Monster - The Great Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

[JacksonMan]

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if u listen 2 his vocals on wbss08 then monster, you can hear the similarities in his voice and if this was a demo...then yea...i say its him

while I dono't doubt it's him, I do not feel like his vocals on wbss 08 sound like his vocals on monster, but I'll take another listen. It's been a few years since I've heard it.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

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"I secretely met Michael Jackson before he died. He said to me that Cascios were pushing him to collaborate with them. He refused to record anything for them, because he wasn't comfortable with the idea."

Now without any physical or tangible trace of what Michael said to me prove 100% without hesitation that I am wrong.

 

[samhabib]

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Man... I can't wait to get on my computer to discuss this! Jacksonman tries to distance Arklove from being a fan because she joined after Michael's death?!? Even though he joined over a full year after she joined?!? Absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous!

 

[wolfrevenant]

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I never fell into the category of rude, stubborn, and arrogantly assuming that I know better than sound forensics experts. I never fell into the category of putting blinders on. If people had pointed out to me, what I pointed out to these guys, I'd have said "my bad" I was wrong.

But your post is exactly what I was commenting on. One would think that someone who had a taste of both views, would respect both groups of opinion, without accusing one side of "putting blinders on".

Besides, do you understand why there are still doubters around? It's probably because they haven't seen the reports of these forensic experts. I'll give you an example. One of the posters here, said he/she sent the acapellas of BN and another MJ song to two musicologists and forensic audio experts, and one of them wrote back, saying that the vocals are not the same. If the non-believers decide to run with that, saying that you are being stubborn for assuming you know better than the expert this poster consulted, are they being rational?

Honestly, I haven't read the past posts, so I wouldn't know what gave rise to all this recent hostility. My best advice, is that if someone is being "stubborn" or "close-minded" to you, then either move on or just continue to debate as objectively as possible. There's no need to start accusing people of being stubborn, because you'll only be lowering yourself. The readers can see for themselves of who is being stubborn, you just need to be above all of that.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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So basically nothing new here...the shit is still going on. And of course there'll always be someone who can't stand the fact that there are people who don't believe in these tracks, and start calling them stubborn and what not. Well my friend..JacksonMan in this case, i feel sorry for you...sorry that you can't hear the difference. Are you actually gonna tell me that when you hear Monster, you don't hear someone else? Wow...i truly feel sorry for you then. See what i'm doing? I'm doing exactly the same as you...not respecting your opinion.

It's fine that you turned around and all of a sudden believe in the songs because....sigh....of the analysis, oh yeah...that makes it's 100% proof man, WOW! If they had this kind of proof, why haven't they still shown it? It's really not that hard for them. Something ain't right, and people know it. The three tracks are a joke, a bad joke. Has ZERO to do with that it was recorded in a basement studio, cause why DO we clearly hear Michael on the phone recording then? Why do we clearly hear him on any kind of demo? Why was there never any analysis of songs nessecary until these shit songs came out? Do tell me that...but of course, you can't.

Open your ears people, really....the more i hear Monster and the other two tracks (and i try to keep that at a minimum) the more i clearly hear it's SO not Michael. I don't even care about words from sony or estate that they have done tests, oh you did huh? Then show it. By showing real proof you could remove this whole ongoing fiasco.

 

[samhabib]

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i found some more posted by the now ARDENT supporter of "omgz, of course it's MJ camp", JacksonMan. from november, not september, my mistake:

"this couldn't possibly stop me from getting the dvd. Fans punishing themselves by depriving them of MJ's music is only going to tarnish his legacy even further. Reject the crap that isn't MJ, and then buy the DVD that we all know is MJ.

HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY PULL THIS CRAP?!!!!!!!!!!" --JacksonMan

"It's fake with a tiny bit of Michael once in a while . What if Sony is testing the waters to see if it's safe or not to try and fool us? Perhaps they have a few songs ready to go using some impersonator, and that's why this isn't an actual single. Perhaps now that they see they can't fool us, they will put out some statement saying it was a mistake. Then they will secretly pull all the tracks which include an impersonator from the album." --JacksonMan

"I'm hearing the track right now for the first time. I'm halfway through. WTF?

edit... Oh my freaking God. How could they expect an eight year old child to not be able to tell the difference between this guy and Michael Jackson. " --JacksonMan

"A lot of people are saying that the last half of the track is MJ. The last half is what raises the most doubts for me. It's possible MJ was just choosing to sing in a different sounding voice, which is why the first half sounds like it's sung by a different person.

The second half sounds like him, but it doesn't sound like it's sung by him. It doesn't sound like MJ trying to sound different. It sounds like somebody trying to sound like MJ. The ad lybs sound very simmilair to MJ, minus the emotion, power, and vibrato. If MJ wanted to sound different he wouldn't just use his same old classic screaming voice, and then remove his emotion and skills to make it sound different. He'd either sing in a completely different voice or he would keep his emotion, power, and vibrato at max.

I say it's possible MJ is singing this track. But I lean towards believing it's not. You add up the way it sounds, the refusal of McCalin to work on these tracks because of his belief that it's not MJ, MJ's kids saying "we were there when the Cascio tracks were recorded. This ain't one of those songs. It's not our Dad." Then factor in his mom's statements.

There is an awful lot of smoke for there to not be any kind of fire." --JacksonMan

Wow, JacksonMan from the past, I agree with you!

Pure comedy. Absolutely pure comedy.

Oh my freaking God. How could they expect an eight year old child to not be able to tell the difference between this guy and Michael Jackson. " --JacksonMan

With fans like this, no wonder Sony take the p!ss!

 

[samhabib]

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i found some more posted by the now ardent supporter of "omgz, of course it's mj camp", jacksonman. From november, not september, my mistake:

"this couldn't possibly stop me from getting the dvd. Fans punishing themselves by depriving them of mj's music is only going to tarnish his legacy even further. reject the crap that isn't mj, and then buy the dvd that we all know is mj.

how could they possibly pull this crap?!!!!!!!!!!" --jacksonman

"it's fake with a tiny bit of michael once in a while . What if sony is testing the waters to see if it's safe or not to try and fool us? Perhaps they have a few songs ready to go using some impersonator, and that's why this isn't an actual single. Perhaps now that they see they can't fool us, they will put out some statement saying it was a mistake. Then they will secretly pull all the tracks which include an impersonator from the album." --jacksonman

"i'm hearing the track right now for the first time. I'm halfway through. Wtf?

Edit... oh my freaking god. How could they expect an eight year old child to not be able to tell the difference between this guy and michael jackson. " --jacksonman

"a lot of people are saying that the last half of the track is mj. The last half is what raises the most doubts for me. It's possible mj was just choosing to sing in a different sounding voice, which is why the first half sounds like it's sung by a different person.

The second half sounds like him, but it doesn't sound like it's sung by him. it doesn't sound like mj trying to sound different. It sounds like somebody trying to sound like mj. the ad lybs sound very simmilair to mj, minus the emotion, power, and vibrato. If mj wanted to sound different he wouldn't just use his same old classic screaming voice, and then remove his emotion and skills to make it sound different. He'd either sing in a completely different voice or he would keep his emotion, power, and vibrato at max.

I say it's possible mj is singing this track. But i lean towards believing it's not. You add up the way it sounds, the refusal of mccalin to work on these tracks because of his belief that it's not mj, mj's kids saying "we were there when the cascio tracks were recorded. This ain't one of those songs. It's not our dad." then factor in his mom's statements.

There is an awful lot of smoke for there to not be any kind of fire." --jacksonman

wow, jacksonman from the past, i agree with you!

Game. Set. Match.

 

[Arklove]

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Man... I can't wait to get on my computer to discuss this! Jacksonman tries to distance Arklove from being a fan because she joined after Michael's death?!? Even though he joined over a full year after she joined?!? Absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous!

:lol: Crazy, eh?

Pure comedy. Absolutely pure comedy.

Oh my freaking God. How could they expect an eight year old child to not be able to tell the difference between this guy and Michael Jackson. " --JacksonMan

With fans like this, no wonder Sony take the p!ss!

Game. Set. Match.

:yes:

 

[MJJuniorSinceMW]

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based on the fact that it's on a MIchael Jackson album, it's been authenticated with voice analyzizers which is just as accurate as fingerprinting, and the fact that the ad lybs sound exactly like Michael Jackson, and how identical it sound when he says "do you like what you see?"

The rest of the songs it sounds like MJ is trying to sound different, very different, like something you would hear in a club. I think he wanted younger crowds to go "whoa that's Michael Jackson?"

Does anybody know of any possible way for a voice analyzizer to be wrong? And out of all 7 billion people on the planet, the analyzing software just so happens to mistake it for Michael Jackson?

If it was J. M., during the verses, wouldn't he try to sound like MJ?

Then you are terribly lazy! If I had such an absolutely, undeniable, verifiable proof... I would do something different than just discuss it on boards and showing questionnable clips.
I would move heaven and earth to become justice!
I don't know what moves you to discuss it but make no further steps...

MJ didn't need an impersonator because he would just use his own voice. Same goes for Sony. they have plenty of songs with his voice. So why would they need an impersonator?

so they paid 250 million dollars for the rights to music recorded by MJ, but then used songs not recorded by MJ? that makes no sense at all. They have 250 million reasons to use MJ's voice. they didn't pay 250 million dollars to use Malachi's voice. They have 250 million reasons to use MJ's voice. They aren't looking for some public relations nightmare. In fact they have a couple billion reasons not to want that. It would destroy their stock shares and everything. What economist working for Sony is going to tell this is a good idea? what the hell parallel capitalist universe is this idea even compatible with the goal of making money?
It sounds a lot different. come on. Be honest. I know that you know it sounds a lot different. A few years back people on you tube were having this same discussion about shout and 2000 watts.

You can tell it's him because it sounds like him.

We only recognize so many of his vocal styles as him, because we have heard him do those before.

Your not giving the man his due credit. LIsten to the part in shout where he sings "how we make this world to be." It actually sounds 100% exactly like the same person singing the verses on Breaking News. the verses on shout sound 100% exactly like the verses on Monster.

the only difference is the melody. skip to 1:30 to hear the vocal style he used on the verses for breaking news. just listen to the whole song to hear the vocal styles used for the verses in monster. I'm not talking about the chorus in shout. The rest of the song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPiGY58x9cE

It's terming that everyday there is someone new stepping in, 'fighting' for the truth. But always the same stubborn people denying the facts.
Nice to see.

 

[samhabib]

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'fighting' for the truth.

Surely you should have written 'fighting for the 'truth''?

 

[samhabib]

you'll have to ask Gaz. Gaz put this in a sticky closed thread. I believe it was actually given directly to MJJ community forum by Sony. That's how I found out about it. I don't know where it is now.

That's a blatant, provable, bare-faced lie. At no stage has Sony - via Gaz or MJJC - claimed the 'forensic audiologists' findings found a '100% match'. So I'd thank you to stop lying.

That's because George Bush already admitted he was wrong about the WMDs. If bush was up on tv right now saying "we did find those weapons" then it would be a different story.

No. There were experts who had conducted searches and had found that Iraq had NO weapons of mass destruction. George Bush claiming they did or they didn't doesn't' make a damn bit of difference. Everything he said was politically motivated. A bit like Sony's assertions all being business motivated. "Yes it's Michael on the records… now give us £10 for a copy".

Do it. Your willing to sit here and argue with me but not the perpetrators themselves? Go make a few million if your so confident. The only thing stopping you is your own doubts. Don't do it for me. Do it for MJ.

Law enforcement ain't my job. Besides, your pathetic attempt to undermine legitimate debate with 'sue Sony' just makes you look even more desperate.

"The only thing stopping you is your own doubts." - What a completely ridiculous thing to say. Completely ridiculous. I have absolutely NO doubt that MIchael Jackson DOES NOT sing those songs. And, again, I'd thank you to stop lying about that.

My take on the abomination has been consistent from day one. HENCE, no doubt!

YOU'RE the one who has been flitting from one opinion to the next. It's almost schizophrenic the about-face you've made. "An eight year old child" could tell the difference according to you. Now it's "I feel it's too obvious for anybody not to realize it". You're all over the place. You should debate with yourself, really, and then come back when you've come to a sane conclusion.

I was going to go through one of your longer posts but, after reading your original comments re the Cascio tracks, it would be a waste of time. You already know that they're completely bogus. Or you did know. Or you sometimes know. Or… what is it today??? Back to the 'eight year old child' quote? Or 'too obvious' again? Very suspicious behaviour. I'll say that much. Very suspicious.

 

[barok232]

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^ Sam, you know I agree with you 100%, but please don't do multiple posts in a row, it is very annoying

 

[MJsweden]

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Isn't There A Way We Can Find Out? Like A Meeting With Sony Or A Court?

I Just Want Everybody To Know The Truth

 

[samhabib]

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^ Sam, you know I agree with you 100%, but please don't do multiple posts, it is very annoying

Sorry dude - there were a lot of posts aimed at me last night which needed addressing. I'm going out now so I won't post again for most of the day

 

[barok232]

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Sorry dude - there were a lot of posts aimed at me last night which needed addressing. I'm going out now so I won't post again for most of the day

I meant consecutive posts, sorry. I didn't mean stop posting!

 

[Arklove]

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edit.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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For all the believers out there...just check this out. And please don't go denying that these vocals are IDENTICAL. Don't jump to conclusions without listening to this. If i was someone who believed in the Cascio tracks..this surely would have schocked me.

[youtube]_gaNIiFM6WQ[/youtube]

 

[Vlens]

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I wonder, what will you guy's say or feel when it's proven the tracks are not fake?

To me (i think the songs are real) it would feel weird, cause i think Michael was making another awsome album, imagine if he could have finished it. Invincible to me was... i don't know... good but not great. In my opinion, Monster, keep your head up, hollywood tonight, heck, all the songs on this album i like more.

We know michael was working on songs for a new album, but where are they if these casio tracks are fake? Hollywood tonight, best of joy, songs with Will.i.am,... really, where are his last songs than?

Michael, to me, was back on track ... I like Monster, keep your head up and behind the mask the most of his new album ...

And i know many people feel the same

Imagine if these are fake? Then people are loving the songs of an imposter more then MJ himself? That would be .... really strange

 

[loka]

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For all the believers out there...just check this out. And please don't go denying that these vocals are IDENTICAL. Don't jump to conclusions without listening to this. If i was someone who believed in the Cascio tracks..this surely would have schocked me.

[youtube]_gaNIiFM6WQ[/youtube]

did you just discover that Malachi sounds like Michael Jackson ?

well I thought we knew it since few years now

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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did you just discover that Malachi sounds like Michael Jackson ?

well I thought we knew it since few years now

You completely misunderstand me. It's pretty obvious this asshole is trying way too hard to sound like Michael, F him for that...really. Come with your own stuff or simply quit.

My point is, the vocals on the Cascio tracks in that youtube video are IDENTICAL, exactly the same as the vocals from the Jason Malachi songs. This is yet another example of how he's on the Cascio tracks. I didn't need any convincing , cause i didn't believe any of it from the start. This was simply for the believers out there.

Also this....oh my god, how can people deny this?!!!!!! The high pitch part is exactly the same!!!!!

[youtube]1fIUJX0V9TU[/youtube]

[youtube]GqSUzidgI2s[/youtube]

It's all fine if people want to believe in it...but they cannot deny this, it's impossible to deny.

 

[Vlens]

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For all the believers out there...just check this out. And please don't go denying that these vocals are IDENTICAL. Don't jump to conclusions without listening to this. If i was someone who believed in the Cascio tracks..this surely would have schocked me.

[youtube]_gaNIiFM6WQ[/youtube]

I have heard douzens of comparisons from that jason guy, but there's still a difference. Sure, it's not as easy to tell then before with michael sounding like that.

But Jason denied any involvement. And i never liked music from that guy... he never had a big hit, and all of the sudden, he has a monster hit (monster), keep your head up (beautiful song) , all i need .... ten songs that could make the album. So he never makes awsome songs for himself but when he has to sing for another artist, he comes with this?
And what with a song half michael half jason? To me it's always the same voice (except breaking news, but we know why)

And why in gods name would sony use this if they paid so much money for MJ's music ... o, yea, we could use Jason, and make sure the differents will be noticed! Cause if they really really tried to fake songs, they did a better job to hide the differences. they would not procceed with the album when breaking news was released and everyone talked about the fake songs ...
That would be just plain stupid, sony would risk to much with this ...

To me jason Malachi is an obsession for fans. And is here only place for debating fake or real. Cause i just want to talk about the song, but this thread is just filled with this ... always the same, always trying to convince each other. I'm not trying to convince you guy's but what's the point of debating anymore? people have made up there mind... Let's wait for proof please and just enjoy MJ's music, with are without monster, keep your head up and breaking news....

 

[loka]

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You completely misunderstand me.
[youtube]1fIUJX0V9TU[/youtube]

I understood but you missed my point

it's not a surprise to find similarities between the 2 voices imo....

not a surprise at all !

 

[Vlens]

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You completely misunderstand me. It's pretty obvious this asshole is trying way too hard to sound like Michael, F him for that...really. Come with your own stuff or simply quit.

My point is, the vocals on the Cascio tracks in that youtube video are IDENTICAL, exactly the same as the vocals from the Jason Malachi songs. This is yet another example of how he's on the Cascio tracks. I didn't need any convincing , cause i didn't believe any of it from the start. This was simply for the believers out there.

Also this....oh my god, how can people deny this?!!!!!! The high pitch part is exactly the same!!!!!

[youtube]1fIUJX0V9TU[/youtube]

Monster, keep your head up, ... sounds more like MJ We are the world 2006. But that's just my opinion

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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There have been countless comparisons of the vocals but IMO these are the most striking and shocking. In no way do they sound like Michael. There's simply no logic to it neither.

Best of joy, according to the producer that song is very recent and he was gonna perform it during This is it. Michael's voice is crystal clear, no single doubt. So the argument of some people who say that his voice has changed a bit over the years, it's really not very valid, cause it really hadn't changed that much at all. Another example are the live vocals during TII.

I've said from day one that the whole situation is crazy, i can claim that Sony is trying to fool people and hoping they can get away with it. And that's a very possible scenario, but i can't prove it. They say they have done all kinds of tests, yet they don't show anything...i wonder why. Of course Jason Malachi is gonna deny everything. Let's say you are him, and you make a deal with Sony...of course you are not gonna spill the beans to people on the internet. It's only super normal that he'll deny everything.

And no, sorry...these songs lyrically, musically got nothing on Michael's work. Nothing..the lyrics are ridiculously simple and very amateurish compared to Michael's. ' Ooooh hooo Hollywood, it's got you jumping like you should,its got you bouncing off the wall, drunk enough to fall?!!!!!!! ' hahahahah really?!!!!!!!

So let's just forget what Estate/Sony said...and listen to your ears. Check those comparions. Check the high pitched parts, check the way words are pronounced.....how much chances are there it's Michael? Or Jason? Come on now.


A brand new one....undeniable!!!!!!!!!!!!

[youtube]q7H9as2UKT4[/youtube]

 

[Vlens]

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There have been countless comparisons of the vocals but IMO these are the most striking and shocking. In no way do they sound like Michael. There's simply no logic to it neither.

Best of joy, according to the producer that song is very recent and he was gonna perform it during This is it. Michael's voice is crystal clear, no single doubt. So the argument of some people who say that his voice has changed a bit over the years, it's really not very valid, cause it really hadn't changed that much at all. Another example are the live vocals during TII.

I've said from day one that the whole situation is crazy, i can claim that Sony is trying to fool people and hoping they can get away with it. And that's a very possible scenario, but i can't prove it. They say they have done all kinds of tests, yet they don't show anything...i wonder why. Of course Jason Malachi is gonna deny everything. Let's say you are him, and you make a deal with Sony...of course you are not gonna spill the beans to people on the internet. It's only super normal that he'll deny everything.

So let's just forget what Estate/Sony said...and listen to your ears. Check those comparions. Check the high pitched parts, check the way words are pronounced.....how much chances are there it's Michael? Or Jason? Come on now.


A brand new one....undeniable!!!!!!!!!!!!


[youtube]q7H9as2UKT4[/youtube]

but i don't see it. We already knew jason sounded like michael. Sure, the new tracks sounds different. But IMO, still michael.

But where are all the other songs michael made between 2006-2009 if these are fake? What do you think about the writing? You can't say tje writing is not him. So did he just wrote songs and never recorded them? that's weird? And if michael sang pieces of the songs, how come it's so different to tell which?

 

[samhabib]

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Sure, the new tracks sounds different. But IMO, still michael.

So your assertion is that the vocals sound different hence it's Michael? That's one hell of a stance!

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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but i don't see it. We already knew jason sounded like michael. Sure, the new tracks sounds different. But IMO, still michael.

But where are all the other songs michael made between 2006-2009 if these are fake? What do you think about the writing? You can't say tje writing is not him. So did he just wrote songs and never recorded them? that's weird? And if michael sang pieces of the songs, how come it's so different to tell which?

Jason never sounded so much like Michael, that it actually had LOTS of people fooled. All of that started when these Cascio tracks came out. The comparison videos i posted...are what i say proof, for me it's proof. The vocals are identical. They tried very hard to make him sound like MJ, but i know they failed.

That's the thing, there are no doubt loads of songs yet to be released, but no matter what, they were so goddamn determined to put these Cascio tracks out, sigh. I can't know for sure he didn't write them, but i don't believe it for a second. Michael writing 'Drunk enough to fall' oh please......for one, it has ZERO to do with the subject Monster too, sad really. Obviously not written by the king.

And i never said he sang any pieces on these tracks, some people did at first, but after some good analysis and comparison videos, it's clear Michael is nowhere to be heard. Oh yeah..he is....the ad libs, LOL! I hear only one vocal on these three tracks, no-one of them MJ.

 

[Vlens]

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So your assertion is that the vocals sound different hence it's Michael? That's one hell of a stance!

com' on now! I never said it doesn't sound like MJ, i just say he sounds different cause of the reasons said millions times. I don't want to debate about this, i just want to talk about the songs and enjoy MJ's new music.
So i'm going of this forum for a while, untill things are back to normal!
It's not i don't have arguments, but i don't see the point if we keep saying the same things and i keep believing, and you keep not believing


Nevertheless, i hope one day we can just talk about MJ's music without all these bad feelings We are all just fan of this legend ...

 

[Vlens]

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Jason never sounded so much like Michael, that it actually had LOTS of people fooled. All of that started when these Cascio tracks came out. The comparison videos i posted...are what i say proof, for me it's proof. The vocals are identical. They tried very hard to make him sound like MJ, but i know they failed.

That's the thing, there are no doubt loads of songs yet to be released, but no matter what, they were so goddamn determined to put these Cascio tracks out, sigh. I can't know for sure he didn't write them, but i don't believe it for a second. Michael writing 'Drunk enough to fall' oh please......for one, it has ZERO to do with the subject Monster too, sad really. Obviously not written by the king.

And i never said he sang any pieces on these tracks, some people did at first, but after some good analysis and comparison videos, it's clear Michael is nowhere to be heard. Oh yeah..he is....the ad libs, LOL! I hear only one vocal on these three tracks, no-one of them MJ.

monster to me is michael true and true! And what's wrong with that sentince? Just like many fans think michael never touched alcohol ... and the text screams MJ to me! The monster is the paparazzi, drunk enough to fall can also have another meaning. That you have enough of everything that happened, it's too much, that made him fall. Or it can mean what it say's.

 

[ivy]

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My point is, the vocals on the Cascio tracks in that youtube video are IDENTICAL, exactly the same as the vocals from the Jason Malachi songs. This is yet another example of how he's on the Cascio tracks. I didn't need any convincing , cause i didn't believe any of it from the start. This was simply for the believers out there.

Also this....oh my god, how can people deny this?!!!!!! The high pitch part is exactly the same!!!!!

It's all fine if people want to believe in it...but they cannot deny this, it's impossible to deny.

If I can answer this - we kinda discussed this on the other thread as well.

when you listen to Jason Malachi songs , YES you find a line, a sentence, a word that DOES sound like Michael (or Cascio songs like you call it). and that youtube videos pick and choose those parts and compare it to Cascio songs to make a point. (so it's a selective comparison not an objective one by the way)

However if you listen to whole Jason Malachi songs you see that some parts actually do not sound like Michael (or Cascio songs like you call it) at all.

It's kinda finding a E'Casonava picture with the correct lighting and angle etc and say it's Michael when hundred other pictures of him look obviously nothing like him.