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I reflected on my words and even re read them and came to the conclusion that my words would not hurt Michael. Can you do the same?
Too bad "some" of Michael's own family members did not REFLECT on their words, before they went running to the tabloids and different talk shows, speaking about things they would have NEVER spoke about if Michael was still alive.

In my opinion, Michael would be VERY hurt if he heard some of the things his OWN family has been saying about him!
 
So am I, by your words.

You and your fellow stans are able to honestly tell us, that Michael would approve this woman to sell his children out to get paid? Would he approve her binding his kids to a pornographer?


there would be no REASON to say anything as they'd keep their big loud mouth's shut, in order to receive the 60k that was being spread among the whole lazy tribe.

You seem to LOVE TO MISS the reason, don't you? You think ignoring facts will make it go away? Make facts untrue?, Make it disappear? Make it like they never said/did any of these things?

Are the JAckson's your God? Is every Jackson whom you worship?


Can you honestly tell me that he'd approve of what they've been spreading since the day he died?
Their interviews filled with jealousy, envy and 'hatred'?


I hope you don't dare to twist ur words cuz in ur heart u know as well that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!

Oh I see you edited your post from the one I originally quoted...

You are asking me all of this right???

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I am outright disgusted by peoples words here
So am I, by your words.
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Who here can honestly tell me they think Michael would approve of the things that have been said filled with hate, malice and judgmentalness?
You and your fellow stans are able to honestly tell us, that Michael would approve this woman to sell his children out to get paid? Would he approve her binding his kids to a pornographer?

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well tell me if Michael were here would you all be saying the insidious things that I have read stretched across many pages in this forum???
there would be no REASON to say anything as they'd keep their big loud mouth's shut, in order to receive the 60k that was being spread among the whole lazy tribe.

You seem to LOVE TO MISS the reason, don't you? You think ignoring facts will make it go away? Make facts untrue?, Make it disappear? Make it like they never said/did any of these things?

Are the JAckson's your God? Is every Jackson whom you worship?

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Who here can honestly tell me they think Michael would approve of the things that have been said filled with hate, malice and judgmentalness
Can you honestly tell me that he'd approve of what they've been spreading since the day he died?
Their interviews filled with jealousy, envy and 'hatred'?

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I hope no one twist their words to assert such because it may be buried deep in your hearts but your hearts know as well as your minds that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!!
I hope you don't dare to twist ur words cuz in ur heart u know as well that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!"




Well, I am still waiting for you to answer my questions and would much appreciate it if you tried to do so in with an honest heart instead of trying to deflect observations of self toward the assertions you've made against the Jackson family.

However, I will be so kind as to answer the most ridiculous question I've ever read in my whole entire life which you posed to me by stating concisely ---NO they are not my God!!! (Stopping myself from using the many sarcastic words that are raging inside me at this very moment)
 
Too bad "some" of Michael's own family members did not REFLECT on their words, before they went running to the tabloids and different talk shows, speaking about things they would have NEVER spoke about if Michael was still alive.

In my opinion, Michael would be VERY hurt if he heard some of the things his OWN family has been saying about him!


Big Apple 2 That could be quite true but wasn't it Michael's fans who have continuously showed him love, affection and would never intentionally do things to hurt him? Don't you think what many are saying here would leave him in desperate tears??? I do. Don't you?
 
Big Apple 2 That could be quite true but wasn't it Michael's fans who have continuously showed him love, affection and would never intentionally do things to hurt him? Don't you think what many are saying here would leave him in desperate tears??? I do. Don't you?

I think Michael would be in desperate tears hearing his family talk negatively about him and seeing his mother selling herself and his kids out for money.
 
Big Apple 2 That could be quite true but wasn't it Michael's fans who have continuously showed him love, affection and would never intentionally do things to hurt him? Don't you think what many are saying here would leave him in desperate tears??? I do. Don't you?
WE his fans have ALWAYS shown Michael LOVE and support....to bad his own FAMILY cannot say the same...just look at what it is they are doing..running from talk show to talk how talking about drug interventions...the autopsy clearly states that Michael DID NOT have ANY drugs in his system. So where are these intervention stories coming from.???.....Michael was in denial my big toe.....THEY his own family who you say love and supported him are the ones in denial.
 
I think Michael would be in desperate tears hearing his family talk negatively about him and seeing his mother selling herself and his kids out for money.

I am asking about what fans here believe Michael would feel from what is being repeatedly said in various ways in this forum against his family.

The above quote is an adequate example StacyJ, if Michael were to come here and read this thread, how would he feel with what you and others have said?

If I were in a forum where Michael's family members were making comments and would be reading my replies then it would be feasible for me to encourage them in any ways God would guide me to do so. However, I am not, I am here with Michael's fans of who I am encouraging perhaps somewhat sternly but all the same I am not writing to condemn peoples comments but to encourage people to reflect on their words and their hearts in consideration of the man we claim to love and see would it hurt him? because I believe it would and I think any who know his heart and character would feel the same and stop.
 
Oh I see you edited your post from the one I originally quoted...

You are asking me all of this right???

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I am outright disgusted by peoples words here
So am I, by your words.
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Who here can honestly tell me they think Michael would approve of the things that have been said filled with hate, malice and judgmentalness?
You and your fellow stans are able to honestly tell us, that Michael would approve this woman to sell his children out to get paid? Would he approve her binding his kids to a pornographer?

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well tell me if Michael were here would you all be saying the insidious things that I have read stretched across many pages in this forum???
there would be no REASON to say anything as they'd keep their big loud mouth's shut, in order to receive the 60k that was being spread among the whole lazy tribe.

You seem to LOVE TO MISS the reason, don't you? You think ignoring facts will make it go away? Make facts untrue?, Make it disappear? Make it like they never said/did any of these things?

Are the JAckson's your God? Is every Jackson whom you worship?

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Who here can honestly tell me they think Michael would approve of the things that have been said filled with hate, malice and judgmentalness
Can you honestly tell me that he'd approve of what they've been spreading since the day he died?
Their interviews filled with jealousy, envy and 'hatred'?

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I hope no one twist their words to assert such because it may be buried deep in your hearts but your hearts know as well as your minds that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!!
I hope you don't dare to twist ur words cuz in ur heart u know as well that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!"




Well, I am still waiting for you to answer my questions and would much appreciate it if you tried to do so in with an honest heart instead of trying to deflect observations of self toward the assertions you've made against the Jackson family.

However, I will be so kind as to answer the most ridiculous question I've ever read in my whole entire life which you posed to me by stating concisely ---NO they are not my God!!! (Stopping myself from using the many sarcastic words that are raging inside me at this very moment)
I don't believe a word of the bold part. Again I'm still waiting for you to answer the above posted/quoted questions. But again your going by your usual route and keep on ignoring these questions and the truth.
You really do think downplaying, denying, refusing to acknowledge them makes their actions undone don't you? Do you think it was/is their ghost/alter ego doing and saying all the horrible things they said and done? Do you think it was Michael's ghost/soul that made them act the way they did and do? Do you think it is God that makes behave the way they do? Do you think someone is holding a gun onto them and demanding them to act despicable? Do you think it is us who command them to degrade, belittle, mock, badmouth, lie about Michael?
 
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Big Apple 2 That could be quite true but wasn't it Michael's fans who have continuously showed him love, affection and would never intentionally do things to hurt him? Don't you think what many are saying here would leave him in desperate tears??? I do. Don't you?

I "think" if Michael was still with us, we wouldn't have been exposed to the different things his family has done since June 25, 2009. So I would have felt the same about them as I did before June 25, 2009.

I don't believe his mother would have said his nose looked like a "toothpick," if Michael were still alive.

I don't believe Rebbie and Janet would have gone on television and spoke about the many, many interventions the family conducted, if Michael were still alive.

I don't believe LaToya would be talking about the little "Mexican" boy, if Michael were still alive.

I'm like this: "if you can't say it to my face, then don't say it at all." Same thing goes for Michael's family. I mean, if they didn't feel it was necessary to discuss those things in public before, why do they feel it's alright to discuss those things now?

I grew up with the Jacksons, and their actions after Michael's death are VERY DISAPPOINTING and somewhat surprising to be honest. I'm just very disappointed in the way they have handled themselves since Michael's death.

VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED! No hate. No anger. Just disappointment.
 
WE his fans have ALWAYS shown Michael LOVE and support....to bad his own FAMILY cannot say the same...just look at what it is they are doing..running from talk show to talk how talking about drug interventions...the autopsy clearly states that Michael DID NOT have ANY drugs in his system. So where are these intervention stories coming from.???.....Michael was in denial my big toe.....THEY his own family who you say love and supported him are the ones in denial.

So true... I'm very disappointed with that family.. I wonder if they even know how the fans feel about them?

Where can we send notes to Janet and Rebbie? I would really like to chat with them
 
I "think" if Michael was still with us, we wouldn't have been exposed to the different things his family has done since June 25, 2009. So I would have felt the same about them as I did before June 25, 2009.

I don't believe his mother would have said his nose looked like a "toothpick," if Michael were still alive.

I don't believe Rebbie and Janet would have gone on television and spoke about the many, many interventions the family conducted, if Michael were still alive.

I don't believe LaToya would be talking about the little "Mexican" boy, if Michael were still alive.

I'm like this: "if you can't say it to my face, then don't say it at all." Same thing goes for Michael's family. I mean, if they didn't feel it was necessary to discuss those things in public before, why do they feel it's alright to discuss those things now?

I grew up with the Jacksons, and their actions after Michael's death are VERY DISAPPOINTING and somewhat surprising to be honest. I'm just very disappointed in the way they have handled themselves since Michael's death.

VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED! No hate. No anger. Just disappointment.
Great pot!!! I agree 100000% :clapping::clapping:
 
Please do not let this thread become a slingfest between members.

Agree to disagree and return the focus to the topic of this thread.

FIRST and FINAL warning.

Thank you.
 
I don't believe a word of the bold part. Again I'm still waiting for you to answer the above posted/quoted questions. Instead of going by your usual route of ignoring them.
You really do think downplaying, denying, refusing to acknowledge them makes their actions undone don't you?


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Oh I see you edited your post from the one I originally quoted...

You are asking me all of this right???

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I am outright disgusted by peoples words here
So am I, by your words.
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Who here can honestly tell me they think Michael would approve of the things that have been said filled with hate, malice and judgmentalness?
You and your fellow stans are able to honestly tell us, that Michael would approve this woman to sell his children out to get paid? Would he approve her binding his kids to a pornographer?

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well tell me if Michael were here would you all be saying the insidious things that I have read stretched across many pages in this forum???
there would be no REASON to say anything as they'd keep their big loud mouth's shut, in order to receive the 60k that was being spread among the whole lazy tribe.

You seem to LOVE TO MISS the reason, don't you? You think ignoring facts will make it go away? Make facts untrue?, Make it disappear? Make it like they never said/did any of these things?

Are the JAckson's your God? Is every Jackson whom you worship?

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Who here can honestly tell me they think Michael would approve of the things that have been said filled with hate, malice and judgmentalness
Can you honestly tell me that he'd approve of what they've been spreading since the day he died?
Their interviews filled with jealousy, envy and 'hatred'?

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I hope no one twist their words to assert such because it may be buried deep in your hearts but your hearts know as well as your minds that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!!
I hope you don't dare to twist ur words cuz in ur heart u know as well that it would be a bold faced LIE!!!!"




Well, I am still waiting for you to answer my questions and would much appreciate it if you tried to do so in with an honest heart instead of trying to deflect observations of self toward the assertions you've made against the Jackson family.

However, I will be so kind as to answer the most ridiculous question I've ever read in my whole entire life which you posed to me by stating concisely ---NO they are not my God!!! (Stopping myself from using the many sarcastic words that are raging inside me at this very moment)


I don't believe a word of the bold part. Again I'm still waiting for you to answer the above posted/quoted questions. Instead of going by your usual route of ignoring them.
You really do think downplaying, denying, refusing to acknowledge them makes their actions undone don't you?
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Seeing as to how my question was posed first it would be adequate for you to reply to my questions before going further in conversation which you've thus far failed to realize and rather have chosen to assert that I am ignoring your inquiries.

In lieu of your statement that you "don't believe a word of the bold part" then there is no point in me discussing anything with you since the purpose of my writing is to discuss things and encourage people of sound reason. I write this reply simply out of courtesy.
 
Sharon B. Sidney;3222996 said:
You can be disgusted by them if you like it is your personal choice. I reflected on my words and even re read them and came to the conclusion that my words would not hurt Michael. Can you do the same?

Cala a boca, aberração. Calou! Cabrona!

The more I read your posts the more I laugh.
 
I "think" if Michael was still with us, we wouldn't have been exposed to the different things his family has done since June 25, 2009. So I would have felt the same about them as I did before June 25, 2009.

I don't believe his mother would have said his nose looked like a "toothpick," if Michael were still alive.

I don't believe Rebbie and Janet would have gone on television and spoke about the many, many interventions the family conducted, if Michael were still alive.

I don't believe LaToya would be talking about the little "Mexican" boy, if Michael were still alive.



I'm like this: "if you can't say it to my face, then don't say it at all." Same thing goes for Michael's family. I mean, if they didn't feel it was necessary to discuss those things in public before, why do they feel it's alright to discuss those things now?

I grew up with the Jacksons, and their actions after Michael's death are VERY DISAPPOINTING and somewhat surprising to be honest. I'm just very disappointed in the way they have handled themselves since Michael's death.

VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED! No hate. No anger. Just disappointment.


Well, you made how you feel very clear without using words filled with hate. That's good.

I'm going to leave this thread now and any who wants to stand for what they think Michael would want aid by his fans concerning his family encouraged to do so.

We have fans who believe Michael is still here and fans who believe he is in heaven but no matter where he is I do believe he has the ability to look upon us. Many on earth can easily look into a bulletin on a message board and many believe that those in heaven are able to watch over those they loved. We all know Michael truly, sincerely loved his fans and were strengthened, encouraged and found joy in that love, I'm asking you guys not to take that away. We can sit back and judge and criticize his family and I wont argue there are things we can criticize but my perpetual question to all here is if Michael were reading your words- how would he feel... If you feel justified in your hearts with what you write from this point on with such a thought posed in your mind then do as you will but if for some moment you think it would hurt his heart then I urge and compel you to think again before you press that post link.

God bless you guys!!!
 
I think Michael would be in desperate tears hearing his family talk negatively about him and seeing his mother selling herself and his kids out for money.

I didn't know Michael personally, never met him, but I definitely feel that he would be CRUSHED if he knew about the things "some" of his family members have said about him since his death.

Especially any discussion regarding his children. I "think" it's safe to say we ALL knew how Michael was, when it came to his children and their privacy.

I also believe the provisions he made in his will for his mother, was to prevent her from having to hook up with a character like the porn guy. He obviously wanted her to live comfortably with no worries.

I guess it's good that NONE of them knew about his will, otherwise that would have been another pressure for him to endure. That being "certain" family members bothering him to add them to his will in some way or another.
 
I didn't know Michael personally, never met him, but I definitely feel that he would be CRUSHED if he knew about the things "some" of his family members have said about him since his death.

Especially any discussion regarding his children. I "think" it's safe to say we ALL knew how Michael was, when it came to his children and their privacy.

I also believe the provisions he made in his will for his mother, was to prevent her from having to hook up with a character like the porn guy. He obviously wanted her to live comfortably with no worries.

I guess it's good that NONE of them knew about his will, otherwise that would have been another pressure for him to endure. That being "certain" family members bothering him to add them to his will in some way or another.
LOL! So true Big Apple..
 
We can sit back and judge and criticize his family and I wont argue there are things we can criticize but my perpetual question to all here is if Michael were reading your words- how would he feel.

Well I believe "Honesty Is The Best Policy."

And if Michael were reading some of our postings regarding this subject, he would "probably" agree with some of us.

Some of the things the family have said and done, cannot be justified nor glossed over, because they are just wrong. No other way to slice it, their actions have been not just wrong, but very wrong.

And I truly believe Michael would agree with that assessment!
 
pilinlim;3223140 said:
Cala a boca, aberração. Calou! Cabrona!

The more I read your posts the more I laugh.
((runs to google translater))........enters thread again........:clapping:
 
I didn't know Michael personally, never met him, but I definitely feel that he would be CRUSHED if he knew about the things "some" of his family members have said about him since his death.

Especially any discussion regarding his children. I "think" it's safe to say we ALL knew how Michael was, when it came to his children and their privacy.

I also believe the provisions he made in his will for his mother, was to prevent her from having to hook up with a character like the porn guy. He obviously wanted her to live comfortably with no worries.

I guess it's good that NONE of them knew about his will, otherwise that would have been another pressure for him to endure. That being "certain" family members bothering him to add them to his will in some way or another.

I'm sure they knew he had a will somewhere. They are all in business and they all at somepointbeither have/had money so theybwould have/had wills also. People don't have that kind of money and those assets and not have a will.
 
I "think" if Michael was still with us, we wouldn't have been exposed to the different things his family has done since June 25, 2009. So I would have felt the same about them as I did before June 25, 2009.

I don't believe his mother would have said his nose looked like a "toothpick," if Michael were still alive.

I don't believe Rebbie and Janet would have gone on television and spoke about the many, many interventions the family conducted, if Michael were still alive.

I don't believe LaToya would be talking about the little "Mexican" boy, if Michael were still alive.

I'm like this: "if you can't say it to my face, then don't say it at all." Same thing goes for Michael's family. I mean, if they didn't feel it was necessary to discuss those things in public before, why do they feel it's alright to discuss those things now?

I grew up with the Jacksons, and their actions after Michael's death are VERY DISAPPOINTING and somewhat surprising to be honest. I'm just very disappointed in the way they have handled themselves since Michael's death.

VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED! No hate. No anger. Just disappointment.
:agree:


Me too... :(
 
Well, you made how you feel very clear without using words filled with hate. That's good.
I'm going to leave this thread now and any who wants to stand for what they think Michael would want aid by his fans concerning his family encouraged to do so.
We have fans who believe Michael is still here and fans who believe he is in heaven but no matter where he is I do believe he has the ability to look upon us. Many on earth can easily look into a bulletin on a message board and many believe that those in heaven are able to watch over those they loved. We all know Michael truly, sincerely loved his fans and were strengthened, encouraged and found joy in that love, I'm asking you guys not to take that away. We can sit back and judge and criticize his family and I wont argue there are things we can criticize but my perpetual question to all here is if Michael were reading your words- how would he feel... If you feel justified in your hearts with what you write from this po
on with such a thought posed in your mind then do as you will but if for some moment y
think it would hurt his heart then I urge and compel you to think again before you press that
post link


I think most of us feel the family stab MJ in the back and throw him under the bus.
MJ would understand why we his fans are upset, and most of us are in shock about KJ action allowing mj kid on oprah has got Katherine in many of MJ fans bad book because we
had hold her to a standard and would not dream she would sell MJ out and sign his kids in
a contract to a person like Mann who have link to the porn world,
I don't know if you can't see the danger hear but some of us see, we hear talks of Paris wanting to be a movie star if Katherine allow the children to trust those people who is to say
the kind of influence they may impact on the children,
MJ love his mother and prove it many times over, I don't know why all he gave was not enough for them I guess they want it all,
It is the saddest thing I have seen in my life so far it's almost as if his family stop loving him as a person and only see him as a way to make money, if it hurt us like this how, do
you think MJ feel?
That is why we are talking about it his children and grand children are going to read about it in the history book, you can't hide the truth.
I feel if we talk about it with respect for MJ and don't call the family name there is not
 
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I'm sure they knew he had a will somewhere. They are all in business and they all at somepointbeither have/had money so theybwould have/had wills also. People don't have that kind of money and those assets and not have a will.
If I recall correctly, Katherine and Joe Jackson filed for control of Michael's estate IMMEDIATELY after he passed away. In my opinion, if they knew about his will they would have approached the person in possession of said will OR they would have just waited for that same person to approach them. They did neither.

I also believe if "they" had anything worth while, anything of value, anything to show for their years in the music business, "they" wouldn't be so GUNG-HO on getting their hands on Michael's estate. LOL!
 
If I recall correctly, Katherine and Joe Jackson filed for control of Michael's estate IMMEDIATELY after he passed away. In my opinion, if they knew about his will they would have approached the person in possession of said will OR they would have just waited for that same person to approach them. They did neither.

I also believe if "they" had anything worth while, anything of value, anything to show for their years in the music business, "they" wouldn't be so GUNG-HO on getting their hands on Michael's estate. LOL!

So true... Joe and Katherine didn't even own their home. Mike owned that too. After being in the business almost 50 years they have absolutely nothing of their own to show for it
 
Big Apple2;3224338 said:
If I recall correctly, Katherine and Joe Jackson filed for control of Michael's estate IMMEDIATELY after he passed away. In my opinion, if they knew about his will they would have approached the person in possession of said will OR they would have just waited for that same person to approach them. They did neither.

I also believe if "they" had anything worth while, anything of value, anything to show for their years in the music business, "they" wouldn't be so GUNG-HO on getting their hands on Michael's estate. LOL!
Yes, Katherine and Joe were in court on Monday June 29, 2009, claiming he died intestate and demanding Katherine to be named executor, thanks God that request was denied.


Court paper says Jackson died "intestate"

29 June 2009 @ 07:46 pm EDT

The parents of Pop icon Michael Jackson claimed Monday in court papers that their son died "intestate", meaning he left no valid will.

In the papers, Michael's mother Katherine Jackson requested the court allowing her to serve as administrator of Michael’s estate and as custody of her son’s three children.
A Los Angeles Superior Court judge on Monday approved the appointment of Katherine Jackson as temporary guardians of her son's three children, but not for estate, according the Associated Press reports.
A hearing has been set for August 3. In a written petition to the court, Katherine says that she "intends to marshal assets of (Michael Jackson) for the exclusive used of (Michael's) three children--her grandchildren-- after payment of debts and expenses of administration."
"Given the nature and extent of the descendant assents, it would be difficult if not impossible to quantify their value at this time," she claims in the papers.
Michael Jackson has three children, Prince Michael, 12, Paris Katherine, 11, and Prince Michael II, 7.
The first two are Jackson's children from his ex-wife Debbie Rowe and the third from an unidentified surrogate mother.
In court papers, Joe and Katherine Jackson said the children had "no relationship with their biological mother".
It is unclear whether Rowe may also seek custody.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20090629/court-paper-says-jackson-died-intestate.htm
 
So true... Joe and Katherine didn't even own their home. Mike owned that too. After being in the business almost 50 years they have absolutely nothing of their own to show for it

Man, that's the thing that makes you scratch your head! I mean, what were they ALL doing when the money was rolling in, didn't any of them think about planning for their futures?

It just "appears" that MOST of them have no business sense at all and all of these little money grabs just seem so desperate, in my opinion.

Thanks for providing that article twinklee, appreciate it!
 
Man, that's the thing that makes you scratch your head! I mean, what were they ALL doing when the money was rolling in, didn't any of them think about planning for their futures?

It just "appears" that MOST of them have no business sense at all and all of these little money grabs just seem so desperate, in my opinion.

Thanks for providing that article twinklee, appreciate it!
I agree with your statement....also they don't show to much common sense either....just look at some of the choices that have been made lately.
 
I agree with your statement....also they don't show to much common sense either....just look at some of the choices that have been made lately.
"Some" of them like to BRAG about being in the business for over 40 years, but in my opinion, their recent actions lead me to believe that they learned NOTHING in those 40+ years.

I'm a fan of Michael's and didn't really keep up with the other members of the family and I must admit that I was DEFINITELY shocked by their recent behaviour. I expected better from them. MUCH BETTER!
 
Katherine also claimed that she had no one to support her but MJ, and that her bills at Encino were all paid by MJ and putting her in charge of his money would have been very essential to her else her bills would not have been paid, she talked about credit cards supported by MJ...etc and how no one should stop the money she was getting from those accounts. Go figure, her son was under the coroner's knife and she's pleading the judge to put her in charge of his money so she could pay her bills.
 
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