The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

[Eulonzo]

I wish he'd upload those songs as is instead of making those unnecessary mixes that no one asks for. It'd be great if he uploaded the 2008 demo of Best Of Joy instead of working himself up with a remix that he can't finish, fans deserve hear MJ's last completed song just the way he left it.

I imagine that he does that to avoid getting into legal trouble with the Estate.

He's already flying close to the sun by releasing any of this to begin with, remixed or not. If he were to upload any of these untouched, it wouldn't take long for his page(s) to be shut down. Deservingly so, I might add, given none of us own Michael's music.

Additionally, he's just not a musician or music producer. That's another reason his mixing is so poor.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

am I the only one

Nope, would love to hear it.

 

[Seldervi]

Do you mean this one? It doesn't really sound like the one Korg has posted. It's probably a different version.

Nope, it was wayyyy shorter & sounded almost nothing like "Don't Be Messin' Round". It was just speculated to be the Dangerous-era version of the song, especially since Korg used an image of Michael from that era (I believe from the filming of "Black or White"?)

 

[JustinC2002]

Nope, would love to hear it.

Me as well

 

[BlackAnon]

I wonder how this would've worked as an album

 

[JustinC2002]

I wonder how this would've worked as an album

Probably pretty well

 

[PanterA90]

I wonder how this would've worked as an album

Wtf is "Ask Renee" I've seen this title so many times before

 

[SMJJ777]

Wtf is "Ask Renee" I've seen this title so many times before

Instrumental. Though the title maybe a working title/note, it also refers to René Moore (the singer-songwriter producer).

 

[MJJ Leaks]

Instrumental. Though the title maybe a working title/note, it also refers to René Moore (the singer-songwriter producer).

American singer-songwriter Rene Moore

 

[SmoothMel7]

Wtf is "Ask Renee" I've seen this title so many times before

Instrumental. Though the title maybe a working title/note, it also refers to René Moore (the singer-songwriter producer).

There is also a similar title: "Ask DD". And in For The Record, it is indicated a title "Ask Her It" from the Dangerous period without further information.
According to Bill Botrell, "Ask Renee" might not be a song, that's what he thinks.

 

[Fuzball]

Bill Bottrell on X:

Planet Earth was an intro to Earth Song.
But was not used.
There's no sequel but maybe another song on the same subject. From History era. New York. (= N.Y. sessions)

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Bill Bottrell on X:

Planet Earth was an intro to Earth Song.
But was not used.
There's no sequel but maybe another song on the same subject. From History era. New York. (= N.Y. sessions)

I always knew it was. Nice that they implemented that in the Immortal Version.

 

[SmoothMel7]

Bill Bottrell on X:

Planet Earth was an intro to Earth Song.
But was not used.
There's no sequel but maybe another song on the same subject. From History era. New York. (= N.Y. sessions)

We have new information regarding a new unreleased song from the History period. I tried to dig to see if Bill Botrell participated in the song but he didn't respond. I'm not going to insist.

Link :

https://x.com/BillBottrell/status/1744087336621842530?s=20

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Pretty cool we got some new info from Bill recently.

 

[JustinC2002]

Bill Bottrell on X:

Planet Earth was an intro to Earth Song.
But was not used.
There's no sequel but maybe another song on the same subject. From History era. New York. (= N.Y. sessions)

Interesting

 

[knigofpop]

There is.

Korgnex's mix of the song might have been made out of that version since he mentioned that the mix wasn't made out of the versions from the Thriller/Bad era.

Who is 'MA' on the duet?

 

[Saka21]

Who is 'MA' on the duet?

Madonna, MJ had originally planned to sing In The Closet with her. Nothing recorded, as far as we know

 

[zinniabooklover]

Who is 'MA' on the duet?

I'm guessing Marsha Ambrosious?

EDIT - Nope, lol.

 

[zinniabooklover]

Madonna, MJ had originally planned to sing In The Closet with her. Nothing recorded, as far as we know

Oh I always forget about her.

Marsha Ambrosious would have been much later, wouldn't she?

 

[Saka21]

Oh I always forget about her.

Marsha Ambrosious would have been much later, wouldn't she?

Yeah, about a decade later if the list is from 1990/1991

 

[Fuzball]

I've always wondered why earth song wasn't on this list. I think it's now safe to say "planet earth" on this list is earth song.

 

[ChanceToDance]

There's no sequel but maybe another song on the same subject. From History era. New York. (= N.Y. sessions)

Interesting. Must be yet another title that we never heard of.

 

[Fuzball]

Interesting. Must be yet another title that we never heard of.

The song Bill was refering to may have been part of the now withdrawn auctioned multitrack tapes at GHRAR

 

[ChanceToDance]

I wonder how this would've worked as an album

It would've been DOA just by the fact that The Verdict is there lol

Honestly though it does make me curious how MJ had written "BGS" next to it, maybe MJ recorded vocals for that version?

 

[SeriousFX]

The song Bill was refering to may have been part of the now withdrawn auctioned multitrack tapes at GHRAR

Yeah. My theory is that he was referring to "Tears of Stone."

 

[SMJJ777]

It would've been DOA just by the fact that The Verdict is there lol

Honestly though it does make me curious how MJ had written "BGS" next to it, maybe MJ recorded vocals for that version?

He never recorded vocals for The Verdict, he was just thinking about it so he wrote BGVS next to it as in he wanted to record the BGVS for the song.

 

[BlackAnon]

It would've been DOA just by the fact that The Verdict is there lol

Honestly though it does make me curious how MJ had written "BGS" next to it, maybe MJ recorded vocals for that version?

I like Verdicts production…reminds me of Rhythm Nation.

Judging from the songs, the album would’ve been too long and I know Michael would’ve had the longest intros

 

[SMJJ777]

I like Verdicts production…reminds me of Rhythm Nation.

Yes, Verdict is the same thing as the "Work" demo by Janet. I guess Loren gave it to Michael after she didn't put it on Rhythm Nation.

 

[Seldervi]

Did "The Verdict" leak?

Edit: Ah, it's a HIStory-era version, didn't even know it was brought back for it.

 

[ChanceToDance]

He never recorded vocals for The Verdict, he was just thinking about it so he wrote BGVS next to it as in he wanted to record the BGVS for the song.

Okay that the HIStory version of The Verdict doesn't have vocals but it was discussed earlier in this thread how almost all of the songs reworked for HIStory had been restarted from scratch, so just because the HIStory era version wasn't recorded it doesn't necessarily mean that the Dangerous version wasn't recorded either, since the former is a completely new track instead of it being an older track that was just being expanded upon. It's possible that MJ did get around to recording those background vocals or perhaps even a scratch vocal.