[ Pretrial Discussion Closed ] AEG files summary judgment motion to dismiss Katherine's lawsuit

[soulmum]

Re: AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine Jackson lawsuit

Just proves they should have gone after Murray instead - then again he doesn't have any money!

 

[Big Apple2]

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Just proves they should have gone after Murray instead - then again he doesn't have any money!

But going after Murray would have prevented him from earning any money.

Just like the Goldmans did with OJ, the Jackson's could have been in line to take any money Murray is now free to earn. Well free to earn, once he is released from jail.

The Goldmans made OJ's life miserable. They were relentless. They never gave up. They became OJ's shadow. If it looked like OJ was about to make some money, aside from his football pension, they were right there to collect it. I don't think they ever got any real big money out of OJ, but that wasn't the point. The point was to make his life a living hell, and in that they succeeded. I applaud them, because over all of those years, they NEVER gave up.

Next to the Goldmans, the "mighty" Jackson family looks like a bunch of cartoon characters, in my opinion.

 

[ivy]

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Apologies if I've missed it somewhere, but what is the next step in this case and do we know when?

We are waiting for the finalized order by the judge and we will see that if she will go with the tentative order she mentioned yesterday or if she will make any changes to it. We don't know when but seeing that she already had a tentative order on monday (less than a week later the last written motion was submitted) I suspect it'll be quick. (I'm personally expecting that she would have a finalized order within a week).

If the case still goes to trial - if she still allows the negligent hiring - then this last month before the trial will be all the final motions and preps such as witness lists, disagreeing about witness lists and what could be argued and not during trial.

Then there would be jury selection and trial start at April 2nd.

 

[jaydom7]

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But going after Murray would have prevented him from earning any money.

Just like the Goldmans did with OJ, the Jackson's could have been in line to take any money Murray is now free to earn. Well free to earn, once he is released from jail.

The Goldmans made OJ's life miserable. They were relentless. They never gave up. They became OJ's shadow. If it looked like OJ was about to make some money, aside from his football pension, they were right there to collect it. I don't think they ever got any real big money out of OJ, but that wasn't the point. The point was to make his life a living hell, and in that they succeeded. I applaud them, because over all of those years, they NEVER gave up.

Next to the Goldmans, the "mighty" Jackson family looks like a bunch of cartoon characters, in my opinion.

Unfortunately the family doesn't care what Murray does when he gets out.. That is obvious. That family just doesn't care. It's all about the money for them

 

[marebear]

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The Goldmans were relentless and protected their family member in death. Michael's family won't do that for him.

 

[pug]

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The Goldmans were relentless and protected their family member in death. Michael's family won't do that for him.

Yeah, when O.J. tried to make that snarky book to capitalize off the murders, not only did they put a stop to it, they were able to force the publisher to give them every printed copy. That put a break on the sales.

 

[marebear]

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When Murray tries to make money for what he did and you know he will, the family better not complain. I never go to twitter but I will to tell them where to go if they do so. Sorry I sound mean. I am just outraged how people can value money more than someone in their family. Murray has no money but that shouldn't be the point. It will feel like he is killing Michael all over again. For me anyways and this time the family had the power to help Michael.

 

[Memefan]

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Ah, I see, thank Ivy. It's funny because the employment issue was the first thing I thought would be thrown out because of lack of signed contract.

i thought the same thing too. But because this is such a high profile case, i think the judge doesn't want to take the whole case away from KJ. I cant see how the Jacksons will win this one

When this is over, i am hoping AEG turns around and sues KJ to recoup their money. Making sure whatever inheritance (above her living expenses) she gets is tied up.

Katherine Jackson is represented by Brian Panish, Kevin Boyle, Peter J. Polos and Robert Glassman of Panish Shea & Boyle LLP, Michael Koskoff and Bill Bloss of Koskoff Koskoff & Bieder PC, and K.C. Maxwell.

I sure hope the estate isn't paying these bozos. They are most likely going along hoping for a settlement but as i & many others have stated when this case was first filed in court, AEG will not settle. At this point, AEG are so disgusted by the Jacksons, they'd probably agree to flush all their money down the toilet than handed it to them.

ETA This is an afterthought, anyone else put off by how biased & unreliable Alan Duke from CNN is? This is what he wrote:

Jackson kids' lawsuit in dad's death cleared for trial

Los Angeles (CNN) -- The lawsuit filed by Michael Jackson's three children and mother that accuses a concert promoter of contributing to the pop icon's death can go to trial, a Los Angeles judge tentatively ruled Monday.The trial for the wrongful death lawsuit against AEG Live, filed by Jackson matriarch Katherine Jackson and his children, Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson, is set for April. A final order on Monday's decision has not been issued yet.The judge has ordered Dr. Conrad Murray, who the suit contends was hired and supervised by AEG Live executives, to meet with Jackson lawyers next month for a deposition. Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's 2009 death.The judge's decision would allow the suit to move ahead on the contention that AEG Live was negligent in hiring Murray.Murray was working as Jackson's full-time personal physician as the star prepared for his 2009 comeback concerts promoted by AEG Live.Murray lawyer Valerie Wass said she would advise Murray to invoke his Fifth Amendment right to not answer questions."But Dr. Murray has a mind of his own," Wass said. "If he decided to answer a question, those parties don't know what he's going to say."Murray's video-recorded deposition is set to take place on March 18 in the Los Angeles County Jail where he has been serving a four-year prison sentence since November 2011. He could be released on parole later this year.
Murray has never been questioned under oath about Jackson's death. He did not testify at his own trial that ended with his conviction in November 2011.​

Compare his report to AP's and 360's. He always put emphasis on the children (when we all know the children probably had little to no say on whether this lawsuit was filed or not). He is in bed with Jacksons.​

 

[Ashtanga]

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The problem is that MJ had developed an unprecedented dependency to Propofol long before AEG even came into the picture. I mean Murray was pumping him with Propofol for months. and even before that he had a history of using it in previous tours. so, his dependency on the drug was quite severe to the extend that it was only a matter of time before the worse happened, and sadly so. so, AEG lawyer is not entirely wrong to say that "sadly he would die anyway". I actually think the statement is appropriate, unfortunately so, based on all the accounts and evidences that are publicly available so far.

:blink:

 

[8701girl]

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The problem is that MJ had developed an unprecedented dependency to Propofol long before AEG even came into the picture. I mean Murray was pumping him with Propofol for months. and even before that he had a history of using it in previous tours. so, his dependency on the drug was quite severe to the extend that it was only a matter of time before the worse happened, and sadly so. so, AEG lawyer is not entirely wrong to say that "sadly he would die anyway". I actually think the statement is appropriate, unfortunately so, based on all the accounts and evidences that are publicly available so far.

Even though conrat murray was a cardiologist and not a proper doctor he should've stopped giving michael propofol the mintue he realised that was what michael was using to sleep.

If that was any other doctor they would've had a alarm going off in their head bout how dangerous taking this drug in that way was as it was conrat's duty to do the right thing and he didnt do that.

 

[ivy]

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While we are waiting for the final order on motion for summary judgment , I give you AEG's redacted reply to Katherine Jackson's opposition to the motion for summary judgment. We didn't see what Katherine's lawyers have filed but AEG's reply can give us an idea about Katherine's claims.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/127473596/AEG-Reply

[scribd]127473596[/scribd]

 

[Petrarose]

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The problem is that MJ had developed an unprecedented dependency to Propofol long before AEG even came into the picture. I mean Murray was pumping him with Propofol for months. and even before that he had a history of using it in previous tours. so, his dependency on the drug was quite severe to the extend that it was only a matter of time before the worse happened, and sadly so. so, AEG lawyer is not entirely wrong to say that "sadly he would die anyway". I actually think the statement is appropriate, unfortunately so, based on all the accounts and evidences that are publicly available so far.

I know people say that, but I don't know the extent of this, since there were no documents in the trial proving the extent of a dependency. There are too many gaps between the tour and the recent hook up with Muarry for me to see any "unprecedented dependency" as you call it. Further, liar Muarry claimed he was weaning off the drug, so I would need some concrete evidence for this one. Then, he can't say Michael would have died anyway, because if Michael was not in the AEG tour there would be no need for him to seek prof to sleep for rehearsals & touring. I think this is a very callous statement, especially since we are talking about a human being. "It is like saying he would die anyway so who cares." Further, anything could have intervened in the situation to prevent death, we do not know.

 

[jamba]

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If Murray had known what to do, had proper equipment, and actually monitored his patient, MJ would not have died. That's why he was found guilty.

 

[Petrarose]

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If Murray had known what to do, had proper equipment, and actually monitored his patient, MJ would not have died. That's why he was found guilty.

Exactly.

By the way, no news from X17? Can someone wake up Randy.

 

[PaceMioDolceCuore]

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The problem is that MJ had developed an unprecedented dependency to Propofol long before AEG even came into the picture. I mean Murray was pumping him with Propofol for months. and even before that he had a history of using it in previous tours. so, his dependency on the drug was quite severe to the extend that it was only a matter of time before the worse happened, and sadly so. so, AEG lawyer is not entirely wrong to say that "sadly he would die anyway". I actually think the statement is appropriate, unfortunately so, based on all the accounts and evidences that are publicly available so far.

Nope... even Murray's lawyers didn't try that one. Hence why they went with the nonsense of "he swallowed Lorazepam unbeknownst to Dr. Murray".
Why? Because according the a certain ideal Lady Justice' job is to be blind. Ever wonder why she's depicted blind? Because there is nothing 'just' about deciding who 'asked for it'. Basic, basic principle.

Why do you think nurses and Doctors are being prosecuted to the fullest if it becomes public that they went to practice a form of vigilante euthanasia. Especially if
a) no form of physician assisted suicide is on the books
b)if there is one like in Oregon, USA - extremely tight rules apply and
c) those who are deemed to violate the rules are also prosecuted to the fullest - despite existing euthanasia legislature. (just look into Switzerland...)

In all of those case it does not matter ONE SINGLE bit if the person who died at the hands of such physician was about to die 2 weeks from now - or in the next 24 hours. A human life is regarded a human life without any 'but'.

Why did the prosecution INSIST on showing Michael performing Earth Song?? Because it depicted a human being, Michael Jackson, who was NOT on death's door, because he did NOT deserve to die. Because the autopsy concluded that Michael died "at the hands of another".
The fact that his coping skills may have understandably reached their limits does in no way constitute an "he asked for it."
The reason why Michael's death sent shock waves through big chunks of the medical community worldwide (my aunt is an anesthesiologist in Germany) is that particularly a DOCTOR of all people shouldn't

a) harm a patient and
b) use a patient in such manner, cause him harm and then even blame the patient for the wrongdoing of a Doctor.

Why was Dr. Shafer so appalled with his own former mentor playing 'devil's advocate' to get some personal notoriety?
Because ethics and morals dictate that they always apply, not sometimes. There's a reason the prosecution spent quiet a few minutes letting Dr. Shafer explain that basic fact because it highlighted better than any other statistic what the obligation of a Doctor is. Shafer's mentor playing devil's advocate sunk Murray even faster.
There's also a wonderful Q & A with Dr. Shafer on this forum ... and I was beyond thrilled to ask him one more time his opinion - because Murray's counsel was so stupid to declare that Michael's death had nothing to do with Murray keeping a patient chart. Shafer was PISSED during the trial about that kind of conjecture.

Even the Judge made sure to distance himself from such talk - wise move. The last thing anyone needs is a Judge who did not clearly pointed out that in his court equality under the law ("no victim blaming") is not up for discussion of any kind. Which is another reason why the Judge promptly threw out anything and anyone who wanted to discuss such crap. He also was quiet strict in reminding Murray's counsel when they tried that route. It was Murray on trial for manslaughter - not Klein for Demerol and not Ratner for Propofol.

Just as no woman who was raped bloody ASKED FOR IT, no matter how short her skirt is. Is it really that hard to understand these basic truths on the sanctity of human life and rights?

Pointing these things out also does not constitute any baseless hero worship and deification, nor delusion. I'm sure that Michael could be the occasional piece of work - just like all of us.

Should we abolish the persecution of rape and murder of prostitutes, too?? Good God. There's a reason why a certain segment of lawyers are being regarded as literal bottom dwellers, those who smear a dead victim. I highly recommend Matt Semino's article on why smearing the victim is NEVER okay, he wrote an amazing article on these ethical issues.

The Nazis bombarded Nazi Germany for years with dense propaganda before conducting horrendous experiments on concentration camp inmates. That is why 80% of Doctors are extremely hesitant to even discuss euthanasia and whose life is 'already forfeit' because history itself has shown over and over again what happens if you start classing people into less worthy of protections. What was the rational?? Well, let's gas fellow human beings with disabilites because they will die anyway, are not 'productive' members of society and could therefore even serve their nation by dying. If you think that's a drastic comparison - we're far from even protecting human rights which is why that type of meme needs to stop.

Lastly the AEG is also not a trial with the defendant being Michael Joe Jackson. Should be rather self - explanatory.

 

[ivy]

I'm going to post the comment again

Putnam argued that by the time it was negotiating Murray's contract to treat Jackson while performing a series of London concerts, the doctor had already been treating the singer for some time, had relocated from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and had ordered large amounts of propofol to help Jackson sleep.

"Sadly, it appears that Michael Jackson's death would have occurred anyway," Putnam said after the hearing.

I'm personally thinking you are reading too much into this comment. In my opinion as obviously AEG wants to downplay Michael's death for their defense but this comment isn't about years of Propofol or actions of Michael. I believe it is about the actions of Murray. As the first part of the comment clearly mentions Murray had already been treating Michael for some time by the time they were negotiating.

I'm thinking here Putnam is trying to say that Michael could have died even in April 2009 - when Murray was giving him Propofol but when the negotiations with AEG hadn't start.

Furthermore :

We spent days and days listening to how careless Murray was and how much he risked Michael's life.

this is from our Q&A with Dr. Shafer

MJJC: Does it surprise you MJ didn't die sooner than June 25th after finding out Murray was given MJ Propofol without proper equipment for 2 months (according to Murray) prior to MJs death?

Dr. Steve Shafer: Yes. I think that is quite surprising. We don’t know if there were prior close calls, because there are no records.

I'm thinking given the lack of standards at Murray's care of Michael, it's not really that off to think that Michael's death at Murray's hands was just a matter of when.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Yes it was a matter of time if murray acted everynight like he did on the 25th. my issue and seemingly others above is passys comments. sounds like someone who didnt follow the trial and has gotten their info from tmz/tabloids. imo knowledge is power and fans should know better. if they are so easy to get to no wonder the gen public think the way they do

agree memefan. ive also seen the new article by duke in the family section. trying to defend jr being pimed out by latoya. at least the family know fans arent happy and feel the need to run to duke.first thing that stuck out when i saw dukes article. is that the families new memo. Spin it around to try and make it like its all about the kids to influence the jury. if thats the case will every single dime go to the kids ;-)

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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my original reply to passy

what accounts and evidence/trial have have you been reading? thats ridiculous to say that. theres reported info mj used it during the history tour and thats about it. you make it sound that mj used it non stop day to day to get sleep when theres no evidence to support that at all. the only info is that he used it during tours when he had no choice and needed sleep. no evidence at all it was used in a day to day way inorder to support claims of dependency. if it was he wouldnt have needed to hire murray would he. wouldnt be asking metzger and lee. wouldnt be in the studio in ireland telling the cameraman to try and get a shot that made it look like he had had some sleep etc. Sorry but fans should know better interms of educating themselves. no wonder the masses are so easy to brainwash when u have fans speaking in such a way.

 

[Bubs]

While we are waiting for the final order on motion for summary judgment , I give you AEG's redacted reply to Katherine Jackson's opposition to the motion for summary judgment. We didn't see what Katherine's lawyers have filed but AEG's reply can give us an idea about Katherine's claims.

Thanks Ivy. Yeah, I got a picture where Jackson's are coming from, and after reading AEG's summary judgement, it looks like Jacksons are not going to bank.

I only got introduction page where I’m in agreement with AEG.
“Unable to provide contrary evidence in opposition, plaintiff instead unleash a flood of supposed evidence for the other elements they must prove. Yet plaintiffs do not submit one single piece of admissible evidence to contest the key fact requiring summary judgement. Instead, they seek to distract the court with nearly 1300 pages of supposed evidence (most wholly inadmissible) that is wholly irrelevant to the instant motion (admissible or not).”

In other words, they started without having anything, and most likely finish without having anything against AEG.

“For instance, plaintiffs assert that defendants “told Jackson, through CM, what medication he should take”, but again, they presented no admissible evidence to support this wild claim”

So Katherine and Co told in court that AEG people told CM to give Michael this and that medicine and they had nothing to prove that this happened? No wonder judge threw out most of their claims.

“Plaintiffs do not dispute that Jackson died in his home at the hands of his long time personal physician. Not can they. This court therefore must decide whether a concert promoter, by working with an artist, thereby assumes a duty to protect that artist from his own long-term personal physician”

I agree with them, and if I were AEG lawyer, I would be asking why family (as they seem to know all about CM) didn't warn AEG about CM's incompetency? Why family didn't protect MJ from his own physician?


Interesting that Katherine’s side were trying to put the blame on AEG for not getting assistant for CM, but according to this doc, CM was supposed to select assistant for himself, and to London.

Obviously AEG checked CM’s background, he had med license in 4 states, and no history of discipline actions. Katherine’s side argued that they should have know CM posed safety issue because Michael’s 93 painkiller addiction! As AEG said, CM didn’t come with warning sign, and if he fooled Michael, what more AEG could’ve done?

“Plaintiffs also contend that had defendants researched CM’s background in detail, two “glaring problems” would’ve emerged. But neither of these supposed “glaring problems” would have put any reasonable person on notice that CM posed safety risk to Jackson. First, plaintiffs contend defendants would have learned CM was not board certified in cardiology. There is no evidence, however that CM lack of board certification rendered him unqualified. Nor could it conceivably put a reasonable person on notice that CM was unfit to treat Jackson’s general medical needs.

They are right. How they were supposed to know that the experiment what CM was practicing to MJ, was kind of medical field that board certification was needed.

“Second, plaintiffs contend a background check would have revealed CM was in debt, but debt doesn’t render a person unqualified to do his job. There was, and would have been no reason to suspect CM debt would cause him to perform poorly as a physician.”

I agree with that too. Not too many people would work now days if that is to the reason for not hiring anyone with debt, and again, it didn’t bother MJ that CM was in debt. Also, most of the Jackson has this "glaring problem", so are they saying that they cannot be hired for anything as they pose a thread?

“Contrary to plaintiffs unsupported contentions that CM was to be engaged for up to four years, the draft contract provided that the “term” would terminate at “the end of last performance of the artist in the concert series”, which would be March 6, 2010.

Where the hell Katherine and Co got the idea that CM was to be with MJ for 4 years?
Now there is something for siblings to think about, where is the rest of the 100 concert that MJ was supposed to do with them?

After reading AEG’s summary judgement, Jackson’s can kiss judge’s behind as she left them a bone to chew. They were damn lucky that the judge didn’t throw out the whole case. AEG has some very strong points, and Jackson’s have not much at all, especially the much needed evidence.

 

[Bubs]

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i thought the same thing too. But because this is such a high profile case, i think the judge doesn't want to take the whole case away from KJ. I cant see how the Jacksons will win this one


ETA This is an afterthought, anyone else put off by how biased & unreliable Alan Duke from CNN is? This is what he wrote:

Compare his report to AP's and 360's. He always put emphasis on the children (when we all know the children probably had little to no say on whether this lawsuit was filed or not). He is in bed with Jacksons.​

I thought when I read AEG's summary judgement that she left them a bone. As AEG wrote in they summary judgement, Jackson's had 1300 pages of nothing.

Yeah, Alan Duke is friend of Katherine's, I think? He tried to put the title like it was kids idea to sue AEG, and Katherine just did that to please them:bugeyed.
Unfortunately his post are not reliable any longer as this is not first time he throws impartial judgement out of the window.

At least we still have Linda Deutch (sp) and Anthony McCartney, and few more.

 

[ivy]

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AEG's reply to me showed that why Katherine's side wants to talk to Murray.

I would imagine their only sources for some of the information such as riot act meeting is Karen Faye, which makes it hearsay and not admissible in a court. I'm thinking they need Murray to testify and even point finger to AEG to even have a slight chance at this lawsuit.

The 4 years, I would imagine that comes from the world tour. I believe there might have been some talks and preliminary planning about it but AEG is right, there was no signed contract for a world tour. They are just assuming that as long as Michael toured Murray would have been touring with him.

And we don't know what the judge's finalized decision will be, she can still dismiss the whole case.

As for the journalists, you are right. Alan Duke gets invited and gets exclusives from Jacksons so he's friendly with them. I prefer Anthony McCartney. Not only he reports unbiased and better, he's also willing to explain what he left out. for example he didn't go into details of what claims were dismissed in this AP story but when I asked him he responded with more details.

 

[jaydom7]

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I still can't believe Murray, a medical doctor, was so reckless with MJ's care knowing what an anesthetic can do. I bet Murray has never given something like that to a patient himself. In a hospital during heart procedures I'm quite sure he used an anesthesiologist and I'm quite sure the patient was monitored. The fact that he was so reckless is just baffling to me. I bet he left Mike unmonitored nightly with a IV hooked up to him.

 

[Bubs]

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So judge only allowed a negligent hiring claim go ahead of all 6 claims.
I read AEG summary judgement and thought they argument for negligent hiring was strong and made perfect sense.
Jackson's had better come up with very good counter claims with proof and evidence if they are planning to win this case.

Ivy, I thought that too that is the reason why they want talk to CM.
Do you know any reason why documents from Katherine side is not made available?
Although,it not that important as you can read a lot from AEG's docs, but it would be nice to read them, if nothing else, then for comedy reasons.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Thanks for the rundown bubs and ivy. so the family are trying to use the 93 addiction against murray and AEG. How ridiculous . But hey if throwing mj under a bus helps so be it

 

[jaydom7]

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Thanks for the rundown bubs and ivy. so the family are trying to use the 93 addiction against murray and AEG. How ridiculous . But hey if throwing mj under a bus helps so be it

Yep! so if Katherine knew her son had dependency and addiction problems where the hell was she and why didn't she help him? she knew of his visits to Klein or at least she should have known. Why didn't she get him help?

 

[Bubs]

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Thanks for the rundown bubs and ivy. so the family are trying to use the 93 addiction against murray and AEG. How ridiculous . But hey if throwing mj under a bus helps so be it

I'm surprised that all other doctors between 93 to 2009 managed to keep Michael alive, despite him being full blow drug addict (not my words, thank you's to the Jacksons) but then comes CM and he kills Michael. According to Jackson's claim, AEG should have known CM pose a risk!
Wouldn't all the doctors that MJ met between 93 and 2009 pose a risk in that case?
Bonkers if you ask me:doh:

 

[Bonnie Blue]

Instead, they seek to distract the court with nearly 1300 pages of supposed evidence (most wholly inadmissible) that is wholly irrelevant to the instant motion (admissible or not).”

Geez, what did the jackson side decide to file - all their exciting conspiracy stories of missing tapes, carolwood = piccadilly circus with a cast of characters wandering round on 25 june, the battles over mj's beatles catalogue by the powers that be. It's what we expect from the jacksons but what are these highly expensive lawyers doing by bringing this case with no reasonable evidence.

Thanks ivy and bubs for the summaries. I just want the judge to make it all to go away.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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did murray even ever prescribe painkillers to mj? jacksons seem caught up in the lies they have been peddling the last few years. guess the jacksons forget what killed mj.

I'm surprised that all other doctors between 93 to 2009 managed to keep Michael alive, despite him being full blow drug addict (not my words, thank you's to the Jacksons) but then comes CM and he kills Michael. According to Jackson's claim, AEG should have known CM pose a risk!
Bonkers if you ask me:doh:

 

[ivy]

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So judge only allowed a negligent hiring claim go ahead of all 6 claims.

let me remind that this is still a tentative ruling so it's not certain. We have to wait and see if the oral arguments made any difference.

Do you know any reason why documents from Katherine side is not made available?
Although,it not that important as you can read a lot from AEG's docs, but it would be nice to read them, if nothing else, then for comedy reasons.

they did not file redacted version.

Let me give you an idea. AEG has filed this 19 page reply in a redacted version so it's available to the public. AEG also have a lot of exhibits that accompany this filing and those exhibits are all under seal and is not available to the public.

So we would not seen the 1300 pages of exhibits from Katherine's side regardless of what. But they could have filed a redacted version of their main portion but they did not do it.

 

[passy001]

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It seems like my comment is causing quite is stir. that was never my intention. I was trying to explain the rational behind AEG comment "sadly he would die anyway". meaning AEG had nothing to do with MJ death. also was not trying to imply, as many are now suggesting, that MJ was a junkie. All I was trying to say was that MJ already had a history of using Propofol thanks to CR long before AEG got into the picture.