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I dread the day when Murray gets out and goes after that first deal to make money. He will blame Michael and trash him and the family have no right to complain. They probably won't anyway. They never show outrage about something unless money is a factor. It's just cold.
 
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marebear said:
I dread the day when Murray gets out and goes after that first deal to make money. He will blame Michael and trash him and the family have no right to complain. They probably won't anyway. They never show outrage about something unless money is a factor. It's just cold.
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Why would they mind him doing it when they make such a habit of doing it themselves? If anything, they'll probably sympathize. I hate to talk in such a manner about people whom I don't personally know, but c'mon..... There is simply no way on this green Earth you could paint the things they do in any other way. They are as greedy as the sun is bright, and nobody, not even their intimates, can objectively deny this.

And I think people who like to think the best of them in some way or give them the benefit of the doubt are either unacquainted with the way they are and/or are naive due to their own nobility and goodness [in that they could not fathom doing such things themselves, so they could not believe it of most others], or they are cut from the same cloth as they are.
 
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jaydom7 said:
Katherine should have taken care of her son and then she wouldn't be going through all these lawsuits.
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I dont get where you are coming from at all with that statement. I dont think Catherine Joe, the siblings AEG or anyone had control to take care of Michael in regard to his sleeping rituals regardless where anyone stands on this issue. He didn't want taken care of, he was a grown man, he was not an idiot nor did he need his Mommy to take care of him like he was incompetent. You keep saying that, so can you clarify what you mean by it? Maybe I'm missing something. Why do you keep trying to place the blame on Katherine for what happened to Michael. Realistically, what do you think she could have done to stop or change what happened the night of June 25th.
 
Last Tear, seems your questions to me were answered in my absence. That's not what I would have said or have said but, that's fine.

More facts: Not EVERY Simpson interview was paid. We already discussed the reason the book was published instead of silenced. The Rolex the Goldmans wanted as payment in their wrongful death judgment was deemed fake. It was given back to Simpson because it was exempt from the judgment due to the low monetary value. Simpson was eventually convicted of robbery (among other things) of sport memorabilia which included his own items. There was no proof he would resell those items; the memorabilia dealers he stole it from was going to sell them. If Goldman somehow related that conviction to his damages, that is his opinion.

Simpson did not get much public support even though he was not convicted of double murders. The doctor will only be sought after by the media if there is a profit for them which will come from public demand. The doctor would still be allowed to grant free interview (like he did before conviction and as Simpson has done) whether the Jacksons’ accepted restitution or not.

I STILL do not see how this convicted doctor will somehow garner enough public support for him to amass a fortune, a profit, anything but, if others see that as a possibility, that is fine. I will not be hanging on his every word when he is released. If others will be waiting to hear what he has to say about anything and everything and nothing, that is fine too.
 
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Dr Murray will be paid in the millions for his first exclusive interview .. The media will be clamoring for that because it will sell. People want to know what he has to say. whether right or wrong, that's human nature. Then there WILL be a book which he probably is writing right now to pass the time. He will be also paid in the Millions for publishing rights to his book. During all his appearances to sell his book he will be able to spin and say anything he want's and their will be people sympathizing with him and believing him.The media will have a feild day belittleing Michael because of his betrayal and lies. If the Jackson's had a lean on any profit he could make. That would at least make it less desirable for him to be doing it. He would not profit from it, because it would go to Jackson's Children first. Now it will be very profitable for him. He can go full speed . make lots of money and trash Michael and of course the Jackson's in the process. He was the only killer. The Jackson's trading off making Murray pay restitution for his crime, in order to go after a company who wasn't involved in that "crime", just for the sake of more Money, shows where their loyalty lies .... and it isn't for Michael or justice for Michael..

There is will be no justice for Michael served with this case, because no one else can be found responsible for his death with this case and regardless of who wins, Murray is allowed to profit and Michael will be thrown to the wolves. His intentions will be lied about,he will be portrayed as a drug addict etc etc in order to win (Money not Justice) and he will be portrayed as a has been by AEG, in order to lower the ridiculous 40 Billion claim against them. Once again Michael is exploited, his reputation tainted, all for the love of Money. I see no justice in that. There will be no justice for Michael, No matter who wins this case. It is all at Michael's expense and Murray Michael's only killer will be profiting and living the good life because of this case. "You'll do anything for money, Anything Anything, Would lie for it, Would die for it, Even sell my soul to the devil" ...
 
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Los Angeles (CNN) -- Dr. Conrad Murray, who was Michael Jackson's personal physician, is refusing to testify in the wrongful death lawsuit that the singer's mother filed against concert promoter AEG Live.

If called, he will plead the fifth so as not to incriminate himself, the doctor said in a statement sent to the Jackson family.
Murray has never been questioned under oath about Jackson's death, which occurred on his watch.

He did not testify at his trial, where he was found guilty of causing Jackson's death on June 25, 2009, by administering a deadly overdose of sedatives and the surgical anesthetic propofol in what he told police was an attempt to cure the singer's insomnia.
He is serving a four-year sentence but could be out in two.

On Monday, he was supposed to be deposed in the wrongful death suit.
But lawyers for Jackson's mother, Katherine, and her three children called off their jailhouse visit because Murray swore "he would not answer any questions at the deposition or the trial," Jackson lawyer Kevin Boyle told CNN. He said the Jackson case would not suffer without his testimony.

AEG's lawyer suggests the Jacksons canceled Murray's deposition because his testimony would "destroy" their case.
"They are not interested in the truth," said the lawyer, Marvin Putnam.

Asserting his 'Fifth Amendment privilege'
The cancellation came after Murray's attorney Valerie Wass sent the Jacksons a sworn statement signed by Murray making it clear he would not answer any questions while his involuntary manslaughter conviction in Michael Jackson's death is being appealed.
"Accordingly, if I am called or ordered to testify at deposition or trial in the Katherine Jackson vs AEG wrongful death case, I will be asserting my Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination and refuse to answer any questions," Murray's declaration said.
Jury selection in the civil trial is set to begin April 2 in a Los Angeles County court.

Prince Jackson, the pop star's oldest son, is expected to testify about his father's last days.

Jacksons: Focus back on AEG
The Jackson lawsuit contends that AEG Live is responsible for Jackson's death because it hired and supervised Dr. Murray, who was administering the surgical anesthetic propofol to Jackson each night for a month to induce sleep as he prepared for a series of concerts organized by AEG Live.

A jury found Dr. Murray guilty of involuntary manslaughter after hearing testimony that he violated medical standards in his treatment of Jackson.

"Dr. Murray's choice to keep quiet puts the focus back on the company, AEG, that hired Dr. Murray and agreed to pay him over $1.5 million a year, and provide Murray with a large house and drivers and other perks, to make sure that the company's biggest asset, Michael Jackson, made it to the shows on time, no matter what," Boyle, the Jacksons' lawyer said.

A judge ruled last month that Jackson lawyers could question Murray at the Los Angeles County jail, where he is serving his prison sentence.

AEG: Testimony destroys Jacksons' claim
"The Jacksons told the world that they wanted Dr. Murray's deposition, and then when the Court gave it to them, they canceled it," Putnam, the AEG lawyer, told CNN on Sunday.

"They have had all of their claims dismissed except negligent hiring, and they don't want Dr. Murray to be deposed because he will tell them what he already told the police: that he worked for Michael Jackson; that Michael Jackson, not AEG, was his employer; and that Michael Jackson personally invited him to join the 'This is It' tour long before anyone at AEG had even heard of him. The Jacksons canceled the deposition because that testimony destroys the only claim they have left. They are not interested in the truth."

Back and forth
The Jacksons' lawyer argued, in response to Putnam's comment, that AEG was not interested in having Murray take the stand in the trial.

"AEG did not even try to get Dr. Murray to talk," Boyle said. "AEG is simply not telling the truth. AEG can't run from the fact that they hired the man who is in jail for killing the greatest entertainer the world has ever known."

Wass, who unsuccessfully objected to the deposition, said she advised Murray to invoke his Fifth Amendment right to not answer questions because of his appeal. The appeal brief is expected to be filed next week.

Jacksons plan to use e-mails
Jackson died two weeks before his "This Is It" comeback concerts, organized by AEG Live, were to have debuted in London in the summer of 2009.

E-mails the Jackson's plan to use in their case suggested that the promoter was worried about Jackson's missed rehearsals and they sought Murray's help in getting him ready.

Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson and their grandmother contend that AEG Live's pressure on Murray to have Jackson ready for daily rehearsals despite his fragile health led to his death from the propofol overdose.

A cornerstone of the Jacksons' case is an e-mail AEG Live co-CEO Paul Gongaware wrote 11 days before Jackson's death.
The e-mail to show director Kenny Ortega addressed concerns that Murray had kept Jackson from a rehearsal the day before: "We want to remind (Murray) that it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary. We want to remind him what is expected of him."

Jackson lawyers, calling it a "smoking gun," argue the e-mail is evidence that AEG Live used Murray's fear of losing his $150,000-a-month job as Jackson's personal physician to pressure him to have Jackson ready for rehearsals despite his fragile health.

Billions at stake
The lawsuit seeks a judgment against AEG Live equal to the money Jackson would have earned over the course of his remaining lifetime if he had not died.

If AEG Live is found liable, it could cost the company several billion dollars, according to estimates of Jackson's income potential.
AEG Live is a subsidiary of AEG, a global entertainment company that was recently for sale with an $8 billion asking price.

The company announced last week it was no longer for sale.





http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/18/showbiz/murray-michael-jackson-lawsuit/?hpt=hp_t3
 
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LastTear said:
@Tygger Do you honestly think that the media would not pay Murray to dish the dirt on the most private and personal interactions he had with Michael? Perhaps he has more recordings or god forbid photographs of Michael whilst he was in a Murray induced coma!

But let me ask you another question, and perhaps the most important one. Do you think it's right or just that Murray should PROFIT in any way from the man he killed?
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When he is released from jail, he will breath easy, unlike OJ.
Whenever and at any means he makes money, he will breath easy because all the money he makes, goes to his own pocket.
Once he is released from jail, he can go on with his life with no worries at all, thanks to Jacksons.

What stopped Jackson asking at least some nominal amount of money from CM? It didn't have to be 105 million, it could have been 10 million and that would have been reduced from the amount they are asking from AEG?
10 million would have been amount CM would have never made and it would have made his life miserable.
 
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"They are not interested in the truth," said the lawyer, Marvin Putnam.

I'm going to have to agree with him.
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"Dr. Murray's choice to keep quiet puts the focus back on the company, AEG, that hired Dr. Murray and agreed to pay him over $1.5 million a year, and provide Murray with a large house and drivers and other perks, to make sure that the company's biggest asset, Michael Jackson, made it to the shows on time, no matter what," Boyle, the Jacksons' lawyer said.

AEG has witness to prove that AEG agreed to pay CM at MJ's request, and MJ wanted CM. As for house and other perks, can anyone really say AEG was paying those if they were to be taken from MJ profits?

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AEG: Testimony destroys Jacksons' claim
"The Jacksons told the world that they wanted Dr. Murray's deposition, and then when the Court gave it to them, they canceled it," Putnam, the AEG lawyer, told CNN on Sunday.

I wonder where he bases his claim that Jackson's cancelled it if CM refuses to testify?
Does he know more than Alan Duke writes in his post?
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"They have had all of their claims dismissed except negligent hiring, and they don't want Dr. Murray to be deposed because he will tell them what he already told the police: that he worked for Michael Jackson; that Michael Jackson, not AEG, was his employer; and that Michael Jackson personally invited him to join the 'This is It' tour long before anyone at AEG had even heard of him. The Jacksons canceled the deposition because that testimony destroys the only claim they have left. They are not interested in the truth."

Again he says Jackson's cancelled deposition? Interesting.

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"AEG did not even try to get Dr. Murray to talk," Boyle said. "AEG is simply not telling the truth. AEG can't run from the fact that they hired the man who is in jail for killing the greatest entertainer the world has ever known."

Boyle is going ahead of himself, the trial will decides whether AEG hired CM.

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A cornerstone of the Jacksons' case is an e-mail AEG Live co-CEO Paul Gongaware wrote 11 days before Jackson's death.
The e-mail to show director Kenny Ortega addressed concerns that Murray had kept Jackson from a rehearsal the day before: "We want to remind (Murray) that it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary. We want to remind him what is expected of him."

I would like to see the whole email chain, and if CM was one of the recipients? "We want to remind him" does sound like he was part of email recipients. Also, did they talk to CM and told him that or was it just Gonga blowing hot air?
If CM wasn't one of the recipients, how Jackson's are going to claim that AEG put the pressure on CM and CM did what he did in fear of losing his job, if he wasn't aware of that email?
 
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Tygger said:
Last Tear, seems your questions to me were answered in my absence. That's not what I would have said or have said but, that's fine. o.
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It was actually your answer I was interested in hearing :)

Also, of course Michael's fans would not support CM and his future project, but..... he will still profit, I believe the general public will be interested in the dirt about Michael, and don't forget that whatever he does he, and whoever is backing him, will receive a lot of free publicity from MJ fans who will be up in arms.

I agree with you that not profiting from an interview will not necessarily stop him from giving one, and it will be unbearable for us but him profiting from it really twists the knife. It is wrong on every level that a person can cause someone's death and turn around and make money.
 
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Can the judge force murrary to testify and offer him Immunity. The Truth and nothing but the Truth.
 
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bubs, seems to me like a bit of P.R from putnam saying that the jacksons cancelled the depo.. thats very different to saying murray has told them he will taken the fifth. maybe the jacksons then cancelled it after they got murrays letter. because theres not much point if hes gonna take the fifth on every question.

boyle is pathetic. u can tell its all about the money when he says the greatest entertianer ever. thats all it is about to them. not the brother the father the son! and why would AEG even want to talk to murray. the jacksons were the ones who wanted a depo of him. now boyles turns it around and tries to blame AEG. what is he a ten year old?


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^Oh dear.

Sometimes we should not beat a dead horse by trying to explain the same thing in 20 different ways. If there is still no understanding after one uses clear examples, then it means the person is not open to it. I say Ride On, or that phrase Michael screams out at the end of Dirty Diana.
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i dont think theres much point going around in circles. some will try to defend,excuse and justify the jacksons actions regardless of the facts
 
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On Monday, he was supposed to be deposed in the wrongful death suit.
But lawyers for Jackson's mother, Katherine, and her three children called off their jailhouse visit because Murray swore "he would not answer any questions at the deposition or the trial," Jackson lawyer Kevin Boyle told CNN. He said the Jackson case would not suffer without his testimony.

I find the last sentence very interesting, in other words nothing he would say would HELP the Jacksons case.

 
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elusive moonwalker said:
boyle is pathetic. u can tell its all about the money when he says the greatest entertianer ever. thats all it is about to them. not the brother the father the son! and why would AEG even want to talk to murray. the jacksons were the ones who wanted a depo of him. now boyles turns it around and tries to blame AEG. what is he a ten year old?
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For Katherine to reputedly have some of the best lawyers in the industry, her lawyers have seldom impressed. I'll never forget the statement one of them read at Murray's trial, saying MJ's children had lost a playmate. Made MJ sound like a buddy instead of their whole world.
 
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marc_vivien said:
Los Angeles (CNN) -- Dr. Conrad Murray, who was Michael Jackson's personal physician, is refusing to testify in the wrongful death lawsuit that the singer's mother filed against concert promoter AEG Live.
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I figured that clown would end up "Pleading The Fifth" and said as much a while back.

One thing this NEW development does do, in my opinion, is UP the dollar figure on any interview and/or book deal that may come down the pike once he's released from jail.

In my further opinion, the media would have dissected any deposition he may have given, but now they won't have that opportunity. Which means, to me, that they will be clamoring to hear what he has to say once he's released.

Not sitting down for this depostion, just sweetened his pot of gold, as far as I'm concerned. THANKS JACKSONS!!!!!!
 
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technically Murray just notified them of his intent to plead the 5th, they could have still done the deposition by still asking him the questions and trying to get him answer and even ask the judge to force him to answer. It seems they decided not to do that - hence "jacksons cancelled the deposition"
 
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Ok they were the ones who called it off, makes it even more silly for their lawyer to cry about how AEG did not talk to Murray
 
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Why would AEG want to talk to Murray? Everything he said on his police interview helps them.

Go back to Murray's police interview. He says he knows Michael for a long time, he says he was working for Michael but being paid by AEG, he mentions Michael knew milk and antiburn and he says Michael asked for Propofol and that's why he gave it to him. Murray also claims that nothing he did , killed Michael.

So Murray's words translates into not being hired by AEG and not being responsible for Michael's death , that equals AEG not being responsible as well. AEG got everything they need from Murray.
 
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marc_vivien said:
Los Angeles (CNN)

A cornerstone of the Jacksons' case is an e-mail AEG Live co-CEO Paul Gongaware wrote 11 days before Jackson's death.

The e-mail to show director Kenny Ortega addressed concerns that Murray had kept Jackson from a rehearsal the day before: "We want to remind (Murray) that it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary. We want to remind him what is expected of him."
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As much as you can never predict what a jury will do, I really thought this case would be a slam dunk for AEG. I think they'll win on who hired Murray, but that Gongaware statement could sway a jury into buying into the effect his words might have had on Murray.

Sadly, this thing really could go either way (even though not remotely to $40 billion.)
 
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Can AEG use the police interview if Murray is not a witness?

The more I think about it I am so surprised that this case is going ahead.
 
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yes they can use the police interview

Also don't forget that Phillips, Gongaware, Ortega and the rest are also knowledgeable about their interactions with Murray and can testify for themselves. It's the Jacksons that need Murray to confirm or challenge what these people testify.

For example Ortega testified that Murray told him to mind his own business and not be a doctor. Assuming that the rest of the AEG people will also say that, Murray is the only person that can confirm or challenge Ortega's testimony.
 
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gerryevans said:
As much as you can never predict what a jury will do, I really thought this case would be a slam dunk for AEG. I think they'll win on who hired Murray, but that Gongaware statement could sway a jury into buying into the effect his words might have had on Murray.
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I agree as far as "you can never predict what a jury will do," but as a person who has sat on many juries in my day, one thing I would definitely be looking for is at least one of the following words to appear in those AEG emails:

Propofol, Diprivan, Sleeping Issue.

Nowhere in those emails does it appear that AEG is "advising and/or instrucing" Murray as to what TREATMENT he should be giving Michael.

To my knowledge (I could be wrong here), they never even bring up any possible Sleeping Issue. They are mostly just talking about keeping Michael HEALTHY.

On a side note: Mother (and Randy) have lost a bunch of their initial claims. Now they have lost Murray. They must be good and pissed.

If you hear a loud THUD, it's probably the sound of Randy Jackson fainting.
 
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I was not surprised that Murray would take the Fifth. He wants to have his conviction overturned so he can have a chance at getting his medical license back. He doesn't want a medical practice in some deadbeat place (with low rent strippers and cocktail waitresses), he wants to stay in the big markets.
 
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Big Apple2 said:
Nowhere in those emails does it appear that AEG is "advising and/or instrucing" Murray as to what TREATMENT he should be giving Michael.

To my knowledge (I could be wrong here), they never even bring up any possible Sleeping Issue. They are mostly just talking about keeping Michael HEALTHY.
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Hopefully, they hammer those points again, again, and again, keeping their focus on that most relevant aspect. They did not know how Murray was treating him. They just wanted him to keep him healthy. But I've noticed the longer a trial lasts, the lawyers tend to stray from even their most winning basics. If AEG stays on course, they should come out ahead.
 
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gerryevans said:
Hopefully, they hammer those points again, again, and again, keeping their focus on that most relevant aspect. They did not know how Murray was treating him. They just wanted him to keep him healthy. But I've noticed the longer a trial lasts, the lawyers tend to stray from even their most winning basics. If AEG stays on course, they should come out ahead.
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Agreed!

In my opinion, AEG will stay on course.

It will be Mother's side that will try and muddy the waters, in an effort to confuse the jury, firstly by saying stuff like "Murray WAS hired by AEG, Murray WAS chosen by AEG and Murray WAS paid by AEG." When in fact Murray was never paid, he was chosen by Michael and who hired Murray is still a debatable subject.

Where I'm standing, Murray was in FACT never paid and he was employed and chosen by Michael Jackson.
 
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marc_vivien said:
A cornerstone of the Jacksons' case is an e-mail AEG Live co-CEO Paul Gongaware wrote 11 days before Jackson's death.

The e-mail to show director Kenny Ortega addressed concerns that Murray had kept Jackson from a rehearsal the day before: "We want to remind (Murray) that it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary. We want to remind him what is expected of him."
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I know the Jacksons like to reference that particular email as some sort of "smoking gun," but I have to say since Murray was NEVER paid, Gongware's "it is AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary," is pretty moot and none relevant, in my opinion.

It amounts to Blowing Smoke and is definitely not fact based, since, as I said previously (and we all know) Murray was NEVER paid. Never "officially" paid. Now I don't know if Michael threw him a few dollars on the side to help keep him current, but the fact is Murray never received any monies from AEG.
 
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Murray himsrlf said he was hired by mj but being paid by AEG. so in that sense the email isnt saying anything diff. AEG were paying murray until the concerts happened.

the jury first have to decide that AEG hired murray and thats hard
enough before u get to any emails
 
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I actually think the evidence that aeg hired murray is pretty strong. it's just that there was no signature on the contract. But all the facts surrounding what was going on in those last couple of months demonstrate that there was some contractual relationship going on, with murray attending mj every night, aeg execs having meetings with murray and asking him to get mj to rehearsals, the contract negotiations between aeg and murray, the fact murray had closed down his practises and said goodbye to patients, the fact aeg were sorting out london accomodation for him etc. Murray thought he was going to london and aeg certainly looked as if they were expecting murray was going to london, it was just that the contract wasn't signed - and the contract was backdated to beg of may i think ivy said. So for me, all the facts suggest a verbal contract at least.

So in a technical sense you can argue aeg 'hired' murray, but it was really only because mj was so cash-strapped, everything was on aeg's tab and used as an advance on mj's tour money. I imagine for other tours, mj hired his own doctors and paid them himself - it's just his financial situation meant that aeg had to get involved, idk.

In any case, as far as i'm concerned, the hiring is a moot point, completely agree with big apple, as trying to make it into negligent hiring and link in aeg with the gross negligence of murray is impossible. There are just no facts to support it. Not even in hindsight, could you imagine what was happening with murray and mj every night with propofol.
 
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Bonnie Blue said:
In any case, as far as i'm concerned, the hiring is a moot point, as trying to make it into negligent hiring and link in aeg with the gross negligence of murray is impossible. There are just no facts to support it. Not even in hindsight, could you imagine what was happening with murray and mj every night with propofol.
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I agree. Not even in hindsight, could anybody imagine that Murray was pumping Michael with Propofol in order to help him "sleep."

I mean, the Jacksons like to say that Michael Jackson was AEG's golden goose. So I would have to ask, why in the world would AEG want anything aside from the best in order to ensure that their so-called golden goose was well taken care of

If AEG knew that Michael was having a hard time getting a good night's sleep, would they have ADVISED Murray to give Michael whatever was necessary to get him to sleep, or would they have "suggested" maybe Michael would be interested in seeing a sleep specialist. Just like Ortega made a "suggestion" that maybe Michael should speak to someone.

I use the word "suggestion/suggested" because, Michael was a grown man, and all anybody could do was SUGGEST this, that or the other thing. Michael Jackson was his own man and they certainly couldn't force him to do anything he didn't want to do. He did after all say "I know you're worried, but I'm fine."

I'm sure whatever "treatment" Murray was giving Michael at night, was supposed to be THEIR little secret.
 
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I think the issue is AEG hired murray because of mj. yes AEG hired murray but they hired him the same as they hired karen faye or kenny ortega. and that was because of mj. mj said i want murray i want faye and aeg then sorted that for him. they didnt pick and hire him. To me murrays relationship with mj pre AEG is a big hurdle for the family

and being cash strapped imo has nothing to do with who was paying. artists get subed by the promoters on a tour or by a recod label. they get advances. Thats normal procedure. thome and co were certainly getting nice monthly paycheques.
 
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