Official Statement From The Estate Of Michael Jackson To The Fans

[CaptainEoLove85]

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Ok, having listened to the new mix a couple times, I'm really not sure what to think. It sounds a little more like Michael, but it still doesn't really feel like a Michael Jackson song to me. I don't get that "OMG I love this" feeling from this song. It's just...average. I really doubt Michael would have wanted this released. I'm still not sure if I want to buy the album or not. I want to hear the other tracks.

 

[Petrarose]

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agree the new mix is great!!!!!!!!!!!

In this new mix are you hearing less of the impersonator and more of Michael, or is it that the sound is clearer?

 

[HIStory]

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Thanx for posting respect77

I just wanna know where this comes from. Did the Estate lie in the announcement about all those experts? Wait and see..... It's not over folks. Stop jumping to conclusions just because the Estate claimed something. It might not even be true.

BTW, the more I listen BN the more I think it's not MJ (and yes, I'm listening to the new version). If this song would be played on radio without someone telling it's MJ I'd never tell it's him. It never happened with any other song of his. You can immediately recognize him. But in this one with every occasion I listen to it it sounds less and less MJ.

 

[barok232]

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Yes, this is a new mix, imo. Or I have just gone completely mad. Could one of you audiophiles compare this with the first mix that was released and give us your opinion?

No it sounds the same. But you haven't gone mad either. You are just getting used to the song by hearing again and again that you start to give in to the idea that it is Michael, because deep inside you want to believe it is him. Unfortunately still doesn't sound like him (because I 've checked for the last time, not willing to hear possible "clearer" mixes in the future)

 

[Laura_Jo]

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http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/FR/ THIS is redone THIS is Michael all through it. I am actually bobbing my head to it. THIS IS ALL HIM. you can tell there is no other odd voice on there.

I actually just forced myself to listen to it again because of what you said. Going to have to respectfully disagree.

I'm truly, truly bamboozled at people thinking this Enrique/Jason/Justin bland averageness is Michael Jackson. Gobsmacked. All I can think is the more you hear it the more your ears get used to it and accept the sound.

 

[crismjj]

well, were sorry that michael doesnt soung like on thriller album!!!!!! its recorded in 2007 !!!!!!!!!!! Live with it and face it!!!!! and be happy for what youre getting!! you cant hear Michael because you dont want to hear him, and maybe you are disapointed because you dont like the song so you dont admit its him!!!

I´m not disapointed because of the song itself, I said it before that the song has potential, it has a good beat. But I know that his voice in 1997, for example, is not exactly the same like on Thriller album, or in Off the Wall. And I believe the way he sings, thet way he pronounces some words, give us a kind of pattern to identify and recognize his voice. Even in 2000 watts his voice is processed, I can say: this is Michael. But when lots of fans (not only myself) and a lot of other people start saying "wait a minute, this is not MJ´s voice", I think there´s something wrong in here.
And my hearing will not start changing, I have no idea how many times I´ve listened to this song and the acappela version. However, everytime I hear it, my opinion is the same: This is not MJ!!

And this doesn´t make me a stupid person. I think you should respect other people´s opinions. You don´t need to agree to what I think, and I don´t need to agree with you. But regardless of what you believe, I respect your position.

 

[butterflies]

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Do you really think Teddy Riley, Bruce Sweiden, Matt Forger, Stewart Brawley, Michael Prince, Dr. Freeze and Greg Phillinganes would all lie???

Most of those names aren't even associated with this album. What would they possibly have to gain?

Guys, Breaking News is obviously Michael Jackson. If you don't like the song, fair enough, I can understand your disappointment.

But it's him. Regardless of whether you think it might sound like someone else, it's not. That much is obvious now.

Exactly. It's just what I've thought since Monday, it's just how he was singing, and it's production. I think we need Teddy Riley to tell us what the heck he did to make him sound different. I wish we could hear the demo for it.
But I'm glad to have this confirmation from so many people because I really like the song, and now I don't have to feel guilty that I thought it was Michael, but it was really someone else.

 

[tricia70]

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Thank you for making us aware of the version on the website. It does sound more clearly like Michael. Not that I already didn't know it was Michael in the first place, But this is more crisp. Love it more if it is possible! HE HE!!:clapping:

 

[Laura_Jo]

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Heck, if they took off BN and the rest of the Cascio tracks and replaced it with random Interviews of Michael's through out the years I would be happy.

If they took off the Cascio tracks and replaced them with audio of MJ doing a poo I would be happy. uke:

Okay not happy but more happy!

It sounds like ol' Jason's doing a poo during his vibrato anyway so...

 

[defdave]

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All I can think is the more you hear it the more your ears get used to it and accept the sound.

I think that has to be what it is. It's just like with anything. If someone's told a lie over and over and over again, a small part of them starts to believe it even though they know it's not true. And it's just like when someone hates a movie or a song but when they're exposed to it enough it grows on them. Or (I know this is extreme but you get the point) when someone is kidnapped, after a while a part of their brain starts becoming attached to their abductor (horrible, I know...and sad). It's all psychological.

 

[Petrarose]

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No it sounds the same. But you haven't gone mad either. You are just getting used to the song by hearing again and again that you start to give in to the idea that it is Michael, because deep inside you want to believe it is him. Unfortunately still doesn't sound like him (because I 've checked for the last time, not willing to hear possible "clearer" mixes in the future)

You see that is why I do not want to hear the song again. I listed to it once at 1:30am on Monday, then posted; and then listed to it once later in the evening. I still had the same feelings about it. Now people are hearing something different. Where is that guy who was giving some technical information yesterday--DeeBee, I think. I want to hear from him.

DEEBEE,Where are you?????

 

[innuendo141]

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anyone able to get a rip of the new version so we can look at it more clearly with audio programs? pls

 

[L.T.D]

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If they took off the Cascio tracks and replaced them with audio of MJ doing a poo I would be happy. uke:

That would be awesome....unk:

The perfectionist MJ doing a poo.

I bet he could fart and burp Billie Jean perfectly.

 

[defdave]

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I think we need Teddy Riley to tell us what the heck he did to make him sound different.

It's a really neat studio trick called "Getting somebody else to do the lead vocals".

Nothing personal. I'm being facetious lol But yeah, that's what they did.

 

[callmerose]

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No it sounds the same. But you haven't gone mad either. You are just getting used to the song by hearing again and again that you start to give in to the idea that it is Michael, because deep inside you want to believe it is him. Unfortunately still doesn't sound like him (because I 've checked for the last time, not willing to hear possible "clearer" mixes in the future)

The vocals in this mix don't really sound that different to me, except maybe less layering. But I notice the percussion being more up front in the chorus. But like you said, it might just be repetitive listening. And you are right. I really do want it to be him. I am trying to convince myself that it is.

 

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

HAHA i Knew it was not fake!!!!, i allways knew, and allways supported this album. that makes all the people that was telling it was fake look stupid!!!!

:mello: Insults aren't necessary. Everyone can listen to the track and make their own decision. It would look very bad for the Estate and Sony to admit that the majority of the vocals on certain tracks are not Michael's and that's why I think it's very unlikely they will admit that.

not really. it makes people like you stupid for believing sony. smh. real mj fans know mr. michael jackson and his unique voice

I don't think it's necessary to call people real or fake fans. We all have our own positions I can understand that some people really want to believe and are trying to convince themselves that the majority of it is MJ.

LOL

:rofl:

I took it from another fan board but I cannot yet track down if it's authentic or not, but interesting if true. Who is Christophe Petitclerc?


Christophe Petitclerc Nah, Bruce Swedien didn't support Breaking News, this is just a lie. Teddy did though. I don't know why...
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Christophe Petitclerc ‎1) we don't know if the statement is indeed coming from the estate, it was made public by a fan website, which is weird.

2) I think Bruce is in studio right now, he might not have heard about the so called statement yet. Bruce doesn't read fan websites/forums.
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Cory Rooney Bruce is not the type to get involved with this kind of stuff. If that statement was made by the estate, it was lawyers and managers and not the Jackson family.
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I don't know...I Googled the name but nothing really came up. It looks like these are from Facebook. Thanks for sharing.

Obviously the very fact they even had to bring in all these people to try and prove whether it is or isn't MJ shows there were serious doubts from the beginning if it was really MJ or not.

And now they are releasing alternate versions of "BN" that are sounding better then the first. And then they say it's 100% MJ, then they say there's someone else also singing.

And what version of vocals did all these producers and engineers hear?

So what is going on? There are red flags everywhere.

When you hear MJ's voice you know instantly it's him on all his other songs yet on "BN" it sounds fake right from the start. It sounds 90% fake and 10% MJ.

So the point is, there were serious doubts as to the veracity of the vocals and song right from the start so it should NOT be released as a MJ song.

If they want to release it, just release the raw demo and let us know it might or might not be MJ in the demo. But don't say this is 100% MJ song when obviously it's not!

:clapping::clapping::clapping:

 

[Petrarose]

I´m not disapointed because of the song itself, I said it before that the song has potential, it has a good beat. But I know that his voice in 1997, for example, is not exactly the same like on Thriller album, or in Off the Wall. And I believe the way he sings, thet way he pronounces some words, give us a kind of pattern to identify and recognize his voice. Even in 2000 watts his voice is processed, I can say: this is Michael. But when lots of fans (not only myself) and a lot of other people starts saying "wait a minute, this is not MJ´s voice", I think there´s something wrong in here.
And my hearing will not start changing, I have no idea how many times I´ve listened to this song and the acappela version. However, everytime I hear it, my opinion is the same: This is not MJ!!

And this doesn´t make me a stupid person. I think you should respect other people´s opinions. You don´t need to agree with what I think, and I don´t need to agree with you. But regardless of what you believe, I respect your position.

I agree. The song has potential and should have been worked on more fully and credited as a song with a LITTLE MJ in it. If they put out a CD with duet songs, I will buy it as long as there is no impersonator. I do not want someone singing over him to pretend it is MJ. That is dishonest. Simply say MJ began this song and let us have it in demo form. I like demos.

 

[Laura_Jo]

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I think that has to be what it is. It's just like with anything. If someone's told a lie over and over and over again, a small part of them starts to believe it even though they know it's not true. And it's just like when someone hates a movie or a song but when they're exposed to it enough it grows on them. Or (I know this is extreme but you get the point) when someone is kidnapped, after a while a part of their brain starts becoming attached to their abductor (horrible, I know...and sad). It's all psychological.

So what you're saying is we need to kidnap all the 'It IS mj' believers and play them the She's Out of My Life acoustic until they learn what Michael actually sounds like? I'll get the van, you get the rope.

I knew what you meant really and totally agree. I don't think it's a new version and I don't think it's sounding better. At all. In fact, it's as bad as ever.

 

[stayeduptolate21]

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In this new mix are you hearing less of the impersonator and more of Michael, or is it that the sound is clearer?

A little bit of both you can definitely hear michael's voice more!!

 

[Ben]

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It's a really neat studio trick called "Getting somebody else to do the lead vocals".

ROFLMAO!!! Good one.

 

[Kirshach]

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it is different. in the monday version you could tell when Michael was replaced by __________ whoever. But now you can hear him clear through the song.

But the vocals didn't change at all, I've just compared with the version I ripped on monday :scratch:
You know, I had the same feeling on tuesday. I think many of us has accustomed to the song and liked it, as I did. But now when I turn on my mind and feelings again, I hear a different guy with different vibrato, timber and manner of performing, and no arguments can convince me this is MJ simply because my heart tells me different.
However, I'm sorry for you, so little people here respect their interlocutors.. We should all remember that any of us can be wrong, although at the moment most are 100% sure in their point of view

 

[Adibobea9]

No it sounds the same. But you haven't gone mad either. You are just getting used to the song by hearing again and again that you start to give in to the idea that it is Michael, because deep inside you want to believe it is him. Unfortunately still doesn't sound like him (because I 've checked for the last time, not willing to hear possible "clearer" mixes in the future)

Yup the lie is still there from the beginning and that is what's wrong with the song. Sony needs to confess the truth. I find myself enjoying the song more and it does sound more like Michael Jackson, although I still can hear the impostor singing backup on the "Michael Jackson" parts. Basically it is the devil's snare pulling you in with the beats, hoping it will become common and convince you that the lie no longer exists…

 

[butterflies]

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Not convinced either. I believe he wrote the song, and he's part of the vocals. But it's not 100% Michael, and shouldnt be on the album. Funny to read that they also had doubts though... I want an official report from the 2 musicologists. I want their names.
And I want to know why the song uploaded on mj.com has suddenly changed, b/c its clearly not the original version from monday.

LOL, It's the exact same version that's been on there all week long. You people kill me, you really do. Have you ever heard of T-pain? His voice sounds all distorted because of using auto tune, and I think that either Michael did something with the Cascios in the studio, or Teddy Riley has done something to it in production. Maybe he thought it sounded "cooler". I don't think they should have messed with it at all, and I really, really wish they would just find the demo of Michael singing it before anyone did anything to it, and we could all hear it. Either way, I don't see why people can't just accept that it is Michael no matter what.

 

[Petrarose]

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Well if they keep tinkering with the mix and uploading it, those who are not very knowledgeable about MJ's voice will be confused. I hope this is not what they are trying to do.

 

[L.T.D]

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LOL, It's the exact same version that's been on there all week long. You people kill me, you really do. Have you ever heard of T-pain? His voice sounds all distorted because of using auto tune, and I think that either Michael did something with the Cascios in the studio, or Teddy Riley has done something to it in production. Maybe he thought it sounded "cooler". I don't think they should have messed with it at all, and I really, really wish they would just find the demo of Michael singing it before anyone did anything to it, and we could all hear it. Either way, I don't see why people can't just accept that it is Michael no matter what.

Its more the the fact the person singing it sounds exactly like Jason Malachi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH2qOTNYAts

 

[Tipareth]

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That different vibrato... is computerized effect, not human. Stupid but it was added on certain vocals...

 

[butterflies]

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Fake statement!!!!!!!

:doh: Stop saying it's fake unless you have proof that it's fake. Geez, come on!! :doh:

 

[barok232]

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The vocals in this mix don't really sound that different to me, except maybe less layering. But I notice the percussion being more up front in the chorus. But like you said, it might just be repetitive listening. And you are right. I really do want it to be him. I am trying to convince myself that it is.

That I tried to do all day long on Monday, some may remember me experimenting with pitch and stuff. But it's impossible for me now. I 've heard more than enough and the acapellas and snippets also verified what my ears have been telling me since the first time I heard BN. If you can do that, (go to a happy place and be ok with yourself believing it's really him) then good for you.

 

[L.T.D]

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That different vibrato... is computerized effect, not human. Stupid but it was added on certain vocals...

Its not even the vibrato that gets me. Its just the comparison between Jason Malachi and the vocals on Breaking News in general. They are pretty much the same.

 

[knigofpop]

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I have always believed that the song is Michael. From the very first listening on monday morning right up until now, with and without all of the statements, reports, tweets and posts... for me, it is Michael in the majority of the song. Sure, I can hear that Michael doesn't sing the background and I can hear where they have copied and pasted various oooohs and aaaaahs.... but one thing confuses me....

I have listened to the song in various formats and over various stages of the week at Michaeljackson.com in the UK, US, and france... and I can't hear anything different in the mix from any part of the week. Is there a download anywhere of the 2 different mixes/versions of the song? And could somebody please PM me with it if it exists.

Many thanks in advance.... with the L.O.V.E x