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I believe that too. When I saw the medical records at the Murray trial, it gave me the impression that some medication wasn't necessary for the procedures and was put on the record just to bill Michael. For example the so called 51 demerol injections, I don't believe in this amount. I think it was put on record just to get more money from MJ.
Actually They were not all demoral injections they were procedural injections to fill out his face. like botox (which would be several in different areas for each proceedure). I think was TMZ that made the reference they were demoral injections to be salacious .. so the rumor keeps spreading not the truth .. ("The lie becomes the truth" ) Yes there were demoral injections for some proceedures done, but not 51. I dont think he even has 51 visits.
 
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It's sad that his own family won't protect him or look out for him now. His children have to see all of this.
 
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In my opinion, she's questioning Klein's treatment of Michael. Painkillers are the number one reason for addiction. Klein was giving high amounts of painkillers to Michael who had previously in 1993 had dealt with an addiction to painkillers. The higher than average but within daily maximums and the use of another name makes her suspicious in my opinion.

As for what Phillips said, not everyone would be happy but there's some truth to it. From an organizer / promoter perspective Michael hadn't toured over a decade, he had went through a serious allegation and trial. For any organizer / producer he would have been an unknown and/or high risk investment. AEG might be one of the few willing to take that risk - and even not so much given that they made a contract that kept Michael responsible for the production costs. When the tickets were announced and sold everyone probably realized that Michael still had the power to fill the stadiums.

Interesting^^ yes you have a point about them making him responsible for the production costs, but I thought they did that because they were thinking he might become sick since people were talking about how weak he was, or because people were saying he backed out of deals. Didn't Allgood want to work with him, and claimed he went with AEG instead, so wouldn't that show others were interested in Michael.
 
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Interesting^^ yes you have a point about them making him responsible for the production costs, but I thought they did that because they were thinking he might become sick since people were talking about how weak he was, or because people were saying he backed out of deals. Didn't Allgood want to work with him, and claimed he went with AEG instead, so wouldn't that show others were interested in Michael.

Still all of those (sick, backs out of deals etc.) shows a high risk investment. If every other promoter thought the same way that could help explain Phillips's comment that they were the only ones willing to work with him. But as I said as fist the 10 concerts and then 50 concerts were sold out it would have shown all the organizers and promoters that Michael was still a high interest hot item.

Allgood was a one concert.
 
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Actually They were not all demoral injections they were procedural injections to fill out his face. like botox (which would be several in different areas for each proceedure). I think was TMZ that made the reference they were demoral injections to be salacious .. so the rumor keeps spreading not the truth .. ("The lie becomes the truth" ) Yes there were demoral injections for some proceedures done, but not 51. I dont think he even has 51 visits.

I know the media exaggerated the story. I used this just as an example. There were unnecessary medications on that record that in my opinion were put there to bill MJ.
 
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Tomorrow is Monday & I think we will have some news about the arguments?
 
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Tomorrow is Monday & I think we will have some news about the arguments?

Yes, Anthony McCartney from AP said that he will report it. Hearing starts at 8 :45 AM PST (Los Angeles time). I would think it would take a few hours - given that judge will also hear from MJ Estate about sealing the medical records. So the news should come around afternoon IMO - which makes it mid - late afternoon at East coast and towards the night at Europe.
 
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Katherine doesn't seem to care about anything other than money.. The truth was revealed in court and Murray was convicted. This mess is just for money. If she was concerned about her son's health and safety, she should've done something about it.
 
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Katherine doesn't seem to care about anything other than money..

In my opinion, Mother has to create a "nest-egg" for her cubs and the cubs of her cubs.

I mean, they all know that they will not be able to inherit Mother's portion of Michael's estate.
 
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In my opinion, Mother has to create a "nest-egg" for her cubs and the cubs of her cubs.

I mean, they all know that they will not be able to inherit Mother's portion of Michael's estate.

so Michael is the sacrificial lamb
 
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Jackson kids' lawsuit in dad's death cleared for trial
By Alan Duke, CNN

Los Angeles (CNN) -- The lawsuit filed by Michael Jackson's three children and mother that accuses a concert promoter of contributing to the pop icon's death can go to trial, a Los Angeles judge tentatively ruled Monday.

The trial for the wrongful death lawsuit against AEG Live, filed by Jackson matriarch Katherine Jackson and his children, Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson, is set for April. A final order on Monday's decision has not been issued yet.
Photos: Michael Jackson, King of Pop

The judge has ordered Dr. Conrad Murray, who the suit contends was hired and supervised by AEG Live executives, to meet with Jackson lawyers next month for a deposition. Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's 2009 death.


The judge's decision would allow the suit to move ahead on the contention that AEG Live was negligent in hiring Murray.

Murray was working as Jackson's full-time personal physician as the star prepared for his 2009 comeback concerts promoted by AEG Live.

Murray lawyer Valerie Wass said she would advise Murray to invoke his Fifth Amendment right to not answer questions.

"But Dr. Murray has a mind of his own," Wass said. "If he decided to answer a question, those parties don't know what he's going to say."

Murray's video-recorded deposition is set to take place on March 18 in the Los Angeles County Jail where he has been serving a four-year prison sentence since November 2011. He could be released on parole later this year.

Murray has never been questioned under oath about Jackson's death. He did not testify at his own trial that ended with his conviction in November 2011.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/25/showbiz/jackson-wrongful-death-suit/index.html
 
Michael Jackson Lawsuit: Judge Leans Toward Letting Suit Continue
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY 02/25/13 03:45 PM ET EST

LOS ANGELES — A jury should decide whether the promoter of Michael Jackson's final concerts negligently hired and supervised the physician convicted of causing the singer's death, a judge tentatively ruled Monday.

If the ruling stands, it will allow the case by Jackson's mother, Katherine, to go forward and present the theory that concert giant AEG Live controlled the physician who gave the superstar a lethal dose of the anesthetic propofol.

Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos' tentative ruling however eliminates some of Katherine Jackson's claims and an attorney for AEG predicted the company would win at trial.

It is unclear when the ruling will be finalized, or whether the judge will change it. She heard two hours of arguments about the case on Monday but didn't indicate whether her mind had been changed.

AEG attorney Marvin Putnam said he was pleased with the ruling and reiterated his belief that the case should have never been filed.

The case centers on whether AEG did an appropriate investigation of Conrad Murray, a former cardiologist who is serving his sentence after being convicted of the involuntary manslaughter of the pop singer. The case also involves whether AEG controlled him while Jackson prepared for a series of comeback concerts.

Katherine Jackson's attorney, Kevin Boyle, declined comment after the hearing, saying he wanted to see the final order.

He told Palazuelos that AEG created a division of loyalties for Murray between his care of Jackson and maintaining an arrangement that would have paid him $150,000 a month to care for the singer.

Jackson died before Murray's contract was signed, and AEG argues he was not an employee of the company.

"AEG just made this more risky for Michael," Boyle argued Monday.

He said the case was unique and it should proceed intact with claims that AEG is liable for Murray's actions. "This has never happened before, or at least no one's been caught," Boyle said.

Putnam argued that by the time it was negotiating Murray's contract to treat Jackson while performing a series of London concerts, the doctor had already been treating the singer for some time, had relocated from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and had ordered large amounts of propofol to help Jackson sleep.

"Sadly, it appears that Michael Jackson's death would have occurred anyway," Putnam said after the hearing.

Katherine Jackson sued in September 2010 and a trial has been scheduled for early April.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...s-toward-letting-suit-continue_n_2760547.html
 
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so some claims are out but others will go to trial - as of now. I'm curious about what got eliminated
 
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Thanks ivy. why so little details in the articles has the judge not said whats in and out until a proper
filing is done
 
This is pretty significant, according to this only negligent hiring claim remains and Leiweke and AEG parent company is out.

Michael Jackson’s mom suing concert promoters
By City News Service, on February 25, 2013, at 1:37 pm
By BILL HETHERMAN

A judge today issued a tentative ruling that Michael Jackson’s mother can move forward with her lawsuit contending that the promoters of Michael Jackson’s never-realized London concerts negligently hired Dr. Conrad Murray as the singer’s personal physician.


Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos said she also is leaning toward tossing aside all other claims that could hold AEG Live liable for Jackson’s death.

Defense attorneys had moved for dismissal of the entire complaint, saying that two years of litigation failed to show the company or its executives did anything wrong.

Palazuelos took the issues under submission and did not say when she would issue a final ruling.

The entertainer was set to perform a string of 50 shows dubbed “This Is It,” but he died on June 25, 2009, at age 50, of acute propofol intoxication at his rented home in Holmby Hills while rehearsing for the concert series.

Katherine Jackson sued in September 2010 on behalf of her son’s three children, Michael Jr., Paris-Michael Katherine and Prince Michael, claiming that the company picked Murray to be pop star’s personal physician.

Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s 2009 death and was sentenced in November 2011 to four years in the Los Angeles County men’s jail.

AEG Live attorney Marvin Putnam maintained his clients never hired Murray and that he, in fact, had been one of many doctors who had treated the singer in the past.

He said after the hearing that he was pleased with the work Palazuelos did in preparing her tentative ruling and that he was hopeful she would conclude that the negligent hiring claim also should be dismissed.

Plaintiffs’ attorney Kevin Boyle declined to comment after the hearing.

He said during arguments that AEG Live, in allegedly hiring Murray, gave little consideration to red flags showing that the doctor was in debt and was not a board-certified cardiologist.

Putnam said most doctors are not board-certified and that the fact that he was in debt was irrelevant.

Putnam also said Jackson had a drug problem for years before he entered into any agreements to perform on behalf of AEG Live.

Palazuelos also said in her tentative ruling that she is leaning toward dismissing Timothy Leiweke, AEG Inc.’s president and chief executive officer, and that company as defendants.

Defense attorneys maintain AEG Inc. and AEG Live are two separate entities.

Boyle maintains that the two companies’ interests are intertwined.

Leiweke stated that he had preliminary talks with Jackson and his manager in the fall of 2008 about a potential tour deal.

He said he did not talk with the singer about any medical treatment and that he never had any conversations with any of the entertainer’s physicians.

“I never met or communicated with Dr. Conrad Murray,” Leiweke stated. “To my knowledge, no other AEG Inc. employee or agent every met or communicated with Dr. Murray either. Given that I never communicated with Dr. Murray in any way, I certainly had no role whatsoever hiring, training or supervising Dr. Murray.”

The tentative ruling would keep Paul Gongaware, Co-Chief Executive Officer of Concerts West (a division of AEG Live) and AEG Live President and Chief Executive Officer Brandon Phillips in the case, which is scheduled for trial April 2.

Gongaware stated in his sworn declaration that he never told Jackson or any of his doctors what medications the singer should take.

“At no point did I ever require Jackson to take propofol,” Gongaware states. “I had no idea Jackson was taking propofol until after I learned how Jackson died in press reports. I had no suspicious whatsoever that Dr. Murray was giving Jackson propofol.”

http://www.swrnn.com/2013/02/25/michael-jacksons-mom-suing-concert-promoters/
 
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A little info

Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP
.@Ivy_4MJ Not eliminated yet, but judge is leaning toward nixing a breach of contract-type claim (1st) and respondeat superior claim (5th)

Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP
.@Ivy_4MJ The numbers in parenthesis are the causes as they appear in the amended complaint.


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Note: Tentative ruling means that it's not final and the judge can still make changes.
 
Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos said she also is leaning toward tossing aside all other claims that could hold AEG Live liable for Jackson’s death.
and there goes out of the window the settlement the Jack$ons were dearly hoping for,

He said during arguments that AEG Live, in allegedly hiring Murray, gave little consideration to red flags showing that the doctor was in debt and was not a board-certified cardiologist.
That is a lie. AEG never wanted Murray from day one. It was MJ who actually insisted on having him. That's why they never signed the contract.

He said after the hearing that he was pleased with the work Palazuelos did in preparing her tentative ruling and that he was hopeful she would conclude that the negligent hiring claim also should be dismissed.
I agree 100 % and I expect AEG to beat this should the case proceed to trial
 
Re: AEG files their summary judgment motion asking to dismiss Katherine Jackson lawsuit

Great news for Michael Jackson. This lawsuit has been gutted....with, potentially, only the hiring accusation left. Wow....the Jacksons are eternal losers because they don't know how to pick their battles.

Truth is winning....greed is losing. Randy & Jermaine better hit that unemployment line.
 
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So is this trial is still happening?
 
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So is this trial is still happening?

as of now - yes. but it can also change.

From the media stories as far as I can understand this is what's happening.

The judge had read the briefs (AEG's motion for summary judgment, Katherine's Opppostion and AEG's reply) and came to today's oral hearings prepared. Judge told the parties that she plans to dismiss the complaints against AEG Inc and Tim Leiweke. That means AEG Live, Gongaware and Phillips remains as defendants. She also told them she is thinking about dropping 2 out of 3 claims - breach of contract and respondeat superior- and only leave 1 claim negligent hiring. That 1 claim would be decided by a jury. This was a tentative - meaning that judge had not made up her mind for certain and could change her mind. She listened to oral arguments for 2 hours. Probably AEG tried to convince her to dismiss it all, Katherine trying to convince her not to dismiss parts. Now the judge is taking it under consideration. She will make the final decision. She can go with her tentative order and accept it final order or she can make changes to it - adding and removing claims and so on.

So we still need to wait and see what will be the final decision. But currently it doesn't look good for Katherine. Judge is thinking to dismiss 2 out of 5 defendants and 2 out of 3 claims. If this becomes the final decision judge will have seriously gutted Katherine's lawsuit.
 
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as of now - yes. but it can also change.

From the media stories as far as I can understand this is what's happening.

The judge had read the briefs (AEG's motion for summary judgment, Katherine's Opppostion and AEG's reply) and came to today's oral hearings prepared. Judge told the parties that she plans to dismiss the complaints against AEG Inc and Tim Leiweke. That means AEG Live, Gongaware and Phillips remains as defendants. She also told them she is thinking about dropping 2 out of 3 claims - breach of contract and respondeat superior- and only leave 1 claim negligent hiring. That 1 claim would be decided by a jury. This was a tentative - meaning that judge had not made up her mind for certain and could change her mind. She listened to oral arguments for 2 hours. Probably AEG tried to convince her to dismiss it all, Katherine trying to convince her not to dismiss parts. Now the judge is taking it under consideration. She will make the final decision. She can go with her tentative order and accept it final order or she can make changes to it - adding and removing claims and so on.

So we still need to wait and see what will be the final decision. But currently it doesn't look good for Katherine. Judge is thinking to dismiss 2 out of 5 defendants and 2 out of 3 claims. If this becomes the final decision judge will have seriously gutted Katherine's lawsuit.

So this is all good?
 
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So this is all good?

As of now - Good for AEG, not so good for Katherine. We will need to see the final order.
 
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I still don't see how 1 remains, based on the fact that Michael had this doc before, Michael requested him, AEG did not sign yet, AEG did not know what was happening. Unless the judge took the e-mails into consideration?

I hope in desperation & to be vindictive, Randy does not leak Michael's medical information.

So funny Vass saying that she told Muarry to take the 5th, but he has a mind of his own & no one knows what he will say.

I don't like Putnam saying Muarry was treating Michael before, and "sadly Michael would have died anyway." To me he is implying that Muarry was giving Michael prof so if the concerts were not arranged Michael would be still getting prof from Muarry & die. I guess we all knew they were going to go with Michael was a druggie.
 
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Great news for Michael Jackson. This lawsuit has been gutted....with, potentially, only the hiring accusation left. Wow....the Jacksons are eternal losers because they don't know how to pick their battles.

Truth is winning....greed is losing. Randy & Jermaine better hit that unemployment line.


well sis Janet Al Mana will throw them a bone.. her and her new hubby will be supporting that whole damn clan when Katherine leaves this earth:ciao:
 
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I think Puntam is referring to the 6 weeks before Michael's death. Even according to Murray he was giving Michael Propofol almost a month ago he and AEG started negotiations. I'm thinking this is what Puntam is referring to. And he's saying given how negligent Murray was , Michael's death was a matter of when and not a matter of if.
 
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I think Puntam is referring to the 6 weeks before Michael's death. Even according to Murray he was giving Michael Propofol almost a month ago he and AEG started negotiations. I'm thinking this is what Puntam is referring to. And he's saying given how negligent Murray was , Michael's death was a matter of when and not a matter of if.

But Michael only went back to Muarry due to the concert and needing sleep to rehearse and perform, so if Michael was not involved with AEG, most likely he would not need Muarry and the 'sadly he would die anyway" claim would not apply.
 
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If Katherine cared about her son she would have been taking care of him. She deserves nothing from AEG. She along with her kids were putting pressure on MJ too. She saw Michael. She attended a meeting with MJ and Randy Phillips. Was she concerned about his health and appearance then?
 
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Any news about the sealing of Michael's medical records that was also going to be discussed today?
 
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They should have gotten restitution against Murray instead of this lawsuit.
 
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