why is TLC showing this? The Secret Lives of Michael Jackson's Children

Funny how Katherine is doing nothing to stop this, she is their legal guardian she should at least pretend to try to stop this mess. It is her job to fight for them. Why is she doing nothing?! She and her lawyers are always quick to dispute rumors concerning HER. Why can't she step up for those parentless children

i am going to agree with twinklee .if that interview and book thing is true then i have no words .whole family has time to do lot of other stuff but they can't defend their dead brother or his children ,they don't shoot down any rumors regarding these kids .it's just sad.
 
In the Rabbi's book the most positive thing he says is about how great Michael was as a father, he even says that he learnt from Michael, and that Michael made him a better father. So he shouldn't be saying anything horrible in regard to that..

Michael was a good father so they have nothing negative to say.
 
They air those type of shows because they figured that "The Not So Secret Lack of Life of TLC, Its Staff, and Its Viewers" wouldn't get good ratings. =P
 
Funny how Katherine is doing nothing to stop this, she is their legal guardian she should at least pretend to try to stop this mess. It is her job to fight for them. Why is she doing nothing?! She and her lawyers are always quick to dispute rumors concerning HER. Why can't she step up for those parentless children

Can she really stop this though?
 
Can she really stop this though?
Has she even bothered to stop this? Has she even cared enough? She was quick to dispute her useless husbands claims right? How come her lawyers always act quickly to dispute rumors about herself, how come the lawyers are quick to release statements about issues concerning her? This is not something that's been going on since yesterday, it's been happening throughout the last year. She was named legal guardian she should act, even if she just releases a statement expressing her disgust, she should act like a legal guardian Michael's children as opposed to her grown middle aged offspring are children. Stepping up for the kids is her job and no one else's. She is the guardian period.
 
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are the estate aware has anyone emailed branca. and yes they should be attakcing these programes with a statement even if u cant do anything legally.
 
Mark Lester, is DESPICABLE being!!

His ex-wife & mother of his 4 children already EXPOSED him as a money-hungry, leeches, media whore ... but media give attention for her, HELL NO!!!

She says among several others things since early 1980s to 2002 - Liza Minnelli & David Guest wedding - M. Lester had NO contact/friendship with Michael.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/08/16/mark-is-a-fantasist-115875-21599726/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...r-Jackos-children-No-hes-completely-nuts.html

Ps. Jane, ex-Lester looks EXACTLY as Debbie Rowe, their daughters (of Jane & Mark Lester) looks as Jane exactely as Paris looks with her mother. These DESPICABLE criature named M. Lester used the similar between Debbie & Jane for going with his LIES!!

In youtube have SEVERAL interviews in time of marriage of Debbie & MJ with persons of circle of Debbie saying she & Mj did sex for have the kids & STATES that MJ definitely is their BIOLOGICAL father.

Only tabloids readers could believe MJ would ask sperm for friends for have children, it's insanity
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Exactly.
 
Has she even bothered to stop this? Has she even cared enough? She was quick to dispute her useless husbands claims right? How come her lawyers always act quickly to dispute rumors about herself, how come the lawyers are quick to release statements about issues concerning her? This is not something that's been going on since yesterday only, it's been having throughout the last year. She was named legal guardian she should act, even if she just releases a statement expressing her disgust, she should act like a legal guardian Michael's children as opposed to her grown middle aged offspring are children. Stepping up for the kids is her job and no one else's. She is the guardian period.

I agree. So much crap has been said about these poor children in the last year and no one has stepped up to defend them hence why these disgusting rumors will continue because the Jackson's are giving them a free pass to do so.
 
Has she even bothered to stop this? Has she even cared enough? She was quick to dispute her useless husbands claims right? How come her lawyers always act quickly to dispute rumors about herself, how come the lawyers are quick to release statements about issues concerning her? This is not something that's been going on since yesterday only, it's been having throughout the last year. She was named legal guardian she should act, even if she just releases a statement expressing her disgust, she should act like a legal guardian Michael's children as opposed to her grown middle aged offspring are children. Stepping up for the kids is her job and no one else's. She is the guardian period.

I agree with what you're saying. I just thought maybe in this case, she couldn't really do anything. But yeah, there's been so many times when something should've been said in their defense, but nothing was. :(
 
it's on, lester forgot to mention prince was named after michael's grandfather not just because michael felt he was a prince and he said paris was named after michael's favorite city when michael said she got her name because that's where she was conceived.
 
it's on, lester forgot to mention prince was named after michael's grandfather not just because michael felt he was a prince and he said paris was named after michael's favorite city when michael said she got her name because that's where she was conceived.

..and this guy is quoted as his closest friend? LOL.. he needs to do his homework asap.

thanks for the updates nena! :)
 
good news - program is positive (sometimes they debunk media claims) portraying Michael as a good father, the house as a loving environment and normal. children are portrayed intelligent, kind, curious..

but up to this point they haven't mentioned anything that we haven't heard before. so they are not necessarily airing any "secrets"
 
good news - program is positive (sometimes they debunk media claims) portraying Michael as a good father, the house as a loving environment and normal. children are portrayed intelligent, kind, curious..

but up to this point they haven't mentioned anything that we haven't heard before. so they are not necessarily airing any "secrets"

Good to know. Thanks for the update.
 
well paternity claims was unnecessary but still they made a point that he's their father regardless.

surprising was hearing a defense from rabbi shmuley. it kinda goes like this " when you go to a house and see a kid you never ask if that kid is adopted. what made it okay to question Michael? "


Edit: as the program is now over I'll classify it as "not interesting" and nothing "secret" about it.
 
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I saw it, it was pretty positive, some unnecessary/incorrect things (like most TV specials on Michael) but in general, it portrayed Michael in a very positive light I think.

And Ivy I think Shmuley's quote is more "When you go over to someone's house for and you think that someone's kid doesn't look like the parent, you don't ask if the child was adopted or if the parent had an affair. So why does it make it ok to question Michael Jackson?"

As Ivy said it's not really about portraying any sort of secret or hidden life at..It really is more focused on trying to show they had an amazing father and how they are coping without him..
 
The show wasn't bad but it was all unnecessary,they did try to portray michael positively. It focused on him being a good father and that they were a normal family, they showed the clips released last summer of the kids at neverland along with some pics and videos of recent outtings.

The lady from vanity vair..maureen she was kind of rude in the way she spoke about how could michael be a great father if he isolated his kids and etc. They showed a picture paris drew for a friend she made in Ireland. that was cute.

Kai chase spoke about how normal michael was at how, jsut like any other guy and the house was full of love, the kids were sweet. She showed a gift paris made for her. She said paris plays the mom role but she isn't bossy, prince like film and music and blanket is the rock star one.

They made me cry with the news clip from june 25 and paris at the memorial, i try to avoid those.

Lester said he spoke to paris a few days after michael's passing and she was fine and told him not to worry that michael is in a better place with the angels, prince and blanket were more reserved and quiet.


Debbie called NBC a week after michael passed and said she wanted custody, they said she shai they made a deal and michael broke it when he passed.


That maureen lady said she doubts michael is the father of those kids by loooking at them. lester said there is a possibility that he is Paris' biological father. He said he heard the tabloids were going to reveal this so he wanted to be the one to come forward so it would be less sleezy.He says michael was desperate for kids and asked him for sperm. They said klein could be the father of one or two of the kids.
Schmuley and some other people close to michael never asked if he was the father because they felt it was rude and they don't know if he is the biological father. The paternity talk concluded with some physcologist saying that it doesn't matter whether michael is the biological parent because he will always be their father and it won't make any difference to the kids.

Katherine is doing a great job providing love for those kids and the family is protecting them, they are adjusting well. They'll have to grow up with alot of pressure being the kids of Michael Jackson.

Kai chase sees the kids from time to time and they're getting so big.

Al sharpton was on and he said some nice words about michael as a father and katherine.

Michael told frank many times to watch out for his mother and his kids, frank says he's making that a priority.
 
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It was a lame excuse to rehash what we have seen and heard a million times. LESTER HOLT did not have the guts to show his face. He should be quite ashamed to accept his check.

There is nothing positive about exploiting vulnerable kids for cash.!!!
 
I had already seen many of the clips on TV last year. It's possible that everything was a montage of previously shown footage.
 
did you hear what they say about dr.murray he bring MJ Orange Juice every morrowing at 10:00am :yes: i think dr.murray but thing in it :yes: :thinking: :mat: :yes:
 
just watched it. nothing new.... of course they had to show that clip of paris crying at the memorial :cry: .. ahhh.. :(
 
did anybody hear what they say about MJ doctor when he comes at 10:00am to bring him Orange Juice :yes: i think the doctor put thing in that Orange Juice :yes:
 
I wasnt going to watch that show, but i watched it last night. It was NOT bad at all. It was really positive about MJ. Believe me i'm the first to shoot somebody in the face for F$$King with Michael. It wasn't bad though.
 
The show wasn't bad but it was all unnecessary,they did try to portray michael positively. It focused on him being a good father and that they were a normal family, they showed the clips released last summer of the kids at neverland along with some pics and videos of recent outtings.

The lady from vanity vair..maureen she was kind of rude in the way she spoke about how could michael be a great father if he isolated his kids and etc. They showed a picture paris drew for a friend she made in Ireland. that was cute.

Kai chase spoke about how normal michael was at how, jsut like any other guy and the house was full of love, the kids were sweet. She showed a gift paris made for her. She said paris plays the mom role but she isn't bossy, prince like film and music and blanket is the rock star one.

They made me cry with the news clip from june 25 and paris at the memorial, i try to avoid those.

Lester said he spoke to paris a few days after michael's passing and she was fine and told him not to worry that michael is in a better place with the angels, prince and blanket were more reserved and quiet.


Debbie called NBC a week after michael passed and said she wanted custody, they said she shai they made a deal and michael broke it when he passed.


That maureen lady said she doubts michael is the father of those kids by loooking at them. lester said there is a possibility that he is Paris' biological father. He said he heard the tabloids were going to reveal this so he wanted to be the one to come forward so it would be less sleezy.He says michael was desperate for kids and asked him for sperm. They said klein could be the father of one or two of the kids.
Schmuley and some other people close to michael never asked if he was the father because they felt it was rude and they don't know if he is the biological father. The paternity talk concluded with some physcologist saying that it doesn't matter whether michael is the biological parent because he will always be their father and it won't make any difference to the kids.

Katherine is doing a great job providing love for those kids and the family is protecting them, they are adjusting well. They'll have to grow up with alot of pressure being the kids of Michael Jackson.

Kai chase sees the kids from time to time and they're getting so big.

Al sharpton was on and he said some nice words about michael as a father and katherine.

Michael told frank many times to watch out for his mother and his kids, frank says he's making that a priority.

Just because it portrays Michael as a good dad it isn't a good documentary IMO. Public speculations of their biology is never good, nor the single fact is good that they are running such shows about these kids. They just don't respect their privacy and keep on exploiting them!
 
Just because it portrays Michael as a good dad it isn't a good documentary IMO. Public speculations of their biology is never good, nor the single fact is good that they are running such shows about these kids. They just don't respect their privacy and keep on exploiting them!
Exactly. But I'm not surprised to see who here watched this documentary.
 
Haven't watched and not going to download it anywhere.... I don't support all this talk about who the father is.
 
Exactly. But I'm not surprised to see who here watched this documentary.

We watch it because want to sift out the bullshit. This was aired on TLC, a semi popular channel that will have casual or non MJ fans watching this. I'm tired of people getting wrong information because they saw something on TV or read something online. I want to be able to tell people what they saw either correct or incorrect.

When you say "I'm not surprised to see who here watched this documentary", you make it seem like we should feel bad about seeing it. All of us here, want 100% Privacy for his kids, but sadly this world doesn't work that way..and since it doesn't, I will do my best to try to tell people the realities instead of believing made up stories.
 
We watch it because want to sift out the bullshit. This was aired on TLC, a semi popular channel that will have casual or non MJ fans watching this. I'm tired of people getting wrong information because they saw something on TV or read something online. I want to be able to tell people what they saw either correct or incorrect.

When you say "I'm not surprised to see who here watched this documentary", you make it seem like we should feel bad about seeing it. All of us here, want 100% Privacy for his kids, but sadly this world doesn't work that way..and since it doesn't, I will do my best to try to tell people the realities instead of believing made up stories.
My post wasn't directed to you so spare with this. But since you brought it upon yourself to explain why you watched, I'm going to say regardless of what your reasons might have been.. by watching it your supporting these kind of programs. By watching it you give them the ratings and encourage them to continue to air such documentaries, by watching it you make them think you agree with them and their views. By watching it you make them go on with making these questionable documentaries about three minors nobody cares to defend. Not even the person who was named guardian. By watching it you make them think it's ok for them to go and question their biology which it is not. Even if they had said Michael Jackson's the best father to have ever walked on the surface of this earth, it's not a good documentary when they go and question their biology are you able to grasp it?
My post was directed at the poster who said the documentary wasn't bad just b/c they portrayed Michael to be a good father, they did not do any favor upon Michael Jackson by portraying him as a good dad, b/c that is what he was, he was a good father period. How can any fan sit here and state the documentary was good or not bad when the documentary ridicules what was the dearest and most sacred to him? Which are the kids by questioning their biology? Any sane person should have enough common sense to know that -regardless of them portraying Michael in a good light or not- this cannot be a good documentary, that this must be a BAD documentary when it questions his children's f-ing genes!! Period, period no but's ifs and when's about it.
 
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We watch it because want to sift out the bullshit. This was aired on TLC, a semi popular channel that will have casual or non MJ fans watching this. I'm tired of people getting wrong information because they saw something on TV or read something online. I want to be able to tell people what they saw either correct or incorrect.
I don't need to see a program that features minors who did not consent to such a trashy idea with the idea of "secret lives"- the title alone is trash, tabloid.
I also don't need to subject myself to people to Dimond and Nancy Disgrace on an ongoing basis just to be able to tell people- listen, half the stuff you heard about MJ is BS. If somebody tells me that MJ must have been guilty because "he avoided a trial by a payout"-than I'm able to clear that up without having seen and listened to every trashy TV station that pretends not to know how the legal system works.

You don't need to see every piece of garbage under the sun to be able to weed out fact from fiction. I'd go nuts if I were to watch the majority of the TV channels available.

When you say "I'm not surprised to see who here watched this documentary", you make it seem like we should feel bad about seeing it. All of us here, want 100% Privacy for his kids, but sadly this world doesn't work that way..and since it doesn't, I will do my best to try to tell people the realities instead of believing made up stories.

I completely get the need to soak up every bit of Michael there is, I do understand it, believe me.
I do draw the line with his children. Maybe some people might change their tune once they hold their own children in their arms. Do people not realize how anxiety inducing it can be for 12 or 13 year old (whose father was literally tortured and crucified by the media) to know that they are featured on some trashy "documentary" without their consent, having no say over what is being said about them?

If someone (after decades of me, the parent, being hounded and humiliated at every turn by the same media) were to produce a program of MY three children at that age- and then call it "the secret lives"- I'd be beyond livid, Michael would be as well.
Note how they waited almost a year with this garbage idea? They did not dare to air that when he was still alive and not right after he passed, they knew to wait.

Can you imagine what Michael would be thinking and feeling having all these people get on camera and give their "evaluation and judgement" on your parental abilities? Especially coming from bottom feeders like Boteach.
Where was all the praise when he was alive and could have used just a friendly face in the public that didn't bash him nonstop?

Michael Jackson does not need the gratuity and a condescending slap on the back of having been a good father- especially not from people who've proven to be scum, sorry for the harsh words.
He would have needed the support back then, not now.

The media likes to play people. For decades it was lucrative to make Michael Jackson out to be a freak, lunatic and pedo*hile- now they are suddenly realizing, whoopsies, better change our tune, because now it's cool to praise MJ. Now there's money to be made by changing the tune in 180 degrees, fascinating.
I'm not about to forget how the same exact media was killing him, year after year with slander, defamation and character assassination.
Fascinating how the same media was salivating to call MJ child m****** and now they are singing his praise as a father. Disgusting.

I didn't tune in because I do draw the line with his children. I am not about to give my ratings to a channel that at this point produces mainly trash.

I intend to give Michael's children the privacy that people here claim to want to give them- not tuning in is the easiest of exercises.
Don't need to see a channel whose main program idea at this point is to dumb down people- there's no need to see Boteach's condescending "let's play nice now" change of tune to know it's plain wrong. Boteach and company are the last ones I want to hear now that they realized, oops, the winds are shifting, better catch on.

I'm not usually that hardcore on people that used to associate with Michael, because everybody makes mistakes. Everybody. But scum like Lester and Boteach are using children to make PR for themselves yet again. I'm not about to reward Boteach for his breach of trust by watching him on some channel.
 
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