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Murray Trial - October 11th - Day 10 - Discussion

Ramona122003 said:
It depends really. For example, if you go on google you can find a picture of JFK at the morgue with half his head blown off and a picture of Marilyn Monroe naked.
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You are exactly right. Imagine how President Kennedy's children must have felt watching their father get shot in the neck and head. They aren't shy about showing that on TV over and over again.
 
the link to the twitter account of that person comes up as not excisting. has it been shut down?
 
Autumn II said:
Yes. Cruelty. I think this is the first time in U.S. HISTORY, that such a photo has been used in court AND broadcast for the world to see? Michael deserved SO much better. I think now that there is no chance that his kids will NOT see it.

This was the ultimate in disrespect.
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I will disagree that it's first time in US history. Crime scene photos of Nicole Simpson has also been public. The minute it's shown in the court it's public record. The minute the judge allowed those 2 photos , they were bound to be released someway.
 
Ramona122003 said:
It depends really. For example, if you go on google you can find a picture of JFK at the morgue with half his head blown off and a picture of Marilyn Monroe naked.
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I was horrified we will be ... treated to something like this...
Those photos of MJ are horribly upsetting but AT LEAST they are not.. close ups or anything.
It is a bit comforting in a sense that he looks.. asleep (at least to me). I was afraid it will be even more horrific.
I just wish they finish at this, and that's it. I find it very upsetting that his privacy wasn't respected.
 
Justthefacts said:
The family has no say.
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They could have requested that the cameras be turned off. They are the victim's family. But then again this is the Jacksons we're talking about so........

Caring prosecutors usually take into consideration the victim's family's feelings.
 
ivy said:
I will disagree that it's first time in US history. Crime scene photos of Nicole Simpson has also been public. The minute it's shown in the court it's public record. The minute the judge allowed those 2 photos , they were bound to be released someway.
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Were they shown on tv though? I've never seen her death pictures.
 
witness clarifies the date on the pic is correct and the hole in the bottle does in his opinion come from a spike.showing a pic of the spike

march 29th looked at evidence and confirmed that the "broken" needle was an IV cathater that appeared unused and confirmed the syringe on the nightstand was not connected to the needle

cross flannagan
 
This has been a sad day for most of us. I hope everyone handled the viewing of that image well, in their own personal way. The one thing that image proved to most people after being shown to the public, is that Michael wasn't emancipated, and like some of us have been saying all along, he was relatively healthy for a male of his age.
 
Whether the kids have twitter or not, they' will see that picture because it's public. It's impossible to keep them in a bubble, because oh surprise, kids grow up.
I can't believe all this, where the f is the human dignity.
Mike was also human, how the f this happened.

They had more respect for Osama bin Laden.
 
The syringe on the nightstand did not fit the IV catheter. Photo aside, he is destroying the defense.
 
asking if he reviewed his notes and reports. review any expert reports? which ones? reviewed the coroners experts (several of them) review a review by steven shaffer? (thats the pig guy and the south american student guy correct?) yes he did look at shaffers
 
looked at midaz results. they are consistant with what murray said diazapam consistant with what murray said to police. lidocane consistant to what shaffer said .loraz based apon what murray said to the police dont make sense do they? they arent consitant? he doesnt know hes not a toxicologist. asks about diprivan and u cant be certain who gave it. witness says correct. (wrong answer)
 
(I rarely post, but...)

What gets to me about this picture is the pointlessness of the whole... Murray MAY go to jail 4 years... its absolutely pathetic!
If only there a real possibility that the murdering doctor may spend the rest of his own life behind bars, then I might have seen this as something painfull we just had to get through, but now... What is the point really? The pain never stops...
 
Popescu said:
Neither of them appears to be on twitter at the moment, but there will be damage since they have unrestricted Internet access.
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Prince and Paris are probably at school right now, trying to get an education as kids do and some fool is on the Internet ******* with them!:censored:
 
Limonali said:
You mean even if they were not showed in tv but just in the court, to jurors today, they would be released later?
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goldiee said:
Were they shown on tv though? I've never seen her death pictures.
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Nicole Simpson photos wasn't shown "live" but they were on the media next day.and that's what I'm saying once they become public record media would have gotten them one way or another. and if you google for nicole simpson photos you'll find them online as well.
 
why would someone spike a diprivan. he says to basically set a drip. continuas amount of diprivan. if u wanted to mix diprivan in a saline bag u would spike it to empty it into the bag? flanangan going on about mixing saline and dip together and thats why he spiked the bottle.(but isnt that admitting murray gave a drip??) going about % of mixing it. if it was given that way there would be diprivan in the bag its also sticky and u would see it in the iv tubing. asks him if he saw any diprivan in the bag or tubing. (there was no diprivan in the bag long tubing as we know) only evidence of diprivan is in the y connector and the short tubing.(as we know)

(my words) which saline bag are they talking about? the one still hung up? cause the defence are making a good argument by talking about the saline bag that was still hung up. that wasnt the bag with the diprivan bottle in it. yet its prob making the jury think why was there no diprivan in the bag and the long tubing. its making it look like the only way the diprivan was given was via the short tubing. ie mj injected it and it never came from a drip
 
Mariuana said:
I was really upset a lot with showing that pics. Did the family have to allowed this exhibition or they couldn't do anything if pros decided to show it? Or maybe they allowed the broadcasting of the courtcase at all?
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The family knew they were gonna be showed. Wahlgren told them when and that is why Katherine and Rebbie left.

About twitter, kids are at school right now, warnings have been made over what is happening on twitter.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
(my words) which saline bag are they talking about? the one still hung up? cause the defence are making a good argument by talking about the saline bag that was still hung up. that wasnt the bag with the diprivan bottle in it. yet its prob making the jury think why was there no diprivan in the bag and the long tubing. its making it look like the only way the diprivan was given was via the short tubing. ie mj injected it and it never came from a drip
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Yes, he's talking about the wrong bag. That should be easy for Walgren ...
 
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