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im sorry but im not native speaker but in ivys post it cleary says it felt scary.. the it felt scary is michael (also said michael is the text after) so

why are you arquiing a post not from me but from ivy? if thats wrong than im wrong, but i can read and understand basic english.. basis is it felt is basic.. right?
 
HLN is tabloid.. They know good and damn well MJ didn't kill himself. They want to blame MJ for everything like they've always done.
 
Murray wouldn't call it at the house as it would automatically mean the house would be turned into a crime scene which he overuled the EMTs who wanted to call it. There was evidence that he needed to hide.
 
Ingelief;3172867 said:
justthe fact not that post

the post 252.. there is said

He wasn't in condition to be at rehearsal..he didn't seem well enough to be there...he didn't rehearse and didn’t want to go home..asked for choreography to do his part and watch from arena..this happened for a while. He just appeared very lost it was scary..(AND no it comes) >>>>>>>>>>> it felt scary..said MJ
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i think that was a typo by the lady cause im sure she is typing that stuff up very fast.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
why would he want to get the cream. its was cream that is prescirbed to ppl who have vitiligo there was nothing dodgy about it. deary me u now seem to be defending murrays because i guess of cause amir and alberto were in on the conspiracy aswell


intresting is she a defence witness being called by the prosecution? cant remember what u call them
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It shows he was not paying MJ any attention. He was talking to her on the phone when he should've been watching his patient.
 
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I WISH PEOPLE WOULD Stop calling propofol his milk i highly doubt that he called it that himself.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
exactly. i thought it was pretty obvious. he wanted to go back to the house to clean up. who the heck thinks of some cream when you paitent has just died
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I agree Elusive....Murray really didn't care about Michael by thi point..he was already gone...Murray wanted to hurry up and get back to the house to clean up whatever evidence he left behind..hense Murray's comment..:The world will know:...we all know he wasn't talking about cream....he was talking about the propofol bottles. HE wanted to hide what it was he was doing.
 
Asedora said:
No it is not that stright forward. There are always TWO exits: first he wanted to cover things as you say. Second: He really wanted to get this cream.
We do not know what was the reason. If he wanted to hide this cream, that means Murray is stupid. This is all waht I was saying.
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if he wanted to hide his cream he did a HORRIBLE job because they still found cream when they did the search.
 
i believe we all want the same thing murray in prison.. and i believe we all want the truth... however everyone has a diffrent opion look and differend backgrounds.. so that will get be emotional yes.. its emotion for me.. but too say some people ruin this thread is very rude i believe and is very short and not the whole picture..

we are all intitled to react to the fact that are presented here. and thats what we all do..
if its about scared karen faye or other subjects mather..
 
I think Murray wanted to go back to the house to make sure nothing looked suspicious. He didn't even tell the paramedics he gave him propofol. If I remember right I think he didn't even want sign a death certificate. I could be wrong about that.
 
StacyJ said:
that is exactly what he was doing. He wanted to get that diprivan/propofol out of that house. Remember he never mentioned giving it to MJ to the paramedics or the ER doctor. He knew what he did was wrong.
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this could be true. he still did a HORRIBLE job hiding whatever he was suppose to because they found propofol amd the skin cream at the house when they did the search. they didnt just find one of each either, they found multiples of both items. so i will never understand that

Ingelief said:
white cream could be propofol?
his white milk?
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could be???? who knows
 
Goodness he was talking about Michael's skin cream the stuff he used for his Vitligo
 
GinnyJackson said:
I WISH PEOPLE WOULD Stop calling propofol his milk i highly doubt that he called it that himself.
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its a name that is given to diprivan. mj didnt create it its used in the medical profession but of course the media are acting like mj created the name ala jesus juice
 
this could be true. he still did a HORRIBLE job hiding whatever he was suppose to because they found propofol amd the skin cream at the house when they did the search. they didnt just find one of each either, they found multiples of both items. so i will never understand that
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because he never went back to the house
 
Originally Posted by Ingelief
white cream could be propofol?
his white milk?
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the bodyguards meant the vitiligo cream, not propofol. they've told the same story they told last year - that Murray said he wanted to return to the house to hide the vitiligo cream.
 
StacyJ said:
that is exactly what he was doing. He wanted to get that diprivan/propofol out of that house. Remember he never mentioned giving it to MJ to the paramedics or the ER doctor. He knew what he did was wrong.
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I am glad that you are not a judge. Because if you were you would make a very simple "one road" decision. The system does not work that way.
 
this thread is about the prelim not conspriacy theories. go to the con section and discuss it there.
 
I believe murray never went back to the house? Wasn't his BMW(?) still parked there a day or two after? I think Murray went AWOL for a few days after MJ died?
So sure: he probably wanted to go back to get all the propofol (I know I would if I had just killed the king of pop), but somehow didnt get a chance to, otherwise there'd be no bottles to be found at all: Murray knew where they were located at...
 
Sophielo said:
Murray wouldn't call it at the house as it would automatically mean the house would be turned into a crime scene which he overuled the EMTs who wanted to call it. There was evidence that he needed to hide.
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true. that makes him look very suspicious.

marebear said:
I think Murray wanted to go back to the house to make sure nothing looked suspicious. He didn't even tell the paramedics he gave him propofol. If I remember right I think he didn't even want sign a death certificate. I could be wrong about that.
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could be true that he wanted to hide evidence. yea i think latoya signed the certificate because he refused to.
 
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oh ok why is it a big deal the cream for vitiligo? whe al know he had it? why try to hide it??
 
Justthefacts said:
Goodness he was talking about Michael's skin cream the stuff he used for his Vitligo
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we dont know that for sure but i think that what he is talking about. then again, they still found some at his house, so he probably was lying.
 
Ingelief said:
oh ok why is it a big deal the cream for vitiligo? whe al know he had it? why try to hide it??
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its was an excuse murray lied. he wanted to be taken back to the house so he could hide the diprivan. he used the cream as an excuse implying it was something bad ie skin bleeching
 
Ingelief said:
oh ok why is it a big deal the cream for vitiligo? whe al know he had it? why try to hide it??
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Well, either an excuse for Murray to go back and also hide the propofol, or Murray was genuinely concerned about MJ's legacy.

You can say "we all knew he had it" now, and sure: fans knew about the vitiligo, but I think the 30 tubes of skin bleaching cream could still make some tabloid have a field day.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
because he never went back to the house
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true, now that i think about it.... why would he go back to the house and not take his car???? i still would have went back and got my car though....

mthalen said:
I believe murray never went back to the house? Wasn't his BMW(?) still parked there a day or two after? I think Murray went AWOL for a few days after MJ died?
So sure: he probably wanted to go back to get all the propofol (I know I would if I had just killed the king of pop), but somehow didnt get a chance to, otherwise there'd be no bottles to be found at all: Murray knew where they were located at...
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true. why would he not take his car from the house if we went back???? also they found mjs skin cream and propofol when they did the search
 
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