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New Katherine Jackson Interview, Life after Michael Jackson, raising his kids & laws

Ramona122003 said:
For one, no mother knows everything about their child and I doubt Michael would had told her. Also, millions of Americans and people worldwide suffers from some form of sleep problem, so even if she did know she could hardly know the extent unless she asked.

Two, Michael was healthy and happy during his last days and that has nothing to do with why he was killed. So, this point is as moot as it comes.

And my final point, Katherine did baby Michael. She kept his room up and refused to let anyone move into it because she wanted Michael to return home one day. There are words from Jermaine's ex-wife book. She also excused Michael's behavior by blaming his handlers for everything. Like keeping him for his family and 'abandoning' him in 2005. If Michael allowed it, Katherine would had treating him like the rest of her children and rob him of any responsibility.

Nice to see you haven't change, Kaymon.
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I'm sorry but I do think Katherine should've known about MJ's problems. A mother knows if there is something wrong with her child I don't care how old he is. MJ has had insomnia for years and we know ourselves from just looking at pictures before he died his eyes were not right in some photographs. If Kenny Ortega knew MJ wasn't right, why didn't his mother?
Joe even said he told Katherine to check on Mike because he seemed frail and not right, but she never did. What does that tell you?
 
CaptainEoLove85 said:
My heart always breaks for her. She's obviously being taken advantage of by these greedy people. :(
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In my opinion, she is ONE of the greedy people.

I mean, it seems to me that she would have learned her lesson after the "Korean" deal went sour and lead to a HUGE judgment against her, Joe, and Jermaine.

She didn't learn her lesson and she apparently has no problem involving herself in these QUICK money making schemes.
 
Big Apple2 said:
In my opinion, she is ONE of the greedy people.

I mean, it seems to me that she would have learned her lesson after the "Korean" deal went sour and lead to a HUGE judgment against her, Joe, and Jermaine.

She didn't learn her lesson and she apparently has no problem involving herself in these QUICK money making schemes.
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yep! and once again it all involves getting Michael involved in something
 
Saying Katherine is greedy?... Jesus come on now, that's just not right. Greedy no, naive as to being talked into things... well, she does tend to look at the world in a safer light than most. If you say you have Mike's best interest in mind, she's usually the one to take your word for it. But as far as trying to generate money off her deceased son, that just breaks my heart. Besides, elder abuse these days is rampent. Unfortunitely those who are suppossed to be wiser are taken advantage of to an excess. Being 80 is hard; my father can barely function... breaks my heart. The woman is doing all she can to raise those childern, and it's a tough act to follow. And although she does have some help, keeping them ontrack is never easy in today's society. She did what she could for her childern in a different time and era. No, granted it may not be what we consider perfect, but the 60's were different. Given Joe's abusive behavour, it's no wonder Katherine tried to be the quiet one in keeping the peace. She tried her best with what she knew. Let's not forget that she's still Michael's mother, now, caring for his childern. As for the book, I too wish she would have consulted the estate more. Mike's legacy deserves to be in the right hands.
 
StacyJ said:
I'm sorry but I do think Katherine should've known about MJ's problems. A mother knows if there is something wrong with her child I don't care how old he is. MJ has had insomnia for years and we know ourselves from just looking at pictures before he died his eyes were not right in some photographs. If Kenny Ortega knew MJ wasn't right, why didn't his mother?
Joe even said he told Katherine to check on Mike because he seemed frail and not right, but she never did. What does that tell you?
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Now you're going to believe Joe, who actively lied in that same interview? The same interview which he claimed both Katherine and him saw Michael at the morgue? The same person who called his son an addict and under the control of others?

What this tells me is that you pick and chose what to believe since you seem to be obsess with proven that Michael was sad and unhealthy despite people who was around him and what the autopsy shows. Kenny said he wasn't right on one day, that is not the same as this downward spiral you seem to like to promote. He also said that Michael was fine and himself on the 23 and the 24th.

Michael had insomnia, so?

-More than 30% of the population suffers from insomnia.
-One in three people suffer from some form of insomnia during their lifetime.
-More than half of Americans lose sleep due to stress and/or anxiety.
-Between 40% and 60% of people over the age of 60 suffer from insomnia.
-Approximately 10 million people in the U.S. use prescription sleep aids.

So Michael is hardly alone with a sleep problem in this world and the vast majority of people don't die from it or allow it to impend on their lives, so why should Michael be any different?

Also, have you ever been a mother before, Kaymon. Have you actually cared for a child or are you're going by what some book or movie told you. My mother doesn't know everything about me and I doubt your mother knows you sit behind a computer all day being a hypercritical jerk.
 
*~MJ Loves MJ~* said:
Saying Katherine is greedy?... Jesus come on now, that's just not right. Greedy no, naive as to being talked into things... well, she does tend to look at the world in a safer light than most. If you say you have Mike's best interest in mind, she's usually the one to take your word for it. But as far as trying to generate money off her deceased son, that just breaks my heart. Besides, elder abuse these days is rampent. Unfortunitely those who are suppossed to be wiser are taken advantage of to an excess.
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you.

Katherine Jackson has a bunch of ADULT children, it's not like she is all alone and folks are just taking advantage of her. I'm sure she knows what time it is, just like she knew what time it was when it came to dealing with the Korean's. They USED Michael in order to be paid up front by the Koreans and the entire thing back fired.

That right there should have provided her with a LIFE LONG LESSON, but it obviously didn't. Jumping into one bad deal after another equals GREED to me.

Especially when ALL of your needs are being taken care of by the Estate of Michael Jackson. Come on now!
 
Unless the will was fake, it is obvious as to what Michael wanted. HIS CHOICE. Get over it.
 
Come on now!! Lol ...

We can disagree there's so many spins to take on this topic. But what I'm trying to say is that she is probably naive; but accusing her of being greedy, I just feel that this sounds, well, wrong. I of course could be wrong, but after all the good will we've wished the woman only to accuse her of wanting to make money of Michael. Btw, i've been away for a while, may I ask what was the Korean fiasco about?
 
*~MJ Loves MJ~* said:
We can disagree there's so many spins to take on this topic. But what I'm trying to say is that she is probably naive; but accusing her of being greedy, I just feel that this sounds, well, wrong. I of course could be wrong, but after all the good will we've wished the woman only to accuse her of wanting to make money of Michael. Btw, i've been away for a while, may I ask what was the Korean fiasco about?
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In the beginning I was very supportive of Katherine and the family, I had no reason not to be. But little by little the wheels started to fall off for me. I for one, expected much, MUCH better from the entire Jackson family.

That being said, year's ago, Jermaine, Joe, and Katherine took money AND gifts from a Korean group and said that Michael would perform in concert with his brothers.

They never got Michael's approval BEFORE they took the money and gifts, which lead to a lawsuit. Joe, Jermaine, and Katherine never answered the lawsuit and a judgment was put in place for SEVERAL million dollars. The Korean's still want their money back.

That's why I used that as an example as to why Katherine should choose her business dealings more responsibility. If her track record stays on course, I expect her to be sued by Howard Mann in the future. When it comes to business that Jackson's are just not savvy. Everybody has their strong point and business is NOT one of there's, in my opinion.
 
naive my foot she's been hiding under 'naive' for over 40 years, u can only be naive for this long after that it's plain greed. I'd call anyone out on this matter be it Katherine Jackson or Mother Theresa, in this case it's Katherine Jackson, she's been getting away with obvious bs for decades.
 
Never thought about it before, but it is interesting that Michael never helped pay-off this lawsuit order.
 
twinklEE said:
naive my foot she's been hiding under 'naive' for over 40 years, u can only be naive for this long after that it's plain greed. I'd call anyone out on this matter be it Katherine Jackson or Mother Theresa, in this case it's Katherine Jackson, she's been getting away with obvious bs for decades.
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Again...I can only agree with you.
 
So Michael is hardly alone with a sleep problem in this world and the vast majority of people don't die from it or allow it to impend on their lives, so why should Michael be any different?
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Michael is not like the rest 99% of American,
the circumstances, and stress levels he had to deal with are incomparable to those 99.99% of Americans deal with, 99% of the world was waiting to see Michael Jackson fail, can you even imagine what such a pressure does to one?
 
prettygirlmj said:
Someone one just saying on facebook how cool it would be if Paris was the next "Disney Star" like Selena Gomez, Demi Lavato or Miley Cyrus. Let Paris have her childhood for god sakes.
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:bugeyed :bugeyed :bugeyed :bugeyed
Human stupidity never ceases to impress me
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StacyJ said:
I think she feels guilty too... Her golden child is dead and unfortunately her and her husband played a major role in MJ's success and downfalls. Mike was a good man but he needed a strong family support that would protect him from the crooks and charlatans who wanted to take advantage of him. Unfortunately his mother is 80 years old and she still doesn't know any better because Howard Mann is a crook and a charlatan.
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indeed :(
 
twinklEE said:
Michael is not like the rest 99% of American,
the circumstances, and stress levels he had to deal with are incomparable to those 99.99% of Americans deal with, 99% of the world was waiting to see Michael Jackson fail, can you even imagine what such a pressure does to one?
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True, but my point is that he isn't the only one who has to deal with crap in life. His was bigger than most, but people deal with crap everyday. That's how life is. I also doubt 99 percent of the world was waiting for Michael to fail. Most probably didn't care either way and it was only the vocal minority, who are most likely fans themselves, given him grief.

Also, Michael put that pressure on himself as well. He honestly never had to tour again and he could had just release studio albums with some shows here and there for the rest of his life. It was his choice to make a giant performance again. If he couldn't handle it, he shouldn't had agreed to the shows.

He was a grown made, which means he is responsible for his choices, both good and bad.
 
Ramona122003 said:
Also, Michael put that pressure on himself as well. He honestly never had to tour again and he could had just release studio albums with some shows here and there for the rest of his life. It was his choice to make a giant performance again. If he couldn't handle it, he shouldn't had agreed to the shows.

He was a grown made, which means he is responsible for his choices, both good and bad.
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Yeah, and you think it's all that simple to say things like "If he couldn't handle it, he shouldn't have agreed to do the shows?" Not gonna get into the number of shows discussion that many don't believe anyway, but that it's a vital thing. But he agreed to perform for his children as well. Tell that to the media who was waiting for him to fall and 'coincidentally' predicted his early demise over and over, and tell that to the many people who would badmouth him, calling him a lazy bum, a has-been and all that. Tell that to the many asking for that he performs everywhere and how you could say no to them. Some of the same ones (not you) who pressured him into performing are now saying he shouldn't have. ..... Plus the AEG and Thome shadiness that's not even funny.

It's so easy to say some things and create scenarios of what somebody should have done when they're not that somebody and they never lived that kind of life in the first place.
 
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Mrs. Katherine have all my respect and certainly these times should not be being easy for her, having to deal with the processes and also the responsibility of caring for three children.
I ask for God to always give a lot of strength to her.
 
Katherine is not even allowed any where near the children , Michael was always very strict about Jackson's being near the children especially Katherine. Michael always called Katherine the psychopath. They already know the Will is fake and know who the heir to the children and estate is. They also know throughout history that there is only one other person than MJ that approves things and its not a Jackson. I never thought that they could be so evil....
 
ms fairy said:
Katherine is not even allowed any where near the children , Michael was always very strict about Jackson's being near the children especially Katherine. Michael always called Katherine the psychopath. They already know the Will is fake and know who the heir to the children and estate is. They also know throughout history that there is only one other person than MJ that approves things and its not a Jackson. I never thought that they could be so evil....
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^ WTH to ur whole post? What are u talking about?-_-

MJ never called his mom that! Katherine always was around the children since they were small they always knew their grandmother and grandfather! There are also pics of Latoya around the children going shopping with them and MJ when they were younger! That hardly sounds like MJ was keeping them that far away from his kids!

It's clear SOME are spreading hate just to hate! No real facts!
 
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ms fairy said:
Katherine is not even allowed any where near the children , Michael was always very strict about Jackson's being near the children especially Katherine. Michael always called Katherine the psychopath. They already know the Will is fake and know who the heir to the children and estate is. They also know throughout history that there is only one other person than MJ that approves things and its not a Jackson. I never thought that they could be so evil....
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what are you talking about??
 
virginia_woolf said:
What should he? it wasn't his fault.
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Of course it wasn't his fault and I never thought that he should or should not.

It keeps being brought up by some of how much Michael helped his family financially and even some are saying he wouldn't mind this person or that person having some of his money now, etc. I am simply saying that it was interesting that if Michael was truly handing out money like some are saying that this was never taken care of.
 
classic said:
Of course it wasn't his fault and I never thought that he should or should not.

It keeps being brought up by some of how much Michael helped his family financially and even some are saying he wouldn't mind this person or that person having some of his money now, etc. I am simply saying that it was interesting that if Michael was truly handing out money like some are saying that this was never taken care of.
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Maybe he was just mad at the family, they were trying to force him to do something against his wishes and it brought him a lot of stress. If I remember correctly Michael settled with the Koreans. Maybe he thought the family should learn that he won't pay for their mistakes. I don't know.
 
ms fairy said:
Katherine is not even allowed any where near the children , Michael was always very strict about Jackson's being near the children especially Katherine. Michael always called Katherine the psychopath. They already know the Will is fake and know who the heir to the children and estate is. They also know throughout history that there is only one other person than MJ that approves things and its not a Jackson. I never thought that they could be so evil....
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What?????
 
ms fairy said:
Katherine is not even allowed any where near the children , Michael was always very strict about Jackson's being near the children especially Katherine. Michael always called Katherine the psychopath. They already know the Will is fake and know who the heir to the children and estate is. They also know throughout history that there is only one other person than MJ that approves things and its not a Jackson. I never thought that they could be so evil....
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MJsFairy, is this you?
Your posts are always very entertaining, they've always been this way even back in the good ole KOP days, so what happened to the long missing 'Queen'? Is she found yet? lol
 
PCR said:
:bugeyed :bugeyed :bugeyed :bugeyed
Human stupidity never ceases to impress me
:no:
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I funny how us humans are both the most intelligent beings of Earth while being the most stupid at the same time!!!!!!




Anyway.......

Hopefully this Howard Mann lawsuit will put some sense into her and she can concentrate on Michael's children........
 
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ms fairy said:
Katherine is not even allowed any where near the children , Michael was always very strict about Jackson's being near the children especially Katherine. Michael always called Katherine the psychopath. They already know the Will is fake and know who the heir to the children and estate is. They also know throughout history that there is only one other person than MJ that approves things and its not a Jackson. I never thought that they could be so evil....
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:bugeyed :bugeyed :bugeyed

What the....?

:mello:


Krshna28 said:
I funny how us humans are both the most intelligent being of Earth while being the most stupid at the same time!!!!!!
Anyway....... Hopefully this Howard Mann lawsuit will put some sense into her and she can concentrate on Michael's children........
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Oh yes, let's hope this will be for the better. Anyway, in my opinion this fellow is using Katherine in a really dirty way as a shield to protect himself from all this. It's clear he wants the world to feel for Katherine and so to reject the lawsuit against Mann. Such a nasty trick!!! :angry:
 
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