and there is another one.
Thank you for taking a strong stand on threatening. That would be very ugly, and I would hate to see it.ok ppl whatever you want to comment here... threatening anyone will imediately be reported and lead to taking this thread off!
Also we do have enough drama going on I think... and this is the past.
Michael was proven innocent by court, to me nobody could have told the family better and clearer what losers they truely are than the simple verdict told at court ... but ok for those to whom it feels good to digg in the past... just please try to controll yourselves... don't do drama... and better behave.
Thank you for taking a strong stand on threatening. That would be very ugly, and I would hate to see it.
I disagree, though, that this is the past. Every time Michael's name comes up outside of fan circles the words "child molester" and "pedophile" inevitably come up. It's not the past. It's the present. To say that it is in the past because he was acquitted ignores the reality that many people don't believe or are in doubt as to his innocence. As long as the media and the public keep bringing it up, it is not in the past.
Thank you for taking a strong stand on threatening. That would be very ugly, and I would hate to see it.
I disagree, though, that this is the past. Every time Michael's name comes up outside of fan circles the words "child molester" and "pedophile" inevitably come up. It's not the past. It's the present. To say that it is in the past because he was acquitted ignores the reality that many people don't believe or are in doubt as to his innocence. As long as the media and the public keep bringing it up, it is not in the past.
That's right...even though he's been cleared legally speaking, the label of child abuser is still there and will be brought up over and over when someone mentions his name...Michael doesn't deserve that, never did. Michael doesn't have a voice anymore, so others have to be that for him.
Even if Gavin and Jordan never come out in public and set the record straight, I hope this really affects their conscience emotionally and mentally.
To put it bluntly:
I HOPE THEY SUFFER WITH THE GUILT OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THE REST OF THEIR PATHETIC, MISERABLE LIVES!!! :mat:
What I don't understand about the whole Gavin accusations and trial is this: Michael was found innocent, BUT this automatically leads to the fact that Gavin lied. Wouldn't be natural that the justice punish a liar who made an innocent's man live a nightmare???
they wouldnt have to do an interview or anything like that. just a press release. nobody knows what that kid looks like nowadays. he has no reason not to come clean unless he is wanting to go to hell.
No, it does not. All it means technically is that guilt could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Lack of proof does not mean there is a lie. There are many cases where a party is telling the truth but does not have enough evidence to prove her or his claim. I don't think that is the case with Gavin, but there is still not enough evidence to prove legally that he lied.What I don't understand about the whole Gavin accusations and trial is this: Michael was found innocent, BUT this automatically leads to the fact that Gavin lied.
I see what you're saying. I do think that if the accusers came forward that it would change people's opinions. A lot of people don't realize how little evidence there was and some people think Michael just bought his way out of the case. A confession by the accusers would definitely prove that Michael was innocent. I agree that he shouldn't have to keep trying to prove his innocence, but unfortunately those are the circumstances, at least in the U.S. where public opinion towards him has been very negative.Innocense is nothing to prove.
To me guilt has to be proven.
It never was. end of story.
Neither media nor some other fools will turn this around with me and I will always pretty clear have a stand of that if I should be confronted with it.
Here I am not. This smells to me as if Michael still has to prove his innocense although the truth is all out there easily to see for everybody already. Some just would never see it even if it would jump like trampoline in their faces again and again and again... but those are the fools.
The formerly accusers saying the truth... will not really 'change' a thing what's not already out there... there was NEVER ANY EVIDENCE. I do have my doubts the say of knowingly lyers will suddenly make ppl see who are blind because they want to be blind.
Ok... can't put it better into english... but hope you understand a bit better where I'm coming from.
A wonderful, hearbreaking letter. Michael was put through so much. I hope the Arvizo's do the right thing, but I think they are gutless cowards and I'd be suprised if The Arvizo's or Chandler's ever came forward, but I am happy Azja Pryor wrote this. It needed to be said and what makes her story more credible is that Azja actually knew the Arvizo's personally.
And I agree with those who said that regardless of the acquittal people still believe MJ's guilty of those charges. A lot of people believe his celebrity and money "got him off" so no, unfortunately, his acquittal meant nothing to some people. Only Jordan and Gavin or their families could ever truly help to clear Michael's name, but I doubt that will ever happen. I just wanna know how they can live with themselves knowing what they've done? They 'caused MJ tons of umaginable stress, heartache and ruined his reputation. How can these people sleep at night.