bouee;3855289 said:
Afternoon maybe, why not, midday I don't think so. Kai Chase did not mention that in her testimony (she was not asked). She said she would work until 6.30 pm to 8.30 pm, depending on the days. When I read it, I thought it was later in the evening/night, like right nefore Michael would come back. A security cam video was played at CM's trial of the night of the 24th, I think it showed Murray arriving at Carolwood 30mn before Michael ? (not sure, will try to look it up later)
I don't think it could be evening. Murray came a believe 10 or so minutes before and the kids say they did not see Michael when he came home around 1:30 (as they were probably sleeping). So Prince seeing Randy and Murray after 1 AM, calling Michael, giving them food and going to bed before Michael comes seems to be not possible.
so I would say mid day / afternoon.
I wonder if this could be June 18. There has been a claim of a "riot meeting" - by Karen which she said Ortega came back and told her Phillips told Michael he would pull the plug. I kinda remember in criminal trial Ortega denied he was present for such meeting (but I'm not sure).
Tygger;3855309 said:
This is the correct protocol. The plaintiffs cannot simply say she is not testifying; a doctor must excuse her.
plaintiffs are in control of who they call to the stand. They don't need a doctors note to not call Paris to testify. A doctors note can only determine if AEG can call her - if they even want to.
Ivy, one of the issues in this trial is Gongaware being aware of Michael’s dependency issues in the past and how doctors’ accommodated those issues.
The issue is you are approaching it like a fact however the reality is there had been a claim of Gongaware being told about MJ's dependency issues (we are yet to see Dr. Finkelstein deposition / testimony) and Gongaware denied it. there's no way to know what will the jury will decide about what Gongaware knew or did not know.
Dr. Matheson did not suggest Michael being taken to an ER by force. He suggested an ER so Michael would be seen by a neutral doctor; one not beholden to AEG and one not controlled by Michael as Dr. Earley suggested.
So you agree that if Michael said "no", he couldn't be seen by a neutral doctor - unless of course as Dr. Metheson continues to say "Phillips said you cannot come back to rehearsals after you see a doctor" - which is a threat.
A personal doctor should be allowed to continue to treat Michael whether the tour was terminated or cancelled.
And he could have, he treated Michael for 3 years before the tour and he could have continued to treat Michael for 30 years after the tour - as long as Michael wanted him.
The only way to avoid conflict was for AEG to not deal with the doctor whatsoever except to advance monies to Michael to pay him.
Dr. Matheson disagrees with you or you disagree with him. He said such would still make Murray feel beholden to AEG.
Ivy, I will admit to being shocked by that post. I will simply say, none of this makes him an anesthesiologist.
Well you go back and re-read it you'll see there's no reason to be shocked. I
never said it makes him an anesthesiologist, I talked about competency for general care. It was there, really simple to see.
If you need further clarification : some people say why Murray was hired given he was a cardiologist and Michael did not have a heart problem. My post said Murray was also an internal medicine doctor which is by all standards competent to handle general care of adults. It's a fact.
No part of my post talked about Propofol or anesthesiology in any way.
elusive moonwalker;3855311 said:
Intresting that jr confirmed the mj gave murray money via them when they were back in vegas.
not many realize that Prince created an employment between Michael and Murray long before even AEG come into the picture.
