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So Pearl Jr. Just told me that she is a part of the Tribute Event thing that is the Beverly Hills Hotel. She was asked by Jackson Family "workers" or something like that to work on it with them. But she said that Randy Jr. , Genevieve (randy's daughter) and Papa Joe are for sure going to be there. But I also read somewhere else that Katherine and MJ3 wont be there because they will be out of town on that day.. Will they be in town ON june 25? God knows!! hmmmm!!
 
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But I also read somewhere else that Katherine and MJ3 wont be there because they will be out of town on that day.. Will they be in town ON june 25? God knows!! hmmmm!!
TMZ... as always. :smilerolleyes: I really wanted to know the names of these mysterious sources.


"Forever Michael" is being thrown by The Jackson Family Foundation and VoicePlate.com. Joseph Fahmy, the guy who runs VoicePlate, tells TMZ Joe and Katherine Jackson, along with Michael's 3 kids are expected to attend. But sources connected with the family tell us ... Katherine and the kids won't even be in town on June 26 -- the day of the event.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/07/michael-jackson-memorial-beverly-hilton-hotel-tribute-death/


And that makes us think: where they will go 26 days? If this is true, maybe they will not go to FL on the 25th. (?) :scratch:
 
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Dr. Murray Targeted By California Medical Board
Originally posted Jun 9th 2010 4:31 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

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The California Medical Board wants a judge to order Dr. Conrad Murray to stop practicing medicine ASAP -- in order to "protect California's citizens."


While Murray is already prohibited from administering "deep anesthetics" -- including propofol -- the Board has filed documents last week in L.A. County Superior Court, claiming those restrictions are "insufficient under the circumstances of this defendant's behavior."

In the docs, the Board states, "It is not just his 'prescribing' practices that are in question, but his fundamental judgment and skill as a physician."

The Board is requesting an order that Murray, "cease and desist from the practice of medicine" until his criminal trial regarding MJ's death reaches a conclusion.

Seriously though, It's been a year, and they JUST NOW realized???
 
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Dr. Murray Targeted By California Medical Board
Originally posted Jun 9th 2010 4:31 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

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The California Medical Board wants a judge to order Dr. Conrad Murray to stop practicing medicine ASAP -- in order to "protect California's citizens."


While Murray is already prohibited from administering "deep anesthetics" -- including propofol -- the Board has filed documents last week in L.A. County Superior Court, claiming those restrictions are "insufficient under the circumstances of this defendant's behavior."

In the docs, the Board states, "It is not just his 'prescribing' practices that are in question, but his fundamental judgment and skill as a physician."

The Board is requesting an order that Murray, "cease and desist from the practice of medicine" until his criminal trial regarding MJ's death reaches a conclusion.

Seriously though, It's been a year, and they JUST NOW realized???
:smilerolleyes:

Oh, really after all this time? :doh: I'll take my coffee. >>> :coffee:

To me this is a big joke. -_- Well, I'm preparing for the circus.... June 14. :popcorn:

:sigh:
 
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I know that this is a long read, but I just found it in one of the old threads! I love all the symbolism in this Cover, it's so genius! But please read it, esp the part I highlighted...
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The Dangerous album cover.

For the purpose of this article the artwork will be discussed in sections. The top centre (TC) consisting of crown and menagerie; left (L) consisting of the regal column; right (R) consisting of the female regal column; bottom section (B).

Top Centre.

When one's eyes first glance the cover they are immediately drawn to the top centre consisting of MJ's eyes, name, and crown. Paying attention to the crown we see it being held either side by two winged angels. These angels hold the crown over the head of a monkey, who is in turn being held by a fairy princess. This symbolises the evolution of humankind and represents the close ties and inter-connectiveness we as humans have to the animal kingdom. A theme that is represented several times in the artwork. The inclusion of angels and the fairy and the pictorial hierarchy represents the link between the divine (God -> angels) and the magical (fairy). This also shows MJ's belief in a higher power and the ability to create magic.

To the left and right of this rests two more angels, and two female goddess, all holding trumpets in a 'fanfare' like pose. This harks back to a regal era where an important event was heralded by a fanfare of trumpets and music. Below this is a lit marquee bearing MJ's name. Of interest is the inclusion of the star at the end of the name positioned under the "n". This is a link to MJ's ownership of his work as it represents his autograph which has an explosive star at the end of the n. To the left and right of the marquee are two clown faces, one smiling and one frowning. This represents the two extremes of life, namely happiness and sorrow (a theme represented in several songs within the album). This is also an Mj-ised interpretation of the classic theatrical drama masks.

Peering from behind the marquee are the eyes of MJ. He stares intently at the viewer and almost gives the impression of Michael hiding behind an old-fashioned fancy dress mask. Michael's eyes watching over the piece shows his concern for the world and also his awareness of his own image.

Directly below the eyes is a peacock with its feathers displayed. The peacock represents MJ's acknowledgement of his past with the Jackson 5 and the Jacksons. When MJ was first given complete control over his work with his brothers with the release of the Destiny album, he included the Peacock as the symbol for the Jacksons and also created Peacock Productions. Included in the liner notes of the Triumph and Destiny album is the following quote:

Peacock History
"Through the ages, the peacock has been honoured and praised for its attractive, illustrious beauty. In all the bird family, the peacock is the only species that integrates all colours into one, and displays this radiance of fire only when in love. We like the peacock, try to integrate all races into one, through the love and power of music."

Again, Michael strives to unite the world through his music (as is evident in Heal the World). The peacock is surrounded by a menagerie of animals that trail off to the sides. Among the animals are elephants, deer, whales, frogs, lions, rabbits, and buffalo. The elephant to the right of the peacock has the number nine embedded on its skull. The significance of the nine represents the number of Jackson siblings and Michael's bond with his family. At the centre of the menagerie is an encased jewel with a red star on it. This is a representation of Michael as a star, the use of the regal colour red represents the royalty associated with MJ's King of Pop title.

Moving to the Left we have the King's column. The column begins with a clown riding an elephant who is balancing on a ball. A symbol used frequently by circus operators. The clown holds a star over the column. Resting above the throne are various angels filling the air with music. In fact throughout the piece, the images of angels playing music instruments is represented. This shows how MJ is surrounded by music, and its supreme importance in his life.

Upon the throne sits the King. This creature has a dog’s head placed on a human body. The dog has long flowing hair and assumes a regal pose. Upon the dog's head rests a crown with the initials MJ engraved on it. Likewise the left foot of the King (our right) has a sandal on it with the initials MJ on it. This represents Michael as the King, a notion supported further by the right hand of the King being clad in a glowing white glove. This glowing white glove was also represented on the Album cover of the Jackson's Victory album. The glowing white glove represents magic and the wearer's ability to create magic. The king is clothed in a red (regal) gown and his left hand holds a staff with a
hand on the end of it. The hand is making the peace gesture, another concern of the King (MJ). The king’s right hand holds a staff with a bird’s head on it (the queen) and represents his love for his queen. Sitting either side of the throne are a fox and duck, portraying the hunter (fox) and the hunted (duck) MJ has often felt that he has been hounded and hunted by the press. However in this representation the fox has no hind legs and thus cannot catch its prey. Michael shows that whilst the press is hunted he is not going to be stopped or harmed by their attacks. Surrounding the throne are a flying monkey, an Angel, and a statue. The monkey is a nod to "The Wizard of Oz" a journey in search of magic and discovery and also to Michael's performance in the Wiz. The angel is from a painting from Raphael, and the statue represents the goddess of love. Also shown are angels riding in a circle around the throne inside fish. Whilst a surreal image, it represents the joy of amusement rides similar to those found at Disneyland, and the joy they bring. Looking at the throne as a whole the overriding imagery is one of love. The things Michael loves and the strength and power that love brings.


Looking at the Queen's throne (R) we are presented with a birdlike queen. Again her right hand is wearing a white glove, showing her connection to her king. This is also supported by the dog staff she is holding, also representing the mutual love she has for her king. This queen is dressed in a Victorian era, a favourite of Michael's, and holds in her left hand a very precious and delicate ball shaped jewellery box. From her crown fly a group of fairies in a circular arc. Rather than having a human lower torso, the queen is shown as being run by machinery. The dress is being pulled back by two swallows. From the machinery comes a flower stem that is attached to a bubble containing a scene from Bosch's "Garden of Lust". The use of the flower and machinery is a description of nature as a life force. The Queens throne is surrounded by images of nature. This mix of machinery and nature represents how man has damaged Mother Nature and has tried to control her with his machines and factories, thus the half-human half machine blend. To the left of the throne is a bust of child. He is half white and half black representing the harmony that could exist in a world that allowed the differences in races to co-exist.

In the bottom section of the picture, the centre portion depicts an industrial backdrop filled with pollution. As part of this factory the world appears turned upside down. Flowing through the world’s factory is a volatile mix of poison, nuclear waste, pollution, war, violence, disease, and a focus on space. This represents a critique on the way we as humans treat the world. Over running it with factories spewing out pollution, and ruining it with the by-products of our existence we are throwing the world into disarray and chaos.

Either side of the world's factory, is an entrance and exit. This journey of life passes through this factory on the left and exits on the right. The entrance is taken from MJ's favourite ride at Disneyland "The Pirates of the Caribbean". On this ride animals enter alive, however by passing through the man-spoilt world, they do not survive and exit extinct. The only one to survive this journey is man, the person responsible for the destruction. Two figures exit the world safe, they are Macauly Culkin, and MJ. MJ is depicted as a young Jackson 5 member, but is dressed in a Thriller-era jacket. This represents MJ's musical journey from J5 to the present. Above the exit is an eye, showing that someone is watching. Whilst I do not think this is MJ's eye, it does depict the vision of man looking over the world, but will he recognise what he is doing.

In front of the centre section is MJ’s hand. The hand has the number 7 engraved in it. The number 7 has been quoted as the number of goodness, is believed to be magical and bring good fortune. On the hand is an image of the world, this shows MJ’s concern for the world and his ability to help. Standing on the hand is a native child (the first child?) holding the skull of an extinct animal (possibly a dinosaur). This symbolises the plight of humanity, who if they do not take care of the world will also become extinct. To the right of the centre is P.T. Barnum the entrepreneur responsible for running "the greatest show on earth". An axiom that MJ has adopted as his own, and strives to work towards achieving. On Barnum's lapel is a pin with the "1998" symbol. This symbol has been the signature for MJ for the past few years, and signifies the year MJ will turn 40. Upon his head rests a dwarf magician. The magician wears a white glove on his right hand and holds a wand. He is the magician, the creator of magic with his wand pointed at the king's throne, imparting magic to MJ. Upon his head he wears a hat with the number 7 on it, again a symbolic representation of magic.

The four pillars running across the bottom feature four women. Three of them hold branches, the last does not. The first (L) has a skull positioned over her left breast. Does this represent a woman with an ill heart? The final woman (R) wears a sullen face. This could (and I'm stretching) represent the mother of the three daughters. She is at peace with two of them (Reebie and Janet) but is saddened by one of them with an ill heart (La Toya). The columns that these women stand on also represent facets of MJ's career. From left to right they represent his music (white glove), his Captain Eo film (sun and EO) and the peace symbol (his wish for harmony).


In the pop-up collectors edition there are two additions. A dog with only hind legs and head, and a little girl carrying a beetle. Of interest is the fact that the girl is wearing one sock. A white one on her right foot. Other points of interest are the representation of gargoyles on either side of the thrones. Gargoyles were traditionally used to ward of evil spirits. Thus MJ and his Queen are looking for peace, and goodness and the eradication of evil. Either side of the entrance and exit rest MJ statutes dressed in his "Thriller" Grammy Awards outfit.
 
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Seriously though, It's been a year, and they JUST NOW realized???

In all fairness they are trying to suspend Murray's licence for some time now. I believe this is California's 2nd or 3rd attempt, the other states try too. Unfortunately these things take time..

(I can try to explain why it takes time if needed).
 
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Ivy, thanks for the input on several occasions.
if I have this right, suspending a professional license is too difficult because it's considered an asset?
So in trying to do so, the ball is thrown to the Medical Boards to suspend it sooner?
 
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Randy was on CNN today >>>> :horror :


-Randy donated money to a child with cancer. They showed a clip of randy meeting the girl in the hospital.

-He would like to cso more charitable work and encourages his brothers to do so also.

-He wished murray would lose his license, he also thinks more people are involved with his brother's death.

-Michael was afraid for his life, he was threatened that his home, kids and assets would be taken.

-Randy mentions that murray has changed his story many times and isn't telling the truth.

-He has faith in the judicial system but wants harsher charges, the interviwer asked him 2nd degree and randy said 1st degree.

-He said more will come out later...

-Randy and the family question the will for many reasons. As soon as michael passed there were many shady people forcing paper work on them and the will spelt michael's kids names wrong. Michael took pride in being a father and wouldn't make that kind of mistake.

-He then said some sweet thing about who michael was like michael was a warrior a great son,caring, funny and hard-headed brother. June is a difficult month for the family.

-There will be a memorial at forst lawn, fans and family will be there and fans can go past the gates to place a flower at his spot. The family will have an intimate gathering there also.

-The family is forming a charity yet to be named and the family will of course perform again because it's in their blood.
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Hey randy also said on CNN that Murray has said he "maybe did some of it but someone did this to him" That is CONSPIRACY! So When did Murray say others were involved? Do randy mean that Murray lawyers have blamed other doctors that Murray didn't know of? Cause that's all I heard! I ask this question on another thread but no one answered me! Boo! I got ignored! :( lol

But, I think Randy Jackson is blaming AEG! They were allegedly paying MJ's bills and I guess if he didn't do what they wanted him to do, they would have sued him (some fans are saying) and tried to screw him financially!?

According to Randy Philips they were trying to talk MJ into doing something two yrs before the this is it idea even happened! But, MJ was not ready yet Randy Philips said!

MJ was 48 at the time, so what made Randy Philips think if a 48yr old MJ wasn't ready for a tour that a 50yr old MJ would be ready and do 50 shows? It's so confusing! So they finally had MJ agree to do concerts shows (not necessarily the 50) but, he wanted to do some shows...So, why take advantage, If they had him already after two yrs of trying? What idiots if that what they did!?

I guess that's why some believe they gave him a Dr. to keep him going....but, Propofol has effects on the body it don't let u function right and we all seen the movie he was moving like he was 20/30 something so....?

*SIGH*
 
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Randy mentioned different stories coming from Murray saying that he said Michael did this to himself, he was partially responsible Michael was partially responsible etc.

As far as we know Murray didn't blame other people, if he did they would be investigated and charged as well. (Plus other doctors can be a defense strategy but they wouldn't be charged in a murder case)

I too think that Randy is going with AEG and other people. Remember he's close with Karen Faye and all her story is that people involved with the TII concerts knew and did nothing etc so I believe that's the conspiracy he's talking about.
 
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Ivy, thanks for the input on several occasions.
if I have this right, suspending a professional license is too difficult because it's considered an asset?
So in trying to do so, the ball is thrown to the Medical Boards to suspend it sooner?


plus there's "innocent until proven guilty". Yes we all know that Murray is responsible for what happened but as far as law goes until a jury says guilty he's seen innocent. So if they suspend his licence and he's found innocent it would be an issue.

The alternative to this if there's an immediate danger to people that you cannot wait until the verdict you need to protect people. When you look to Murray and his actions it's limited to one person and one drug, so limiting his use of that drug (propofol) seems an appropriate measure.

So in short in many cases a medical licence would not be suspended until a guilty verdict is reached.

As I always say keep the faith, yes the system is not perfect and yes the system doesn't work as quickly as we would like but I believe eventually the justice will be served, Murray will be found guilty and he'll lose his medical licence.
 
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Randy mentioned different stories coming from Murray saying that he said Michael did this to him, he was partially responsible Michael was partially responsible etc.

As far as we know Murray didn't blame other people, if he did they would be investigated and charged as well. (Plus other doctors can be a defense strategy but they wouldn't be charged in a murder case)

I too think that Randy is going with AEG and other people. Remember he's close with Karen Faye and all her story is that people involved with the TII concerts knew and did nothing etc so I believe that's the conspiracy he's talking about.

Thanks for responding to my question!

Oh, and how crazy for Karen to say such a thing about the people working on TII when she was also there and didn't do a thing, except complain after the fact, not before! She even wanted credits on TII and was upset she didn't get it! Hypocrite!
 
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Does anyone know what this is about?

http://pewtermanuscript.blogspot.com/

The Key to Michael Jackson's Death
Labels: hoax, michael jackson death hoax, michael jackson death hoax forum, pewter manuscript, the pewter manuscript

The Pewter Manuscript is the lost key that, we believe, holds the tale of Michael Jackson's death; however, that is only if it can be cracked. The Pewter Manuscript is believed to be written by a close confidant of Michael Jackson, however, the individual's name has never been published to date. The tale of the Pewter Manuscript goes like this: a close friend/confidant of Michael Jackson began writing a document secretly in code shortly after Jackson's death in 2009. The Pewter Manuscript is written in an encrypted code in a made up "gibberish" language. Although the alphabet for the manuscript has been discovered, the code has not yet been cracked. It's believed that the writer of the manuscript passed it off to a friend for safe keeping, possibly telling the friend what exactly the documents secret enclosed. Supposedly the friend either no longer wanted to carry the document, or sold it for quick cash; however, from the original writer to date, the Pewter Manuscript has allegedly shifted owners five times since 2009-- none of which were able to crack the code.

There are many mysteries behind the Pewter Manuscript and many conspiracies about the document. Some believe the document was written by Jackson himself in an effort to share his case with the world, while others believe a close friend wrote it, and yet others believe it is simple a hoax writing. While we can never know for sure, we do know one thing: this is an extremely beautiful and timeless document that we suspect had taken months to complete. With a unique alphabet to its own, and beautiful hand paintings, we are not quite sure what the document contains, and why it was written.

One of the "far out" conspiracies is that the document was written in advance of Jackson's death by Michael Jackson as a manifesto of why he would fake his own death. And although this seems highly unlikely, we really do not know. We really seek a professional code breaking analyst who can break this cipher, because the contents may very well be the answer to one of the world's most infamous and controversial events.

Posted in hoax, michael jackson death hoax, michael jackson death hoax forum, pewter manuscript, the pewter manuscript by The Pewter Manuscript
 
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Does anyone know what this is about?

http://pewtermanuscript.blogspot.com/

The Key to Michael Jackson's Death
Labels: hoax, michael jackson death hoax, michael jackson death hoax forum, pewter manuscript, the pewter manuscript

The Pewter Manuscript is the lost key that, we believe, holds the tale of Michael Jackson's death; however, that is only if it can be cracked. The Pewter Manuscript is believed to be written by a close confidant of Michael Jackson, however, the individual's name has never been published to date. The tale of the Pewter Manuscript goes like this: a close friend/confidant of Michael Jackson began writing a document secretly in code shortly after Jackson's death in 2009. The Pewter Manuscript is written in an encrypted code in a made up "gibberish" language. Although the alphabet for the manuscript has been discovered, the code has not yet been cracked. It's believed that the writer of the manuscript passed it off to a friend for safe keeping, possibly telling the friend what exactly the documents secret enclosed. Supposedly the friend either no longer wanted to carry the document, or sold it for quick cash; however, from the original writer to date, the Pewter Manuscript has allegedly shifted owners five times since 2009-- none of which were able to crack the code.

There are many mysteries behind the Pewter Manuscript and many conspiracies about the document. Some believe the document was written by Jackson himself in an effort to share his case with the world, while others believe a close friend wrote it, and yet others believe it is simple a hoax writing. While we can never know for sure, we do know one thing: this is an extremely beautiful and timeless document that we suspect had taken months to complete. With a unique alphabet to its own, and beautiful hand paintings, we are not quite sure what the document contains, and why it was written.

One of the "far out" conspiracies is that the document was written in advance of Jackson's death by Michael Jackson as a manifesto of why he would fake his own death. And although this seems highly unlikely, we really do not know. We really seek a professional code breaking analyst who can break this cipher, because the contents may very well be the answer to one of the world's most infamous and controversial events.

Posted in hoax, michael jackson death hoax, michael jackson death hoax forum, pewter manuscript, the pewter manuscript by The Pewter Manuscript


I went to the site, expecting to see this beautiful doc, but its not there. Have you seen a pic of it?
 
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^^No thats all there is. Odd isnt it?
 
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Conrad Murray, The Nowhere Man

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I have quite a lot of posts dedicated to Conrad Murray – whether it’s his behaviour after Michael Jackson’s death, his attorney’s statements or his legal situation, a lot has been said. I have now decided to look at who Dr. Murray was before June 25th 2009 happened.
There is one thing we can’t overlook, there is one thing we can’t deny : Conrad Murray is key. He’s the cornerstone of whatever in hell or heaven is happening right now regarding Michael Jackson’s disappearance.
A simple Google search will help us here. First an foremost, I tried vitals.com, which is an online which is a find-a-doctor service that also allows patients to rate said doctors. What comes up in his profile is pretty shallow : basically, an Internal Medecine doctor specialized in Cardiology and Cardiovascular Diseases, which office is located at the Acres Home and Heart Institute Inc in Houston. The website indicates he completed medical school in 1989, at the Meharry Medical College School Of Medecine, which is located in Nashville, Tennessee, in addition to a residency in California, and two fellowships in Arizona and California. Besides poor ratings by patients, not much else is disclosed.
To our common knowledge, he mostly practiced in Houston, Texas so I moved on to the Texas Medical Board website : http://reg.tmb.state.tx.us/OnLineVerif/Phys_ReportVerif.asp?ID_NUM=481975&Type=LP . This gets more interesting. We learn that Conrad Robert Murray was born in 1958, besides the match on his college education. I tried the California Medical Board website which disclosed similar info, barring the birthdate (no disclosure), same for the Nevada Medical Board website. Complaints filed by the Texas Medical Board to restrict his license to practice are registered at all three websites.
Next step is his legal team’s pressroom website, http://houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com/, which pleases us with a detailed biography of Murray’s life. What do we learn there ? Murray was born in Granada, then moved to Trinidad and Tobago with is mother where became a citizen. “In 1978, at the age of 25, he met his father for the first time, Rawle Andrews, M.D.” – we can deduct then that, if Murray was 25 in 1978, the biography implies he was born in 1953. First discrepancy occurs. His education information matches the boards’ info – it specifies that he created the Acres Heart and Vascular Institute in Houston after he moved to Las Vegas, moving his practice back and forth. As for meeting MJ, it only says that Murray became his personal physician in May 2009.
What else have we got ? Biography.com presents us with a similar biography, http://www.biography.com/articles/Dr.-Conrad-Murray-481814 . Born in 1953, again. Acres Home, bla bla bla, Trinidad, etc. It then proceeds to mention that “Murray had first met Michael Jackson in 2006 when the singer, a frequent Vegas visitor, had contacted Dr Murray about treating one of his children for an unknown medical situation. Reports indicate that the two men soon became friends and, as Jackson began making plans for his upcoming concert tour, he hired Dr. Murray to be his personal physician for an astound 150 000$ a month”. Other tabloid websites reported that Murray and Michael met this way, however no elements of concrete proof or witness accounts have ever confirmed or verified it. I’m curious to know where that information came from exactly. You can always trust tabloids not to disclose their sources though, as they usually turn out to be virtual. Biography.com does reveal some sort of source though. The article is ended by : “© 2009 A&E Television Networks. All rights reserved.” You might already know A&E, it’s a cable and satellite TV network, a joint venture with The Walt Disney Company and NBC Universal, in the United States, which also produced and aired the Jackson Brothers’ reality show last year. TMZ.com published in December 2009 that Murray was shooting a TV documentary but it specified that it was being directed by a British media company, so not the same crew. I’m not sure what conclusions to draw from this — why would A&E care to redact and relay Conrad Murray’s biography, that remains a question. UPDATE : Biography.com is a website which belongs to A&E.
Next documents we have concerns Murray’s past – a shady past, that is. Several news outlets, including ETOnline and ABCNews divulged that Conrad Murray was arrested on domestic violenc charges in 1994, complete with a mugshot :
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The mugshot states his birthdate as being 1959. Another birthdate discrepancy. Something else that caught everyone’s attention was that Murray’s defense stated that he was never previously convicted during his February arraignement – he even reiterated it at last April’s courtdate. Again, those files were unearthed, without full disclosure of sources, by the media. Again, discrepancies appear. Again, this adds to the mystery that shrouds Murray’s identity.
Next piece of info : Murray tried suing for AEG on the grounds that he was not paid for the services rendered to MJ, despite a binding contract agreement between the company and himself – basically, that he was on AEG’s payroll. AEG already had state before, as reported by ETOnline.com in July 22nd, that Murray was Michael’s personal physician, that they would have preferred for cost-effective purposes to hire a doctor in London, but that Michael insisted on getting Murray on board. AEG responded to the Murray’s legal row by stating, according to TMZ.com, that the mentioned contract was never signed by MJ or AEG, only by Murray, thus refusing to pay Murray the alleged 300 000$ due. Through a string of interviews, Michael’s entourage claimed they had never met Murray, nor knew who he was, nor was mentioned by Michael (including Frank DiLeo, Arnie Klein and Lou Ferrigno who trained MJ for his TII concerts). Though some tabloids reported that Murray greeted Michael’s family at the hospital, it seems they also were unaware of Murray’s existence till he was implicated in Michael’s death.
Last but not least, another official report on Murray’s identity that reiterates his birthdate as 1953 :
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Posted by TMZ.com, this was on the LA County Sherriff’s official website, when Murray was booked in February after his arraignement. It used to be apparently possibe to check out this info on the website, but I tried out the number on VineLink.com and on the LA County Sherriff’s website, in vain, no results showed up. Several hoaxsters posted a while ago on different forums that they had found, in March, through the search feature, the whole booking information :
Booking No.: 2222243 Last Name: MURRAY First Name: CONRAD Middle Name: ROBERT
Sex: M Race: B Date Of Birth: 02/19/1953 Age: 56 Hair: BRO Eyes: BRO Height: 605 Weight: 220
Charge Level:
ARREST
Arrest Date: 02/08/2010 Arrest Time: 1420 Arrest Agency: 4474 Agency Description: LASD – CSD AIRPORT LOCKUP
Date Booked: 02/08/2010 Time Booked: 1438 Booking Location: LAXL Location Description: CRT – AIRPORT BRANCH, LA MUNI LOCKU
BAIL
Total Bail Amount: 0 Total Hold Bail Amount: 0.00 Grand Total: 0.00
HOUSING LOCATION
Housing Location:
Permanent Housing Assigned Date: 02/08/2010 Assigned Time: 1513 Visitor Status: N
Facility:
Address: City:
Public Visiting Guidelines
For County facility visiting hours, Please call (213) 473-6080 at Inmate Information Center.
COURT
Next Court Code: S100 Next Court Date: 04/05/2010 Next Court Time: 0830 Next Court Case: SA07316401
Court Name: L A SUPERIOR COURT DEPT 100
Court Address: 210 W. TEMPLE STREET Court City: LOS ANGELESUPT
RELEASE
Actual Release Date: 02/25/2010 Release Time: 0715

Again, the 1953 birthdate seems to be confirmed. Also, Murray was apparently released more than 2 weeks after being booked, according to that information. Our investigative alarm seems to go off again.
So… what ? So, how in frickin’ hell was Murray able to register himself for medical license under a birthdate different than what was used in two legal proceedings he was involved in : that is being booked after the 2009 arraignement, which states his birthdate as 1953 also reiterated by both biographies found on his legal team’s website and an article on Biography.com, and his apparent 1994 arrest where he was supposed to be born in 1959. How does that happen ? They verify that info to a tee – not that it’s so hard, you just take the frickin’ ID document, read and copy. Something is rotten in Denmark. And that something solves it all.
We still don’t know how Murray came into Michael’s life. They couldn’t have “just met”. MJ is a world-famous musical icon – if he needs a doctor, for himself or his kids, he doesn’t sit down with a phonebook to peruse it in search for a random, inadequate cardiologist. That does not happen. He probably has a string of assistants to do the dirty work for him – I’m quite surprised that they wouldn’t run a background check on anyone who would enter his life in such significant manner, at least patient ratings – that, or Murray was introduced to Michael by someone he really trusted.
I’m also surprised that not one newspaper, not one journalist, cared to look further into Murray’s past and how he came into Michael’s life. Because we find out how Murray entered it, we find out who introduced him, where and when and the mystery is mostly solved by, among other things, helping us draw out conclusions on Murray’s intentions in regards to Michael, if they were benevolent or malicious. Now, it’s up to us to do that work. Anything can help. I was wondering myself what we could do ourselves to find out such info. I’m going to try calling the patients who were “kind” enough to divulge their phone numbers on Murray’s lawyer’s website, to see if Murray ever mentioned working or meeting MJ – you can too, all the information is here : http://houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com/dr-conrad-murray-current-friends-and-patients/

http://annatomyofahoax.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/conrad-murray-the-nowhere-man/
 
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This is the only thing I found about it

 
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Conrad Murray, The Nowhere Man

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I have quite a lot of posts dedicated to Conrad Murray – whether it’s his behaviour after Michael Jackson’s death, his attorney’s statements or his legal situation, a lot has been said. I have now decided to look at who Dr. Murray was before June 25th 2009 happened.
There is one thing we can’t overlook, there is one thing we can’t deny : Conrad Murray is key. He’s the cornerstone of whatever in hell or heaven is happening right now regarding Michael Jackson’s disappearance.
A simple Google search will help us here. First an foremost, I tried vitals.com, which is an online which is a find-a-doctor service that also allows patients to rate said doctors. What comes up in his profile is pretty shallow : basically, an Internal Medecine doctor specialized in Cardiology and Cardiovascular Diseases, which office is located at the Acres Home and Heart Institute Inc in Houston. The website indicates he completed medical school in 1989, at the Meharry Medical College School Of Medecine, which is located in Nashville, Tennessee, in addition to a residency in California, and two fellowships in Arizona and California. Besides poor ratings by patients, not much else is disclosed.
To our common knowledge, he mostly practiced in Houston, Texas so I moved on to the Texas Medical Board website : http://reg.tmb.state.tx.us/OnLineVerif/Phys_ReportVerif.asp?ID_NUM=481975&Type=LP . This gets more interesting. We learn that Conrad Robert Murray was born in 1958, besides the match on his college education. I tried the California Medical Board website which disclosed similar info, barring the birthdate (no disclosure), same for the Nevada Medical Board website. Complaints filed by the Texas Medical Board to restrict his license to practice are registered at all three websites.
Next step is his legal team’s pressroom website, http://houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com/, which pleases us with a detailed biography of Murray’s life. What do we learn there ? Murray was born in Granada, then moved to Trinidad and Tobago with is mother where became a citizen. “In 1978, at the age of 25, he met his father for the first time, Rawle Andrews, M.D.” – we can deduct then that, if Murray was 25 in 1978, the biography implies he was born in 1953. First discrepancy occurs. His education information matches the boards’ info – it specifies that he created the Acres Heart and Vascular Institute in Houston after he moved to Las Vegas, moving his practice back and forth. As for meeting MJ, it only says that Murray became his personal physician in May 2009.
What else have we got ? Biography.com presents us with a similar biography, http://www.biography.com/articles/Dr.-Conrad-Murray-481814 . Born in 1953, again. Acres Home, bla bla bla, Trinidad, etc. It then proceeds to mention that “Murray had first met Michael Jackson in 2006 when the singer, a frequent Vegas visitor, had contacted Dr Murray about treating one of his children for an unknown medical situation. Reports indicate that the two men soon became friends and, as Jackson began making plans for his upcoming concert tour, he hired Dr. Murray to be his personal physician for an astound 150 000$ a month”. Other tabloid websites reported that Murray and Michael met this way, however no elements of concrete proof or witness accounts have ever confirmed or verified it. I’m curious to know where that information came from exactly. You can always trust tabloids not to disclose their sources though, as they usually turn out to be virtual. Biography.com does reveal some sort of source though. The article is ended by : “© 2009 A&E Television Networks. All rights reserved.” You might already know A&E, it’s a cable and satellite TV network, a joint venture with The Walt Disney Company and NBC Universal, in the United States, which also produced and aired the Jackson Brothers’ reality show last year. TMZ.com published in December 2009 that Murray was shooting a TV documentary but it specified that it was being directed by a British media company, so not the same crew. I’m not sure what conclusions to draw from this — why would A&E care to redact and relay Conrad Murray’s biography, that remains a question. UPDATE : Biography.com is a website which belongs to A&E.
Next documents we have concerns Murray’s past – a shady past, that is. Several news outlets, including ETOnline and ABCNews divulged that Conrad Murray was arrested on domestic violenc charges in 1994, complete with a mugshot :
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The mugshot states his birthdate as being 1959. Another birthdate discrepancy. Something else that caught everyone’s attention was that Murray’s defense stated that he was never previously convicted during his February arraignement – he even reiterated it at last April’s courtdate. Again, those files were unearthed, without full disclosure of sources, by the media. Again, discrepancies appear. Again, this adds to the mystery that shrouds Murray’s identity.
Next piece of info : Murray tried suing for AEG on the grounds that he was not paid for the services rendered to MJ, despite a binding contract agreement between the company and himself – basically, that he was on AEG’s payroll. AEG already had state before, as reported by ETOnline.com in July 22nd, that Murray was Michael’s personal physician, that they would have preferred for cost-effective purposes to hire a doctor in London, but that Michael insisted on getting Murray on board. AEG responded to the Murray’s legal row by stating, according to TMZ.com, that the mentioned contract was never signed by MJ or AEG, only by Murray, thus refusing to pay Murray the alleged 300 000$ due. Through a string of interviews, Michael’s entourage claimed they had never met Murray, nor knew who he was, nor was mentioned by Michael (including Frank DiLeo, Arnie Klein and Lou Ferrigno who trained MJ for his TII concerts). Though some tabloids reported that Murray greeted Michael’s family at the hospital, it seems they also were unaware of Murray’s existence till he was implicated in Michael’s death.
Last but not least, another official report on Murray’s identity that reiterates his birthdate as 1953 :
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Posted by TMZ.com, this was on the LA County Sherriff’s official website, when Murray was booked in February after his arraignement. It used to be apparently possibe to check out this info on the website, but I tried out the number on VineLink.com and on the LA County Sherriff’s website, in vain, no results showed up. Several hoaxsters posted a while ago on different forums that they had found, in March, through the search feature, the whole booking information :
Booking No.: 2222243 Last Name: MURRAY First Name: CONRAD Middle Name: ROBERT
Sex: M Race: B Date Of Birth: 02/19/1953 Age: 56 Hair: BRO Eyes: BRO Height: 605 Weight: 220
Charge Level:
ARREST
Arrest Date: 02/08/2010 Arrest Time: 1420 Arrest Agency: 4474 Agency Description: LASD – CSD AIRPORT LOCKUP
Date Booked: 02/08/2010 Time Booked: 1438 Booking Location: LAXL Location Description: CRT – AIRPORT BRANCH, LA MUNI LOCKU
BAIL
Total Bail Amount: 0 Total Hold Bail Amount: 0.00 Grand Total: 0.00
HOUSING LOCATION
Housing Location:
Permanent Housing Assigned Date: 02/08/2010 Assigned Time: 1513 Visitor Status: N
Facility:
Address: City:
Public Visiting Guidelines
For County facility visiting hours, Please call (213) 473-6080 at Inmate Information Center.
COURT
Next Court Code: S100 Next Court Date: 04/05/2010 Next Court Time: 0830 Next Court Case: SA07316401
Court Name: L A SUPERIOR COURT DEPT 100
Court Address: 210 W. TEMPLE STREET Court City: LOS ANGELESUPT
RELEASE
Actual Release Date: 02/25/2010 Release Time: 0715
Again, the 1953 birthdate seems to be confirmed. Also, Murray was apparently released more than 2 weeks after being booked, according to that information. Our investigative alarm seems to go off again.
So… what ? So, how in frickin’ hell was Murray able to register himself for medical license under a birthdate different than what was used in two legal proceedings he was involved in : that is being booked after the 2009 arraignement, which states his birthdate as 1953 also reiterated by both biographies found on his legal team’s website and an article on Biography.com, and his apparent 1994 arrest where he was supposed to be born in 1959. How does that happen ? They verify that info to a tee – not that it’s so hard, you just take the frickin’ ID document, read and copy. Something is rotten in Denmark. And that something solves it all.
We still don’t know how Murray came into Michael’s life. They couldn’t have “just met”. MJ is a world-famous musical icon – if he needs a doctor, for himself or his kids, he doesn’t sit down with a phonebook to peruse it in search for a random, inadequate cardiologist. That does not happen. He probably has a string of assistants to do the dirty work for him – I’m quite surprised that they wouldn’t run a background check on anyone who would enter his life in such significant manner, at least patient ratings – that, or Murray was introduced to Michael by someone he really trusted.
I’m also surprised that not one newspaper, not one journalist, cared to look further into Murray’s past and how he came into Michael’s life. Because we find out how Murray entered it, we find out who introduced him, where and when and the mystery is mostly solved by, among other things, helping us draw out conclusions on Murray’s intentions in regards to Michael, if they were benevolent or malicious. Now, it’s up to us to do that work. Anything can help. I was wondering myself what we could do ourselves to find out such info. I’m going to try calling the patients who were “kind” enough to divulge their phone numbers on Murray’s lawyer’s website, to see if Murray ever mentioned working or meeting MJ – you can too, all the information is here : http://houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com/dr-conrad-murray-current-friends-and-patients/

http://annatomyofahoax.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/conrad-murray-the-nowhere-man/
Thanks DI! :)

BUT..............


“Murray had first met Michael Jackson in 2006 when the singer, a frequent Vegas visitor, had contacted Dr Murray about treating one of his children for an unknown medical situation. Reports indicate that the two men soon became friends and, as Jackson began making plans for his upcoming concert tour, he hired Dr. Murray to be his personal physician for an astound 150 000$ a month”.
This is the story we know. But I still believe that Michael would call a Pediatrician.

As Michael and Murray met and who introduced them?????.... it is still soooooooooooo obscure to me. There is a big hole in that part of history. :unsure:


I’m also surprised that not one newspaper, not one journalist, cared to look further into Murray’s past and how he came into Michael’s life.
Me too!!!! If I lived in the United States, would be the first thing I would do: dissect the life of the Murray. Truth has to appear!
 
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so i guess MJ...hired Dr. Murray in May of 2009...and already knew him..i guess..
 
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so i guess MJ...hired Dr. Murray in May of 2009...and already knew him..i guess..


Klein said that MJ said that Joe introduced MJ to Murray in his TMZ interview. I just rewatched part of it again. Joe says he never knew Murray. I think someone said he met him thru the hotel, concierge doctor.
 
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Proof of Death Letter

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The Los Angeles County Coroner's Office provides what's called a Proof of Death letter. Many, if not all, coroner's offices in the United States, as well as many hospitals, will provide proof of death letters. Many insurance companies may request such a document when it comes to life insurance policies. Banks and other entities may request one as well after someone passes away. You do not have to be next of kin to request a proof of death letter.

This is the page at the Los Angeles County Coroner's website regarding Proof of Death letters: http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/prfdth.htm

On May 26th I filled out an email form at the LA Coroner's website inquiring Michael's proof of death letter. The next day, May 27th I received a response back. This is what the coroner's office told me:

You can order a Proof of Death Letter by sending a check or money order for $14.00 to Department of Coroner 1104 N Mission Rd L A CA 90033.

The next day I sent in a money order for $14 to the LA County Coroner's Office. Over a week later, June 7th to be exact, I received the proof of death letter in the mail. To be honest, I was a little surprised they sent it to me. I was shaking when I opened the envelope. I felt sick. There it was - Michael Jackson's Proof of Death letter. Signed by Marsha Grigsby from the coroner's office. It was her real signature - not a stamp of someone's signature.

I've taken a lot of pictures of this document that was sent to me. Check out the one's I have posted prior to this blog post.






Don't bother bringing up Joe vs Joseph. Do you have a copy of his birth certificate?
 
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The next day I sent in a money order for $14 to the LA County Coroner's Office. Over a week later, June 7th to be exact, I received the proof of death letter in the mail. To be honest, I was a little surprised they sent it to me. I was shaking when I opened the envelope. I felt sick. There it was - Michael Jackson's Proof of Death letter. Signed by Marsha Grigsby from the coroner's office. It was her real signature - not a stamp of someone's signature.
June 7? :scratch:


Really is very easy to get a death letter. :unsure:
 
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Don't bother bringing up Joe vs Joseph. Do you have a copy of his birth certificate?


Funny how this person brings that up...at the end! Shows there not even sure about it! Which brings it back to square one, don't it?! lol
 
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Funny how this person brings that up...at the end! Shows there not even sure about it! Which brings it back to square one, don't it?! lol

June 7? :scratch:


Really is very easy to get a death letter. :unsure:

People are claiming that this letter is fake because the seal has only 7 stars but its supposed to have 9.....thats right, the #7 again!
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A member from MJHD claims this:
Here's something else that doesn't make sense. I discovered Back on MJJC about 4 months ago - joined the forum to look at his posts, maybe logged in 3-4 times tops and NEVER posted myself. I was and still am totally convinced Back is MJ. It's why I don't investigate much anymore, and rarely post here now. On my last login about 4-5 weeks ago I sent a friend's request to Back, then forgot about it. Today I heard he'd posted again in June so logged in to check out what he wrote - only to discover I'd been banned for life. hehehe. Now THAT is interesting don't you think? Why ban a member just for sending a friend's request? Back wields a LOT of power over there if he can get a new member banned for nothing... I'll just Keep--Watchin!
 
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DI you make me dizzy lol, alive or not thx for all your hard work, you're really useful. :)
 
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As Michael and Murray met and who introduced them?????.... it is still soooooooooooo obscure to me. There is a big hole in that part of history. :unsure:

Yeh, I read that one of Michael's bodyguards suggested Murray when one of Michael's children was ill in Las Vegas.
 
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June 21.. did someone say something about that date?
 
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Okay today i received an email from a anonymous source asking me to post this email this source send to the british tabloid magazine The Sun… This is the real truth regarding Dave Dave.. I was asked to post the letter here..
To Whom It May Concern at the Sun,
I wish to keep my name anonymous at this time because I have information about Dave Dave, a former friend of mine.
After reading the Sun article the week of May 10, 2010 regarding the fans thinking Dave Dave is actually Michael Jackson in disguise, Dave Dave and I had a hard week that ultimately ruined our friendship.
On May 15, 2010 at 10:36 PM I received a text message from him stating he wanted to “talk” and asking me if I ” was home so he can call me.”
He called me and we got into a bit of a debate over what the attorney’s at the Jackson estate had told him that day regarding a lawsuit against the Sun….
When I called Dave to notify him that the Sun had published an article regarding him and a possible Michael Jackson hoax, he immediately tried finding a way to sue the SUN and gain more attention. I was more concerned about his safety at school, being mauled by fans of Michael’s, NOT because I think or know he is Michael, but for Dave’s own safety as I know he is not Michael.
There have been many emails and phone conversations between me and Dave since about December regarding his MySpace page, twitter and so on.
I have had a hard time with the fact that he knows there are hoax videos on YouTube so he plays with the minds of fans.
I have been on the phone with him countless amounts of times while he is reading comments and private messages from Michael’s fans while laughing at them and using curse words to describe how pathetic and stupid they are.
I asked him to stop playing with their heads and to stop posing as Michael if he was really Michael’s friend.
During the phone call on the 15th of May, the call became irrate on Dave’s part when he started yelling at me to shut my mouth because “If Michael’s fans are stupid enough to think I’m Michael, then let them do it.” I told him he needed to post a comment on his MySpace page telling them that he is NOT MJ and he refused, telling me that he doesn’t care to waste his time.
The attorney’s he spoke to for a possible lawsuit against the Sun’s May 10, 2010 article told him that day that they couldn’t sue the Sun because he was bringing this on himself by posing as Michael on his MySpace. That, coupled with the “third eye video” that he made , posing as a musician for a music MySpace account, and his “Michael-like” pictures and comments, makes it impossible for anyone to defend him.
I asked him myself why he has a MySpace Music account because he only has a drum machine and is not known as having any talent, other than knowing Michael Jackson, and his response was to scream at me. I have a recorded conversation of me talking to Dave while he was messing around with his drum machine and talking about posting it on his MySpace page.
He knew I was very much against his games on his MySpace and I was in his way.
He had left comments intentionally on his MySpace page from Michael’s fans asking if he is Michael, ignoring them, leaving room for them to believe he is Michael, while deleting my comments, ALL of them.
I would leave a comment such as “I hope you are feeling better today” and it would be deleted within 5 minutes. But he leaves the ones asking if he is Michael Jackson.
Dave is knowingly misleading Michael’s fans by posting headlines on his MySpace that say things such as
“The Man The Myth The Legend” and the day he found out about the SUN article, he posted a headline on his MySpace that said “Wanted Dead Or Alive” then tweeted the same thing and talked about the SUN article and also tweeted Randy Jackson to call him.
If the Jackson family is so close to Dave, then he should have no problem reaching them on the phone without tweeting a request publicly for one of them to call him.. The remarks he has made to me regarding the Jackson brothers are ones of pure jealousy and hatred…..
He also knows that the hoaxers on YouTube believe he was MJ in disguise on the LKL show and refuses to set them straight. The reason for this is because he looks important in Michael’s life so why would he be honest?
After getting to know Dave on a personal, friendship level, I believe he is unstable and possibly a sick twist.
I became very aware of how seriously desperate he is to take Michael’s place and attention around January 2010 when he told me that the topic was not up for discussion and became irrate when I would speak Michael’s name or talk about how much I love him. He sent me hate mail when I created an email account reflecting my love for Michael in May 2010.
Michael’s fans are dirt to Dave and calls them “FAKE”, he has told me that he “hates” Michael’s fans and wishes they would all shut the F*** up”
I believe his sole purpose of his MySpace page is for the misleading of the MJ fans and to gain the attention that he watched Michael have from childhood when Dave met him.
Although Dave’s tragic childhood upset me and many people very much, that was never good enough for him. He doesn’t want to be known as the little boy scarred by his abusive father who set him on fire and was rescued by Michael Jackson…He wants to be known as someone he is not…..A friend to Michael Jackson…calling himself “Michael’s best friend.”
It was always ok with Dave to talk about his “celebrity status with me, or his friendship with Michael or say things like “Look who I AM” but he knew I knew better than that. He plays the Michael Jackson card to his advantage and that is not a friend.
He knows he would have no name if it weren’t for Michael Jackson.
Out of all the children in this world who have been abused by their parents, raped by their fathers and tortured as a child and grew up wishing they had a chance to meet their hero Michael, for some reason, Michael chose Dave Dave…Dave made his own choice on how to handle that and the meaning to him was not to have appreciation and respect for Michael, but rather, to find hatred for other victims and Michael’s fans.
I also believe Dave is being far less than honest about how involved he has been with Michael J. as an adult.
There was a woman who left a comment on Dave’s MySpace in January asking him to make a phone call to a little boy who had been set on fire by his own father and Dave asked me to respond to her telling her he “Doesnt have time for that shit” and he never did it. I was shocked that Dave was not willing to pay forward what Michael did for him when he was in a burn unit as a child.
This letter is not intended to hurt Dave or cause him pain, it is intended for the purpose of revealing how I believe he has disrespected Michael, his fans, friends and family and to shed some light on the real man at www.myspace.com/daevdaev (Dave has spent many years trying to mimic Michael, he’s good at it online but awful at it in person)
I believe that what Dave has done and is doing now is eating at him but he doesn’t know how to stop.
I believe Michael would be/IS appalled at his behavior and attention seeking ways. Noone else that Dave knows will ever come forward with what they know of him, but I’m not afraid to do just that.
Sincerely,
anonymous source
http://mjl.lefora.com/


http://whataboutmj.wordpress.com/2010/06/13/the-real-dave-dave/
 
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