When do you think Michael and Lisa last spoke?

[dori727]

Coincidently, after reading this thread, I then watched a new animated comedy series show that is playing on the Nickelodian channel called:
Glenn Martin, DDS

This particular episode I watched originally aired in August 2009 and again recently and I recorded it. As I watched this last night, I could not get my eyes off the magazine he was holding called
"LADIES HOME JOURNAL FOR MEN"

I took snapshots of the video and put them together and posted it here:

http://img246.imageshack.us/i/mjongmdds3.swf/

The writers of this show sure got the date wrong (it was a 2003 magazine found in his dentist office), and obviously they wrote/produced this show long before Michael passed away.

LMFAO this made my day! lol how funny!

 

[elmari]

Wow. . .that's really strange cindyrilla! Maybe some of the animators are fans of MJ/LM?!?! LOL! Hmm. . .Oct 2003, eh. . .

 

[Shamonee]

I would like to thank the moderators for keeping this thread open.

If it gets out of hand then could you LOCK it so that we can still read it?

Thanks for all the posts!

 

[CindyRilla]

You have to be kidding. Riley was 5 years old and ben was barely 2 when Michael and Lisa-Marie got married. Lisa stayed at her house in Beverly Hills while Michael stayed at Neverland. I would love to see pictures of them as a happy family. The pictures don't exist. One of the reasons Lisa divorced Michael was that he was absent for almost 4 months. She had no idea where he was.

He was at Neveland and she was in L.A. with her kids.

When she got a divorce in August of 2006 from Michael, Riley was 7, and Ben was 3. I doubt either one of them really remember him. However, the fact the Riley went to his funeral, maybe she does. But I am sure Ben doesn't.

Just to set this DATE straight, I believe you really meant she filed for divorce in JANUARY of 1996. Snippet of just one article about this out there from JET Magazine from Feb 1996 here

And I really don't think it took over 10 years to finalize the divorce in AUGUST 2006. Even my ugly nasty divorce that was filed in 1985 did not take so long to finalize. It was granted by a judge in July 1986 - a long year after my daughter, my first child was born (yea, I was forced to go through a nasty divorce - no thx to my ex- while I was carrying our child)

Hence why I found the strange magazine dated Oct 2003 that GLENN MARTIN, DDS was holding VERY odd and the date WAAAY OFF (not to mention the title of that magazine!) :wild:

In any case, it is well known that Michael and LMP remained friends after their divorce.
BTW, I remember things as far back as 2 yrs old.. also when I was VERY young when JFK was shot, and RFK and when Martin Luther King was shot - maybe because of how hard it affected my family. (yea I am in my 40's)
I remember when I got my first bike at age 7 like it was yesterday. My daughter (now in her 20's) remembers MANY things when she was 5 years old (some things like watching family videos or seeing family pics triggers her memory). So I am sure LMP's children remember quite a bit when she was married to Michael.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

What the hell @ that Howard Stern interview...i just read it.

Who the hell does he think he is with those questions? Come on now.
And Lisa Marie certainly wasn't incredibly supportive of MJ there...saying things
like 'well you know...whatever' ..

That guy asked some ridiculous things. I don't get something...during Oprah she says she thinks Mike used her...but on her blog after his death she says their marriage was not a sham,not a publicity stunt......wtf?!!!!!!

WHY didn't she go in full defense when that asshole Howard Stern asked about things on his
male parts? Leading to the accusations of course...WHY couldn't she be more in defense for him?

 

[HIStory]

RE Lisa's kids and their relationship to Michael. Riley was asked about Michael in January in an interview she gave. The reporter was trying hard to get her say something negative on Michael by asking "What about all the bad memories with your ex-step-father, Michael Jackson?" To which Riley replied: "No, no, no! Only good memories!"

Riley was also reported to play Michael's music once to her model friends before a show.

She is also good friends with Jackie's son Auggie and she was there not only at the funeral but at the memorial too.

From all these, I think she quite liked Michael.

 

[ItsALLforLOVE]

There are some great finds in this thread. Thank you for posting them!

 

[Shamonee]

^ Is Riley famous? What is she famous in?

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

I can understand Lisa Marie's blog message more and more...she regrets alot of things. I sure hope she does regret all those interviews too....not just one!!!!

Sawyer
Howard stern
Oprah

Where she just let the interviews talk shit on Michael..and she barely said anything in his defense, come on now. Especially Sawyer and Stern were the most ridiculous ones.

 

[HIStory]

^ Is Riley famous? What is she famous in?

She models.

 

[taurusluv]

You have to be kidding. Riley was 5 years old and ben was barely 2 when Michael and Lisa-Marie got married. Lisa stayed at her house in Beverly Hills while Michael stayed at Neverland. I would love to see pictures of them as a happy family. The pictures don't exist. One of the reasons Lisa divorced Michael was that he was absent for almost 4 months. She had no idea where he was.

He was at Neveland and she was in L.A. with her kids.

When she got a divorce in August of 2006 from Michael, Riley was 7, and Ben was 3. I doubt either one of them really remember him. However, the fact the Riley went to his funeral, maybe she does. But I am sure Ben doesn't.

Actually, you are not correct. If you look at their Diane Sawyer interview she clearly states that they stay at her house. Michael has even said in the past, may he rest in peace, that Neverland was like a vacation, that is how he thought of it. He spent months and months away from Neverland so what makes you think he would not stay with his wife and step-children. The kids were there with them at Disney, at the zoo, at the photo shoot with him and her( she had rips at the knee of her jeans) and etc.... They WERE cohabiting. I'm not sure where you get your information but it is not correct.

Also, Lisa said that they had an argument and he left and she did not see him for months and did not know where he was. She even mentioned them watching Alanis Morrisette win the grammy and she told him to come in the room and look at it, him saying "Isn't that your girl" and she was like "yes". They did live together.

 

[CindyRilla]

^ Is Riley famous? What is she famous in?

She not only models but is also an actress:

Lisa Marie Presley's daughter, Riley Keough has turned her talent from modeling to movie star.

"Riley Keough is currently filming a movie called The Runaways with Dakota Fanning and Kristen Stewart ... The movie chronicles THE RUNAWAYS set in 1975 - 1977 about teenage girls who form a girl band. Their manager Kim Fowley launches their career as 'jailbait rock' (as all the girls were 16 or younger) The band ultimately succeeds on their own merits as musicians, becoming the first all-girl rock-band to ever break into the world of arena-filling hard rock acts. The movie is due for release in 2010"


SOURCE

 

[VanX]

I swear she was everything he needed in his life... Her personality - smoker, uncontrollable cussing, not a pushover... What do you think?

I heard we weren't allowed to go into too much detail about his past lovers here, so I'll try not to say TOO much.. but in that Diane Sawyer interview for example, they seemed like complete opposites. They ALWAYS seemed like complete opposites to me. Sure they had many things in common, but we all know that simply having things in common isn't enough to keep a relationship going - there needs to be more. I found their personalities clashed. Lisa is strongwilled but so is Michael. I can see many situations where they both refuse to give in or compromise. I find Lisa a lot more outgoing/harsh (for lack of a better word?) in interviews whereas Mike was generally more sweet and soft. Mike seemed very playful and childlike, Lisa always seemed more serious. Of course lots of times, difference in personality can be great as they compliment each other, but when it came to Lisa and Mike, yeah they LOOKED great together, but I can very much see why it couldn't work out. And I don't think it was just the having kids issue either. If I notice all this just from an outside perspective, I can only imagine what was really going on on the inside!


Oh, and why would he need a smoker and uncontrollable cusser in his life?! haha.

 

[Shamonee]

Oh, and why would he need a smoker and uncontrollable cusser in his life?! haha.

Because as we have all realised now; during his last few years he had too many "yes" people around him. Therefore, having someone like Lisa around as his wife would, imo, have kept him here today. She would have kicked Conrad Murray's ass lol

And also because I just admire her personality haha, she sounds so cool in her Rolling Stones interview, cussing away uncontrollably :lol:

If anyone kind find me a link to that LIFE mag interview that would be awesome!

 

[TurtleDove]

hmm..IMHO I think that Michael and Lisa were perfect together...I think they completed each other. I agree with those of you that has stated that ....Its to bad they divorced because if they would still of been married them Michael would still be here. Lisa would not of let Michael get duped by Murray.

Not only do I believe that MJ would still be alive, I also think the 05 trial would have never happened. Lisa would have seen through the Arviso's BS right from jump and would have kept them away from her family.

I honestly think the last 15 years would have been very different for Mike if they had stayed married.

You have to be kidding. Riley was 5 years old and ben was barely 2 when Michael and Lisa-Marie got married. Lisa stayed at her house in Beverly Hills while Michael stayed at Neverland. I would love to see pictures of them as a happy family. The pictures don't exist. One of the reasons Lisa divorced Michael was that he was absent for almost 4 months. She had no idea where he was.

He was at Neveland and she was in L.A. with her kids.

When she got a divorce in August of 2006 from Michael, Riley was 7, and Ben was 3. I doubt either one of them really remember him. However, the fact the Riley went to his funeral, maybe she does. But I am sure Ben doesn't.

Riley stated in an interview a couple years ago that she does remember him as a stepdad and that she only had fond memories. The interviewer asked her about possible abuse and she said "no, no, no, nothing like that" or something like that. She said she only had good memories.

Ben probably doesn't recall as much but by the time they were divorced he was 5-6 so I'm sure he recalls some things. Plus, I am sure LMP has photos or he's seen photos over the years. Lisa has remained close to the family so it's possible. Even John Branca said that he still has the photo MJ gave him of he and Lisa after they married hung up in his living room.

media presurred her...that's a lame excuse...she was ex-wife for God's sake. That marriage lasted for 2 years, she should've given some respect for her ex-husband and her marriage...
What Lisa done was laughing along with DS.

Lisa was angry with Michael. She wasn't going to defend him! Why can't people see that? She was lashing out at him the only way she felt she could. In a way she did defend him because she could've dogged him out for real and could have lied about the truth of the relationship. But she didn't. She has always said she loved him and what they had was real.

I personally don't have any issues with LMP. Who am I to judge her? I don't understand why so many find that so easy to do, and yet in the same turn, get pissed at people who judge Michael. :clapping: Why is one OK and not the other? As if everything between the two of them was entirely Lisa's fault. I highly doubt that! I'm not gonna bash Michael or point any fingers, because honestly, I don't know the facts--anymore than anyone else does. But what I will say is that a marriage takes two people to work. It's give and take and compromise, and it's lots of freaking hard work (and I've been married for 25 years, so I know a little bit about it!). Just loving each other is not enough to make a marriage work, even for the most average of couples---of which Lisa and Michael were not. They had all sorts of other factors in their lives that most of us have never had to deal with.

I do believe that Lisa loved Michael. I also believe that Michael loved Lisa. That is my personal belief and nothing more. Was she the love of his life? Was everything her fault? Did Michael use her? Did she use him? Did they resolve their differences before he died? Was he a perfect husband? Was she a perfect wife? I don't know. And neither does anyone else except for Lisa and Michael.

No matter what happened, Lisa was an invited guest at Michael's funeral, and she attended to pay her respects and say her goodbyes. Obviously Michael's family thought enough of her and their relationship to make her a part of that very personal occasion.

OMG! THANK YOU. All these self righteous fans really annoy the hell out of me. For once, try to see it from someone else's perspective. . .

If Lisa doesn't deserve forgiveness then neither does LaToya, Jermaine, Joe, etc. People get angry and they say things that aren't always positive or nice. We've all done it and Lisa is no different.

No matter what any fans think the love between them existed and no one will ever be able to take that away from her. I don't care what she has or hasn't said in the past.

Why can't people just give her a break? Michael's gone now but because of Lisa he had the love he was searching for like he talked about in those secret phone calls. Obviously, it was something very powerful for Lisa as well because she wouldn't have ben so angry about it. Can you blame her for being angry or hurt that it didn't work out? She obviously had hoped it would have been much different.

 

[mjjfan4ever]

Whenever I hear/read about Lisa, only thing come to my mind, her interview with Diane Sawyer. Diane asked Lisa 'what you were thinking (marrying to Mike)?' Lisa 'I don't know what I was thinking'....
My question is 'marrying Michael was a sin or crime' ...
I never liked Lisa....

:clapping::clapping:

the DS interview is etched in my memory. DS kept asking.... Lisa kept saying and squirming as if SHE DID REALLY DO SOMETHING WRONG. give me a break. now because she was invited to the burial and she was crying I am to feel sorry for her?

I feel sorry for Michael. I am so sorry your ex-wife DID NOT defend you on 4 different interviews.

People want to call michael immature? no matter how upset... the stunt that she pulled at the hospital.... where even Katherine was upset with her .. what about that? I understand that she was upset. To a certain degree she had every right to be. But by the same token..... she acted like he wasn't sick.. there is another thread on here when the doc who treated michael said michael was really ill.

i don't understand how some people are feeling so sorry for her based on the reports that she was at the burial distraught? why do people even find this surprising. so surprising that people feel so bad and touched by it. what did people expect... she would go to the burial sit there with emotionless??


not to mention.... she and oxman were like the first people say... drug addiction was the reason for the cause of death on JUNE 25th.

the bottom line is this. i am sorry she is grieving. I think they did love each other. its sad that it didn't work out. but just because one grieve's now doesn't mean that all the PUBLIC trashing or non defense of Michael would be erased.

AND I detest Diane Sawyer... "michael jackson?michael jackson?".... LMP... I was in trying to save him".... what does that mean? LMP... I was trying to rebel against my mother.... so michael was a pawn??

 

[TialovesMJ]

Michael wasn't acting immature... Who said he was acting immature about the whole thing??

 

[mjjfan4ever]

i didn't know about the whole "birth control" thing until i read the post here.... not going to even comment on it.

and sorry this self righteous fan is taking the side of michael jackson. not saying he was completely perfect but.... out of the two i am so much more proud of the way in which michael handled everything.

as far as for forgiving lisa... she doesn't need your, mine, the family's forgiveness. she needed the forgiveness of one person who is no longer here. while he was alive he was hurt by it.

having an opinion is just that. each of us have our own opinions. and we can all safely assume we will not agree with each other.

when this thread was started... there were fans from both lisa and michael's perspective sharing our opinions and disagreeing with each other but RESPECTFULLY.

 

[xXMJJXx]

i didn't know about the whole "birth control" thing until i read the post here.... not going to even comment on it.

and sorry this self righteous fan is taking the side of michael jackson. not saying he was completely perfect but.... out of the two i am so much more proud of the way in which michael handled everything.

as far as for forgiving lisa... she doesn't need your, mine, the family's forgiveness. she needed the forgiveness of one person who is no longer here. while he was alive he was hurt by it.

having an opinion is just that. each of us have our own opinions. and we can all safely assume we will not agree with each other.

when this thread was started... there were fans from both lisa and michael's perspective sharing our opinions and disagreeing with each other but RESPECTFULLY.

:clapping:
and I really think the speculation (how ever you spell it) on this thread has gone too far
none of us know anything about what happened between them the only side we know of is Lisa's side (some of it could be not true)mj never talked about it so you can never really know the full story

 

[TurtleDove]

i didn't know about the whole "birth control" thing until i read the post here.... not going to even comment on it.

and sorry this self righteous fan is taking the side of michael jackson. not saying he was completely perfect but.... out of the two i am so much more proud of the way in which michael handled everything.

as far as for forgiving lisa... she doesn't need your, mine, the family's forgiveness. she needed the forgiveness of one person who is no longer here. while he was alive he was hurt by it.

having an opinion is just that. each of us have our own opinions. and we can all safely assume we will not agree with each other.

when this thread was started... there were fans from both lisa and michael's perspective sharing our opinions and disagreeing with each other but RESPECTFULLY.

:clapping:
and I really think the speculation (how ever you spell it) on this thread has gone too far
none of us know anything about what happened between them the only side we know of is Lisa's side (some of it could be not true)mj never talked about it so you can never really know the full story

I agree. There is NO evidence to back up the birth control allegation. People really need to stop with all the speculating. She said that he told MJ she just didn't think it was the "right time" to have kids when he asked so why would she have to play games with birth control? She didn't is the answer.

I also don't believe Lisa had anything to gain from lying about Michael or his behavior. She's the one who took the hit to her reputation for being with him. If anything she had much more to gain by lying and saying the relationship was fake. I think everything she has said thus far is the truth as how she saw it from her perspective. It's obvious that she didn't get whatever questions she had answered by Michael for unknown reasons.

Lisa is clearly a hot button issue for many fans but please let's try to remember that rumor, scandal and specuation caused MJ alot of pain. We shouldn't want to put that on anyone else. Especially someone that Michael loved dearly.

 

[dori727]

Not only do I believe that MJ would still be alive, I also think the 05 trial would have never happened. Lisa would have seen through the Arviso's BS right from jump and would have kept them away from her family.

I honestly think the last 15 years would have been very different for Mike if they had stayed married.






Lisa was angry with Michael. She wasn't going to defend him! Why can't people see that? She was lashing out at him the only way she felt she could. In a way she did defend him because she could've dogged him out for real and could have lied about the truth of the relationship. But she didn't. She has always said she loved him and what they had was real.


If Lisa doesn't deserve forgiveness then neither does LaToya, Jermaine, Joe, etc. People get angry and they say things that aren't always positive or nice. We've all done it and Lisa is no different.


Why can't people just give her a break? Michael's gone now but because of Lisa he had the love he was searching for like he talked about in those secret phone calls. Obviously, it was something very powerful for Lisa as well because she wouldn't have ben so angry about it. Can you blame her for being angry or hurt that it didn't work out? She obviously had hoped it would have been much different.

I completely agree! Lisa said once that while they were together Michael never ever once had a kid sleep in the room due to respect for Lisa. You know, privacy and stuff. Lisa would have never allowed it to happen and also, i saw some interview of Gavin's mother and trust me, Lisa would have seen right through her fake ass. And think about it, even if Michael would have gone to jail, the fact that he would have had someone there like Lisa to help him work things out would have made a HUGE difference. And while Michael was with Lisa he was always smiling and was extremely playful. He stated in an interview once on tv guide that a marriage to him is knowing from the beginning that she is the one. He saw Lisa and that's exactly what he thought. So i dont think he would have been so depressed and needed help with sleeping if Lisa would have been around. And Lisa did lash out because she was severely hurt, everyone does it. But i don't think she was lying at all in anything she said, and when Howard stern asked her about his penis and stuff she politely said that she wasn't going to talk about it.

:clapping::clapping:

the DS interview is etched in my memory. DS kept asking.... Lisa kept saying and squirming as if SHE DID REALLY DO SOMETHING WRONG. give me a break. now because she was invited to the burial and she was crying I am to feel sorry for her?

I feel sorry for Michael. I am so sorry your ex-wife DID NOT defend you on 4 different interviews.

People want to call michael immature? no matter how upset... the stunt that she pulled at the hospital.... where even Katherine was upset with her .. what about that? I understand that she was upset. To a certain degree she had every right to be. But by the same token..... she acted like he wasn't sick.. there is another thread on here when the doc who treated michael said michael was really ill.

i don't understand how some people are feeling so sorry for her based on the reports that she was at the burial distraught? why do people even find this surprising. so surprising that people feel so bad and touched by it. what did people expect... she would go to the burial sit there with emotionless??


not to mention.... she and oxman were like the first people say... drug addiction was the reason for the cause of death on JUNE 25th.

the bottom line is this. i am sorry she is grieving. I think they did love each other. its sad that it didn't work out. but just because one grieve's now doesn't mean that all the PUBLIC trashing or non defense of Michael would be erased.

no see, Lisa in the interview looked mad and annoyed. Haven't you ever dated someone or liked some one and then every one starts giving you crap about it? you ignore everyone and when things don't work out with that person everyone around you is STILL giving you crap about it. That's what happened to Lisa. She was annoyed because people were asking her too many questions and she was probably thinking dam..wth was i thinking?!? I think the only reason why Lisa ever once regretted the relationship is because she fell hard for michael and never fully gotten over him. Sort of like when you like some one so much, and you can't get over that person that you think "dam, why did i have to like you".

And in the hospital yes lisa acted wrong and impulsively. But she hadn't seen Michael for week's, maybe months! I would have been pissed off too. But in all fairness to her, she did try the next day to talk to Michael calmly, but Katherine got mad and wouldn't let Lisa talk to Michael.

And Lisa never pointed out he was a druggie. She just said that Michael was afraid to die like Elvis (possibly meaning dying at a young age), and she said he had a destructive behavior sometimes. But she also said that Michael had a power etc and that when he was good he was realy good. She also said she lost herself and wasn't being a good mom for her kids. This is totally acceptable and understandable. Kids go before anyone IMO. I bet if she wouldn't have had kids, she would have never left him.

I agree. There is NO evidence to back up the birth control allegation. People really need to stop with all the speculating. She said that he told MJ she just didn't think it was the "right time" to have kids when he asked so why would she have to play games with birth control? She didn't is the answer.

I also don't believe Lisa had anything to gain from lying about Michael or his behavior. She's the one who took the hit to her reputation for being with him. If anything she had much more to gain by lying and saying the relationship was fake. I think everything she has said thus far is the truth as how she saw it from her perspective. It's obvious that she didn't get whatever questions she had answered by Michael for unknown reasons.

Lisa is clearly a hot button issue for many fans but please let's try to remember that rumor, scandal and specuation caused MJ alot of pain. We shouldn't want to put that on anyone else. Especially someone that Michael loved dearly.

I agree. No mater what happened, Lisa was the love of his life. In his phone conversations to Glenda he said he wanted to have a REAL relationship with a women that loved him for HIM and not because his name is Michael Jackson. And yes, i too agree Lisa was everything Michael needed. He had witnessed his mom going through a tough marriage and wished many times his mom were strong enough to leave joseph, But she never did. In Lisa he found someone funny, someone on the same level of fame as him, understanding, she didn't attack him etc. Michael hated when girls threw themselves on him and stuff. I think he liked the fact that Lisa didn't really like him at the beginning and that he had to chase her. It wasn't normal for him and he liked that. Lisa has always said that Michael was the instigator for everything.

 

[elmari]

If Lisa didn't still love Michael (in some way, shape or form), I don't think she would have bothered making a statement, writing that blog, nor going to his private funeral.

Everyone makes mistakes (even huge ones) and we are more sensitive to hers because she acted out against Michael. But we have to ask 'WHY' she would do such a thing.

As we have learned more and more info about their relationship in the past 13 years, I think it is very clear that Lisa Marie loved Michael very much and he was a true husband to her. We have also learned that she was very hurt by Michael and that she has nursed that pain for many years. That pain must have culminated by 2003, thus her lashing out at him. Michael has never said anything negative about her nor their relationship. I think Lisa said those things to get Michael's attention because maybe he had cut all contact with her after 2003 for some reason. She wanted to hurt him to get some kind of reaction from him. But Michael had enough on his plate by that time and didn't want to play her games. Whether she got a reaction from him or not (in private), she's the only one that knows.

As far as we know, she still wanted to be in contact with him as recent as 2005 or so when she called to talk to him about what had happened btw them. I am thinking that she is not referring to why they had divorced in 1996 because that is obvious why they divorced. Plus, they were still seeing each other and talking about each in good terms publicly for years after the divorce. I think she wanted to know what happened to them after 2003 because it still seemed they were on some sort of speaking terms at that time. Plus, that's when her album came out with all those negative songs about him (IMO) and when she really started to talk ill of him.

As always, all of the above ^^ is just my opinion.

 

[dori727]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJIqyaJhZx0&feature=player_embedded

you can see lisa and riley in this video but very shortly 0:53 on the left side at the top

you can see riley sitting down next to her. Lisa is on the outside and riley on the inside, last row on the right.

 

[elmari]

you can see lisa and riley in this video but very shortly 0:53 on the left side at the top

you can see riley sitting down next to her. Lisa is on the outside and riley on the inside, last row on the right.

Wow. . . good eyes, dori. That is definitely them.

Umm, was a little bit put off at Mac and Mila smoking in the back. I'm not a big fan of smoking. . .

 

[dori727]

Wow. . . good yes dori. That is definitely them.

Umm, was a little bit put off at Mac and Mila smoking in the back. I'm not a big fan of smoking. . .

lol me neither. I'm not a big fan of smoking, but i'm glad there is finally video proof of lisa lol

 

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

you can see lisa and riley in this video but very shortly 0:53 on the left side at the top

you can see riley sitting down next to her. Lisa is on the outside and riley on the inside, last row on the right.

You have a really good eye! Thanks. :hi:

Not only do I believe that MJ would still be alive, I also think the 05 trial would have never happened. Lisa would have seen through the Arviso's BS right from jump and would have kept them away from her family.

I honestly think the last 15 years would have been very different for Mike if they had stayed married.

I agree. Even if they had gotten back together after he divorced Debbie. She would have told the fake-ass friends and leeches to GTFO.

 

[VanX]

I personally think that Lisa regrets the breakup to this day. How she managed to get married another couple of times and have more kids is beyond me! It always seemed to me like she NEVER got over Michael.

 

[elmari]

I personally think that Lisa regrets the breakup to this day. How she managed to get married another couple of times and have more kids is beyond me! It always seemed to me like she NEVER got over Michael.

Lisa has a lyric in one of her song 'The Road Between' that goes:

"I changed my furniture to make you go away. I'm still overwhelmed at how much space you take."

 

[micaro7]

:clapping::clapping:

the DS interview is etched in my memory. DS kept asking.... Lisa kept saying and squirming as if SHE DID REALLY DO SOMETHING WRONG. give me a break. now because she was invited to the burial and she was crying I am to feel sorry for her?

I feel sorry for Michael. I am so sorry your ex-wife DID NOT defend you on 4 different interviews.

People want to call michael immature? no matter how upset... the stunt that she pulled at the hospital.... where even Katherine was upset with her .. what about that? I understand that she was upset. To a certain degree she had every right to be. But by the same token..... she acted like he wasn't sick.. there is another thread on here when the doc who treated michael said michael was really ill.

i don't understand how some people are feeling so sorry for her based on the reports that she was at the burial distraught? why do people even find this surprising. so surprising that people feel so bad and touched by it. what did people expect... she would go to the burial sit there with emotionless??


not to mention.... she and oxman were like the first people say... drug addiction was the reason for the cause of death on JUNE 25th.

the bottom line is this. i am sorry she is grieving. I think they did love each other. its sad that it didn't work out. but just because one grieve's now doesn't mean that all the PUBLIC trashing or non defense of Michael would be erased.

AND I detest Diane Sawyer... "michael jackson?michael jackson?".... LMP... I was in trying to save him".... what does that mean? LMP... I was trying to rebel against my mother.... so michael was a pawn??

Thank you, I feel sorry for Michael.... I don't know if Karen F is reliable or not but she has said before the funeral she didn't have anything good to say about LMP. She added that LMP hurt MJ badly and he was very tortured by that relationship. Granted she said she only had MJ's side of the story naturally but that says alot to me.....
I guess my problem with LMP is not LMP herself but why some people seem to hold her up so high.

And as far as her interveiws from DS to rolling stone to playboy... A simple no comment would have sufficed. Alll the excuses are just that....
She's not stupid, She didn't pull that mess with Nic Cage.
And some of the things were hurtful to Michael. I watched her on LK say how him getting arrested was good for her since it takes the heat off of her.... I was like :bugeyed
Or when in Australia, she said she has saw things, right in the middle of the investigation??? come on
LM likes to play like she all badass but all those interviews tell me she's not.

 

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ok the thing that makes me mad is that some ppl in this thread say "lisa is sad" "lisa still loved him" " lisa could have saved his life" "she left coz his use of drugs"
how could you know that?
ok I know that every one has there own opinion
but were is mjs side of the story? you cant have an opinion based on one side of the story
look Im not saying that she is not telling the truth but come one ppl mj is not here to defend himself or say anything about the subject clearly it was something he wanted privet and you talking about it will not change anything that has happened
who knows maybe if they stayed together the trail wouldn't happened but something more horrible could we just don't know
I just dont like it when some here say that he was wrong and he did this and that
that is very disrespectful to him you don't know him and you don't know what happened