The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

I have a feeling Tomboy and Turning Me Off are going to be good ones. I don't know why, I've just got a feeling

It still amazes me how the best and most complete demos are from the Bad sessions, Mike was really focused and on form during the Bad era
I have the impression that Tomboy and Turning Me Off were more appreciated by MJ than by the collaborators!

Make Or Break having complete vocals is what excites me the most since it's one of the Bad era songs I've been looking forward to hearing the most, can't believe the estate is sleeping on those songs just like that. They oughta make Bad 40.
Yes I'm happy to finally have confirmation on Make Or Break! John Barnes liked him very much. I would love to hear this demo.

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I have the impression that Tomboy and Turning Me Off were more appreciated by MJ than by the collaborators!


Yes I'm happy to finally have confirmation on Make Or Break! John Barnes liked him very much. I would love to hear this demo.

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Make or break from that book it's not writing that he recorded verses so it's not finished
 
Make or break from that book it's not writing that he recorded verses so it's not finished
It says that he did a reference vocal which I assumed before it meant all MJ recorded were scratch vocals. I'm not sure if it's a scratch vocal given Joe Vogel now says that it's a complete vocal but at least it's confirmation that the song is in a releasable state.
 
It says that he did a reference vocal which I assumed before it meant all MJ recorded were scratch vocals. I'm not sure if it's a scratch vocal given Joe Vogel now says that it's a complete vocal but at least it's confirmation that the song is in a releasable state.
I wish that yes they told me Joe Vogel have song called Neverland landing
 
Make Or Break having complete vocals is what excites me the most since it's one of the Bad era songs I've been looking forward to hearing the most, can't believe the estate is sleeping on those songs just like that. They oughta make Bad 40.
No complete vocals on Make or Break

"Make or Break was a song written by Michael and Myself. It was never fully finished. There was a demo incomplete vocal. There is a partial lyric as well. It was the third piece of music I created using the Synclavier. I like its potential as a song." - John Barnes
 
Scratch vocal doesn't really mean it's mostly mumbled or whatever, just not final.
Yeah that's true but it wouldn't be considered complete if it's a scratch vocal, since it isn't final. The wording on the tweet is what confuses me.
No complete vocals on Make or Break

"Make or Break was a song written by Michael and Myself. It was never fully finished. There was a demo incomplete vocal. There is a partial lyric as well. It was the third piece of music I created using the Synclavier. I like its potential as a song." - John Barnes
Now this brings even more confusion lol. I still stand with the idea that what was recorded was a scratch vocal that's advanced enough to be releasable, similar to the demo of Streetwalker or Dream Away.
 
Yeah that's true but it wouldn't be considered complete if it's a scratch vocal, since it isn't final. The wording on the tweet is what confuses me.

Now this brings even more confusion lol. I still stand with the idea that what was recorded was a scratch vocal that's advanced enough to be releasable, similar to the demo of Streetwalker or Dream Away.
Might be mumbles....he did specify there's a partial lyric so I'd assume the partial lyric might be the chorus
 
Several songs Jackson recorded for Bad remain unreleased: “Bad Company,” “Broken Chair,” “Buffalo Bill,” “Crack Kills,” “Get Back on Me,” “The Hunt,” “Tomboy,” “What You Do to Me.” One song, “Cheater,” was released on 2004’s The Ultimate Collection.
 
Several songs Jackson recorded for Bad remain unreleased: “Bad Company,” “Broken Chair,” “Buffalo Bill,” “Crack Kills,” “Get Back on Me,” “The Hunt,” “Tomboy,” “What You Do to Me.” One song, “Cheater,” was released on 2004’s The Ultimate Collection.
Ask him something worthwhile instead of constantly pasting that quote. Ask him if Turning Me Off has full vocals since he says he's heard it, all we know about the vocals is that scratch vocals were recorded in 1986 but we don't know to what extent.
 
Ask him something worthwhile instead of constantly pasting that quote. Ask him if Turning Me Off has full vocals since he says he's heard it, all we know about the vocals is that scratch vocals were recorded in 1986 but we don't know to what extent.
Turning Me Off was allegedly one of the 24 tracks drafted for Xscape. We can see the 2" master in that docu about the production of the album.
That probably says what we want to know.
 
Turning Me Off was allegedly one of the 24 tracks drafted for Xscape. We can see the 2" master in that docu about the production of the album.
That probably says what we want to know.
It doesn't say a lot, I mean, Hollywood Tonight and Hot Fun In The Summertime don't have full vocals but they were still selected for album releases. It's still uncertain how complete the vocals are.
 
It doesn't say a lot, I mean, Hollywood Tonight and Hot Fun In The Summertime don't have full vocals but they were still selected for album releases. It's still uncertain how complete the vocals are.
True, but neither HT nor HF are scratch vocals in the sense of mumbling or making up lyrics as placeholders.
 
True, but neither HT nor HF are scratch vocals in the sense of mumbling or making up lyrics as placeholders.
Hollywood Tonight did have scratch vocals in some parts though, same for Behind The Mask with the cut mumbled verse in the demo and some of What A Lovely Way To Go. The estate doesn't always pick songs that are 100% vocally complete or that are around that level for album releases.
 
Hollywood Tonight did have scratch vocals in some parts though, same for Behind The Mask with the cut mumbled verse in the demo and some of What A Lovely Way To Go. The estate doesn't always pick songs that are 100% vocally complete or that are around that level for album releases.
I'm not sure about Behind The Mask. It was heavily considered for Thriller so I think there's a more complete version than the demo the estate threw on T40.
 
It doesn't say a lot, I mean, Hollywood Tonight and Hot Fun In The Summertime don't have full vocals but they were still selected for album releases. It's still uncertain how complete the vocals are.
Funny thing is, they haven't used the most complete version of HT (MJ adlibing on bridge/ David Williams guitar). In addition Teddy has changed the songs story.🤦‍♂️
 
Funny thing is, they haven't used the most complete version of HT (MJ adlibing on bridge/ David Williams guitar). In addition Teddy has changed the songs story.🤦‍♂️
You'd think they just picked a demo without even considering if it's the newest version, or something 😇
 
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