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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
I am Sooooo excited about this album. Can't wait to hear MJs voice on demos again...bet he is gonna sound amazing!!
I am Sooooo excited about this album. Can't wait to hear MJs voice on demos again...bet he is gonna sound amazing!!
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
That's because for the time being I was angry. I did go on to praise the cover at the same time though as well as the promotional effort. And it was a brief period of fury; I'm over it now and I absolutely love every single aspect of it. Several fans, however, still complain about the cover and refuse to acknowledge any other part of the release. It's not censorship if we're simply asking people to be grateful for once rather than find every single negative aspect and focus solely on that.
Not by any means. Bad began with its title track, and Dangerous ended with it.
That's because for the time being I was angry. I did go on to praise the cover at the same time though as well as the promotional effort. And it was a brief period of fury; I'm over it now and I absolutely love every single aspect of it. Several fans, however, still complain about the cover and refuse to acknowledge any other part of the release. It's not censorship if we're simply asking people to be grateful for once rather than find every single negative aspect and focus solely on that.
Not by any means. Bad began with its title track, and Dangerous ended with it.
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
This is a dumb question but will the sales of the standard album and the deluxe be counted together? I remember with Bad 25 things were not counted together or something happened unless I an thinking about something else sorry.
This is a dumb question but will the sales of the standard album and the deluxe be counted together? I remember with Bad 25 things were not counted together or something happened unless I an thinking about something else sorry.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
I don't know exactly how sales are calculated, but my guess is that they will all get counted together- I don't see any reason why they should be separate.
I don't know exactly how sales are calculated, but my guess is that they will all get counted together- I don't see any reason why they should be separate.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
I would love xscape as the first track on the album aswell as the first single.
I think the first single should be something edgy and something people can dance to and because its the title of the album it would do well in promoting the album itself.
the album has now slipped down to #6 on the worldwide itunes album charts. They need to get a single out there SOON!
I would love xscape as the first track on the album aswell as the first single.
I think the first single should be something edgy and something people can dance to and because its the title of the album it would do well in promoting the album itself.
the album has now slipped down to #6 on the worldwide itunes album charts. They need to get a single out there SOON!
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
So to this day has anyone figured out which picture was used for the cover art (at least the upper portion of his face)? I haven't been able to think of or find the original anywhere...
Any good guesses?
So to this day has anyone figured out which picture was used for the cover art (at least the upper portion of his face)? I haven't been able to think of or find the original anywhere...
Any good guesses?
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
The artist said it was a recent picture, so it's probably a unreleased one.
The artist said it was a recent picture, so it's probably a unreleased one.
CrazyVegasMJ
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
Yea I read his interview but I guess ur right, it must be one that's unreleased.. I would think it'd be a professionally shot photo tho, so if it's recent then maybe from some unused This Is It promo photos? Ebony photos?
Yea I read his interview but I guess ur right, it must be one that's unreleased.. I would think it'd be a professionally shot photo tho, so if it's recent then maybe from some unused This Is It promo photos? Ebony photos?
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
Yes, they're counted together. Physical copies are also counted with digital ones.
Yes, they're counted together. Physical copies are also counted with digital ones.
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AlwaysThere, thank you for reading my posts. I do not want to belabor this and please know I am not singling you out personally. In my previous posts, you will see I made two requests because I felt those discussions did not pertain to Xscape. Those discussions happened anyway and I had to make a choice: ignore those posts or respond to the point(s) being made. I only responded to those points because one was erroneous and the other seemed to omit half of a situation and told half of a story. Looking back, I am glad the posts were made so I could offer more information for members who may not have known.
No fandom is the same. The cover is more important to some while the track listing is more important to others. I dare say, some fans have no interest in this product and will not support this product and it has nothing to do with the Estate/Sony. Those views and more are valid and we can only ignore them or respond to the point being made. For me, I do not have as much knowledge about the outtakes so I appreciate and am learning from the discussion here.
With that said: question please: is Billboard the best gauge of success for a cd? I ask because I would like to see this product be as successful as possible. Which would carry more weight success-wise: Itunes, Amazon, or a physical store?
Xscape would not be like Bad25 where it did matter what you purchased (Billboard did separate the two disc version from the three disc version I believe) and from where (where are purchases from MJ.com reflected if at all?). It would not matter if one purchases the standard or deluxe unless it was Itunes, Amazon, or similar outlet, correct? In those outlets, a clear message would be delivered by purchasing the deluxe over the standard, correct?
Apologies, I am trying to find the post about a member’s dream but, I cannot find it! It had a great idea of releasing the name of a track a day and maybe a snippet of that track as well. I like that idea and it reminds me of the idea Michael had. I cannot remember the details correctly but, I beleive he would release singles during TII and then put all of the singles on a cd.
No fandom is the same. The cover is more important to some while the track listing is more important to others. I dare say, some fans have no interest in this product and will not support this product and it has nothing to do with the Estate/Sony. Those views and more are valid and we can only ignore them or respond to the point being made. For me, I do not have as much knowledge about the outtakes so I appreciate and am learning from the discussion here.
With that said: question please: is Billboard the best gauge of success for a cd? I ask because I would like to see this product be as successful as possible. Which would carry more weight success-wise: Itunes, Amazon, or a physical store?
Xscape would not be like Bad25 where it did matter what you purchased (Billboard did separate the two disc version from the three disc version I believe) and from where (where are purchases from MJ.com reflected if at all?). It would not matter if one purchases the standard or deluxe unless it was Itunes, Amazon, or similar outlet, correct? In those outlets, a clear message would be delivered by purchasing the deluxe over the standard, correct?
Apologies, I am trying to find the post about a member’s dream but, I cannot find it! It had a great idea of releasing the name of a track a day and maybe a snippet of that track as well. I like that idea and it reminds me of the idea Michael had. I cannot remember the details correctly but, I beleive he would release singles during TII and then put all of the singles on a cd.
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Billboard did count the box-set from Bad 25 separat from the double-album becaus it had too much diffrent items in it. I hope it isn´t the case with Xscape. The Deluxe has only the demos and a bonus-track more.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
this is in response to Alwaysthere.
The point is the artwork doesn't look futuristic to me. Sadly, it only looks silly to me. I can acknowledge that the idea of the designer is great but what he presented is totally crap. So just because he added a (stainless steel) ring to it and explained his intention make it futuristic? LOL
I did commented on the new songs and I absolutely love the title track Xscape. It sounds like it's better than the original mix. I dislike Timba's production of STTR and i'll never listen to his mix..it's a pain to my ears. MJ's vocals is all over the place it's as if it doesn't fit into the instrumental. It's very messy.
So in conclusion the only thing I like so far is the song Xscape, and the fact that they will include the demo tracks in the Deluxe version.
this is in response to Alwaysthere.
The point is the artwork doesn't look futuristic to me. Sadly, it only looks silly to me. I can acknowledge that the idea of the designer is great but what he presented is totally crap. So just because he added a (stainless steel) ring to it and explained his intention make it futuristic? LOL
I did commented on the new songs and I absolutely love the title track Xscape. It sounds like it's better than the original mix. I dislike Timba's production of STTR and i'll never listen to his mix..it's a pain to my ears. MJ's vocals is all over the place it's as if it doesn't fit into the instrumental. It's very messy.
So in conclusion the only thing I like so far is the song Xscape, and the fact that they will include the demo tracks in the Deluxe version.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
I am looking forward to seeing what promotion the estate will be using for this album, it deserves to do well. I think Xscape (Title track) could be a worldwide smash hit if the single is released soon.
I am looking forward to seeing what promotion the estate will be using for this album, it deserves to do well. I think Xscape (Title track) could be a worldwide smash hit if the single is released soon.
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
I think they will be counted separately. The deluxe version has a 8 or 9 extra tracks and a DVD. So billboard will successfully ruin Michael's chances once again.
By the way what do you think the 2 videos will be? I think an animated video for Xscape song could work. Sort of a modern Speed Demon thing.
I think they will be counted separately. The deluxe version has a 8 or 9 extra tracks and a DVD. So billboard will successfully ruin Michael's chances once again.
By the way what do you think the 2 videos will be? I think an animated video for Xscape song could work. Sort of a modern Speed Demon thing.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
Why an animation? Jermaine would like to be a volunteer:bugeyed
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
Any hints out what the 2 videos are about?
I'm not so sure about that they would be counted as separate.
Wasn't these Bad 25 editions counted as one:
Standard edition - Two disc set (album, bonus tracks disc)[34]
Deluxe edition - Four disc set (standard edition + concert CD + concert DVD + poster + sticker)[35]
and Deluxe collectors edition was separate?
Edited to add, wiki says this:
In the United States, the standard version of Bad 25 is regarded as a re-issue of Bad, but the deluxe edition is counted as a new album.
I don't know I wait until someone who knows these things can confirm whether they are counted together.
Any hints out what the 2 videos are about?
I'm not so sure about that they would be counted as separate.
Wasn't these Bad 25 editions counted as one:
Standard edition - Two disc set (album, bonus tracks disc)[34]
Deluxe edition - Four disc set (standard edition + concert CD + concert DVD + poster + sticker)[35]
and Deluxe collectors edition was separate?
Edited to add, wiki says this:
In the United States, the standard version of Bad 25 is regarded as a re-issue of Bad, but the deluxe edition is counted as a new album.
I don't know
I wait until someone who knows these things can confirm whether they are counted together.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
This is what I believe is the difference.
The Deluxe and standard sales will both be counted as Xscape Sales. This is not an anniversary of any other album
The Bad 25 standard edition was counted as a reissue and counted toward the BAD album sales . While deluxe version were counted as a new album from the original BAD album because of the additional content.
But This album should stands on its own all sales will count. , standard and deluxe ,Vinyl etc, because they are all part of the the original release of Xscape..
I have contacted Mjonlineteam to make certain,
This is what I believe is the difference.
The Deluxe and standard sales will both be counted as Xscape Sales. This is not an anniversary of any other album
The Bad 25 standard edition was counted as a reissue and counted toward the BAD album sales . While deluxe version were counted as a new album from the original BAD album because of the additional content.
But This album should stands on its own all sales will count. , standard and deluxe ,Vinyl etc, because they are all part of the the original release of Xscape..
I have contacted Mjonlineteam to make certain,
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
Totally off topic for a bit and I'm sorry, but I just had to say thank you to Bumper for the laugh.
Totally off topic for a bit and I'm sorry, but I just had to say thank you to Bumper for the laugh.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
Sony needs to make those Xperia promotional videos public instead of private on Youtube. The one video that they made public has almost 1.4 million views while one of the videos that they made private only has 4.000 views.
Given the attention around their new super smartphone alot of people are going to seek knowledge about the phone around the internet, including Youtube, so it does not really make sense to make the videos private.
Sony needs to make those Xperia promotional videos public instead of private on Youtube. The one video that they made public has almost 1.4 million views while one of the videos that they made private only has 4.000 views.
Given the attention around their new super smartphone alot of people are going to seek knowledge about the phone around the internet, including Youtube, so it does not really make sense to make the videos private.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
The leaked version doesn't end abruptly. It goes on for 40 seconds --> Escape (lyrics)
You have probably heard one of the shortened fan-edits and not the full song.
That was yet another photoshop.
The leaked version doesn't end abruptly. It goes on for 40 seconds --> Escape (lyrics)
You have probably heard one of the shortened fan-edits and not the full song.
That was yet another photoshop.
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
i would think, there could be tracklisting on the way.. a month before release day? i would think that's at least partially possible? with previews of the song's, plus additional tracklisting.. that may aid towards sales!
i would think, there could be tracklisting on the way.. a month before release day? i would think that's at least partially possible? with previews of the song's, plus additional tracklisting.. that may aid towards sales!
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.
We have a little over five weeks to go till the release.
And i think 3 "major" things will happen before the release:
- a single release (eventually including a video)
- announcement of the track list
- snippets of the whole album content
My guess is also these things will happen in the order i stated above. With the snippets coming shortly before the release (a week or 10 days before).
I think the next "major" thing (probably the single) won't arrive till another week from now at least.
Maybe two of those occasions will come at the same time: Single & track list, or track list in combination with snippets...
Maybe we'll also get a production video with interviews during the process.
But that's about all they can do, so they'll spread it out over those 5 weeks.
That's why i posted weeks ago, i would have less time between announcement & release. That at least we'd have something new every week until actual release.
Now we've those gaps of waiting in between...
We have a little over five weeks to go till the release.
And i think 3 "major" things will happen before the release:
- a single release (eventually including a video)
- announcement of the track list
- snippets of the whole album content
My guess is also these things will happen in the order i stated above. With the snippets coming shortly before the release (a week or 10 days before).
I think the next "major" thing (probably the single) won't arrive till another week from now at least.
Maybe two of those occasions will come at the same time: Single & track list, or track list in combination with snippets...
Maybe we'll also get a production video with interviews during the process.
But that's about all they can do, so they'll spread it out over those 5 weeks.
That's why i posted weeks ago, i would have less time between announcement & release. That at least we'd have something new every week until actual release.
Now we've those gaps of waiting in between...
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