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NEW SONG - Akon feat. Michael Jackson "Hold my hand" [updates in post #1]

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arXter said:
well it's not unheard of, but it is uncommon.

and i hope it doesn't go that way - that's just chart greedy lol
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Actually it doesn't affect the charts in that way. It's just good promotion. It would appear that MJ's project will not be released until after Akon's and from a business prospective, I would want the song on MJ's album to help sell it.

Nothing puts down shortsighted criticism than success and unfortunately, there are still many in the media who don't want MJ to launch a successful comeback. A hit record practically guarantees it, but more importantly, the perspection that MJ is back in his form will get people to buy his CD without questioning whether it's worth it.

We know that it's worth it, but we are hardcore fans. The fair weatherers and non fans are important for commerical success. That's why the feedback from others is so promising for his eventual success.
 
GAV001 said:
I don't like this song at all. Obviously it's good to hear some new MJ vocals but I still don't like the song. I think it's very very weak especially compared to ALL of MJ's previous work. I know this is an Akon song with MJ just lending some vocals but i'm still very disappointed. I really hope this song isn't going to be on MJ's new album for two reasons: 1) Because I don't like the song 2) If MJ is putting this song on his album it would suggest he doesn't have much strong material recorded for this new album so is being forced to put tracks on the album that I consider to be no where near good enough for an MJ album. Thats assuming that he is going to put Hold My Hand on his album, might not be true.

I'm surprised that more or less all the fans comments i've read say they really like this song. Now is this because you generally do like the song or is it just because it's MJ's first new song for ages?
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It could just be a bit of both, if this song was by Akon and JT I probably would have more bad words to say about it but thats because I dont like JT. If it was Mary J blige I would porbably be listen to it and thinks the same as MJ being on it, maybe I wouldnt enjoy it as much though. When its someone you like its makes something more enjoyable like when people go to see a movie just for an actor. The song isnt that great for me but I thinks its made better by MJs vocals enough so that I can find it enjoyable.
 
GAV001 said:
I don't like this song at all. Obviously it's good to hear some new MJ vocals but I still don't like the song. I think it's very very weak especially compared to ALL of MJ's previous work. I know this is an Akon song with MJ just lending some vocals but i'm still very disappointed. I really hope this song isn't going to be on MJ's new album for two reasons: 1) Because I don't like the song 2) If MJ is putting this song on his album it would suggest he doesn't have much strong material recorded for this new album so is being forced to put tracks on the album that I consider to be no where near good enough for an MJ album. Thats assuming that he is going to put Hold My Hand on his album, might not be true.

I'm surprised that more or less all the fans comments i've read say they really like this song. Now is this because you generally do like the song or is it just because it's MJ's first new song for ages?
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Well, just because you do not like it does not mean it is not a good song. When it comes to ANY kind fo music by ANY artist, ALL people have their reasons for liking or disliking a song so I would not be one to try to get into people's head on why they are liking a song. Also, you can not judge Michael's material based on ONE song. That is silly. But again, everyone has their own beliefs and likes or dislike vebe agai
 
BPYTD said:
I hope he doesnt do that at all. I think he should stay away from songs like that for this album. so I agree, but then again this isnt his single we dont know what hell release for his one so........
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You know the saying, "The first impression is a lasting one?" Well, by allowing this to be the first newly recorded song that he's in, this is what will be remembered as the very first song he sung. It's a happy song. By doing this, he gets to choose how he will channel his energy. He's doing it in a positive way. This leads upwards.
 
AllForMJ said:
You know the saying, "The first impression is a lasting one?" Well, by allowing this to be the first newly recorded song that he's in, this is what will be remembered as the very first song he sung. It's a happy song. By doing this, he gets to choose how he will channel his energy. He's doing it in a positive way. This leads upwards.
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Yeah, I agree with you. It will get him some good exposure hopefully positive like it has been so far with a nice safe universal song. You know its not the best and its not the worse but its proving some people wrong for those who say he aint got this anymore and he aint got that.
 
GAV001 said:
I don't like this song at all. Obviously it's good to hear some new MJ vocals but I still don't like the song. I think it's very very weak especially compared to ALL of MJ's previous work. I know this is an Akon song with MJ just lending some vocals but i'm still very disappointed. I really hope this song isn't going to be on MJ's new album for two reasons: 1) Because I don't like the song 2) If MJ is putting this song on his album it would suggest he doesn't have much strong material recorded for this new album so is being forced to put tracks on the album that I consider to be no where near good enough for an MJ album. Thats assuming that he is going to put Hold My Hand on his album, might not be true.

I'm surprised that more or less all the fans comments i've read say they really like this song. Now is this because you generally do like the song or is it just because it's MJ's first new song for ages?
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It's because the vast majority really loves the song. Even non fans and fans of other artists like it alot. That's all.
 
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mello1 said:
Actually it doesn't affect the charts in that way. It's just good promotion.
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promotion helps efficient charting no doubt. maybe i should have said material-greed because i mean the same thing.

Nothing puts down shortsighted criticism than success and unfortunately, there are still many in the media who don't want MJ to launch a successful comeback. A hit record practically guarantees it, but more importantly, the perspection that MJ is back in his form will get people to buy his CD without questioning whether it's worth it.

We know that it's worth it, but we are hardcore fans. The fair weatherers and non fans are important for commerical success. That's why the feedback from others is so promising for his eventual success.
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i believe Michael will be successful with stronger singles than Hold My Hand - i still like the tune, but from a quality over materialism perspective, i'd rather hear something different fill its place - every song counts, "filler" or not.

if we were to ride on this one tune for Michael's commercial and critical success, then he's in trouble. but that won't be the case because he will have more complex material, surely. i mean even if he were to release garbage, with just the right promotion he'd go a long way. unfortunately.
 
terrell said:
Well, just because you do not like it does not mean it is not a good song. When it comes to ANY kind fo music by ANY artist, ALL people have their reasons for liking or disliking a song so I would not be one to try to get into people's head on why they are liking a song. Also, you can not judge Michael's material based on ONE song. That is silly. But again, everyone has their own beliefs and likes or dislike vebe agai
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No offence as this isnt really to you. I've seen stuff like this all around the forum. But why when someone has a comment that isnt 100% positive people feel to jump on them with the "well its your opinion doesnt make it this, stop making things negative" what if it was the other way round and people weree mainly negative and whenever someone was positive people jumped on them with the Just because you like it doesnt mean the song it good stop trying to get people to like it. Everyone is just sharing there opinion. I dont see why negative comments about the song have to been see as putting people doing etc. This is a discussion board. I know that if all of you guys told me that Mary J blige was crap I wouldnt give a damn lol you can say what you like, I would just ask why and enjoy the convo and then go off being a fan as always. no harm done
And no offence so then are we silly for liking the song? were all judging from one song. I think MJs voice sounds better than invincible am I being silly b/c its one song
 
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BPYTD said:
Yeah, I agree with you. It will get him some good exposure hopefully positive like it has been so far with a nice safe universal song. You know its not the best and its not the worse but its proving some people wrong for those who say he aint got this anymore and he aint got that.
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Uh-huh. This is the type of song that the world will gravitate towards. It's world-friendly.
 
I have listened to this song about ten times now, and have tried to get into it, but I just can't. It's sad because I've missed Michael's tones, but it's still exciting that he is appearing somewhere.

The Billboard article which confirms this will be on MJ's album might indicate that the new album will be out sooner than we think!:angel:
 
I'm chillin' eating a cheesecake now with my sis, listening to Hold My Hand. So relaxing. :wild:
I really hope this will be out, I even prayed it will be out. :hysterical:

Aaaaah. It has to be. DSIGHJASbhsJ
 
GAV001 said:
I don't like this song at all. Obviously it's good to hear some new MJ vocals but I still don't like the song. I think it's very very weak especially compared to ALL of MJ's previous work. I know this is an Akon song with MJ just lending some vocals but i'm still very disappointed. I really hope this song isn't going to be on MJ's new album for two reasons: 1) Because I don't like the song 2) If MJ is putting this song on his album it would suggest he doesn't have much strong material recorded for this new album so is being forced to put tracks on the album that I consider to be no where near good enough for an MJ album. Thats assuming that he is going to put Hold My Hand on his album, might not be true.

I'm surprised that more or less all the fans comments i've read say they really like this song. Now is this because you generally do like the song or is it just because it's MJ's first new song for ages?
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Evidently you are among the 1% that does'nt care for this track and thats okay, not everybody is gonna like everything that MJ does, somebody has to be disppointed I suppose and right now thats you, but now most of us are extremely happy about this new song and hopefully Michael will do what HE PLEASES and not try to appease every fan/non-fan.
 
This song is a "sing-along" song. If you're on stage and you put the microphone to the audience, the audience will sing it in unison. Especially, the "hold my hand" part.
 
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arXter said:
promotion helps efficient charting no doubt. maybe i should have said material-greed because i mean the same thing.

i believe Michael will be successful with stronger singles than Hold My Hand - i still like the tune, but from a quality over materialism perspective, i'd rather hear something different fill its place - every song counts, "filler" or not.

if we were to ride on this one tune for Michael's commercial and critical success, then he's in trouble. but that won't be the case because he will have more complex material, surely. i mean even if he were to release garbage, with just the right promotion he'd go a long way. unfortunately.
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But that's just it. I really don't think it's about being materially greedy. If the industry was the same way it was when Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, etc. came out, I would say yeah, but because the market is so different, every marketing tool must be activated to move these albums these days.

I would like to hope that MJ will be more successful with his usual brand of music, but today it's simply not about quality. It's more about politics and who the corporate structure chooses to push. Actually, it's always been that way, but now, it's totally image over substance. Given what MJ has been thru this past years, his only card to play is to have an initial successful outcome period. People are already quick to write him off and brush him aside, and as I stated before, the critics are ready to pounce because they don't want him to be successful. They want him to remain as tabloid folly. That is not good for him or his legacy that he has spent his entire life building.

Regarding your comment about this song -- the key ingredient to commerical success on the pop charts is a song people can sing with a good melody, good bridge and good hook. Also good vocals add to its success. Songs need not be overly produced, or super complicated or lyrically 'deep' to strike a chord in people. This song, for those who love it is musically and lyrically soothing. It's calming in a world with a lot of problems in it right now. Timing is everything and this song speaks to the time that we are in. Michael provides a near angelic beginning vocal that has created this sensational buzz.

As I said before, the battle of perception is what MJ has to fight. He can put out the most beautiful, deep, musically complexed album of his career that only his fans get to enjoy because they won't play his stuff on the radio because of the perception of the garbage about his life that they want to override his status as a musician. And then we will sit here and moan and complain about why they won't play his song, why wasn't it more successful etc., etc. HMH was previously leaked with just Akon's vocals on it.

I don't recall it becoming international news. It was the version with MJ on it that did that and it shows that the song will be a runaway smash hit. That is exactly what MJ needs right now for his own career.

Gee. I'm becoming WBSS now! :)
 
u really are. im tired of all these damn essays, yo....bring the cliff notes version for lazy's like moi! jeeeeeeeeeez louissssssssssse!
 
Woaaah I like reading you guys essays though.
So nicely put together and all the complex words, I love it. I learn something new everytime. :rofl:
 
BPYTD said:
No offence as this isnt really to you. I've seen stuff like this all around the forum. But why when someone has a comment that isnt 100% positive people feel to jump on them with the "well its your opinion doesnt make it this, stop making things negative" what if it was the other way round and people weree mainly negative and whenever someone was positive people jumped on them with the Just because you like it doesnt mean the song it good stop trying to get people to like it. Everyone is just sharing there opinion. I dont see why negative comments about the song have to been see as putting people doing etc. This is a discussion board. I know that if all of you guys told me that Mary J blige was crap I wouldnt give a damn lol you can say what you like, I would just ask why and enjoy the convo and then go off being a fan as always. no harm done
And no offence so then are we silly for liking the song? were all judging from one song. I think MJs voice sounds better than invincible am I being silly b/c its one song
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Your comments aren't silly and I don't condone such characterizations. However, I think what is being said is that the majority of folks really like the song and how it was done, that's all.

As I stated yesterday after I cleaned out this thread, it is okay to state your opinion on this song. Not everyone is going to like it, and that's a given.

And it's okay.

But remember, you asked peeps why was it that members seemed to like this song because you stated that it surprised you that people liked it. People can easily take offense to the inferrence that you seem to suggest that everyone should not be liking this song -- just like you. So it works both ways. [on edit: GAV001 asked this question, not BPYTD]

Yet we can still agree to disagree without being thin-skinned about it. I think what was being said to you was that a song not good for you is a good song for someone else.
 
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GAV001 said:
I don't like this song at all. Obviously it's good to hear some new MJ vocals but I still don't like the song. I think it's very very weak especially compared to ALL of MJ's previous work. I know this is an Akon song with MJ just lending some vocals but i'm still very disappointed. I really hope this song isn't going to be on MJ's new album for two reasons: 1) Because I don't like the song 2) If MJ is putting this song on his album it would suggest he doesn't have much strong material recorded for this new album so is being forced to put tracks on the album that I consider to be no where near good enough for an MJ album. Thats assuming that he is going to put Hold My Hand on his album, might not be true.

I'm surprised that more or less all the fans comments i've read say they really like this song. Now is this because you generally do like the song or is it just because it's MJ's first new song for ages?
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so becuz u dnt like the song it shudnt go on mjs album? who r u again?
pple say they love the song cuz its a great song. the lyrics,mj vocals and melodies r great. harmony is amazing and the song is soothing. and suggestin he dont have strong tracks based on SOME1 ELSE'S SONG IS Not fair. for all u kno it cud be a bonus track on mjs album. thank u good day
 
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mello1 said:
But that's just it. I really don't think it's about being materially greedy. If the industry was the same way it was when Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, etc. came out, I would say yeah, but because the market is so different, every marketing tool must be activated to move these albums these days.

I would like to hope that MJ will be more successful with his usual brand of music, but today it's simply not about quality. It's more about politics and who the corporate structure chooses to push.
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this is where i'm desperately hoping that Mike will use his genius to put a dent in this vicious circle that nearly everyone must abide by.

As I said before, the battle of perception is what MJ has to fight. He can put out the most beautiful, deep, musically complexed album of his career that only his fans get to enjoy because they won't play his stuff on the radio because of the perception of the garbage about his life that they want to override his status as a musician.
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i already expressed how much i like Hold My Hand, but you just said it yourself here:

I don't recall it becoming international news. It was the version with MJ on it that did that and it shows that the song will be a runaway smash hit.
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which gives me hope that he can go a long way within his own comfort zone and not necessarily relying on cheap tactics (or however we can dance around what it is) of this numero uno promotion engine.

That is exactly what MJ needs right now for his own career.
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and he'll get it when Akon releases it. no doubt a hit single.

Gee. I'm becoming WBSS now! :)
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and she'll be proud lol i love essays, me
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also remember the Ebony interview - he has shown his dislike of the way the business is run. hopefully he'll do something about it rather than fall to its mercy.
 
mello1 said:
As I stated yesterday after I cleaned out this thread, it is okay to state your opinion on this song. Not everyone is going to like it, and that's a given.
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I absolutely love the song. In fact I heard it once I believe on Monday here and it has been in my head this entire week after only hearing it 1 time.

Pretty catchy tune if I do say so myself...

I :fortuneteller: great things ahead.

Sorry to all those who don't like it. Even if I didn't like it, I'm still extremely fortunate to hear some new MJ vocals.

His voice just pierces the heart!!!
 
mello1 said:
Your comments aren't silly and I don't condone such characterizations. However, I think what is being said is that the majority of folks really like the song and how it was done, that's all.

As I stated yesterday after I cleaned out this thread, it is okay to state your opinion on this song. Not everyone is going to like it, and that's a given.

And it's okay.

But remember, you asked peeps why was it that members seemed to like this song because you stated that it surprised you that people liked it. People can easily take offense to the inferrence that you seem to suggest that everyone should not be liking this song -- just like you. So it works both ways.

Yet we can still agree to disagree without being thin-skinned about it. I think what was being said to you was that a song not good for you is a good song for someone else.
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Sorry did I say that, I dont remember stating that, I DO like the song just not that much. Maybe you've read one of my posts wrong os confused me.
I werent tryingmake it personal to myself I just find somtimes members can jump on people that make negative comments
 
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BPYTD said:
No offence as this isnt really to you. I've seen stuff like this all around the forum. But why when someone has a comment that isnt 100% positive people feel to jump on them with the "well its your opinion doesnt make it this, stop making things negative" what if it was the other way round and people weree mainly negative and whenever someone was positive people jumped on them with the Just because you like it doesnt mean the song it good stop trying to get people to like it. Everyone is just sharing there opinion. I dont see why negative comments about the song have to been see as putting people doing etc. This is a discussion board. I know that if all of you guys told me that Mary J blige was crap I wouldnt give a damn lol you can say what you like, I would just ask why and enjoy the convo and then go off being a fan as always. no harm done
And no offence so then are we silly for liking the song? were all judging from one song. I think MJs voice sounds better than invincible am I being silly b/c its one song
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Well I am not jumping on you, I am just giving a point of view just like you. YOur poste seem to give the impression of QUESTIONING those who like it. That was the reason I responsed to your post, other than that, I would have not responsed. if you or anyones does not like the song, then do not like it BUT do not come out the the comment some of you all are liking the song because Michael has not been out in ages. I like the song because I JUST LIKE IT.
 
arXter said:
also remember the Ebony interview - he has shown his dislike of the way the business is run. hopefully he'll do something about it rather than fall to its mercy.
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I do agree with ya there arxter. The music standard MUST return to the industry. If MJ can do this, it will be good for the whole business.

But baby steps...
 
mello1 said:
Your comments aren't silly and I don't condone such characterizations. However, I think what is being said is that the majority of folks really like the song and how it was done, that's all.

As I stated yesterday after I cleaned out this thread, it is okay to state your opinion on this song. Not everyone is going to like it, and that's a given.

And it's okay.

But remember, you asked peeps why was it that members seemed to like this song because you stated that it surprised you that people liked it. People can easily take offense to the inferrence that you seem to suggest that everyone should not be liking this song -- just like you. So it works both ways.

Yet we can still agree to disagree without being thin-skinned about it. I think what was being said to you was that a song not good for you is a good song for someone else.
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SO true and that is basicly What I was saying. Like I said, if someone does not like the song, that is fine; however, do not dislike the song yet try to tell those who like that we must dislike the song because it is MIchael or because we have not heard from Michael in a while. Everyone is not going to like a song by MIchael (I am not a lover of Michael's song "be not always" but I do not try to get into the minds of the reason why some people do like the song).
 
terrell said:
Well I am not jumping on you, I am just giving a point of view just like you. YOur poste seem to give the impression of QUESTIONING those who like it. That was the reason I responsed to your post, other than that, I would have not responsed. if you or anyones does not like the song, then do not like it BUT do not come out the the comment some of you all are liking the song because Michael has not been out in ages. I like the song because I JUST LIKE IT.
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Terrell, do not allow them to spoil your joy. Let's hold hands and enjoy the song. :wub:
 
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BPYTD said:
Sorry did I say that, I dont remember stating that, I DO like the song just not that much. Maybe you've read one of my posts wrong os confused me.
I werent tryingmake it personal to myself I just find somtimes members can jump on people that make negative comments
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You are correct. That was not your comment. That was Gavin.

Also you are right about what you stated. We should be able to agree without taking offense to someone else's opposite opinion.
 
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