New Katherine Jackson Interview, Life after Michael Jackson, raising his kids & laws

[8701girl]

Katherine is not even allowed any where near the children , Michael was always very strict about Jackson's being near the children especially Katherine. Michael always called Katherine the psychopath. They already know the Will is fake and know who the heir to the children and estate is. They also know throughout history that there is only one other person than MJ that approves things and its not a Jackson. I never thought that they could be so evil....

EXCUSE ME!!!!!??

Michael has never ever said that katerine is a pshycopath!!!! infact he has said quite the oppsite!


He always had shown his love & admiration for her and they were very close. Yes maybe some of katerine's actions confuses us & makes us question her, but there is no way whatsoever she is such a thing! where did u get that from???

 

[xthunderx2]

EXCUSE ME!!!!!??

Michael has never ever said that katerine is a pshycopath!!!! infact he has said quite the oppsite!


He always had shown his love & admiration for her and they were very close. Yes maybe some of katerine's actions confuses us & makes us question her, but there is no way whatsoever she is such a thing! where did u get that from???

obviously..the person who posted that is trying to get a rise out of us..OR..they are legally insane...:cheeky:

 

[8701girl]

obviously..the person who posted that is trying to get a rise out of us..OR..they are legally insane...:cheeky:

Or they are a hater

 

[xthunderx2]

Or they are a hater

that could be to..ya never know about people these days..:*****:

 

[8701girl]

that could be to..ya never know about people these days..:*****:

I know its makes me angry

 

[Naturelle]

I think Katherine feels guilty with the way her kids were raised. I think for Michael's sake and desires she wants to keep those kids as far from the limelight as possible.

And yet she serves up the children, (MJ3) to Oprah on a silver platter....that didn't help them.

 

[*~MJ Loves MJ~*]

In the beginning I was very supportive of Katherine and the family, I had no reason not to be. But little by little the wheels started to fall off for me. I for one, expected much, MUCH better from the entire Jackson family.

That being said, year's ago, Jermaine, Joe, and Katherine took money AND gifts from a Korean group and said that Michael would perform in concert with his brothers.

They never got Michael's approval BEFORE they took the money and gifts, which lead to a lawsuit. Joe, Jermaine, and Katherine never answered the lawsuit and a judgment was put in place for SEVERAL million dollars. The Korean's still want their money back.

That's why I used that as an example as to why Katherine should choose her business dealings more responsibility. If her track record stays on course, I expect her to be sued by Howard Mann in the future. When it comes to business that Jackson's are just not savvy. Everybody has their strong point and business is NOT one of there's, in my opinion.

Crap, I've never heard about this. Thanks for the clarification though. That's crazy. Michael isn't a puppet. Frustrating when you hear about these kinds of things. So many people wanted to make plans around Michael, problem was, they never asked him about them first.

 

[Angelofmj]

true, but my point is that he isn't the only one who has to deal with crap in life. His was bigger than most, but people deal with crap everyday. That's how life is. I also doubt 99 percent of the world was waiting for michael to fail. Most probably didn't care either way and it was only the vocal minority, who are most likely fans themselves, given him grief.

Also, michael put that pressure on himself as well. He honestly never had to tour again and he could had just release studio albums with some shows here and there for the rest of his life. It was his choice to make a giant performance again. If he couldn't handle it, he shouldn't had agreed to the shows.

He was a grown made, which means he is responsible for his choices, both good and bad.

i agree with you 100%!

Couldnt have said it better myself!!

 

[Tipareth]

Michael had insomnia, so?

-More than 30% of the population suffers from insomnia.
-One in three people suffer from some form of insomnia during their lifetime.
-More than half of Americans lose sleep due to stress and/or anxiety.
-Between 40% and 60% of people over the age of 60 suffer from insomnia.
-Approximately 10 million people in the U.S. use prescription sleep aids.

So Michael is hardly alone with a sleep problem in this world and the vast majority of people don't die from it or allow it to impend on their lives, so why should Michael be any different?

You know what there many kinds of insomnia and some are worse than others. Some are plain terrible. If one got a terrible severe insomnia, associated with other health problems, and it goes on for years, it's meant to be to end up very bad or even in death.

People do not care enough about insomnia, because it's like talking about a cold or something.... but the worse form is not a cold, it's a road to hell and even a road to death.

I am saying this both as a sufferer and a Psychology graduate. People should care more, become aware more....

 

[moodyblue97]

Katherine is not even allowed any where near the children , Michael was always very strict about Jackson's being near the children especially Katherine. Michael always called Katherine the psychopath. They already know the Will is fake and know who the heir to the children and estate is. They also know throughout history that there is only one other person than MJ that approves things and its not a Jackson. I never thought that they could be so evil....

Huh? And who are you talking about? Jee..

True, but my point is that he isn't the only one who has to deal with crap in life. His was bigger than most, but people deal with crap everyday. That's how life is. I also doubt 99 percent of the world was waiting for Michael to fail. Most probably didn't care either way and it was only the vocal minority, who are most likely fans themselves, given him grief.

Also, Michael put that pressure on himself as well. He honestly never had to tour again and he could had just release studio albums with some shows here and there for the rest of his life. It was his choice to make a giant performance again. If he couldn't handle it, he shouldn't had agreed to the shows.

He was a grown made, which means he is responsible for his choices, both good and bad.

I guess we all have our opinion about how he was approached when it comes to the shows. If he was forced to do it to save his finances or not.
And when under pressure you tend to do choices you wouldn´t do normally. He was desperate to sleep, he always was, but now it got out of hand. I can´t really blame him for those choices and say he was a grown man. It´s Michael we talk about..

 

[StacyJ]

I just wish MJ would've gotten some real help from a real and legit sleep specialist or therapist. It's just so so sad that he didn't have anyone who cared enough. I wonder what would've happened if MJ had gone to his mother saying he was having problems sleeping. I wonder what she would've said?

 

[Alma]

You know what there many kinds of insomnia and some are worse than others. Some are plain terrible. If one got a terrible severe insomnia, associated with other health problems, and it goes on for years, it's meant to be to end up very bad or even in death.

People do not care enough about insomnia, because it's like talking about a cold or something.... but the worse form is not a cold, it's a road to hell and even a road to death.

I am saying this both as a sufferer and a Psychology graduate. People should care more, become aware more....

If there's no real sense of empathy and knowledge of certain things in people - crucial ones too -, it's where replies like that come up. And they're hurtful in the end: not understanding, not being conscious.

 

[Alma]

Katherine is not even allowed any where near the children , Michael was always very strict about Jackson's being near the children especially Katherine. Michael always called Katherine the psychopath. They already know the Will is fake and know who the heir to the children and estate is. They also know throughout history that there is only one other person than MJ that approves things and its not a Jackson. I never thought that they could be so evil....

.... Living in reality is opposed to living in full, dangerous fantasy....

...*sighs*

 

[terrell]

I just wish MJ would've gotten some real help from a real and legit sleep specialist or therapist. It's just so so sad that he didn't have anyone who cared enough. I wonder what would've happened if MJ had gone to his mother saying he was having problems sleeping. I wonder what she would've said?

I agree. Some folks need to stop blaming MJ's family and all that in MJ's death. The only person I blame in MJ's death is MURRAY. He did the injections and as a doctor, Murray should have known better and should have followed medical laws. PERIOD. I do not care what MJ ask for, Murray made the final decison and he was the doctor. There plenty of sleep specialist out here and to use that drug in order to treat that "addiction" was stupid.

 

[terrell]

True, but my point is that he isn't the only one who has to deal with crap in life. His was bigger than most, but people deal with crap everyday. That's how life is. I also doubt 99 percent of the world was waiting for Michael to fail. Most probably didn't care either way and it was only the vocal minority, who are most likely fans themselves, given him grief.

Also, Michael put that pressure on himself as well. He honestly never had to tour again and he could had just release studio albums with some shows here and there for the rest of his life. It was his choice to make a giant performance again. If he couldn't handle it, he shouldn't had agreed to the shows.

He was a grown made, which means he is responsible for his choices, both good and bad.

WELL SAID. This is just like some people thinking that most people thought MJ was gulty of child abuse. WRONG. Only the idoits got air time while everyone else moved on and did not care or did not believe the case.

 

[terrell]

Saying Katherine is greedy?... Jesus come on now, that's just not right. Greedy no, naive as to being talked into things... well, she does tend to look at the world in a safer light than most. If you say you have Mike's best interest in mind, she's usually the one to take your word for it. But as far as trying to generate money off her deceased son, that just breaks my heart. Besides, elder abuse these days is rampent. Unfortunitely those who are suppossed to be wiser are taken advantage of to an excess. Being 80 is hard; my father can barely function... breaks my heart. The woman is doing all she can to raise those childern, and it's a tough act to follow. And although she does have some help, keeping them ontrack is never easy in today's society. She did what she could for her childern in a different time and era. No, granted it may not be what we consider perfect, but the 60's were different. Given Joe's abusive behavour, it's no wonder Katherine tried to be the quiet one in keeping the peace. She tried her best with what she knew. Let's not forget that she's still Michael's mother, now, caring for his childern. As for the book, I too wish she would have consulted the estate more. Mike's legacy deserves to be in the right hands.

I agree. I get sick and tired of people from the "outside" acting like they know what this woman is going through. And to think lawyers are going to do right is stupid as well. When people die, alot of folks who you think are good can change including LAWYERS.

 

[StacyJ]

I agree. Some folks need to stop blaming MJ's family and all that in MJ's death. The only person I blame in MJ's death is MURRAY. He did the injections and as a doctor, Murray should have known better and should have followed medical laws. PERIOD. I do not care what MJ ask for, Murray made the final decison and he was the doctor. There plenty of sleep specialist out here and to use that drug in order to treat that "addiction" was stupid.

well according to Murray he used it to treat insomnia and dehydration.. Mind you it doesn't help either.. Mike was laying up there looking like a hospice patient according to the EMTs and the only thing wrong with him according to his own doctor was a bout of insomnia and dehydration.. what the hell is wrong with Murray? I swear that fool needs to be locked up for killing MJ and for being a doctor that is a complete nutjob. He's a dangerous man with a medical degree and the authority to have people's lives in his hand

 

[terrell]

To me, and I am going to leave it at this, MICHAEL WAS KATHRINE's child. She can do WHATEVER she thinks is best for his estate. I am dealing with something simular in my own way since my father's death last year against his widow. If you are an "outsider", you do not know the "inside" even if the outside does not look good.

 

[terrell]

well according to Murray he used it to treat insomnia and dehydration.. Mind you it doesn't help either.. Mike was laying up there looking like a hospice patient according to the EMTs and the only thing wrong with him according to his own doctor was a bout of insomnia and dehydration.. what the hell is wrong with Murray? I swear that fool needs to be locked up for killing MJ and for being a doctor that is a complete nutjob. He's a dangerous man with a medical degree and the authority to have people's lives in his hand

I agree. And it angers me so much. I wish MJ would have not use this method to treat it; however, Murray was the doctor and should have known better (and what is worst only Anesthesilogist are allow to administor this med in hospital, NOT the doctor).

 

[Sophielo]

Calling Katherine greedy is unfair, I'm pretty damn sure if you gave her a choice of money or having Michael back she'd choose the latter in an instant.

 

[terrell]

Calling Katherine greedy is unfair, I'm pretty damn sure if you gave her a choice of money or having Michael back she'd choose the latter in an instant.

I agree. people calling her greedy need to stay in their lane. You do not know what this woman is feeling or going through. To me, all of this was the same mess MJ haters did to him.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

.... Living in reality is opposed to living in full, dangerous fantasy....

...*sighs*

i take it the poster your replying to is the looney that is mjs fairy from kop board. prob been banned from there and as made their way over to this board. :doh:

 

[MarriedtoMichaelinmyheart]

i pray Katherine stays around tilll they get much older.... raying

 

[virginia_woolf]

She can do WHATEVER she thinks is best for his estate.

The problem is, she isn't doing what is best for his estate. She is working against his estate.

 

[twinklEE]

Calling Katherine greedy is unfair, I'm pretty damn sure if you gave her a choice of money or having Michael back she'd choose the latter in an instant.

It's not unfair it's factual. I'm sick and tired of her getting a pass, she's been getting one since forever. If Michael were here, she wouldn't have dared to enter into business with a porn producer and drag his minor children into her legal mess. If Michael were alive the tribe would still be freeloading like they've been doing since 1985, (some of them even longer). If Michael were here she'd think twice before making fun of the looks he was so sensitive about on national television. If Michael were here, the thought of dragging Michael's kids into an Oprah interview in order to promote her dubious book would have never crossed her mind. And finally if Michael was back she'd be having both Michael and money. Since all of her grandchildren were on Oprah I wonder why she didn't bind ALL of them legally to her porn pal? After all the porn guy is such a great human being, why not go ahead and include all of them into her contract, as she did make a point to get facetime for all of them too.

Oh and nobody is claiming she'd take money over Michael, but actions speak louder than words, and her actions have spoken loud and clear, from day one.
I say NO MORE, NO MORE EXCUSES

 

[Graf]

It's not unfair it's factual. I'm sick and tired of her getting a pass, she's been getting one since forever. If Michael were here, she wouldn't have dared to enter into business with a porn producer and drag his minor children into her legal mess. If Michael were alive the tribe would still be freeloading like they've been doing since 1985, (some of them even longer). If Michael were here she'd think twice before making fun of the looks he was so sensitive about on national television. If Michael were here, the thought of dragging Michael's kids into an Oprah interview in order to promote her dubious book would have never crossed her mind. And finally if Michael was back she'd be having both Michael and money. Since all of her grandchildren were on Oprah I wonder why she didn't bind ALL of them legally to her porn pal? After all the porn guy is such a great human being, why not go ahead and include all of them into her contract, as she did make a point to get facetime for all of them too.

Oh and nobody is claiming she'd take money over Michael, but actions speak louder than words, and her actions have spoken loud and clear, from day one.
I say NO MORE, NO MORE EXCUSES

:clapping:

I agree with you 100%! It may be a sad situation, but it's the reality unfortunately

 

[athina_livadi]

It's her own fault if her greed hadn't come in the way she could have been enjoying whatever life she's got with a generous of monthly allowance, in addition to having several employees. It's not like she has to get up, cook, and wash herself. Yet she couldn't stop herself, and went just right ahead into business with the porn guy, which reasonable person does this? Which grieving mother binds minor children to a porn guy? Mann will go down and he will drag her with him, and it's totally her fault. Of course it's hard for her now that Michael is gone, there is no unlimited amount of money coming in for dozens of lazy people to leech of, anymore.
There is no doubt in my mind that she loved him, but she loved to use him as her source of income just as much, do everything she could to put more pressure onto Michael, make him tour with his senior brothers. Like any of his brothers would have been in the position to tour with him (I saw their pitiful 'rehearsal' in that sad reality show and it was ridiculous). Look how out of shape they are. She needs to sit back and actually think about what she is doing, disrespecting his wishes is one thing, but binding his own children to some porn crook is a whole other and inexcusable. So just because she doesn't let paris join movies now doesn't mean she is not exploiting her (and the boys), she clearly is by including them into her contract with her porn bff. At the ages of 13/12 and 8 she has got them on Oprah and signing some tacky belts for her porn bff. What will happen once Michael's kids are legal? Is Mann going to produce Paris' first 'motion picture' with the blessings of Katherine? Cuz this is exactly where all this is heading, everyone knows to keep away minor children from pornographers yet this woman is binding them to one legally. I'm really curious to see what happens to this Jackson family after Katherine's departure (which won't be soon hopefully), it looks as if welfare is where they're going to end up.

I used to sympathize a lot of with this woman, but after her recent antics, not only am I disappointed but disgusted by her.

You are so right I couldn't agree more!

 

[athina_livadi]

I know Katherine loves her son but I want to stress out that she took advantage of his love!
Katherine was the one that persuaded him in doing the cursed Pepsi Ad when he got burnt. Katherine was the one that persuaded him in doing the Victory Tour because his lazy @ss brothers needed to earn some money! Katherine was the one that never reacted when Joe was beating him and taking them to the strip shows to sing when they were just kids. Katherine never took them and leave the house when they were kids to protect them from losing their childhood because they needed money. Katherine was the one that persuaded Michael to accept his brothers in the 30th Anniversary Show even though Michael didn't want it! I can say much more but I won't because I respect Michael and his pain in life! She is to blame equally as Joe in my opinion or even more! A mother doesn't leave her children exposed at such an early age and certainly doesn't want them to be tortured by their father!

 

[twinklEE]

Guys, thank you all for your positive rep points, it's good to know we're on the same page on this issue. :flowers:

 

[Petrarose]

I just wish MJ would've gotten some real help from a real and legit sleep specialist or therapist. It's just so so sad that he didn't have anyone who cared enough. I wonder what would've happened if MJ had gone to his mother saying he was having problems sleeping. I wonder what she would've said?

Michael had severe insomnia for years. How do you know that he never sought help from a sleep disorder specialist? It seems possible that he would use the basic methods and techniques to solve this problem first before going on to drastic measures. Any rational person would, and I would say he was a rational person. Usually when people try every standard method to solve a problem and it does not work, they are then forced to try alternative methods. This is just the way most people operate.