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New Katherine Jackson Interview, Life after Michael Jackson, raising his kids & laws

pilinlim said:
Actually, Katherine did try to contractually bound Michael's children to Howard Mann, a pornographic producer. According to the contract, MJ3 would have to work for free for Mann for the rest of their lives so Katherine could received 10000USD.
The contract was available on the Internet. Feel free to read it. It was, however, annuled on a court of law.

As you can see, Twinklee is not lying; she's just narrating what happened. Therefore, you ought to apologize to her or else I'm going to report you.


P.S.- People criticize the family because it has given us millions of reasons to do so.
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see this is what pisses me off..how the hell can children be left in the custody of a woman who is trying to KNOWINGLY do stuff like this...it is terrible....it really does disgust me.. NO MORE excuses for Katherine,
 
Sharon B. Sidney said:
twinklee it seems your sparkle has grown dark... I like your name though by the way however I feel compelled to stress that I feel your post is outright disgusting. What is it that moves you regurgitate your verbal attacks against Michael's family- especially his mother???

How dare you claim that Mrs. Katherine has bound Michael's children to a porn producer and take liberty of repeating that statement and your title of him continuosly as if it will build up weight through your repetitious use of the word porn.

Tell me, if some person was involved in any shady activity be it pornography, selling drugs, script writing, military etc. and perhaps someone wanted to lure them away from say murdering people with guns, drugs or stop them from influencing young minds in heinous depraved scriptgs or stop them from producing or directing pornographic movies would you be willing to allow that person to do so without passing judgement on both the one trying to help and the one whose sin you are aware of? Is it just because it's Michael's mother that your judgement stands so high?

Tell me if someone who has directed porn films seeks to get out of that industry would you have a heart to give them a chance or would you brand them with their past and consider them unsuitable for non pornagraphic projects? Perhaps since work would be in connection with something pertaining M8chael Jackson you'd consider them not good enough or pure enough? Well, just as Mrs. Katherine is doing Michael has worked with someone who directed pornography before though whether or not he knew at the time is yet to be known however I know and am sure you'd agree that Michael did not judge people in such a way as to prevent them from having other ways to make funds. Ola Ray posed for playboy, did that prevent her from being in Thriller? No, it gave her another way to make money and from that point on she had a choice (which she obviously had all along) after he'd allowed her to know a better way by not judging her from her shady past. Maybe you'll argue he didn't know that and rather than debate it let's reflect on how Michael spoke of wanting to help women to not prostitute themselves as well as him wanting to help the homeless.

I apologize for my anger and harshness in addressing you at the start of this comment but I become highly enraged when O see people trying or inadvertently attacking Mrs. Katherine and I get highly upset when people are judged for mistakes they have made.

I am not sure if this man she is working with has turned his life around or not but I know God could very well be using her to help him to do so and God bless her for not judging him as many other believers would be far too quick to do.

God's word says for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. It also says for the same measure of judgment we use to judge others God will use to judge us. We should all be gracious to others.

God bless!!!
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Ignorance at it's best displayed yet again, I claim so because she DID BIND THEM TO A CONTRACT. BEfore worshipping try to educate urself as ur completely unaware of anything happening. Oh and yes Michael worked with a porn guy, did he bind his children contractually to the guy? HELL NO! .Did he dare to bind other people's children to the porn guy he worked with? Hell NO. He wasn't the one selling MINOR CHILDREN out to a guy linked to the porn industry.
Used both ignore and report button. What a blessing these two buttons indeed are.
 
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pilinlim said:
Actually, Katherine did try to contractually bound Michael's children to Howard Mann, a pornographic producer. According to the contract, MJ3 would have to work for free for Mann for the rest of their lives so Katherine could received 10000USD.

The contract was available on the Internet. Feel free to read it. It was, however, annuled on a court of law.

As you can see, Twinklee is not lying; she's just narrating what happened. Therefore, you ought to apologize to her or else I'm going to report you.


P.S.- People criticize the family because it has given us millions of reasons to do so.
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Tsukiji said:
Exactly, Twinklee is not lying, these are facts she is stating...It's the reality of the situation, a sad sad reality, but it is what it is.
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Thanks to both of you. The ignorance displayed by these J Fam fanatics is pitiful.
 
There is a difference between ignorance and trying to insult

other people's intelligence.
 
Ignorance at it's best displayed yet again, I claim so because she DID BIND THEM TO A CONTRACT. BEfore worshipping try to educate urself as ur completely unaware of anything happening. Oh and yes Michael worked with a porn guy, did he bind his children contractually to the guy? HELL NO! .Did he dare to bind other people's children to the porn guy he worked with? Hell NO. He wasn't the one selling MINOR CHILDREN out to a guy linked to the porn industry.
Used both ignore and report button. What a blessing these two buttons indeed are.
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and when mj found out he was invovled in porn he dropped him
 
Twinklee, you are right about the pron contract with Michael's children. I remember we were discussing it when Katherine went on Oprah last year. We even viewed the contract. We also know that Oprah did the interview with Katherine because Katherine promised the children. The facts are there for anyone to look at, and I suggest that Sharon take a look at it.
 
Gif9gud;3217215 said:
I think MJ´s high opinion of Katherine has a lot to do with the fact that as a child he spend so much time away from her, being on the road. While at the same time he had such a bad and loveless relationship to his father. In his mind she became the perfect loving mother/parent, and im sure in many ways she was...
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Interesting. I've thought about this too. I do think he built an image of her in his head that was close to perfection. Maybe he needed to stick to that image of her. Katherine is in a very hard place. Unfortunately, she has excused bad behaviour in men in her family for far too long. It's old fashioned and kind of misogynistic. She could have stood up and changed some things because she may have had the power to do so. I am loathe to comment too much cos of lack of knowledge of what has happened.

I just worry for the kids. I don't like the way Jackie took Prince to the game with Prince sporting a T shirt from the line Jackie is promoting. It is relatively harmless, but I feel sorta sad the family always seems to do nice things with an ulterior motive. It's ominous, cos God knows what schemes the kids will be forced into, in the future. The kids don't have any other family. :( It's all so murky.
 
Well I was fond of Katherine for years... Now after Mike passed, I saw things that didn't like it, but always I've gave her benefit of the doubt, always thinking she is naive and innocent and other speaking into her ear, maybe...

But when she said on Oprah that Mike got a nose like toothpick it ended for me. That's mocking your dead son on national tv, on an interview that you later bring his children on.
The point is that it is plain mean and unfair to do this to your dead son, that has died not longer ago... and he was murdered. And you as mother you come up with this.


This is so shameful. Got no words to describe how sad and disappointing in her I've become. :no:
 
mijaons said:
The kids don't have any other family. :( It's all so murky.
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They do have debbie and if she feels she needs to take them she may do it. She is their mother and even though she did give her rights away, that may change now that mike is gone...
 
mijaons said:
Interesting. I've thought about this too. I do think he built an image of her in his head that was close to perfection. Maybe he needed to stick to that image of her. Katherine is in a very hard place. Unfortunately, she has excused bad behaviour in men in her family for far too long. It's old fashioned and kind of misogynistic. She could have stood up and changed some things because she may have had the power to do so. I am loathe to comment too much cos of lack of knowledge of what has happened.

I just worry for the kids. I don't like the way Jackie took Prince to the game with Prince sporting a T shirt from the line Jackie is promoting. It is relatively harmless, but I feel sorta sad the family always seems to do nice things with an ulterior motive. It's ominous, cos God knows what schemes the kids will be forced into, in the future. The kids don't have any other family. :( It's all so murky.
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You don't say I must me daff prince was wearing a T-shirt from jackie clothing line?
I hear some fan on twitter saying he was using prince but never could make the
connection,
Know I am really worried about those kids it the same pattern Joe did with His kids and
we see strip club was not out of bound for them, Katherine hand them over to Joe to be used, I though Katherine learn her lesson and would not hand over MJ kids,
But the chance are been slim to none, because there is the porn guy binding contract.
MJ children are to be kept away from those people, MJ had the children so protected.
DAM YOU CM
 
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Tipareth said:
Well I was fond of Katherine for years... Now after Mike passed, I saw things that didn't like it, but always I've gave her benefit of the doubt, always thinking she is naive and innocent and other speaking into her ear, maybe...

But when she said on Oprah that Mike got a nose like toothpick it ended for me. That's mocking your dead son on national tv, on an interview that you later bring his children on.
The point is that it is plain mean and unfair to do this to your dead son, that has died not longer ago... and he was murdered. And you as mother you come up with this.


This is so shameful. Got no words to describe how sad and disappointing in her I've become. :no:
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Exactly... she mocked her own son on national tv with a woman who hates MJ's guts.. That ain't right at all.. If Katherine believed her son was having too much plastic surgery she should've stopped him. Instead of going to the surgeon telling him to 'pretend' he was doing something she should've been reporting that surgeon to the medical board for taking advantage of a person with self -esteem issues. Katherine did absolutely nothing to help her son. She just stood by and allowed her husband and shady folks to take advantage of her son including herself. It's sad...
 
It appears as if the MEDIA is not paying attention to Katherine's attempts to rag on the Estate.

I mean, Mann recorded Katherine's latest interview so that it could be SOLD to the media and the ONLY one interested so far, appears to have been Good Morning America.

I'm sure when Howard Mann recorded Katherine latest interview he was hoping that it would have reached more then just the Good Morning American audience. LOL!
 
Big Apple2 said:
It appears as if the MEDIA is not paying attention to Katherine's attempts to rag on the Estate.

I mean, Mann recorded Katherine's latest interview so that it could be SOLD to the media and the ONLY one interested so far, appears to have been Good Morning America.

I'm sure when Howard Mann recorded Katherine latest interview he was hoping that it would have reached more then just the Good Morning American audience. LOL!
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lol! I'm not surprised. Good news..I hope Katherine and her weasel buisness partner don't get anywhere with these things. Here's hoping she dumps him to the curb.
 
Tsukiji said:
lol! I'm not surprised. Good news..I hope Katherine and her weasel buisness partner don't get anywhere with these things. Here's hoping she dumps him to the curb.
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Somebody really needs to tell Mrs. Jackson that her TARGET AUDIENCE does not like her business partner and will not be supporting his website.

I mean seriosuly, how does she expect to earn any real money, when the folks who SHOULD be shopping from that website, want NOTHING to do with that website. LOL!
 
Big Apple2 said:
Somebody really needs to tell Mrs. Jackson that her TARGET AUDIENCE does not like her business partner and will not be supporting his website.

I mean seriosuly, how does she expect to earn any real money, when the folks who SHOULD be shopping from that website, want NOTHING to do with that website. LOL!
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Your exactly right, but I personally find it really hard to believe she doesn't know who he is, his shady background and the fact that her target audience will not support this crap...Someone must have said something by now I would think..I've said this before, but maybe she's doing buisness with this guy because he is stupid enough to go up against Michael's estate?
 
StacyJ said:
Exactly... she mocked her own son on national tv with a woman who hates MJ's guts.. That ain't right at all.. If Katherine believed her son was having too much plastic surgery she should've stopped him. Instead of going to the surgeon telling him to 'pretend' he was doing something she should've been reporting that surgeon to the medical board for taking advantage of a person with self -esteem issues. Katherine did absolutely nothing to help her son. She just stood by and allowed her husband and shady folks to take advantage of her son including herself. It's sad...
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Exactly. She always stood by Joe's schemes even if they included making Michael's life a living hell. Her husband came first.

She's shady just like everyone in that pathetic, sub-human family (exception: MJ3 and Jermajesty XD).
Katherine gets no love from me. She's just as montruous.
 
pilinlim said:
Exactly. She always stood by Joe's schemes even if they included making Michael's life a living hell. Her husband came first.
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I always wondered WHY she put up with him all of these years. Now I know. They are both cut from the same cloth!
 
Big Apple2 said:
Somebody really needs to tell Mrs. Jackson that her TARGET AUDIENCE does not like her business partner and will not be supporting his website.

I mean seriosuly, how does she expect to earn any real money, when the folks who SHOULD be shopping from that website, want NOTHING to do with that website. LOL!
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I thought they shut that website down..I thought i read that on here??
 
pilinhim - I appreciate that you feel very strongly about the Jackson family but please be careful in your language.

We can voice our strong opposition to them without using words like 'monstrous'.
 
The only apologies I intend to speak I have already spoken, which is not for my words but simply the anger that may have been apparent in what I had to say. However let me assure you it in no way reflected in comparison to what I was feeling!!!
I do not care if you "report me." Please remember to report yourself and all others as well who are bashing the Jackson family and not merely in discussions of issues and topics. Many of the peoples comments here hinge on slander but disregarding that and focusing on what is most important is that they are hateful...
People think it's okay to verbally beat up on Michael's family making word plays in contracts, assumptions of intentions in their actions and criticisms of all they do. Yes, treat Michael's family like the media treated him then walk away feeling good about yourselves because you've talked trash about Michael's mother because you didn't approve of the things she's done.
I ask you all this... Those who have posted their hateful criticisms against Michael's family and those of you who have said if Michael were here they wouldn't do this, or if Michael were here they wouldn't say that well tell me if Michael were here would you all be saying the insidious things that I have read stretched across many pages in this forum??? I think not, because if you loved Michael- I mean truly loved Michael if nothing else you would respect his MOTHER!!!!!!! because your love would overshadow your disapproval of her actions in appreciation to Michael.
I read how people are assuming that Jackie is supposedly using Prince by having him wear a shirt from a line he's promoting- did the possibility not occur to you that maybe Jackie gave these shirts as gifts and perhaps Prince decided to wear it when Jackie offered or agreed to take him to a ball game? Has anyone here not worn a certain outfit or perfume as a way of showing appreciation when going out with the person who gave it to you? Oh but perhaps the Jacksons should not be allowed such presumptions...
I am outright disgusted by peoples words here. You lost respect for the Jacksons? Well, have you looked back upon your own actions of what you have written and posted because if you did so you may lose respect for yourselves as well. It stinks and it's foul to the eyes to look upon.
Who here can honestly tell me they think Michael would approve of the things that have been said filled with hate, malice and judgmentalness? I hope no one twist their words to assert such because it may be buried deep in your hearts but your hearts know as well as your minds that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!! If he would read these words tears would be streaming from his eyes and he would be in shock that his fans could be so hatefully mean against his own mother.
If you all truly care for Michael then why not try to show it and show some respect for the people he loved.
Apologies? Send them to whatever readers have stumbled upon this stenched swamp of hatred herein but please don't expect any from me because I haven't attacked a single person here even though I am beyond angry and I shared what I had to say in love.
 
Big Apple2 said:
I always wondered WHY she put up with him all of these years. Now I know. They are both cut from the same cloth!
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exactly..

you only stay with someone for 60 years if you are just like them especially a man who has cheated on you, had out-of-wedlock kids, beat the kids you had together, emotionally abuses those kids by not allowing them to call you 'Daddy' and other rotten things Joe did. She stood by him and continues to til this day even after they've lost a son who's own troubles stem from that man she refuses to leave.
 
I am outright disgusted by peoples words here
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So am I, by your words.
Who here can honestly tell me they think Michael would approve of the things that have been said filled with hate, malice and judgmentalness?
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You and your fellow stans are able to honestly tell us, that Michael would approve this woman to sell his children out to get paid? Would he approve her binding his kids to a pornographer?

well tell me if Michael were here would you all be saying the insidious things that I have read stretched across many pages in this forum???
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there would be no REASON to say anything as they'd keep their big loud mouth's shut, in order to receive the 60k that was being spread among the whole lazy tribe.

You seem to LOVE TO MISS the reason, don't you? You think ignoring facts will make it go away? Make facts untrue?, Make it disappear? Make it like they never said/did any of these things?

Are the JAckson's your God? Is every Jackson whom you worship?

Who here can honestly tell me they think Michael would approve of the things that have been said filled with hate, malice and judgmentalness
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Can you honestly tell me that he'd approve of what they've been spreading since the day he died?
Their interviews filled with jealousy, envy and 'hatred'?

If he would read these words tears would be streaming from his eyes and he would be in shock that his fans could be so hatefully mean against his own mother.
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If he would watch/see/read the bs and nonsense they're spreading since day one, tears would stream down his face, he'd shake his head in utter disgust and it would be break his heart forever, to see the nasty, judgmental, hateful nonsense his own mother, along with her dozen children, - his siblings- are spreading. He'd loose his trust in mankind never to be gained again.
I hope no one twist their words to assert such because it may be buried deep in your hearts but your hearts know as well as your minds that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!!
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I hope you don't dare to twist ur words cuz in ur heart u know as well that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!
 
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twinklEE said:
So am I, by your words.
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You can be disgusted by them if you like it is your personal choice. I reflected on my words and even re read them and came to the conclusion that my words would not hurt Michael. Can you do the same?
 
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