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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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you know what the bickering in here is terrible,it was at one point a quiet and respectful thread,whats happened?
if a theory angered me so much i wouldn,t come in here.
and another thing asedora,i don,t know either way if michael is still with us or the oppisite,but in no way am i helping his murderers by looking into the hoax theory,i really recent you saying this,it really has got my back up,
i have been a fan for 23yrs and have been over to l.a since june the 25th,to even contimplate that i or anyone who looks into this theory doesn,t care is just so disrespectful,so please just try and stop the bickering please,you gave your point of view so just move on or may i make a suggestion,why don,t you make a thread based on your facts about aeg?,
 
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man.in.the.mirror said:
i,m not sure it is either,i think the other one is his because it directs to his official page,
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From http://twitter.com/realkennyortega

kenny4.jpg


This also directs to his official page: http://www.kennyortega.com/Kenny_Ortega/Welcome.html

And yes, http://twitter.com/KennyOrtegaBlog is the other one.
 
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man.in.the.mirror said:
you know what the bickering in here is terrible,it was at one point a quiet and respectful thread,whats happened?
if a theory angered me so much i wouldn,t come in here.
and another thing asedora,i don,t know either way if michael is still with us or the oppisite,but in no way am i helping his murderers by looking into the hoax theory,i really recent you saying this,it really has got my back up,
i have been a fan for 23yrs and have been over to l.a since june the 25th,to even contimplate that i or anyone who looks into this theory doesn,t care is just so disrespectful,so please just try and stop the bickering please,you gave your point of view so just move on or may i make a suggestion,why don,t you make a thread based on your facts about aeg?,
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Don't worry, Asedora created his/her own thread already. :)
 
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Just because it redirect to the official site doesn't mean anything. Site-jackers do that, they redirect your website to theirs or some other one out there that can even contain viruses or whatnot.
It's not him. I mean MJ is not dead and might make a debut on his brothers reality show??!! 'Nuff said.
 
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It doesn't really redirect but just links to his official site. I was going to drop this but I just thought why would someone make a fake KO account and take lengths to make cryptic messages like that? KO made several cryptic messages himself last year but stopped after people suddenly kept bugging him about them. And the first post of the "fake" account was made on Oct 24, just a few days before TII movie opened in theaters. I don't know if this makes any sense or what. I'll just read on for the meantime. And thanks to all for your straightforward comments. :)
 
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Rubi said:
About MJHD.
I found it.
Who can explain this? I can not

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Where is that from? All the other domain searches give June 25 as the creation date. Yours says June 26.

I find it very suspicious, that any time someone started seriously questioning the identity of the owner or the creation date, the board got deleted. This happened three times, the last time it was for good.

And it's not just the possible June 23 date, it's also an admin account that was created on June 1.

Whether those are just technical glitches or something else, I find it highly suspicious that you are allowed to talk about anything, but try to talk murder conspiracy or wonder who's behind a hoax site, and you're silenced/deleted right away. Hmmmmmm.
 
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princessleia said:
Where is that from? All the other domain searches give June 25 as the creation date. Yours says June 26. ?
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Exactly. Each time appears an information.
I read some things on this site have been created before the official declaration of "passing." And I also read an explanation in some places it was due to difference in time zone. This was a screenshot that I have the screen at any site on hoax, but not noted link, nothing ... just saved the image, for fear of disappearing after the internet. I must be the source for now. I will work to find ...
Just wanted compratilhar the difference of information coming ..

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For this printscreen that have zero hours of 26/06/09, that is the turn of the Dia 25/06 ... when all were still totally perplexed by what happened ...
How to think anything at that moment?
I can not explain.
 
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'Horror Night' footage of 'MJ' on a balcony with security and more:
[youtube]Exn39YbOJaU[/youtube]
 
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Rubi said:
Exactly. Each time appears an information.
I read some things on this site have been created before the official declaration of "passing." And I also read an explanation in some places it was due to difference in time zone. This was a screenshot that I have the screen at any site on hoax, but not noted link, nothing ... just saved the image, for fear of disappearing after the internet. I must be the source for now. I will work to find ...
Just wanted compratilhar the difference of information coming ..

EDIT:
For this printscreen that have zero hours of 26/06/09, that is the turn of the Dia 25/06 ... when all were still totally perplexed by what happened ...
How to think anything at that moment?
I can not explain.
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Sorry, I edited after your reply.

I think the photo you found is a fake, if you do a domain search now the creation date comes up June 25, and that's what everyone else is getting. The photo doesn't show what URL that info is supposed to come from.

I think whether that photo is real or not it just shows there is something fishy about these hoax sites, because either menas that people are planting fake photos on hoax sites, or that registration data gets altered (I don't think that's possible though). Either way it's fihsy imo.

(If you don't have a link anymore that's ok, it's not that important)
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
Here is an interesting theory that Michael hasnt died but is in a coma:
[youtube]rNqB-0FqVDk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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I don`t think this is possible...If Michael was still in coma they would have told us, but his brains died and this was it...
Let`s say he was/is in coma. They didn`t know how long this is going to continue - from one day to n years. They couldn`t predict the results before the recovery, maby everything would be fine, maby not. But how could they announce he is already dead...they would simply say he`s in coma, we have to wait.... Soon there will be stories that Michael after coma is retarded and his family will be hiding him for the rest of his life... You know, I can create even more stories like this, but that`s sick, that`s life, not a soap-opera....

Peace, I`m open minded, but some things are so obviously unreal or fake that I can`t not comment them:>
 
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I haven't read all the thread, but I believe that hoax "theory" it highly disrespectful to Michael Jackson. MJ was so foully slandered, tormented and then ultimately murdered by soulless crooks, it is a great tragedy, but hoax people make it a travesty. Painting him hiding? going around disguised as a woman? What sick minds could make this up??

I can understand that some people may have a hard time letting him go, they may imagine him "moon dancing with angels"... well, ok, if it helps someone... but to suggest that he is pulling pranks on people suffering is disrespectful and IMHO should not be tolerated.

Michael is gone, he is gone, and no amount of tears or anger can bring him back, and it is unbearable to think, that his murderers may go unpunished, and I think, that is what we all need to concentrate on - to find and expose the murderers... but not spend time on the false theories and groundless hopes?
 
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Tiny Bird said:
I haven't read all the thread, but I believe that hoax "theory" it highly disrespectful to Michael Jackson. MJ was so foully slandered, tormented and then ultimately murdered by soulless crooks, it is a great tragedy, but hoax people make it a travesty. Painting him hiding? going around disguised as a woman? What sick minds could make this up??

I can understand that some people may have a hard time letting him go, they may imagine him "moon dancing with angels"... well, ok, if it helps someone... but to suggest that he is pulling pranks on people suffering is disrespectful and IMHO should not be tolerated.

Michael is gone, he is gone, and no amount of tears or anger can bring him back, and it is unbearable to think, that his murderers may go unpunished, and I think, that is what we all need to concentrate on - to find and expose the murderers... but not spend time on the false theories and groundless hopes?
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If you haven't read the entire thread then you don't have base to say it is based on false theory and groundless hope.

It does contain silly theories but it wasn't all like that. This thread had FACTUAL oddities and inconsistances. It has changed over time as people have come in to contribute. What was useful was the FACTUAL things in here, not the ridiculous baseless claims, but what people post cannot be controlled.

And FYI it was never about him 'pulling a prank' it was suspected his life was in danger, and he either escaped it or he is gone. Who said anything about him dressed as a woman? :smilerolleyes:

AND FYI - It was posted pages back that either Michael escaped his murderers or that someone is indeed FKING with us to make it look like it! - so we are well aware.

I'm going to leave this thread and go to 'the odd list'.
 
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If it isn't a hoax why is murray walking around 7months free and his arrest has been delayed once again????
 
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That's right some of the inconsistencies has made certain facts to come out, this helps the investigation even if michael has passed away. We are here to find the truth, if people want to dubunk the idea of a hoax then simply dont post in this thread.

Anybody know why murrays arrest has been delayed?
 
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Tiny Bird said:
I haven't read all the thread, but I believe that hoax "theory" it highly disrespectful to Michael Jackson. MJ was so foully slandered, tormented and then ultimately murdered by soulless crooks, it is a great tragedy, but hoax people make it a travesty. Painting him hiding? going around disguised as a woman? What sick minds could make this up??

I can understand that some people may have a hard time letting him go, they may imagine him "moon dancing with angels"... well, ok, if it helps someone... but to suggest that he is pulling pranks on people suffering is disrespectful and IMHO should not be tolerated.

Michael is gone, he is gone, and no amount of tears or anger can bring him back, and it is unbearable to think, that his murderers may go unpunished, and I think, that is what we all need to concentrate on - to find and expose the murderers... but not spend time on the false theories and groundless hopes?
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Thank you for this post. Like you said hoax websites are evry disrespectful to Michael and to his family. There is no factual material. All their "facts" are fraud andwhen I exposed this fraud a few times on this forum hoax ppl twisted my words immidiately cus this is a tactic..

This forum was under well arganized attack from this website imo. This website shows ZERO respect to MJ life and death calling his WA*cko Ja*cko. If some fans still want to use this factual material from this website go ahead, help Michael's murders.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/

Also, I started a new thread where ppl can read more about this website.
 
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Asedora said:
Thank you for this post. Like you said hoax websites are evry disrespectful to Michael and to his family. There is no factual material. All their "facts" are fraud andwhen I exposed this fraud a few times on this forum hoax ppl twisted my words immidiately cus this is a tactic..

This forum was under well arganized attack from this website imo. This website shows ZERO respect to MJ life and death calling his WA*cko Ja*cko. If some fans still want to use this factual material from this website go ahead, help Michael's murders.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/

Also, I started a new thread where ppl can read more about this website.
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This thread is NOT that flipping website. I for one have been watching youtube videos, not visiting that site.

You need to realise all the 'facts' are not fraud. Are the things which happened at the memorial and the end of the TII film and the funeral not factual?

Stop trying to make people here look something they're not, like they don't care about Michael. I'm going to repost what I posted before because you obviously aren't listening -

If you haven't read the entire thread then you don't have base to say it is based on false theory and groundless hope.

It does contain silly theories but it wasn't all like that. This thread had FACTUAL oddities and inconsistances. It has changed over time as people have come in to contribute. What was useful was the FACTUAL things in here, not the ridiculous baseless claims, but what people post cannot be controlled.

And FYI it was never about him 'pulling a prank' it was suspected his life was in danger, and he either escaped it or he is gone. Who said anything about him dressed as a woman? :smilerolleyes:

AND FYI - It was posted pages back that either Michael escaped his murderers or that someone is indeed FKING with us to make it look like it! - so we are well aware.

I'm going to leave this thread and go to 'the odd list'.
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When you thought Michael was killed by the Illuminati did people make fun of you?
 
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MJJ7777 said:
because many info posted on hoax forums come from common knowledge, official documents pertaining to Michael's life and death and unusual cirmcumstances surrounding his death.
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In my opinion all released documents are false. First because of the name: Michael Joseph Jackson. In some documents abbreviated, NEVER in any official document that shortens a person's name. Have to count the legal name of the person in official documents >>> Michael Joe Jackson or Michael Joe Jackson AKA Michael Joseph Jackson



*AKA:



A.K.A., AKA, a.k.a., aka, or a/k/a may refer to:
  • "Also known as", used to describe author pseudonyms, aliases, nicknames, working names, legalized names, pen names, maiden names, etc.; in this context, traditional proper professional punctuation dictates that it is to be abbreviated in the form "a/k/a". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aka

Look again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEUhTJ_1FCk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2593386&postcount=15

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_name

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_change



And if you check for example, birth certificates of children who were released the names are all wrong . Even the name of Debbie's wrong too. In the book "My Family" written by Katie, published in 1990, she says Michael Joe Jackson (Legal Name). I do not believe that official documents would thus be available for anyone to access and go around disclosing private information anywhere, because I believe that the Jackson family would not allow it.


Reading the verdict in 2005... pay attention from 2:10:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV8hzaYNdNM&feature=player_embedded



You will find many documents and links on the Internet. Here's some:

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/042105crimcalamend.pdf

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9807/doc19theverdict.pdf

http://dockets.justia.com/search?query=michael+joe+jackson+sony&search=Search&stateorcourt=&lawsuittype=&documentfilter=allcases&cases=mostrecent&min-day=1&min-month=1&min-year=2004&max-day=6&max-month=9&max-year=2009

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1038/mjpassport.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4733/217586.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3501/68666205.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8592/73156919.jpg

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss157/J5Secrets/queen.jpg

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?fromrow=1&torow=25&keyname=JACKSON%20MICHAEL%20JOE&querytype=WriterID&keyid=168593&page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&affiliation=BMI&cae=2961801



And there's more and each draw your own conclusions.
 
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You need to realise all the 'facts' are not fraud. Are the things which happened at the memorial and the end of the TII film and the funeral not factual?
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They give you some facts but those facts mixed with 100% fraud. If you still do not understand it I feel sorry for you.
 
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Asedora said:
They give you some facts but those facts mixed with 100% fraud. If you still do not understand it I feel sorry for you.
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I replied in your other thread. Don't worry about me, I am not being led to think Michael is alive by anyone. I'm just noticing the real factual stuff. I don't get taken in by the fake baseless stuff.
 
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Rockin. said:
If you haven't read the entire thread then you don't have base to say it is based on false theory and groundless hope.

It does contain silly theories but it wasn't all like that. This thread had FACTUAL oddities and inconsistances. It has changed over time as people have come in to contribute. What was useful was the FACTUAL things in here, not the ridiculous baseless claims, but what people post cannot be controlled.

And FYI it was never about him 'pulling a prank' it was suspected his life was in danger, and he either escaped it or he is gone. Who said anything about him dressed as a woman? :smilerolleyes:

AND FYI - It was posted pages back that either Michael escaped his murderers or that someone is indeed FKING with us to make it look like it! - so we are well aware.

I'm going to leave this thread and go to 'the odd list'.
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Rocking, I don't really need to read all of THIS thread, to have a "base". After MJ's death I am reading ALL I can get my eyes on, all over the i-net, all I can find in the libraries... facebook, youtube, twitter, dozens of the music and entertaining web sites... you name it... So I believe I do have a base... And if you haven't heard about him dressed as a woman, you probably have read even less then me:)

As for the FACTUAL things, they do have interesting findings, but they mix it with really fake and crazy info there, and by this they discredit legitimate facts! ... Rocking, please believe me, I understand what you mean, but also I notice that this people are being disrespectful and it really hurts....

And heatbreaker247, you are kidding, right? :) If not... oh, I am sorry:))
 
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Asedora said:
They give you some facts but those facts mixed with 100% fraud. If you still do not understand it I feel sorry for you.
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You dont need to worry about any one other than yourself.
 
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