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ivy;3827274 said:
Michael Jackson's family offered to settle lawsuit, lawyer says

A lawyer for Michael Jackson’s family said they offered to settle their wrongful-death suit against concert promoter Anschutz Entertainment Group, but that they never got an answer.

Kevin Boyle, an attorney for Jackson’s mother and three children, said the family made the offers in January and March.

Boyle would not provide details but said AEG’s insurance would have paid, “which means they could have settled the case without them paying a dime of their money.”

He said AEG has never offered to settle “and they haven’t apologized.”

Marvin Putnam, an attorney for AEG, said it was inappropriate to discuss settlement discussions.

“We don’t settle matters that are utterly baseless,” he said. “We believe that is the case in this matter. I can’t see why we would consider a settlement as anything other than a shakedown.”

AEG was the promoter and producer of Jackson's comeback concert series in London. The singer died June 25, 2009, at the end of rehearsals, of an overdose of the anesthetic propofol administered by Dr. Conrad Murray.

The Jacksons say in their lawsuit that AEG negligently hired and supervised Murray. AEG says Jackson hired Murray and that any money the firm was supposed to pay him would have been loans to the singer.

The trial, in its fourth week, is expected to take as long as three more months.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-michael-jackson-trial-20130521,0,6307620.story

OMG! So once again the CLOAK has been lifted and the family's motives have been confirmed, in my opinion.

WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO THE JUSTICE THEY WERE SEEKING!!!!!!!

And what makes this revelation so astonishing is the fact they made a request for settlement TWICE. In my opinion, one request would have been more than enough. I mean, you make a request, they basically IGNORE you, so you move on. LOL! But not the Jackson family, they went back in and made a second request, showing exactly what they wanted from jumpstreet, i.e. THE MONEY!

Oh yeah, and Mr. Boyle should be dismissed immediately after going to the press with that soundbite. If anybody should have run to the press with that bit of information it should have been AEG, and what I find interesting is that AEG is not the entity who released this information.

They asked TWICE for a settlement. Is it just me, or does it appear that SOMEBODY'S desperation was showing?
 
I find Jacksons actions repulsive. The headline says it all, Jackson's side "offered" settlement, not AEG but Jacksons.
I would think if they have so called "smoking gun", AEG would be the one "offering" settlement, but despite of this so called smoking gun, and despite AEG's insurance would have paid it, AEG says no.

Big Apple 2, their so called justice goes out of the window when there is enough money on the table.
 
I find Jacksons actions repulsive. The headline says it all, Jackson's side "offered" settlement, not AEG but Jacksons.
I would think if they have so called "smoking gun", AEG would be the one "offering" settlement, but despite of this so called smoking gun, and despite AEG's insurance would have paid it, AEG says no.

Yeah Bubs, I agree with you.

I also noted Putnam's comments "equaling a settlement to a shakedown."

I still can't understand why Boyle would go public with that information. He played himself AND HIS CLIENT'S, in my opinion.

I can hear Randy Jackson now, i.e. "just go in there and ask them to settle, I'm not interested in taking the witness stand." LOL!
 
Tygger;3827479 said:
Bubs, Ivy, I do not feel the plaintiffs’ lawyers are doing a good job because they are presenting their case first. I believe they are doing a good job because they are. The plaintiffs would not hire an average legal team when they can afford the best. This team is focused in that each witness has shown the doctor to be negligent, that AEG most likely hired the doctor, and/or they were negligent in their hiring. There has not been a witness that did not testify to one of those three criteria.

jackson lawyers are good, there's no debate about it. But still we are just seeing one side of the argument. I thought yesterday's cross was quite significant and favorable for AEG. it turned out Kenny was employed and paid after an executed written contract - the same situation with Karen Faye and rest of them. It also turned out that even at the first submission to the Estate, AEG was not asking for $300,000 for Murray. To me it looked like Jackson lawyers omitted mentioning the footnote - which I would not like if I was a jury. That shows deception, twisting the facts.

Personally, I do not see the importance of Faye’s memory lapse. Dr. Forecast was most likely not hired by the tour promoter or producer. Dr. Finkelstein will speak to his deposition that he spoke directly to Gongaware about Michael and issues he felt he had.

According to the documents some tour doctors (don't know if it's Dr. Forecast or Dr. Ratner) was hired by the producer / promoter of the tours. I believe it would come up during AEG's defense that there have been doctors hired by producer before and hence it was not a red flag for Michael having a doctor.

Karen's memory lapse also can be shown to question the credibility of her stories. If she thinks Michael left for rehab in 93 without telling anyone anything and even he did not know but then it turns out she was there with Michael when he was doing the 93 announcement, it's a serious memory lapse. As Karen so eloquently stated that they "got her" such memory lapses can be used to argue that what she thinks she remembers can be wrong as well. It's a credibility / believebility issue. I can tell you that statistically jurors will be more likely to believe a person who is confident and clear (such as this happened at 9:15 AM and I'm absolutely sure because I checked my watch just before) than a person that's unsure (such as I don't know for sure, it could be 8 AM it could be after the lunch, all I know it was daytime).

For jurors doing the “right thing,” again, it is not monitored which is why there is normally no evidence. We will never know. The defendants can still bring up current accusations without saying the accuser’s name or presenting any of his ridiculous claims.

they can't. not without asking the judge before to allow it. if they or any of the witnesses blurt it on the stand, the judge will probably remove it from the record.

I believe “ugly stuff” will happen with Gongaware on the stand and AEG may wish they could have avoided this with the settlement.

AEG's calling the settlement offers a "shakedown" is quite obvious that they aren't interested in a settlement. I don't believe AEG is afraid or wanting to avoid anything. We know they had 2 offers from Jacksons and did not take it.

Bubs;3827496 said:
That is the reason for article earlier this year that jackson "Insider" said that they are expecting $ 100 million settlement from AEG.

Insider said a settlement of $500 Million to $1 Billion.

Big Apple2;3827543 said:
I still can't understand why Boyle would go public with that information. He played himself AND HIS CLIENT'S, in my opinion.

this is what I think

It is still an attempt for a settlement.

First came the email leak - which did not work.

Then came the high $40 Billion damages to scare them - which did not work.

Now Jacksons are opening the door to the settlement with public mention of it.

If AEG offered any settlement, people would look to it and say "oh they are guilty so they paid money to make it go away and keep it a secret". However when Jacksons say "we are willing to settle and not pursue this lawsuit", it gives the message that the parties can come to a harmonious middle ground. In this instance for example AEG can settle and then go and say for example "for the sake of everyone involved we decided to solve our differences and not continue this any more" - that would be a harmonious and not accepting guilt type of settlement.

settlement has some advantages over trial

- trials are public,during testimony a lot of stuff becomes public domain. A settlement before trial allows to keep everything private and even settlement conditions can be confidential.

- you can settle for less (at least half or less than half of the damages asked).

- it gives a guaranteed outcome when you never know how a jury will decide

this is why I think email leak was the first step. It was to send message "look we have your emails and more and more of them will become public during trial". and a $40 billion damages number were submitted to AEG. It was all to make them think "oh we don't want these emails out" or say "let's have our insurance pay Jacksons 1 billion, it's a lot better than being ordered to pay $40 billion"

in my mind this new news story is to remove AEG's possible concern of " if we settle people will think we are guilty". If Jacksons take the first step and say "we want to find the middle ground" it would allow AEG to settle without looking like they are admitting to guilt.
 
Ivy, do you think AEG will settle or are they going to fight this on principle?

I can't help but wonder how the 3 kids feel about this? The Jackson's being so anxious to settle seems to indicate they aren't interested in the truth or justice for Michael. I have a feeling the jury will see this for what it is. #AGreedyFamily
 
Ivy, do you think AEG will settle or are they going to fight this on principle?

I can't help but wonder how the 3 kids feel about this? The Jackson's being so anxious to settle seems to indicate they aren't interested in the truth or justice for Michael. I have a feeling the jury will see this for what it is. #AGreedyFamily

Putnam calling it "shakedown" makes it seem like they don't have any desire to settle.

that being said

I would still consider a final minute (before the verdict comes) settlement a possibility. AEG is looking to a I believe possible $1.5 Billion verdict, if they think their case presentation was not as strong as they want it to be, they can still settle. It's also a tactic that parties use. For example if the Jacksons become concerned at the end of the trial that AEG might win, they might be willing to settle for less. It's money issue as well.

The settlement offer January - before summary judgment - probably was higher. (all claims were standing then, a 40 billion damages was submitted - then offered settlement could be $1 billion)

The one in March - after several claims dismissed - should be a lower amount than the first one. (two defendants and two claims were dismissed by then, the settlement offer could have been lowered to 500 Million)

A last minute settlement - if both parties not feeling confident who will win- can get even lower. (if both of the parties feel like they can win or lose, they can for example choose to settle for $250 Million. as it is better than nothing and removes the limbo. If either one feels confident they would win, there would not be a settlement)

just never say never.
 
I said before the trial began that if the Jacksons were offered a decent amount of money to settle they would have done it. If they are seeking justice a one dollar payment would have suited me if AEG accepted responsibility. Long way to go in the trial yet but I have a feeling the result could fall far short of what the Jacksons are hoping for.
 
I said before the trial began that if the Jacksons were offered a decent amount of money to settle they would have done it. If they are seeking justice a one dollar payment would have suited me if AEG accepted responsibility. Long way to go in the trial yet but I have a feeling the result could fall far short of what the Jacksons are hoping for.
I agree.

I mean, they could have made a meaningful statement by suing for 1 dollar, while saying that "this is not about money, it's about justice."

We know it was never about justice for Michael.

IF AEG would come in with a settlement today, the Jackson's would scoop it up, and that would be the end of it. They would just go on their merry ways, NEW CAR shopping probably, and any so-called justice for Michael would be over and done with. All of that evidence they CLAIM to have against AEG, would go to some attorney's File Department, never to be heard from again.

The Jackson's know nothing about justice. They probably spell justice: M-O-N-E-Y!
 
Insider said a settlement of $500 Million to $1 Billion.

Sorry, you are right. I was thinking the amount of restitution that Jackson's refused to take from CM.

Lets say if the trial proceeds and reached the end and if jury finds AEG guilty of negligent hiring and wants to award plaintiff with $ 1 million. Would AEG's insurance carrier still pay that amount or their insurance only pays for settlement?
 
Are you telling Katherine's lawyer leak this piece of information to the media that clearly will damage the jackson case and make them look greedy? Unbelievable! (My conspiracy mode :) Though I never doubt the Jackson's motive of the trial $$$$$. It's clear from day one they never care of Michael, the trial is the shame. AEG and the Jacksons are the same. All have michael's blood in their hands.
 
I don't see AEG do a settlement. They can win or lost, but they will appel after the verdict, so it can go until the end of next year this trial. Anthony Mc Cartney, who reported tweets about this trial said few days ago, the trial can go on after August, so it will be long.

And AEG is not guilty in this trial, the only people guilty in this trial are Murray and Michael, who hired Murray and asked him for Propofol, so it's not AEG who must pay for that.

Anyway, it was funny last night to see the niece of Frank Dileo, ( @annamariex0 ) calling Joe and Katherine Jack$on some names on twitter for what they are doing and what they did to win some money on MJ's back and Dileo's back.
 
Anna Marie Drago ?@annamariex0 7m
Funny how the Jackson's are saying that AEG forced Michael Jackson to hire my uncle, Frank Dileo, which is a lie!!

Anna Marie Drago ?@annamariex0 4m
I was at my uncles house when joe AND Katherine called my uncle begging him to come back and manage Michael!!

Anna Marie Drago ?@annamariex0 3m
The Jackson's are fake people and everyone feeds into their bullshitt!!

Anna Marie Drago @annamariex0
Also if you don't know my Uncle DON'T talk shit! He was a great person and a great friend to Michael Jackson!!! I'm So sick of this shit!

I'm not sure whether I have forgotten or did I even see anything related to Jacksons saying that AEG forced MJ to hire DiLeo?
Where they say that?
 
Thanks for posting those tweets Bubs.

In my opinion, Joe and Mother wanted Frank to rep Michael again, because they figured they could get Frank to talk Michael into doing the AllGood Entertainment concert.

If I recall correctly, it was Joe Jackson who told that dude from AllGood to get in contact with Frank DiLeo, because Michael would listen to Frank

Now they got the NERVE to say AEG was putting all sorts of pressure on Michael. What the heck about them and their pal Leonard Rowe!
 
Insider said a settlement of $500 Million to $1 Billion.

It sounds like a lot of money to me. No surprise from the Jacksons...The amount si so big, it doesn't surprise me AEG refused to settle for such an amount.
 
I now wonder what's gonna happen when various members of the Jackson family are called to the witness stand. Will there be different excuses as to why this one or that one is unable to show up on a particular day for whatever reason.

I mean, getting them to show up for their depositions (some, not all) was hard enough. What's gonna happen when it's time for them to be put on the HOT SEAT. Oops, I mean the witness stand.
 
What was the reason again that Jackson's wanted to sue AEG?
To prove to the world the truth about what happened to Michael Jackson, once and for all.

They are offering settlement, so what exactly was proved to the world what happen to Michael?
AEG is not going to suffer in any way or effect on them, if the case is that insurance company pays settlement, so what was the point for Jackson's even sue them?



"In my opinion, Joe and Mother wanted Frank to rep Michael again, because they figured they could get Frank to talk Michael into doing the AllGood Entertainment concert.

If I recall correctly, it was Joe Jackson who told that dude from AllGood to get in contact with Frank DiLeo, because Michael would listen to Frank"

Did that come up in this trial or where it was said that K & J wanted Dileo to be Michael's manager?
 
Did that come up in this trial or where it was said that K & J wanted Dileo to be Michael's manager?

It comes up with the EMails from Dileo. Jacksons wants them from his attorney, obvousily they hope to prove AEG wanted him to be his manager not Michael
 
"In my opinion, Joe and Mother wanted Frank to rep Michael again, because they figured they could get Frank to talk Michael into doing the AllGood Entertainment concert.

If I recall correctly, it was Joe Jackson who told that dude from AllGood to get in contact with Frank DiLeo, because Michael would listen to Frank"

Did that come up in this trial or where it was said that K & J wanted Dileo to be Michael's manager?

I don't think it was brought up thus far, if ever.

But my guess is, if they bring it up at all, it will be during AEG's presentation.

It MIGHT even be in Frank's emails. Now that would be downright hilarious, if there are emails from Frank talking about how Ma and Pa Jackson were begging him to be Michael's manager again. There might even be emails from Frank to whomever, talking about how unhappy Michael was that his parents along with Leonard Rowe were trying to be all up in his business, i.e. that meeting in Beverly Hills.

And even MORE emails from Frank explaining how the family was putting PRESSURE on Michael to perform in that AllGood Entertainment FAMILY Reunion Concert.

You know how it is, when looking for one thing, you happen upon a whole bunch of OTHER stuff.
 
January 24, 2009 -- agreement entered with Dr. Tohme Tohme. Trell said MJ was involved and signed this agreement. "This agreement was entered into January 26, Trell testified. "There are conditions that needed to be met before any payment could be made." One of the the conditions was placement of non-appearance insurance, Trell said. That placement was done in late April, early May. In May, AEG received letter from MJ saying Tohme didn't rep him anymore. "No payments were ever made under this agreement," Trell explained. (ABC7)

I just picked this from the news summary.
This is significant for the MJ Estate vs Tohme lawsuit. isn't Tohme claiming that he was still working for MJ till his death?
 
One of the emails shown to jury was from Jackson estate co-executor John Branca, sent 5 days before Jackson’s death. Branca wrote Phillips, Gongaware and other AEG execs on June 20th that he had an spiritual/substance abuse expert who could work with MJ.(AP) John Branca, Jackson’s attorney, also chimed in, sending an email marked “confidential” to a handful of people, including Phillips, Gongaware and Leiweke. (LATimes) Branca asked whether there were substance abuse issues, but wrote that the issue might be best discussed on the phone. The email was sent the same day that a meeting was held at Jackson’s home with Murray. No further info given to jury.

Branca did try to help MJ more in 5 days than mother did in 5 years.
I would like know what was the replies about substance abuse but I suppose we won't seen them as if it was talked on the phone, altough below email indicates that they didn't know:

Email from Phillips to Gongaware on 6/20/09 at 1:52 am : Tim and I are going to see him tomorrow, however, I'm not sure what the problem is Chemical or Physiological? (ABC7)
 
passy001;3827826 said:
I just picked this from the news summary.
This is significant for the MJ Estate vs Tohme lawsuit. isn't Tohme claiming that he was still working for MJ till his death?

I think the estate knows about that letter as they write about his termination in probate notes:
Left unchecked until he was terminated in or about March 2009 (but no later than April 14, 2009), Tohme used his powers as Jackson's fiduciary and agent to take possession of both money and valuable personal property belonging to Jackson that he never returned to Jackson or the Executors, or property accounted for.

I'm interested hearing todays testimony as Trell will be testifying about Tohme. He is a crook Jackson's should have gone after:angry:
Todays testimony:
Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 43m
Tour cancellation insurance wasn’t obtained for “This Is It” tour until late April, after Tohme had been fired.

So Tohme was kicked out prior to late April?
 
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Bubs;3827828 said:
One of the emails shown to jury was from Jackson estate co-executor John Branca, sent 5 days before Jackson’s death. Branca wrote Phillips, Gongaware and other AEG execs on June 20th that he had an spiritual/substance abuse expert who could work with MJ.(AP) John Branca, Jackson’s attorney, also chimed in, sending an email marked “confidential” to a handful of people, including Phillips, Gongaware and Leiweke. (LATimes) Branca asked whether there were substance abuse issues, but wrote that the issue might be best discussed on the phone. The email was sent the same day that a meeting was held at Jackson’s home with Murray. No further info given to jury.

Branca did try to help MJ more in 5 days than mother did in 5 years.
I would like know what was the replies about substance abuse but I suppose we won't seen them as if it was talked on the phone, altough below email indicates that they didn't know:

Email from Phillips to Gongaware on 6/20/09 at 1:52 am : Tim and I are going to see him tomorrow, however, I'm not sure what the problem is Chemical or Physiological? (ABC7)

Sort of hard for the Jackson to "claim" that NOBODY was willing to help Michael, when these emails clearly say differently.

But as I said before, you can make suggestions to a person until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't mean that person will listen and/or take heed to said suggestions.

I mean, didn't Travis Payne testify that "he (or they) had arranged from some type of specialist to work with Michael," but at the last minute Michael declined, saying that he didn't want his personal space invaded (or words to that effect).
 
I now wonder what's gonna happen when various members of the Jackson family are called to the witness stand. Will there be different excuses as to why this one or that one is unable to show up on a particular day for whatever reason.

I mean, getting them to show up for their depositions (some, not all) was hard enough. What's gonna happen when it's time for them to be put on the HOT SEAT. Oops, I mean the witness stand.

They are offering settlement, so what exactly was proved to the world what happen to Michael?
AEG is not going to suffer in any way or effect on them, if the case is that insurance company pays settlement, so what was the point for Jackson's even sue them?



"In my opinion, Joe and Mother wanted Frank to rep Michael again, because they figured they could get Frank to talk Michael into doing the AllGood Entertainment concert.

If I recall correctly, it was Joe Jackson who told that dude from AllGood to get in contact with Frank DiLeo, because Michael would listen to Frank"

Did that come up in this trial or where it was said that K & J wanted Dileo to be Michael's manager?

This "settlement" offer becomes public right when Frank's emails are found, so maybe there's a link.

from AEG verdict form :
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...kson-and-AEG?p=3800919&viewfull=1#post3800919

15. Was Katherine Jackson's negligence or wrongful conduct a substantial factor in causing Michael Jackson's death?


Yes / No

Please go on question 16.

16. Please identify the percentage of the total negligence and fault for Michael Jackson's death was due to conduct of Michael Jackson, Katherine Jackson and each defendant you answered yes in question 11. The percentages must add to 100%.

Michael Jackson ____%
Katherine Jackson____%
AEG Live ________%
AEG Live Productions____%
Gongaware _______%
Phillips _________%

It looks like AEG will go after the Jacksons, they might not enjoy it when they are on the stand.

When is the final verdict form going to be decided ? At the end of the testimonies ?

But then , again, if it's a settlement for 500 millions/ 1 billion , it's a bluff, they just want to say it publicly for some reason. No way AEG is going to settle for such a ridiculous amount IMO, wouldn't that be close to what they would have to pay if found liable ? So AEG is not going to get caught in "negociations" that could "leak" again and make them look bad, they don't need to. If they want to settle, it will happen if and when they feel things are not turning out good for them. I guess the jacksons will testify at the end of AEG's presentation to keep a little bit of suspense.

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Totally unrelated, I read Ivy's summary of Karen's testimony so far. From AEG's questions, I think that they are going to say that Michael used propofol during History tour and for the HBO performance, and that no one noticed it. Karen said she didn't notice anything about drugs during those tour/show. And Kenny said that what happened in June 09 reminded him of what happened during the HBO rehearsals. Though I don't see the link with what the Jacksons have been saying so far.
 
Sort of hard for the Jackson to "claim" that NOBODY was willing to help Michael, when these emails clearly say differently.

But as I said before, you can make suggestions to a person until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't mean that person will listen and/or take heed to said suggestions.

I mean, didn't Travis Payne testify that "he (or they) had arranged from some type of specialist to work with Michael," but at the last minute Michael declined, saying that he didn't want his personal space invaded (or words to that effect).

It's not what I understand so far- But i haven't been following closely until the trial started, so maybe I missed soome stuff.

What I understand so far, is that they're not saying AEG was unwilling to help, they're saying that AEG created a dangerous sitauation by negligently hiring Murray that lead them to get involved in Michael's health problems, misundersand the situation , take wrong decisions that made things worse.

The dangerous situation is let the production costs become a problem, and then hire Murray instead of letting Michael deal with it, by paying him an advance . Insurance was not completely secured. Money , and so time, became a problem. AEG was afraid of a cancellation, because production costs were bigger than what the insurance would have paid. They misunderstood the problem, thinking Michael had psychological issues, and put him and Murray under pressure, which made things worse.

Ideally, production costs would not have gotten out of hand, they would not have gotten involved with Murray, the situation would have been easier to deal with.
instaed of pressuring Michael to rehearse, they could/should have allowed more time, and could / should even have suspected Murray. Since they "chose" to get involved with Michael's health by hiring Murray, they could have supervised him with other "harmless" healthcare profesionals (nutritionnist, psychologist, physical therapist) that would have spotted that Murray's behavior was weird. They would never have suspected propofol, but they would have alerted about Murray's behaviour.

That's what i understand so far. It's merely assumptions, we'll see how Panish will connect the dots, and how AEG will present their side of the story. That's why AEG's defense , or at least what we've seen of it so far, (Michael being an extreme drug addict who fooled everyone, minimising Murray's role, attacking the Jacksons) seems very weak to me, and even worse than what the jacksons have been doing so far. It sounds like they're only trying to reduce the damages, but they don't answer the questions.

About Michael refusing the physical therapist, I bet Murray is behind this, and told Michael he didn't need them. It can be seen as red flag, Murray should have welcomed the help.

It's clear how AEG wants to deal with Murray , I'm not sure about the Jacksons if Murray eventually testifies.

To be completely honest, i could be influenced by my culture. I'm french, and here, an employer or partner getting involved with someone's health is a huge NO NO. I'm pretty sure AEG would be found liable here. The doctor can NOT be your employee, or independant contractor, or connected with you in any way. You don't discuss anything with a doctor other than the dates the person will be unavailable, or, if necessary, how to adapt the work to a sick employee. If a doctor requests that the work be adapted, you will have to accept it, in some cases it will have to be confirmed by a second doctor.
For example, when we are on sick leave, the employer doesn't know the reason, he just knows the dates. As an employer, you're not even supposed to call the sick employee on the phone at home, that could be seen as pressuring the employee.
If something happens at work, an employee gets sick or has an accident, if you are not a medical professional, you don't assume anything. If you don't want to be held responsible, as a manager, the only reasonable thing to do is to call a doctor, and let the doctor make the decision with the employee. You would leave the room and let them talk, and let them make a decsion without interfering whatsoever.
If an employee is on a sick leave and comes to work, you're expected to send him/her back home, even if the employee wants to work. If you don't , you can be found liable if something happens.
So maybe our way of seeing this is influencing my perception of what we're hearing so far, I don't know how these things work in the US.
 
It comes up with the EMails from Dileo. Jacksons wants them from his attorney, obvousily they hope to prove AEG wanted him to be his manager not Michael
Maybe they want te e mails between Frank and AEG about Michael's health.
 
Ted Fikre, the general counsel for AEG , mockingly called Michael a "freak" in his email. Shown in court today.

How can anyone who cares about Michael, stick up for those freaking bullies any longer?
 
Don't even go there. No one was forcing Michael to work with AGE. How many times have talked bad about a person behind there back? There are people who claim they love Michael who have called him worst
 
Why did this person call him a freak? That's not nice. I don't see any good guys on either side here.
 
I don't like Michael being called a freak, but it's true what Justthefacts says, some people call others bad names; that's mean but doesn't mean they're responsible for Conrad's actions. The Jackson's attorneys just want to inflame the jurors, hope they're smarter than the atty. If Michael would have heard that probably he would be hurt, but it's up to his family now, they should ask for a settlement. The most honorable thing the Jackson could have done Michael was not to go forward with this lawsuit, respect his wishes & defend him when someone accuses him of child molestation.
 
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