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Memefan said:
Aren't you being a bit dramatic? The topic is "Where can the Jacksons go from here?".

Twinkle's point is appropriate and there is nothing negative in stating the truth.
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Thank you Memefan, I sometimes really don't know whether to laugh or to cry at some comments :rofl:
 
elusive moonwalker said:
yeah they could do shows but selling out stadiums is a ridiculous statement.at the end of the day the bros never toured until now cause it was always about getting mj onboard, he was the draw and the cash cow. but seeing as they dont have that anymore they may get ppl going to see them out of novelty factor and the fact they cant see mj so might aswell try for the next best thing. its like seeing queen without freddie. but even not even as good as that cause at least queen were intact upto freddies death and didnt split 30 agos
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When Jermaine Jackson left the Jackson 5 in 1975 Michael jackson was still in the group. The fanbase reeled and the group took a nose dive. the fact is that all the brothers made up the jacksons and one is missing, so of course the group will suffer. some of you people realy do have serious issues that you need to work on. stop belittling the brothers, you don't need to do that to make Mj bigger. He cannot get any bigger.
 
To be honest, I don't know how far they can really get without Michael.

They'll always be missing something irreplaceable.

Like someone else said. They will continue to do this if they have the passion but if they're looking for more fame and success then I really don't know.

But yeah LOL@ MJ supposedly begging Janet.

Reminds me of Priscilla Presley saying that Michael married Lisa for the "fame" she had.
 
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babykinsilk05 said:
ok, can SOMEBODY...ANYBODY please tell me when MJ ever BEGGED Janet to do Scream. Like... I seriously need some sort of written statement and not some BS hearsay cause you Janet die-hards love bringing that up like it's some sort of validation of Janet's importance or sucess. So please...some solid, credible proof of this "begging" episode would be nice. Please & Thank you!
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MJ asked Janet to collab with him in the RN1814 era and Janet declined. He asked her after while the janet. era was coming to an end. At the time he had child molestations accusations and Janet felt obligated to do it. Asking her to collab more than once is literally begging.
 
babykinsilk05 said:
But, in terms of being a FORCE in the industry again...is it just about over for the older Jacksons (Janet and the brothers)?. I know Janet has some projects coming up as do the brothers but is anybody (outside of the hardcore fans like us) really interested anymore?
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I think Janet will continue to have a successful career, but I don't think she or ANY of the Jackson brothers will be a FORCE anymore in today's market. A force to me meaning having mass appeal, being innovative, unique, being a trendsetter, and generating a lot of interest and buzz.

Even Susan Boyle, who is certainly a phenom, isn't a force to me.

Lady Gaga has the potential. But to be a force, I think you also have to have some longevity, and it's too soon to tell if Lady Gaga or the Taylor Swifts, Adam Lamberts, etc. will be able to carve out a permanent niche to fit that description.

Can the younger generation of Jacksons that are starting to emerge change this? I know a lot of them are planing on coming out with their own music in the years to come but will it be enough to breath new life (and intrest) to the family? can they bring "America's first family of MUSIC" back into the forefront of people's minds, without all the so-called "scandal", the reminders of death (RIP MJ), rumours and such being attached? What do you all think?
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The younger Jacksons may be able to bring the Jackson name to the forefront again. But they may lack the determination and ambition their forebearers had. The younger Jacksons were born into privilege. Their predecessors had to work very hard for it. And MJ was absolutely driven. He was relentless in perfecting his god given talents to not only be the very best, but to be unconditionally acknowledged as such. Plus he passionately loved what he was doing. The younger Jacksons might have a completely different mindset.

But if they can bring to the table the talent, drive and passion their predecessors did, they might become a force. It'd probably be on a smaller scale, because I don't think anyone can be a force on a massive scale anymore.
 
trueiopian said:
MJ asked Janet to collab with him in the RN1814 era and Janet declined. He asked her after while the janet. era was coming to an end. At the time he had child molestations accusations and Janet felt obligated to do it. Asking her to collab more than once is literally begging.
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Again...some credible proof would be nice (like an article or video of Janet saying this) cause your stating this not only as FACT, but as if YOU were personally there. Please & Thank You!
 
babykinsilk05 said:
Again...some credible proof would be nice (like an article or video of Janet saying this) cause your stating this not only as FACT, but as if YOU were personally there. Please & Thank You!
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A source for what? Janet saying MJ asked her?
 
trueiopian said:
MJ asked Janet to collab with him in the RN1814 era and Janet declined. He asked her after while the janet. era was coming to an end. At the time he had child molestations accusations and Janet felt obligated to do it. Asking her to collab more than once is literally begging.
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Janet wanted to establish herself before working with her brother, it's hard enough being his his shadow so once the time was right she agreed and of course she wanted to have his back. i don't think michael had to beg her and i don't think janet felt like she HAD to do it, she wanted to do it.
 
nena said:
Janet wanted to establish herself before working with her brother, it's hard enough being his his shadow so once the time was right she agreed and of course she wanted to have his back. i don't think michael had to beg her and i don't think janet felt like she HAD to do it, she wanted to do it.
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And that's how I remember that story being reported, NOT this "begging" nonsense her die-hards are trying to say it was...Janet said as recently as last September (during her VMA tribute periode) that She came to that project as his little defender, his "baby sister that always had his back", not as some "obligation" and certainly not as some way to "help him get back on the charts".
 
nena said:
Janet wanted to establish herself before working with her brother, it's hard enough being his his shadow so once the time was right she agreed and of course she wanted to have his back. i don't think michael had to beg her and i don't think janet felt like she HAD to do it, she wanted to do it.
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That's how I thought it happened. And it turned out that they collaborated at the right time. Scream was and still is an awesome piece of work.;D
 
The Jacksons still have some sort of a fanbase...

Ever since Michael passed away, many of my Aunts and Uncles who grew up with the J5 have rekindled an interest on them. Most of them are pretty nostalgic now- talking about stories about back in the day (how it was much more simpler and fun in those days).. :lol:

Touring is still possible but not in sold-out stadiums or arenas anymore. It'll be more like an intimate setting with their big hits and the old songs their audience grew up on.

I am not sure a new album will be received well but for their sake, I hope it will....
 
With or without Janet's input, Michael would have had another hit anyway. He simply wanted to work with his obviously very talented little sister, whom he was very close to growing up. I believe that was his true motive. He knew she had IT. He wanted to work with her and create magic, which they did. I remember, at one time, Janet said she would like MJ to return the favor and collaborate on one of her future albums. Unfortunately, that won't happen. I don't believe she agreed to the collaboration out of obligation. I think she would have done it whether or not MJ faced any allegations.

As for Janet, she's had very successful career in her own right. She may not have the sales figures of Michael or Madonna, but she's still up there. She's worked very hard to have that success. All she needs is a hot track to bring her back to the top. I love Make Me. Radio should have played it more. It's a hot dance track. Kudos for charting well on the dance charts. She deserves it.
 
Memefan said:
Aren't you being a bit dramatic? The topic is "Where can the Jacksons go from here?".

Twinkle's point is appropriate and there is nothing negative in stating the truth.

My personal opinion: True, Janet has not been selling much, but I think she can have a great comeback. She needs to stop singing about her tities though. That is so '90's. She needs to come out with meaningful songs.

As for the original questions, after watching last sunday's show....there is nowhere for the Jacksons to go to.
Was I the only one shaking my head last sunday? They were in lockdown to discuss music, but they ended doing absolutely NOTHING. I don't think the brothers (beside Jackie, my fave by the way) know what to do in music anymore. They relied a lot on MJ and now they seem like a deer caught in the headlights.

Jermaine keeps repeating they need a great producer to give them a hit...LOL. Clueless man.

You could have the biggest producer in the record industry right now, and still fall flat. Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis haven't had a hit in ages ANYWAY....What does Jermaine think JJ&TL will do for them, when they, themselves, don't even know which lead to follow.

I think Jackie should go solo. He seems the most artistic one, and he seems to have a better grasp of reality.
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im not being dramatic at all...the janet hate is just clearly evident in some folks blood...its whatever to me..me being in the entertainment industry i've learned to appreciate everyone's talent and success...sorry if you and twinklee and whoever else that goes on a janet vs mj tirad can't do the same :)

carry on peeps
 
nena said:
Janet wanted to establish herself before working with her brother, it's hard enough being his his shadow so once the time was right she agreed and of course she wanted to have his back. i don't think michael had to beg her and i don't think janet felt like she HAD to do it, she wanted to do it.
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That's how Janet explained it herself, she said she thought she was not ready to work with him, but after the Janet album she felt she was already established and that the right time had come.
 
ForeverTheKing said:
im not being dramatic at all...the janet hate is just clearly evident in some folks blood...its whatever to me..me being in the entertainment industry i've learned to appreciate everyone's talent and success...sorry if you and twinklee and whoever else that goes on a janet vs mj tirad can't do the same :)

carry on peeps
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:clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
nena said:
Janet wanted to establish herself before working with her brother, it's hard enough being his his shadow so once the time was right she agreed and of course she wanted to have his back. i don't think michael had to beg her and i don't think janet felt like she HAD to do it, she wanted to do it.
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EXACTLY!

It just suits some Janet fans to run with this falacy that MJ kept begging Janet to do Scream when that was'nt the case at all. We all know why they wanna believe that but whatever.....
 
ForeverTheKing said:
im not being dramatic at all...the janet hate is just clearly evident in some folks blood...its whatever to me..me being in the entertainment industry i've learned to appreciate everyone's talent and success...sorry if you and twinklee and whoever else that goes on a janet vs mj tirad can't do the same :)

carry on peeps
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Or maybe you should take that stick out of you know what.
 
nena said:
i think i remember her saying something along those lines.
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No she didn't. In 2001 (BET), someone asked her if she would do maybe an album with him and she said no, it would be a bit much.
 
OnOurWay said:
No she didn't. In 2001 (BET), someone asked her if she would do maybe an album with him and she said no, it would be a bit much.
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Doing a whole album with any artist would be a bit much...but that wasn't the sentiment expressed by some fans earlier. The idea was that she wanted him to "return the favor" and collaborate with her on a song for a future project of hers.
 
babykinsilk05 said:
Doing a whole album with any artist would be a bit much...but that wasn't the sentiment expressed by some fans earlier. The idea was that she wanted him to "return the favor" and collaborate with her on a song for a future project of hers.
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It wasn't a bit much for Marvin and Diana :lol:

But she said she didn't want to do anything else cuz ppl would draw comparisons and she felt it was best to leave it as is.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrGE7fY6VeU

Also note that she says they haven't spoken about working together again since "Scream". So like I said, there was never any mentioning of Janet wanting to recollaborate.
 
OnOurWay said:
It wasn't a bit much for Marvin and Diana :lol:

But she said she didn't want to do anything else cuz ppl would draw comparisons and she felt it was best to leave it as is.

8:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrGE7fY6VeU

Also note that she says they haven't spoken about working together again since "Scream". So like I said, there was never any mentioning of Janet wanting to recollaborate.
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Who effin' cares?

A collab will never happen anymore... either with Janet or another artist:)cry:) so you peeps (not just you Driver or OnOurWay- u changed ur name :brow:) just stop b*tching and talking about it. Don't you have better things to do? GOSH... :p I hate all this senseless arguments in the community.
 
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I'm just adding... Every time I see you guys (the same people -_-), you're always in some sort of an argument.

Take a break...

Isn't that exhausting?
 
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