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Murray Trial Day 22, November 1st

From tmz:

Conrad Murray Trial
The Defense Rests

The fat lady is about to sing in the Dr. Conrad Murray manslaughter trial -- because the defense has rested its case and are now gearing up for closing arguments.

Closing arguments are scheduled to begin Thursday morning -- but the defense won't be submitting any new evidence ... so if they haven't needled the jury with reasonable doubt yet in the death of Michael Jackson, they're facing an uphill battle.

It's also worth pointing out -- jurors notoriously hate coming back to court on Monday if they can help it ... which means there's a 99.9999% chance they'll come up with a verdict by Friday, presuming closing arguments don't drag on.
 
Popescu said:
From tmz:

Conrad Murray Trial
The Defense Rests

The fat lady is about to sing in the Dr. Conrad Murray manslaughter trial -- because the defense has rested its case and are now gearing up for closing arguments.

Closing arguments are scheduled to begin Thursday morning -- but the defense won't be submitting any new evidence ... so if they haven't needled the jury with reasonable doubt yet in the death of Michael Jackson, they're facing an uphill battle.

It's also worth pointing out -- jurors notoriously hate coming back to court on Monday if they can help it ... which means there's a 99.9999% chance they'll come up with a verdict by Friday, presuming closing arguments don't drag on.
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huh how is that known the jurors hate to come back today??????????
 
elusive moonwalker said:
Everythibg is over. closing statements thursday the defence didnt call that dr woman who did the models for white. shaffer rebuted for the pros
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thank you :)

Popescu said:
He did great! Shafer testified re the urine and Propofol, they debunked White's testimony. CM never took the stand. The closings are Thursday at 9 am.
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Thank you...:) hahah,,,,,Glad he debunked White.. I totally wish Murray would of taken that stand...would of loved to see Walgren eat him for lunch.,

Milka said:
Rebuttal over. Not trial tomorrow, closing arguments on Thursday.
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Thank you. :) I will see Thursday's closing arguments,,,I got that day off.
 
I have to be honest here, I never wanted the trial to be over so soon for selfish purposes, what r we supposed to do after the verdict? My life revolved around Michael Jackson and this case for years, now this case ending, idk what I should/could do with myself. I have no idea, I don't wanna distance myself from Michael.
 
twinklEE said:
this is like a ''this is it'' moment, I mean is this it for us? It's like the end of a horrible road. idk
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yes, that's how I see it, the end of a horrible road. We needed to go through it, understand what happened. At least I needed that.

I think after the verdict I'll be feeling empty again, just like 2 years ago. I can't expect a "not guilty verdict", I really don't. So I hope I can see the verdict live, hear the word "guilty", and who knows, see him handcuffed in court. After that, it will take some time... what I'm sure of, is that I don't ever want to see Murray's face again.

It was probably my last "live" session of the trial today , since I'll be working thursday, I'll be back for the afternoon session if there is one.

Thank you all for being here !
 
twinklEE said:
I have to be honest here, I never wanted the trial to be over so soon for selfish purposes, what r we supposed to do after the verdict? My life revolved around Michael Jackson and this case for years, now this case ending, idk what I should/could do with myself. I have no idea, I don't wanna distance myself from Michael.
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I have been thinking this for weeks.....HOW do we put this behind us...for many of us Michael has been apart of our lives for over 30 years...I just dont know. :hug: it is going to be so hard to just...walk away ..:(
 
twinklEE said:
I have to be honest here, I never wanted the trial to be over so soon for selfish purposes, what r we supposed to do after the verdict? My life revolved around Michael Jackson and this case for years, now this case ending, idk what I should/could do with myself. I have no idea, I don't wanna distance myself from Michael.
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Michael will ALWAYS be in your heart, none of us will ever forget him. You can still love Michael and try to rebuild your life after the verdict. Michael would want us to go on and remember him with joy.
 
agree twinkle and thunder

But how did tmz now the jurors hated to came in today?????

And why werent fingerprinst, and especiall flumanzil not adressed with shafer today? And why not make sure he told the jury again there where several violations? xx
 
twinklEE said:
I have to be honest here, I never wanted the trial to be over so soon for selfish purposes, what r we supposed to do after the verdict? My life revolved around Michael Jackson and this case for years, now this case ending, idk what I should/could do with myself. I have no idea, I don't wanna distance myself from Michael.
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twink you are reading my mind this is exactly how i feel. now the testimony is over and its sinking in i feel pretty emotional could do with a goid cry now
 
Ingelief said:
huh how is that known the jurors hate to come back today??????????
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It's known from other trials. That's why it says "jurors notoriously hate coming back to court on Monday if they can help it".
 
elusive moonwalker said:
twink you are reading my mind this is exactly how i feel. now the testimony is over and its sinking in i feel pretty emotional could do with a goid cry now
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A big hug and love for you. I know you may not like me because we had our differents, but i really thank you for the updates., and want you to know your not alone on that feeling!
 
I wish Walgren had looked more enthusiastic at the end, it worries me because the defence looked quite confident, or perhaps I'm just scared.
I really believe the prosecution have done a great job and the defence have not, but I'm still scared.

I would also like to thank everyone for all the updates, you were all fantastic, there were occasions I would loose my sound for 2..3mins or my ears were not brilliant all of the time but I was able to keep up thanks to you all:flowers:. All I want now is a Guilty verdict.
 
Ingelief said:
agree twinkle and thunder

But how did tmz now the jurors hated to came in today?????
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The article was saying jurors typically don't like to come back to court on Mondays so to avoid that they will most likely come up with a verdict by Friday (though I'm not sure if that's true).
 
Ingelief said:
oh ok.. what does notoriously mean? like maybe?
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means well known in this context, what the tmz article was referring to was that jurors are known to hate to come back on monday's when they go into deliberation in the middle of the week (or Thursday, as it seems in this case), they'd rather reach a verdict by the end of the week i.e. Friday instead of dragging it to the next week
 
I understand that empty feeling, and I share it. I guess we had something to focus on after Michael passed. It kept us busy in a way maybe. Now it's just us and our loss, and if some will get closure from the verdict (hopefully), I know already know it wont change much. And there's nothing we can do to make it better.
 
rita.gibson said:
I wish Walgren had looked more enthusiastic at the end, it worries me because the defence looked quite confident, or perhaps I'm just scared.I really believe the prosecution have done a great job and the defence have not, but I'm still scared.I would also like to thank everyone for all the updates, you were all fantastic, there were occasions I would loose my sound for 2..3mins or my ears were not brilliant all of the time but I was able to keep up thanks to you all:flowers:. All I want now is a Guilty verdict.
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defence looked like had given up imo. cerainly didnt look confident
 
rita.gibson said:
I wish Walgren had looked more enthusiastic at the end, it worries me because the defence looked quite confident, or perhaps I'm just scared.
I really believe the prosecution have done a great job and the defence have not, but I'm still scared.
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Walgren looked and sounded really tired, so I think there's nothing to worry about. The defense looked confident, until a tired David Walgren asked a few questions, and after that, to me, Flanagan turned again into Flanazapam .....
 
twinklEE said:
I have to be honest here, I never wanted the trial to be over so soon for selfish purposes, what r we supposed to do after the verdict? My life revolved around Michael Jackson and this case for years, now this case ending, idk what I should/could do with myself. I have no idea, I don't wanna distance myself from Michael.
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I feel the same right now, I so wanted this case to start so that we could get that guilty verdict and I could then focus on doing everything I can to support Michaels legacy (and of course I will do that ) but the emptiness will never disappear I just wanted that to go away but instead we all have to learn to live with it.
I suppose that by keeping him alive in our hearts is all we can do now.
 
Judges orders lawyers back into court at 1400 to discuss jury instructions
 
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