your go-to attitude when it comes to things like this.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The excitement for this is getting stronger by the day

couldn't agree more dam, this release is going to be the best they have done up to now. i truly believe that, it's a bonus for the fans and i'm sure it will sell well when the promotion gets into full gear! album cover is great and i'm very excited to visit HMV on release day! buying two copies of deluxe, keeping one sealed! perfect

Zaak I can tell you at the HMV I work at this is all anybody is gonna hear for the next month
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The excitement for this is getting stronger by the day



Zaak I can tell you at the HMV I work at this is all anybody is gonna hear for the next month

thanks man, we almost have all the details already so i don't know why they're waiting so long. And am i late on this but Xscape cover looks similar to this photo from Ghosts. which i imagine it is from.

http://home.mj-upbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ghosts-michael-jackson-16008708-1280-957.jpg
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Hi Guys.
I have been a member since the very old days 2003 to be exact , plus a fan long b4 that. I am absolutely over joyed with the vibe in the cummunity now, take note Sony and Estate that if you do it right this is what kind of a response you get from the fan community! which in turn = huge sales!=$$$$$$. or (loadsa money!!)

I think the way the estate has made this release as well as LA Reid is just the way Michael would of done it, be it without the flying in of a single to each part of SONY! the huge statue going down the river or being erected in parks etc, but Michael was unique after all.

However one thing that i hope Sony/LaReid and Estate dont do, is half bake this project as in! No short films or teaser for album in Michael style! Look you have the whole world and i do mean the world when i say that talking about this release. Mostly previews from listening parties ( btw very well done doing that , that was also a Michael trait!) but please please Estate/Sony dont screw up on short films, you could do lots with these singles and at least 6 of which we know about cud have fantastic videos. Ok Michael is not with us now, but i feel his spirit with us all in this release!
Estate if you make an amazing array of short films and have Michael dancing in them by some way either CGI or full animation i am sure that you could bring out a making of/collection bluray/dvd to finance this, just as Michael did in Thriller/Ghosts.

You know you have to put effort in to get rewards back, that was evident in what Michael always showed. Short films = effort. Please dont rush releases and make the songs live with each release. You have enough material to let each song become a single on its own.

In reply to some member saying on the release schedule Michael wanted it was to be a new single every month he was doing This Is It! he then would release the album as a whole collection. With obviously unreleased tracks also.

This release could kick the music buisness right up the "well you know"! Now lets all make this so successful and make everyone say that this really is THIS IS IT!

Miss you Mikey!

Terry
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The more i listen to the timbaland STTR the more i love it! Great production. First i was like damn whats that? But now iam crazy for it!

Interesting how the opinion and the ear can change.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I'm hoping the also release it on vinyl too
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I'm hoping the also release it on vinyl too
the deluxe version on vinyl would be pleasure for my ears. first of all the album should get a proper mastering, btw. To me Invincible on vinyl vs. cd was like day & night
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Given that's it's about 5 and half weeks until release date, what do people think the timeline will be for promotion? IE When will we get track list, single, snippets etc.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I can't understand why everyone believes, She Was Lovin' Me (Chicago) is a ballad.
Reading the description I think it sounds more like Dangerous or Give In To Me than a ballad, especially the part where Cory Rooney mentions his Dirty Diana sounding voice.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Given that's it's about 5 and half weeks until release date, what do people think the timeline will be for promotion? IE When will we get track list, single, snippets etc.

tracklist within the next 2 weeks, snippets 2 weeks prior to release & airplay of the entire album (the 8 remixes) a week prior to is release
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

One SONY-AD already has over 1mio Plays on Youtube (incl. Slave to the Rhythm")!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHcVKzQVO4A

Hopefully the good promotion will follow in each country/big cities! (like in Leipzig/Germany)

The Leipzig-billboard was not real. The boyfriend of Anne, initator of the World Cry-Day in Leipzig has created it for her as a April-fool. You can see it also, for ecample no copyrights-indication from Sony on it.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

No short films or teaser for album in Michael style!

What do you mean no short films for album? No videos for album?

I thought they made a great video for one of MJ song (cannot remember what was it, somebody please help!) but they released fan made video which wasn't as great as the one they did, so they can do good videos too.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Great question !
I hope single, next week, track list tomorrow and snippet Friday ...
But I think it'll be Single 2 Weeks from now, track list and snippets a week before release like BAD 25 and Michael.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Michaels short films pushed the bounarys of creativity and technology. The Estate should approach their short films in the same way IMO
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

the deluxe version on vinyl would be pleasure for my ears. first of all the album should get a proper mastering, btw. To me Invincible on vinyl vs. cd was like day & night

True dat
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Promotion doesn't mean tracklisting, promotion means commercials on television.. Newspaper articles, worldwide billboards, Limited edition Magazines, thing's like that! Radio announcements, world premiers..
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I've come across a little section of the fanbase (Mainly on facebook) that plans on "boycotting" the album. If there are anyone in here i am sincerely curious about your decision and contention behind it. Some say it is because Michael would have never authorized this release and it is desecrating his artistry. So that's it? You don't want anymore songs released and just let them all dust in a vault? Besides, do the same people listen to leaks when they leak? Surely Michael would have never approved of that.

The other argument is that they're not buying a album of remixes that lacks Michael's original vision. But there is a 2nd CD with original mixes? I don't understand that reasoning at all.

If anyone feels like that please speak up, i won't castigate you, I just want to hear you out because most of it sounds like oxymoron's.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

You've got a problem if you struggle to get hyped for this! Best release in years!
Not really as there are so many things I'd do different and I'm not pleased with, but I've decided to not bother posting opinions here, because I'd be looked at as the negative guy.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

this is in response to Alwaysthere.
The point is the artwork doesn't look futuristic to me. Sadly, it only looks silly to me. I can acknowledge that the idea of the designer is great but what he presented is totally crap. So just because he added a (stainless steel) ring to it and explained his intention make it futuristic? LOL

Just stop calling it crap. You don't like it. That's it.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

As some of you said earlier both the advertising pic in Leipzig and the T-Shirt are photoshopped.
(just got this information, so sorry for confusion)

But to the Estate: need some ideas ? :)


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