Xscape chart positions. (incl. singles)

This week Title Artist Peak Last week Total

124
Xscape
Michael Jackson

2 126 21


142
Number Ones
Michael Jackson

13 150 190


153
The Essential Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson

53 153 117


176
Thriller
Michael Jackson

1 160 226
 
Cherrelle @Happychick93 · 3 Std. Vor 3 Stunden

MJ 2014 (U.S.) Sales:

The Essential ~110,000.
Number Ones~ 108,000.
Thriller ~ 102,000.
Xscape~ 432,000
 
Annita;4048813 said:
Cherrelle @Happychick93 · 3 Std. Vor 3 Stunden

MJ 2014 (U.S.) Sales:

The Essential ~110,000.
Number Ones~ 108,000.
Thriller ~ 102,000.
Xscape~ 432,000

Interesting that The Essential sold 110,000 without any promotion.... As for Thriller, it still sells 102,000 after so many years! Wow...
 
Interesting that The Essential sold 110,000 without any promotion.... As for Thriller, it still sells 102,000 after so many years! Wow...

Thriller has sold ~1,038,000 since its last certification (29xPl in Aug 2009 with a shipment at that time of 29,4 million according to Sony).

Thriller should have been certified 30x Platinum by now.
 
Not really a chart position so slightly off topic but the top trending search currently on iTunes UK is Earth Song. I think this is due to a performance of the song by a contestant on X Factor in the UK last night.
 
Annita;4048813 said:
Cherrelle @Happychick93 · 3 Std. Vor 3 Stunden

MJ 2014 (U.S.) Sales:

The Essential ~110,000.
Number Ones~ 108,000.
Thriller ~ 102,000.
Xscape~ 432,000

So more than 750k for these four albums so far this year. 1 million scanned album sales is pretty much guaranteed in the US, by the year's end.
 
So more than 750k for these four albums so far this year. 1 million scanned album sales is pretty much guaranteed in the US, by the year's end.

Great :clapping:

Xscape is doing its job. If posthumous album is good, it might makes people who are unaware of MJ's back catalogue, to buy his other albums, and that I was hoping that Xscape will do.
 
Annita;4048813 said:
Cherrelle @Happychick93 · 3 Std. Vor 3 Stunden

MJ 2014 (U.S.) Sales:

The Essential ~110,000.
Number Ones~ 108,000.
Thriller ~ 102,000.
Xscape~ 432,000

And I'm sure if you add all other albums: Bad, Off The Wall, HIStory, Dangerous, Invincible, BOTDF, MICHAEL, TUC... that would be another 100,000
 
Croatia ARC Top 100

Love Never Felt So Good #62
A Place With No Name #26
There Must Be More To Life Than This #58 ***hot shot debut***

Chart run (LNFSG):
#51 - #15 - #2 - #1 - #1 - #1 - #1 - #1 - #2 - #1 - #2 - #5 - #4 - #7 - #10 - #8 - #6 - #18 - #24 - #50 - #47 - #62

Chart run (APWNN):
#81 - #49 - #32 - #31 - #20 - #23 - #26

Chart run (TMBMTLTT):
#58

http://radio.hrt.hr/emisija/arc-top-40/51/
 
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Billboard Hot 200:

169 (124) Xscape
184 (153) The Essential Michael Jackson
195 (176) Thriller

Bad week for Xscape and all other albums is US. All albums went down and Number Ones left the Hot 200. Another wave of promotion is essential for Xscape to remain on the charts for the holidays.
 
Having catalog albums on the chart is always a good thing, no matter how much it has dropped. MJ consistently has at least two of them in the last few months. The Beatles for example has zero albums on the chart this week. I think you over-dramatize sometimes. I agree though with another wave of promo for Xscape is needed. November would be a perfect time. In my mind Loving You fits the Holiday atmosphere, so I would vote for it to be released.
 
Having catalog albums on the chart is always a good thing, no matter how much it has dropped. MJ consistently has at least two of them in the last few months. The Beatles for example has zero albums on the chart this week. I think you over-dramatize sometimes. I agree though with another wave of promo for Xscape is needed. November would be a perfect time. In my mind Loving You fits the Holiday atmosphere, so I would vote for it to be released.

I'm not saying it's a disaster but in comparison to last few weeks all albums dropped substantially. Xscape 45 positions!!, Essential 31 position, Thriller 19 position and Number Ones is out.
 
I'm not saying it's a disaster but in comparison to last few weeks all albums dropped substantially. Xscape 45 positions!!, Essential 31 position, Thriller 19 position and Number Ones is out.

Everything is relative. You could say that the drops are disappointing, or you can say MJ is one of handful acts with three or more albums on the chart. Contemporary, living acts like 50 Cent Mariah Carey and Jennifer Lopez have long dropped out of the chart with their new albums. Xscape is still there and it might well rise next week, who knows?
 
Everything is relative. You could say that the drops are disappointing, or you can say MJ is one of handful acts with three or more albums on the chart. Contemporary, living acts like 50 Cent Mariah Carey and Jennifer Lopez have long dropped out of the chart with their new albums. Xscape is still there and it might well rise next week, who knows?

Let's hope so.
 
respect77;4048863 said:
Thriller should have been certified 30x Platinum by now.

This is a little bit ott, but I was reading NME post about Bono's apology for album giveaway.
This bolded bit cannot be right?
"Last week it was reported that just five per cent of iTunes subscribers – 26 million people – downloaded the album Apple placed on their customers' devices on September 9. Although the figure is a small percentage of iTunes' 500 million customers, it would still make 'Songs Of Innocence' rank in the Top 40 best-selling albums of all-time, in joint 32nd place alongside Britney Spears' 1999 album '…Baby One More Time'. The best-selling album ever is Michael Jackson's 'Thriller', which has sold an estimated 60 million copies since its release in 1982. Apple vice-President Eddy Cue told Billboard: "To help put this into perspective, prior to this, 14 million customers had purchased U2 music since the iTunes store opened in 2003."
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/u2/80394#gotkB2jrt6EZowLU.99

How could it be in the list best selling albums in they sold none, they gave it away?
Don't get me wrong as U2 is one of my fav bands, but Song of Innocence should not be in any charts or lists.
 
I don't think U2 "sales" count like that (or at least they shouldn't), it's like Xscape was given away with Sony Xperia 2 but nobody ever counted THESE copies. It seems to me people bend the rules for some music acts and for some they don't (MJ and JayZ for example). This U2 album was FORCED on my (everyone's) playlist and I wanted it gone cause it kept playing the songs whenever I had an internet connection even though I never downloaded them from the iCloud. This is simply bullshit. The press release said it's gonna be the "most owned" album ever, how about the most "pushed down your throat" album ever. I'm pissed with this cheap shot. They counted 500m people as "owners" even though less than 5% of them really listened to the album and now it's a record breaking album? Why didn't they count the Xperia copies then?

Edit to add: and why didn't they count the "giveaway"\"on sale" copies from One and\or Immortal?

Or Lady Gaga's 1$ album? It sure is more than 0$
 
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Bubs;4050114 said:
This is a little bit ott, but I was reading NME post about Bono's apology for album giveaway.
This bolded bit cannot be right?
"Last week it was reported that just five per cent of iTunes subscribers – 26 million people – downloaded the album Apple placed on their customers' devices on September 9. Although the figure is a small percentage of iTunes' 500 million customers, it would still make 'Songs Of Innocence' rank in the Top 40 best-selling albums of all-time, in joint 32nd place alongside Britney Spears' 1999 album '…Baby One More Time'. The best-selling album ever is Michael Jackson's 'Thriller', which has sold an estimated 60 million copies since its release in 1982. Apple vice-President Eddy Cue told Billboard: "To help put this into perspective, prior to this, 14 million customers had purchased U2 music since the iTunes store opened in 2003."
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/u2/80394#gotkB2jrt6EZowLU.99

How could it be in the list best selling albums in they sold none, they gave it away?
Don't get me wrong as U2 is one of my fav bands, but Song of Innocence should not be in any charts or lists.


It's PR bull. Albums which are given away for free do not count in official sales. Quite understandably.

Even albums which are given away for an unreasonably cheap price do not count. I think they made some rules regarding that when Lady Gaga sold her album for $0.99 for a week on Amazon or something like that.

So no, the free U2 album is not on the list of the best selling albums of all times. To be there you will actually have to sell that album, not give it away for free. And actually, as InvincibleTal said, it wasn't even like people took it volunratily because it was free. It was basically shoved down on everyone's throats who owned an iPhone. I saw lots of people were pissed off about that. NME is pathetic to compare it to the success of albums which really sold that many copies, but we know NME is biased for certain type of acts and bands.

BTW, it speaks for Thriller's success when even albums those are given away for free cannot get near it.
 
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It's PR bull. Albums which are given away for free do not count in official sales. Quite understandably.

Even albums which are given away for an unreasonably cheap price do not count. I think they made some rules regarding that when Lady Gaga sold her album for $0.99 for a week on Amazon or something like that.

So no, the free U2 album is not on the list of the best selling albums of all times. To be there you will actually have to sell that album, not give it away for free. And actually, as InvincibleTal said, it wasn't even like people took it volunratily because it was free. It was basically shoved down on everyone's throats who owned an iPhone. I saw lots of people were pissed off about that. NME is pathetic to compare it to the success of albums which really sold that many copies, but we know NME is biased for certain type of acts and bands.

BTW, it speaks for Thriller's success when even albums those are given away for free cannot get near it.

You would think that NME being a music magazine, they know that freebies doesn't count as sold albums.

That was funny, even if they give albums for free, it still won't touch Thriller's sales:D
 
^^

U2's decision to allow free downloads of Songs of Innocence was questioned by Buckcherry guitarist Keith Nelson who believed it devalued music. He said, "they've sent a message to everyone that music is free, and that's disturbing. It's easy to do that when you're a multi-millionaire-billionaire and money isn't really something that you worry about, but when you're a working rock 'n' roll band and you count on every dollar, it's disappointing to see someone do that."[SUP][50][/SUP] This sentiment was echoed by the Entertainment Retailers Association, which reported that UK sales of the band's back catalogue were minimal in the week following the album's release. The organisation's chairman Paul Quirk said, "This vindicates our view that giving away hundreds of millions of albums simply devalues music and runs the risk of alienating the 60% of the population who are not customers of iTunes." He added, "Giving away music like this is as damaging to the value of music as piracy".[SUP][51][/SUP] According to Billboard, an anonymous record label executive sceptically wondered if the "giveaway is good for the business."[SUP][48][/SUP]

A number of iTunes customers were unhappy that the album appeared in their music libraries without having the option to opt-out;[SUP][52][/SUP][SUP][53][/SUP][SUP][54][/SUP] for users who had automatic music downloads enabled in iTunes, the album downloaded to their devices automatically.[SUP][55][/SUP][SUP][56][/SUP] Chris Richards of The Washington Post called it "rock-and-roll as dystopian junk mail".[SUP][57][/SUP] Slate said that it was "extremely unsettling" that "consent and interest are no longer a requisite for owning an album, only corporate prerogative".[SUP][58][/SUP] Vijith Assar of Wired said, "The delivery mechanism amounts to nothing more than spam with forced downloads".[SUP][59][/SUP] In response to the criticism, Apple established a dedicated webpage that allowed users to permanently delete the album from their accounts.[SUP][60][/SUP]

And those who were actually willing to pay for it:

Commercial performance

In the US, the album is predicted to debut in the top 10 on the Billboard 200, with sales of up to 25,000.[SUP][81][/SUP] It is also predicted to be the band's lowest charting album in the UK.[SUP][82][/SUP]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_of_Innocence_(album)
 
Good! They clearly wanted to make some sort of PR sensation, the first press release after the release called it "the most owned album in music history" (500m Itunes users who "owned| it) which got me so pissed and I was already upset to find out it on my device (that's why I looked for the press release and instructions to remove it. The latter one only came a month afterwards, though). Now they slightly change the wording but still won't back off from the unjustified titles.

Sad but had MJ pulled this kind of thing, he would have been harshly criticized.
 
Good! They clearly wanted to make some sort of PR sensation, the first press release after the release called it "the most owned album in music history" (500m Itunes users who "owned| it) which got me so pissed and I was already upset to find out it on my device (that's why I looked for the press release and instructions to remove it. The latter one only came a month afterwards, though). Now they slightly change the wording but still won't back off from the unjustified titles.

Sad but had MJ pulled this kind of thing, he would have been harshly criticized.

To be fair U2 were criticized too as you can say in the Wikipedia article. But I wonder if so many people would not have got so pissed that they returned / deleted it and if as a result it had surpassed Thriller would it be now marketed as the best selling album of all times? You can see that magazines like NME act very disingenuously as if it's legitimely on the list of best-selling albums of all time. And they know damn well that is far from the truth. Could be my paranoia but all these premature PR labels "most owned album of all times" etc. make me feel as if there was an intention here to overthrow Thriller somehow. It just went wrong because the aggressive marketing strategy got so many people pissed and call out U2/Apple.
 
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Oh yeah your'e right. I felt the criticism came a bit late (later than I expected), at first the whole deal was hyped by the media, it was the people who stirred the criticism. At least where I live the media was very supportive of this move and they only started to voice the bad comments when all the apologizing started and when Apple finally built that removal tool.

BTW Itunes didn't call it a best seller, it seems to me they tried to make up a record so they could break it, as most "owned" album, which is clearly a bullshit. But I do wonder what would have happened if people weren't that vocal.

Edited to agree with edited post :p

Could be my paranoia but all these premature PR labels "most owned album of all times" etc. make me feel as if there was an intention here to overthrow Thriller somehow. It just went wrong because the aggressive marketing strategy got so many people pissed and call out U2/Apple.

this is EXACTLY how I felt when I first read it, but could be we're both paranoids. :)



Onir, I don't normally watch SP but I'll try just this one lol
 
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I don't think your both being paranoid. I think they'd love to be able to say something topped Thriller (Good luck with that). Same reason why "Prince of Pop" comes up in some articles. Just an attempt to downgrade him in people's minds.
 
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I was one of the 26 million who downloaded that album (solely because it was free.) I have never bought any U2 album and after this shameless, deceitful boasting by the band and Apple, I won't accept their free stuff either. How desperate can you get...
 
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