[ Pretrial Discussion Closed ] AEG files summary judgment motion to dismiss Katherine's lawsuit

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Ivy or anyone else know why LA County is listed as real party in interest? What LA County has got to do with this at all?
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maybe claim off AEG for memorial costs if aeg are found liable.although they have already been paid so im just guessing here!!.

lol at the 40 bill comment. i guess kjs lawyers arent that good at maths!
 
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maybe claim off AEG for memorial costs if aeg are found liable.although they have already been paid so im just guessing here!!.

lol at the 40 bill comment. i guess kjs lawyers arent that good at maths!

This is not the first time Katherine's lawyers are caught misrepresenting the facts. Now I know they really knew that Randy leaked the e-mails. In fact, I think using the word misrepresenting is too mild, and lying is a better word. They forget that all these documents, interviews, conversations are now recorded and the internet allows many to keep records.
 
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You forgot the part about the gloves. Don't forget that after he injected himself, he took the gloves off his hand, hid it, returned to bed and died. That is why his fingerprints were not found--he used the Billie Jean glove. Wass certainly needs to look at the evidence from the Muarry trial rather than spend time on facebook.

:D

She is trying to muddy the waters with nonsense.
 
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Everybody has opinion who hired CM, including Mike Garcia, former bodyguard:

BANFIELD: Michael Jackson was one of the most scrutinized superstars ever to grace a stage. He was under the microscope for most of his life. And he remains so nearly four years after his death. In California court, his mom and kids are going after the people who promoted his final concert tour alleging that they are ultimately responsible for his death. You can get to know a guy pretty well if you're with him 24/7. And one of Jackson's body guards, Mike Garcia, was just that, always around the king of pop.

Mike, thanks for be being with us.

The key to this trial is just who employed Dr. Conrad Murray. Was it in fact Michael Jackson who was his boss? Or was it AEG, the company behind the concert? As an employee of Mr. Jackson's and as someone who was around him all the time, was he capable of employing any one, hiring, firing?

MIKE GARCIA, FORMER MICHAEL JACKSON BODY GUARD: It's good to see you again Ms. Banfield.

From what I've seen in the way he dealt with us, he never handled any of his business directly. So on the side of if he was directly employed by Mr. Jackson, Mr. Jackson employed him directly, and I don't see that happening.

BANFIELD: How was it for you? You worked with him. You were there with him, his kids, in his house, outside his house. You saw their day to day. But at the same time you had your issues, just functioning as a paid employee.

GARCIA: Right, we didn't get paid for several months. He wasn't in charge of his own business. To say that Mr. Jackson employed him it directly, I don't think that was the case.

BANFIELD: So that would speak very well to AEG's case, because they say they weren't the guys who had hired Conrad Murray, or doesn't speak to his case, sorry. One of the things that AEG does say is that Michael Jackson was so affected by all of the civil trials he went through in the it pedophile allegations three was a wreck, that he was drug addled and an insomniac who needed treatment and he was responsible for his own death because of going through all that. What were his nights like?

GARCIA: Well, definitely, you know, there was a situation that was going on. But I think that the fact that, you know, when you're in the care of a doctor and the doctor's taking care of you, and at the end of the day, who's paying the doctor, which I, from what I've learned is that it was AEG. Once the doctor signed the contract of being that doctor, he's in full responsibility.

BANFIELD: So what about the nights though? Is what AEG says true about just the notion that this was an insomniac? Did you see him up in the night wandering, those kinds of things?

GARCIA: We have his times when he would be up at night, but you've got to understand it can be kind of boring being in the House all the time or being inside the hotel. So I think being up at any hour of the day is irrelevant. It's not necessarily something important to look at. I mean, he did live in kind of a closed world, so him being up at 4:00 in the morning or singing or practicing, you know, that's not uncommon.

BANFIELD: What about his life with his kids? What kind of dad was he? Did you see --

(CROSSTALK)

GARCIA: Fantastic.

BANFIELD: Was he the same? Did he do things the way most parents do?

GARCIA: He did above and beyond. He was very huge on their education. Always quizzed them. If we went to go see Imax videos and things like that he would quiz the kids. I remember being in Virginia. We had our food catered to us. He didn't want the breakfast catered to the house because he wanted to make the children breakfast every single morning. You're talking about a guy who's very hands on with three children.

BANFIELD: You liked him, right, as your boss?

GARCIA: Absolutely. Absolutely.

BANFIELD: And must be watching their case very closely, Mike. GARCIA: Yes. You know, having the conversations of him passing, it's incredible to see how, what this guy was doing for the world and how he felt for his fans and things leak that. It's very, it's a shame, you know, it's a shame that somebody like that is not with us anymore. He, and he treated us with the utmost respect. For us that was very pleasant to see because we weren't getting paid and things like that. So I was very hands on. He would make the calls for us to get paid. So with him treating us and asking about our families and very personable with us, we appreciated that.

BANFIELD: I hope we talk again. They're in jury selection now. Nice to see you again.

GARCIA: Thanks, Ms. Banfield.

BANFIELD: We encourage you to watch the "Michael Jackson, Final Days" documentary. Coming Friday night at 10:00 eastern on CNN.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1304/04/cnr.06.html
 
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@wingheart If it's not too personal of a question, but do u agree with the fight against aeg? Or do u not feel them to blame? in ur opinion.


Karen Faye ?@wingheart 8h

I need listen to all the facts from both sides before I could answer that
 
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Karen Faye ?@wingheart 8h

I need listen to all the facts from both sides before I could answer that

Hold up!

Is homegirl CHANGING her story now? I mean, I always thought that for her AEG were the "bad" guys. Wasn't that her platform in the beginning?
 
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MIKE GARCIA, FORMER MICHAEL JACKSON BODY GUARD: From what I've seen in the way he dealt with us, he never handled any of his business directly. So on the side of if he was directly employed by Mr. Jackson, Mr. Jackson employed him directly, and I don't see that happening.

Mr. Garcia sounds a bit ill-informed, in my opinion.

Hiring a bodyguard is one thing, and hiring a doctor is something completely different, especially if that doctor will also be treating your children.

That being said, Mr. Garcia must not know that Michael and Murray had a doctor/patient relationship before AEG came into the picture and it was Michael, himself, who said they should offer Murray$150,000.00 per month.

It's not like AEG randomly plucked Murray from a street corner and said "Here Michael, this will now be your doctor."
 
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maybe claim off AEG for memorial costs if aeg are found liable.although they have already been paid so im just guessing here!!.

lol at the 40 bill comment. i guess kjs lawyers arent that good at maths!

I'm apparently not good at math either. In the pic that Ivy posted it says they are asking for in excess of 50 million for general damages and in excess of 10 billion in specific damages. How does that add up to 40 billion?
 
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I'm apparently not good at math either. In the pic that Ivy posted it says they are asking for in excess of 50 million for general damages and in excess of 10 billion in specific damages. How does that add up to 40 billion?

It's on there, the special whatsit $10 billion a apiece. It's the second figure on there under the million figures.
 
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It's on there, the special whatsit $10 billion a apiece. It's the second figure on there under the million figures.

Thanks! I missed that.
 
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I wonder.... what are the chances of Katherine win this case? :unsure: What do you think? :fear:

I don't know. Given what we already know regarding the case I don't think she should, however, I think a jury may take KJ side with the sympathy vote, especially hearing her grief and the grief of the children. But we haven't heard any testimony yet so it's probably too early to say.
 
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@wingheart If it's not too personal of a question, but do u agree with the fight against aeg? Or do u not feel them to blame? in ur opinion.


Karen Faye ?@wingheart 8h

I need listen to all the facts from both sides before I could answer that

She got some heat earlier this week because she was accusing Frank D, and Frank's daughter called her out, so I guess she is back-pedalling now:doh:


@belindadileo Hey Belinda, what is your thoughts on @wingheart blaming your uncle for MJ's death too? I only think it's right that you or your family have the choice to respond, since your uncle issue here to refute or confirm.

She only got pissed off because someone posted her tweets to Belinda. Serves her right to be called out.
 
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Ivy or anyone else know why LA County is listed as real party in interest? What LA County has got to do with this at all?
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COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES - Real Party in Interest

didn't walgren asked for the stay of the case pending criminal trial? or it got something to do with police investigation reports and/or coroner's reports

I'm apparently not good at math either. In the pic that Ivy posted it says they are asking for in excess of 50 million for general damages and in excess of 10 billion in specific damages. How does that add up to 40 billion?

It's on there, the special whatsit $10 billion a apiece. It's the second figure on there under the million figures.

I posted 4 damages forms, one of each of plaintiffs - Katherine, Prince, Paris and Blanket. Each form lists 50 million for general damages and in excess of 10 billion in specific damages. so add 50 million for general damages and in excess of 10 billion in specific damages on 4 forms you get in excess of $40.2 Billion.
 
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She got some heat earlier this week because she was accusing Frank D, and Frank's daughter called her out, so I guess she is back-pedalling now:doh:


@belindadileo Hey Belinda, what is your thoughts on @wingheart blaming your uncle for MJ's death too? I only think it's right that you or your family have the choice to respond, since your uncle issue here to refute or confirm.

She only got pissed off because someone posted her tweets to Belinda. Serves her right to be called out.

Thanks for posting Bubs.

Man Oh Man, Karen appears to get spooked very easily. I mean, if she was speaking the truth and her claims are truthful, why would she back down. If she were telling the truth, she would just forge ahead.

Reminds me of when she was "supposed" to testify at Murray's trial. She was all big talk until it came time for her to actually appear. We all saw what happened there, she was a NO SHOW!

When a person tends to fib or stretch the truth, I can understand them not wanting to take the witness stand. Direct is one thing, but that dang CROSS-EXAMINATION can be real hard when you're a fibber. LOL!
 
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^^ The only truth she has, is the one Randy Jackson gave her, and now she is starting to see the light (I hope):)
 
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The four damage forms are requests for damages if the defendants lose their case; not demands.
 
Re: Randy Phillips ADMITS AEG hired Conrad Murray!

Sorry, I'm not getting that. Where is that information exactly, because what I do hear repeadedly is that Michael insisted on having Conrad Murray by his side and AEG would have liked Michael to have a doctor "on-call" in London. But Michael was adamant that Murray continue to be his personal physician on his tour.

On a side note: Using the "No Longer An Attorney" Oxman in this piece takes away some of it's credibility, in my opinion. Relying on an attorney who is DISBARRED = NOT GOOD!
 
Re: Randy Phillips ADMITS AEG hired Conrad Murray!

^ looks like you havent seen it to the very end? He said ''so we hired him''.
 
Re: Randy Phillips ADMITS AEG hired Conrad Murray!

Yeah and too bad they never signed the contract
 
Re: Randy Phillips ADMITS AEG hired Conrad Murray!

Very dramatic headline. All I hear is Michael insisted on Murray so they wrote up the contracts.
 
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and approved of CM and that they would DEDUCT what they pay CM from MJ's payout. That's what MJ agreed to.
However, there was NO agreement whatsoever between MJ and CM.

The contract for the Dancers, Musicians, Lighting Crew, etc, probably ALL had that same clause below MJ's signature, but they were still employed/retained by AEG.

would be good to know if the dancers, crew, etc. did in fact have the same clause as was in the CM contract. Were the dancers, crew, etc. also considered "independent contractors"???
 
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Michael was still a magnet, despite the allegations. And AEG makes a mistake when they argue now he was a fallen star. They contradict himself. And stuff like that makes a bad impression on the jury. Kathrine's lawyers just have to take the testimony under oath of Philipps from the criminal trial where Philpps told what a genius Michael was, that Michael Jackson is the only star able to sell out 50 concerts that he tried to hire him years ago and Gongoware told how many people was in the pipeline and aren`t able to get tickets.

Yes, but all AEG has to show is declining sales of MJ's music over the years--from the days where the records were selling like the proverbial 'hotcakes' to the days where his music was considered over and done. After his death, there was a resurgence of interest. Looking at objective sales figures will tell a tale of decline in interest.
 
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The four damage forms are requests for damages if the defendants lose their case; not demands.

Did they request $40.2 Billion or not? Is KJ's lawyer playing with semantics in your opinion "we did not demand it, we requested it".
 
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This is a negligent hiring claim, correct me if I'm wrong but it's not a hiring claim, it's whether Murray was hired negligently.
 
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Yes, but all AEG has to show is declining sales of MJ's music over the years--from the days where the records were selling like the proverbial 'hotcakes' to the days where his music was considered over and done. After his death, there was a resurgence of interest. Looking at objective sales figures will tell a tale of decline in interest.

You can really not say that his music was done. Thriller 25 was Catalog-Album 1 in 2008 and a worldwide sucess, in many countries Number 1 in regular charts. Sorry and you can`t it compare it with the situation after his death. The album-sales of artist are always better in the time after the death and of course in Michaels case not to compare with other artists. It`s MJ.
 
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You can really not say that his music was done. Thriller 25 was Catalog-Album 1 in 2008 and a worldwide sucess, in many countries Number 1 in regular charts. Sorry and you can`t it compare with the situation after his death. The album-sales of artist are always better and of course in Michaels case not to compare with other artists. It`s MJ.

I just knew when I wrote that that I was going to get a comment on the "his music was considered over and done" expression. Of course, I don't think that at all, but my point is that sales declined--not that his music was REALLY over and done (not at all), but that the allegations, the controversy, people still thinking he was guilty, etc, tarnished his sales and his reputation. Music critics and journalists regularly bashed him. I think whatever opinion you have this is indisputable.

IMO AEG will present statistics re declining sales during his last years. Do you think they won't?
 
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I just want to express my fear that in case KJ wins a larger than life sum of money it might happen that Cubs will be getting more money than Michael earned in his entire life and they would be getting it by doing nothing but having a brother that died. Michael had to work his *** off for 40 years!!! The only damages should be paid to PPB, anything else will be a disgrace!!!
 
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