MJ Forever Tribute/ MJJC Statement / Estate statement / Fan letter pg51/ GLE put on administration

Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

There is no terrible decision on the part of Katherine in relation to Michael's children.

Among other terrible decisions, Katherine Jackson signed a contract with Howard Mann, who has had a career as a pornography producer! Many of us here have read that contract. In it, she signs up Michael's children for LIFE, to make public appearances and do other things, for her payment. I believe it was 10k for each appearance? It's possible that their advertised appearance at the GLE show is part of that? The contract was not legal, but since then, they've appeared on the Oprah show (she was someone who was extremely ugly and disrespectful to Michael), and the kids have appeared on camera promoting Joe's products. There is no possibly WAY, on God's blue earth, that Michael would have approved of that. And no, fans don't have to GUESS about that! Michael tried so hard to keep his kids out of the public eye, and to give them normal lives.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

There is no way in hell Michael wanted his children raised this way. They are being sold right and left to the highest bidder. How is that respecting Michael's wishes for them?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Allright, please let us get back on track with this thread.

MariAndMichael has an unswerving point of view and we will just keep batting our head against a brick wall. Until he/she is willing to reveal his/her connection to the Jackson family, there is nothing more to be said.

Let us just move along ...
 
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brace yourselves. Global Live Events sent this email to MJ4Justice

GLE's Letter to members of the MJ Fan Community


Thank you for the opportunity to send a message to Michael’s fans though your club. I know the fans have a number of concerns, most of which were highlighted in Mr Weitzman’s open letter to Chris Hunt. Others have come to the fore since, and I will discuss these also. I have been talking to a number of fan club presidents, and although the emphasis has been different, the core issues are clear.

Equally, our endeavours are clear also: We are presenting the Jackson family tribute to Michael. We have artists of international stature, or with meaningful links to Michael’s music, or both. Together with Christina Aguilera, Ne-Yo and Cee Lo Green, we have performers who have sympathetically and successfully presented Michael’s material – Craig David, Alien Ant Farm. We have young stars who humbly acknowledge inspiration by Michael; JLS, Leona Lewis, Pixie Lott, and Motown legends Smokey Robinson and Gladys Knight who in turn inspired Michael. Attending are Mrs Jackson and the children, siblings La Toya, Tito, Marlon and Jackie, and nephews Siggy, Taj, Taryll and TJ. Ron Weisner, Michael’s ex manager, is the creative producer, ensuring the presentation and performances are of Michael. Kevin Dorsey, who worked with Michael on tours Bad, Dangerous and History, is the Musical Director, working with band and singers to recreate Michael’s exact vision. We have band members of whom every one has played for Michael, either on tour or in the studio. Rehearsals have started in Los Angeles, and the vibe is one of purity of performance and responsibility to the musical legacy.

Michael Forever is the only multi-artist, family led, pure Michael tribute that will ever take place, so put aside your doubts, understand that artists and professionals of this calibre would not associate themselves with anything that was untrue to Michael, accept that we are dealing with your concerns where possible, and join us in honouring one of the world’s greatest ever musical performers while you still can.

We understand your concerns and we are addressing your worries, in the following ways:

The Estate
We have the greatest respect for the estate, the work it does continuing Michael’s legacy and the rights it owns. Until now we have been working in parallel with the estate, licencing available rights to present the show, but still working on the creative for it. The estate has not endorsed Michael Forever, and with the rights we have available, we have not sought or required such endorsement. Now that rehearsals have started, and we have a clearer idea of the shape of the event, we are preparing to reach out to the estate and seek commercial terms to licence certain rights owned by them we have identified as desirable.

The Trial
The timing is unfortunate. When we scheduled the concert in April the trial was due to start in June. It may move again yet. It may be over very quickly, or it may delay again. We believe, and the family believes, that a positive presentation of Michael’s musical genius can only be a good reminder of how great a loss was the loss of him.

Katherine Jackson
Michael’s mother chooses to honour her son. That’s it. Michael worshipped his mother and was very close to La Toya. His fans should respect that bond, and not post such unpleasantness that Taj feels he must publicly protect his grandmother on the web. No true fan of Michael would dishonour Mrs Jackson. Those that do are not deserving of anything other than our disappointment with their actions. The trust fund GLE set up in the children's name and administered by Katherine is our contribution to the family legacy. It was done openly, honourably and with our best intentions.

Other issues
Please remember that the British consumer has a huge amount of protection in English law, and the Event Terms and Conditions are written for insurers, and ours are less onerous than most others. Here's the clause from the Glastonbury festival: "2. The artist and performer line-up and all billed attractions may be subject to change at any time without notice". All purchasers also receive the standard protection offered by their credit card companies. You will see a great show, with exclusively Michael’s music performed by first class acts. The bill is still being added to, but the essence will always be Michael and his genius.

I hope these answers go some way towards explaining our position. We have a tribute worthy of Michael, presented by people passionate and dedicated to doing it right, to his family who loved him, performed by those who were inspired by him or inspired him, those who performed alongside him. We have further important announcements to make in the next few days that will prove beyond doubt that Michael Forever will be the purest most focused Michael tribute ever.

Thank you for reading
Andy Picheta
Producer GLE

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and this is Mj4Justice's answer



MJ4JUSTICE'S RESPONSE TO ANDY PICHETA
Dear Mr.Picheta,

You would be better served in taking a class in customer service. Because your letter to the members of the MJ Fan community was condescending and insulting.

The mere fact, you include in your letter a determination of who is and who is not a “TRUE FAN” is totally out of order. And quite frankly not your place, sir. The truth of the matter , any “true fan” as you put it, would have known NOT to invite Gene Simmons to any Michael Jackson Tribute event , in the first place.

It was the fan community that stood behind Michael through all his trials and tribulations. And you need to respect that . Michael did!

The fact, you hide behind Katherine Jackson is equally insulting. Stand up for yourself, Mr. Pricheta and do not use Michael’s mother as a means to attack and determine who is a “true fan”. Once again , not your place, not your right. You have done nothing to deserve that privilege.

Our issues are with you, the promoter of this event. Your timing , is once again , inappropriate. Tomorrow, begins the jury selection process in the Conrad Murray trial.

And that should be the concern of everyone who is concerned with Michael and his legacy.

Good day, Sir.

These people are the definition of STUPID!!!!

Here they are pretending to reach out to the fan base, but at the same time insulting us? PLEASE!:assassin:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

These people are the definition of STUPID!!!!

Here they are pretending to reach out to the fan base, but at the same time insulting us? PLEASE!:assassin:


That letter is an insult. They got to stop with the 'True Fan' gimmick. The guilt tripping is not working, especially when their scams are so apparent.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Thank you:)
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

If they wanna play the true fan card so can we.and say no true fan would support this bull****
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Elusive can you please make a check about sold cards, now after they made the price recession?
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Ill go look
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Still the same rows seats ! and golden circle gen admin available in batches of six
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Guys, I wonder if you realize that this is the 5th time we have stopped and began a debate about "you can't say that about Katherine"? Every time we end it after about 20 pages someone different will come back and start it again. I think the reason for this is because some people do not read from the beginning of a thread and comes in at different points, so we have rehashing of matter already covered.

This debate covers the same responses we saw before in this thread and in the MJAN thread. Can anyone tell me why it is back in this thread again????

Marie simply thinks that no one should say anything against Katherine's behavior because she is Michael's mother, loves him, loves his children, Michael loved her, he made a decision to have her as guardian of his children, and is elderly. Let it be. You cannot have a good debate, if the other person does not understand your point of view and keep saying the same thing over and over. The other side is also saying the same thing over and other. This is getting to be like the "Breaking News" drama.

Any news about sales today for the plagued tribute concert?

PS: just saw Elusive said the tickets are the same. Thanks.
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Well, I'm a fan of Michael Jackson!!!!!......not his parents and not his siblings!!!!


If Michael loved and respected his parents, then good for him. It doesn't mean we should do the same.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Let's see if the lack of sales will continue for the 2 more weeks in September. This is my main hope right now, so that we could have this thing cancelled.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Well, I'm a fan of Michael Jackson!!!!!......not his parents and not his siblings!!!!


If Michael loved and respected his parents, then good for him. It doesn't mean we should do the same.

Amen!!!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

You need not agree with Michael, but respect their decisions.
Michael had left his father because they thought he was no capable of taking care of business involving finances. Nothing personal.
And Joe would be supported.


Why are you shoving your opinions into the mind's of others? you think the children are supervised? I think not, you think mike would allow his 13 year old to entertain on a social network? I think not, cause of the way he raised his children and he would not want that negative attention aimed at them, or at least involved.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Just because MJ had conconditional love for his mother doesn't mean that to be a real fan of his we also have to feel the same! That doesn't even make sense! I love MJ but, I don't have to do what he do and say to a T to be considered a real fan. That is absurd! Plus Mj love for his mom more then the others is because she actually showed him real affection, unlike Joe. And he was obviously grateful! But, he too wasn't always trusting of even his own mother.

While I do not hate the Jacksons I do get disapointed in the things they say and often do, my right! And it's not like some are pulling crap out of their butts when they let out their fustrations with the family, there are legit reasons for it! So, I say some better act act like u know cause u do! This isn't follow the leader, because "Mj did it/said it", so we must follow!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Hello!

This has been discussed ad nauseum.

Please stay on topic for this thread.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Hello!

This has been discussed ad nauseum.

Please stay on topic for this thread.

Yes guys please. Let's make a pledge (not like the one GLE made to Katherine), that the next person who brings up that topic-- "don't say that about Katherine" here we will all ignore and not follow up with a response comment.

Has there been any information from the online estate team since the last letter about us not being "real fans?"
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Wow! :eek:

Reading the last pages of this threadI just > :wtf:
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I gave two warnings about staying on topic in this thread!

Therefore I have deleted the posts that appeared subsequent to second warning (and edited one).

We have discussed the topic of family and respect all over this board. We have two opposing viewpoints and nary the two shall meet. Move on!

This thread is about the tribute.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

"I am truly honored to be working with Global Live Events and the Jackson family members in participating in this epic event," Foxx, 43, told Us Weekly exclusively. "Michael was larger than life and I have admired him, honored him, joked about him but always loved and respected him... I hope I honor his legacy in a way that would make him laugh and cry."

Oh STFU Jamie Fox! U can't joke about somone the way u did and then say u respected them! -_-

How is respecting Mj saying he tored up his face and can't dance anymore because he is getting old! WTF? Stupid man!

This tribute is JACKED UP! Please stop the excuses for the people behind this HOT MESS!:mat:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Foxx can shove it where the sun don't shine. Can't stand fakes :angry:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

People like Foxx do not know what they are talking about. Fred, for example danced for years and no one said he was tooo old. Look at all the people over 40 who still can sing, especially opera singers. What is this thing about Michael being too old to sing and dance. How come he did not say that James Brown, Franklyn and Knight were too old to sing. The thing is he, like many others, chooses the ones to be ridiculed, based on public opinion.

I have little respect for people who like to kick others when they are down. What he essentially did was be nasty under the guise of comedy. And that argument that "oh he acts like that to others so I do not consider it a big deal," is a weak rationale. So what, because someone bullies everyone, it is acceptable? Because someone uses everyone as a punching ball, it is acceptable? It is the same as making racists remarks under the guise of comedy, like Sterne.

GLE continues to show a lack of respect for Michael and his fans. Sometimes I wonder if Hunt and Andy really are admires of Michael at all. Notice Latoya did not get people like Ortega to work on that concert. I guess, it is more important to try to get money from Ortega than use his talent and knowledge of Michael to put on a good show.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

People like Foxx do not know what they are talking about. Fred, for example danced for years and no one said he was tooo old. Look at all the people over 40 who still can sing, especially opera singers. What is this thing about Michael being too old to sing and dance. How come he did not say that James Brown, Franklyn and Knight were too old to sing. The thing is he, like many others, chooses the ones to be ridiculed, based on public opinion.

I have little respect for people who like to kick others when they are down. What he essentially did was be nasty under the guise of comedy. And that argument that "oh he acts like that to others so I do not consider it a big deal," is a weak rationale. So what, because someone bullies everyone, it is acceptable? Because someone uses everyone as a punching ball, it is acceptable? It is the same as making racists remarks under the guise of comedy, like Sterne.

GLE continues to show a lack of respect for Michael and his fans. Sometimes I wonder if Hunt and Andy really are admires of Michael at all. Notice Latoya did not get people like Ortega to work on that concert. I guess, it is more important to try to get money from Ortega than use his talent and knowledge of Michael to put on a good show.


I see where you are coming from, but I simply meant his jokes about Michael were tame compare to some of his other jokes about people. Some of the worst, like I said, being Whitney during the height of her drug problem. They are funny in the sense that everything he said is mostly true, but it's bad because it's kind of mean to talk about someone's else drug problem.

I also accepted that humor is a very subjective thing. As we talked about on another forum, I am a fan of dark comedy, but it isn't for everyone and some people like jokes that makes fun of other people's misery or quirks. It doesn't make a person good or bad for liking that humor, that just the way people are.

Also, if we're going to say making fun of anyone is bullying, then would you say Steve Harvey bullied Michael it an extent. He didn't make fun of his nose, but he did called his dress suites the nutcrack and Captain Crunch. I think he even include the line, 'what were you thinking', when it came to Michael's choice of words about sharing a bed with kids. Or Eddie Murphy would pretty much called Michael brother from another planet and made fun of his voice. Really, what make their jokes in so different since it is all name calling and teasing in the end.

I also think we shouldn't throw the word 'bullying' around lightly since I consider a bully someone who not only mocks, but stalks a person with insults. Like Leno and other late night personalities who can't seemed to stop with the Michael Jackson's jokes even when they stopped being funny. I also don't think fans should be defining who is or isn't fan solely based on if they made fun of Michael or not. Since that isn't really different that what GL and some in the family are trying to do.

On a final note, I hardly see what Gene said and what Foxx said as equally the same. Foxx took pop shots at Michael. Some fans hate that, which is understandable. Gene, on the other hand, called Michael a pedo which is a criminal offense and causes untold damaged to the person and family you're accusing. Not to mention the children that suffer if those accusations are true. Gene even went as far as to make up a story about suppose abused and got on people days after Michael's died for celebrating a child molester. Then, he has the nerves to go to a tribute concert to someone he considers a monster. The two can hardly be compared.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Buy 1 gt 1 free :lol:

I'm still laughing about that. It's like they are selling food.

Pathetic.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs5f_-UtyGY

This is a video of Jamie talking about going to the Victory tour. (WARNING the language is very bad. Please don't click if you are sensitive to this.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tszUtzoinLM (This is a video from the Jamie Foxx show and is hilarious.)

Also, we have people like Spike Lee who talked about MJ bleaching his skin, and saying this was all forgiven after he died by blacks. Katie Couric was saying that MJ bleached his skin and tried to look less black as he got older. Spike says, "Yeah, but that is all forgotten now." And, I remember him saying something about his appearance before he died. Now he does the party in the park and people forgive him for what he said in the past.

The fact of the matter is, many people commented on MJ's appearance and expressed disdain over it. Many people. For them to speak about his appearance did not diminish his talent or his impact in their eyes. In a way, spike was correct. All the ills that many felt for MJ was forgotten. It didn't mean that they just became fans after he died. But it did mean that their focus shifted and they realized that all of that kind of talk was very superficial.

To compare someone like Jamie who made a joke (tasteless as it was) but who outside of that has always bigged up MJ and his talent to someone like Jean who calls him a predator and a molestor is just sick. Also to say that someone like Jamie who obviously at the end of the day was greatly impacted by MJ, cannot pay tribute to him, I think is overly judgemental.

But hey, this is my opinion only.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^

I think it's perfectly fair to be judgmental of people who ridiculed/criticized Michael when he was here and now. I also think that it's perfectly ok to not forgive someone who contributed, even in a small way, to the negative perception of Michael.

Let's not underestimate the effect all the negative 'jokes'/comments had on Michael and the way he was/is perceived. When Michael was here, especially during the trial, there was this whole mob mentality of trying to make ridicule and just bring him down in every way. There were comedians and even some artists apart of it, because it was the 'in thing' to do. It all added up. I find that some really underestimate that factor.

As Petra said, Jamie mocked Michael under the guise of comedy..People say some horrible/racists things using that guise, it doesn't make it ok. IMO
 
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