MJ Forever Tribute/ MJJC Statement / Estate statement / Fan letter pg51/ GLE put on administration

Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

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That's it, I will never ever support anything even remotely connected to that toxic family!!!


Who cares anymore what Katherine thinks!!......she's not my mother and I have no reason to respect her. And what is so special about her?.....she let her own children get beat by her husband and for that we are supposed reward her or something????


Send this letter to the media........they'll have a field day!!!!


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The letter you quoted isn't the real letter from GLE. It was meant to be my own semi-humorous, over-the-top interpretation of the original letter that was posted by Ivy. I am just sick and tired of these people using Katherine and Michael's love for Katherine to guilt the fans into buying tickets. Furthermore, the whole "true fan" thing really ticked me off. Sorry to have caused confusion :better:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

@StephluvsMJ I thought your interpetation was spot on. :clapping:
 
[h=1]Michael Jackson tribute tickets still on sale[/h]







TICKETS to the Michael Jackson Concert are still available, despite just one month to go until the show.
Michael Forever – The Tribute Concert, which features Christina Aguilera and JLS, takes place on October 8 at the Millennium Stadium.
Despite a huge build-up to tickets going on sale last month, the show has not yet sold out.
However, organisers say ticket sales have been steady and they expect them to increase as more acts are added to the bill.

The latest acts to be announced were Gladys Knight and US singer Ne-Yo.

Read More http://www.walesonline.co.uk/showbi...s-still-on-sale-91466-29384580/#ixzz1XMVVnsoq











 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

The letter you quoted isn't the real letter from GLE. It was meant to be my own semi-humorous, over-the-top interpretation of the original letter that was posted by Ivy. I am just sick and tired of these people using Katherine and Michael's love for Katherine to guilt the fans into buying tickets. Furthermore, the whole "true fan" thing really ticked me off. Sorry to have caused confusion :better:
Anyway, your letter summarize perfectly their :censored:. Thank you very much for your letter/comment. :thankyou:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

apparently they are refunding those who bought tickets for full price

Nikki-Lee Atherton I have no idea what is going on here have copied and pasted their response twice now ! apparently they will get in contact with all customers who have already booked and we will be refunded difference between the old and new price.3 minutes ago
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

I cant belive the nerve of them saying that us fans "arent real fans at all" seriously WTF!!??

Its sad in a way how it mainly us fans who do care bout mj and his family dont seem to give a :censored:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

If this guy knew anything about the fans, he would know that the name Weisner, brings horror images to fans minds!!! Does he know what this guy did to Michael? Again they know nothing about Michael and his fans. They cannot be in business long, because they are trying to insult the population they want to attract. Good job GLE!!!

It's not dieter wiesner. It's Ron Weisner who had managed Jacksons and Micheal between 1978 and 1983.
 
ivy;3477637 said:
brace yourselves. Global Live Events sent this email to MJ4Justice

GLE's Letter to members of the MJ Fan Community


Thank you for the opportunity to send a message to Michael’s fans though your club. I know the fans have a number of concerns, most of which were highlighted in Mr Weitzman’s open letter to Chris Hunt. Others have come to the fore since, and I will discuss these also. I have been talking to a number of fan club presidents, and although the emphasis has been different, the core issues are clear.

Equally, our endeavours are clear also: We are presenting the Jackson family tribute to Michael. We have artists of international stature, or with meaningful links to Michael’s music, or both. Together with Christina Aguilera, Ne-Yo and Cee Lo Green, we have performers who have sympathetically and successfully presented Michael’s material – Craig David, Alien Ant Farm. We have young stars who humbly acknowledge inspiration by Michael; JLS, Leona Lewis, Pixie Lott, and Motown legends Smokey Robinson and Gladys Knight who in turn inspired Michael. Attending are Mrs Jackson and the children, siblings La Toya, Tito, Marlon and Jackie, and nephews Siggy, Taj, Taryll and TJ. Ron Weisner, Michael’s ex manager, is the creative producer, ensuring the presentation and performances are of Michael. Kevin Dorsey, who worked with Michael on tours Bad, Dangerous and History, is the Musical Director, working with band and singers to recreate Michael’s exact vision. We have band members of whom every one has played for Michael, either on tour or in the studio. Rehearsals have started in Los Angeles, and the vibe is one of purity of performance and responsibility to the musical legacy.

Michael Forever is the only multi-artist, family led, pure Michael tribute that will ever take place, so put aside your doubts, understand that artists and professionals of this calibre would not associate themselves with anything that was untrue to Michael, accept that we are dealing with your concerns where possible, and join us in honouring one of the world’s greatest ever musical performers while you still can.

We understand your concerns and we are addressing your worries, in the following ways:

The Estate
We have the greatest respect for the estate, the work it does continuing Michael’s legacy and the rights it owns. Until now we have been working in parallel with the estate, licencing available rights to present the show, but still working on the creative for it. The estate has not endorsed Michael Forever, and with the rights we have available, we have not sought or required such endorsement. Now that rehearsals have started, and we have a clearer idea of the shape of the event, we are preparing to reach out to the estate and seek commercial terms to licence certain rights owned by them we have identified as desirable.

The Trial
The timing is unfortunate. When we scheduled the concert in April the trial was due to start in June. It may move again yet. It may be over very quickly, or it may delay again. We believe, and the family believes, that a positive presentation of Michael’s musical genius can only be a good reminder of how great a loss was the loss of him.

Katherine Jackson
Michael’s mother chooses to honour her son. That’s it. Michael worshipped his mother and was very close to La Toya. His fans should respect that bond, and not post such unpleasantness that Taj feels he must publicly protect his grandmother on the web. No true fan of Michael would dishonour Mrs Jackson. Those that do are not deserving of anything other than our disappointment with their actions. The trust fund GLE set up in the children's name and administered by Katherine is our contribution to the family legacy. It was done openly, honourably and with our best intentions.

Other issues
Please remember that the British consumer has a huge amount of protection in English law, and the Event Terms and Conditions are written for insurers, and ours are less onerous than most others. Here's the clause from the Glastonbury festival: "2. The artist and performer line-up and all billed attractions may be subject to change at any time without notice". All purchasers also receive the standard protection offered by their credit card companies. You will see a great show, with exclusively Michael’s music performed by first class acts. The bill is still being added to, but the essence will always be Michael and his genius.

I hope these answers go some way towards explaining our position. We have a tribute worthy of Michael, presented by people passionate and dedicated to doing it right, to his family who loved him, performed by those who were inspired by him or inspired him, those who performed alongside him. We have further important announcements to make in the next few days that will prove beyond doubt that Michael Forever will be the purest most focused Michael tribute ever.

Thank you for reading
Andy Picheta
Producer GLE

----------------------

and this is Mj4Justice's answer



MJ4JUSTICE'S RESPONSE TO ANDY PICHETA
Dear Mr.Picheta,

You would be better served in taking a class in customer service. Because your letter to the members of the MJ Fan community was condescending and insulting.

The mere fact, you include in your letter a determination of who is and who is not a “TRUE FAN” is totally out of order. And quite frankly not your place, sir. The truth of the matter , any “true fan” as you put it, would have known NOT to invite Gene Simmons to any Michael Jackson Tribute event , in the first place.

It was the fan community that stood behind Michael through all his trials and tribulations. And you need to respect that . Michael did!

The fact, you hide behind Katherine Jackson is equally insulting. Stand up for yourself, Mr. Pricheta and do not use Michael’s mother as a means to attack and determine who is a “true fan”. Once again , not your place, not your right. You have done nothing to deserve that privilege.

Our issues are with you, the promoter of this event. Your timing , is once again , inappropriate. Tomorrow, begins the jury selection process in the Conrad Murray trial.

And that should be the concern of everyone who is concerned with Michael and his legacy.

Good day, Sir.

What a effing joke. To hell with everyone involved with this bs
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

with this letter GLE proved once again that they don't give an ish about Michael and his fans. They don't understand (and aren't even trying to understand) the relationship Michael had with his fans and how fans feel about Michael and to what extend they are ready to go to protect him. Michael and the fans is much more than a musician-fans relationship, it goes far beyond that, it is a special bond based on love for a PERSON more than a musician (and whatever Schmuley was trying to put into Michael's head that we love him only for his music, that's WRONG! we love him for what kind of PERSON he was MORE than the music (although the music is obviously also the best lol)). And it seems to me they can't grasp this bond and think they bring whatever ish marked with a "Jackson" name upon us and we'll swallow it gladly and ask for more. Guess what GLE. You couldn't be more wrong.

well said...:clapping:
 
ivy;3477637 said:
brace yourselves. Global Live Events sent this email to MJ4Justice

GLE's Letter to members of the MJ Fan Community


Thank you for the opportunity to send a message to Michael’s fans though your club. I know the fans have a number of concerns, most of which were highlighted in Mr Weitzman’s open letter to Chris Hunt. Others have come to the fore since, and I will discuss these also. I have been talking to a number of fan club presidents, and although the emphasis has been different, the core issues are clear.

Equally, our endeavours are clear also: We are presenting the Jackson family tribute to Michael. We have artists of international stature, or with meaningful links to Michael’s music, or both. Together with Christina Aguilera, Ne-Yo and Cee Lo Green, we have performers who have sympathetically and successfully presented Michael’s material – Craig David, Alien Ant Farm. We have young stars who humbly acknowledge inspiration by Michael; JLS, Leona Lewis, Pixie Lott, and Motown legends Smokey Robinson and Gladys Knight who in turn inspired Michael. Attending are Mrs Jackson and the children, siblings La Toya, Tito, Marlon and Jackie, and nephews Siggy, Taj, Taryll and TJ. Ron Weisner, Michael’s ex manager, is the creative producer, ensuring the presentation and performances are of Michael. Kevin Dorsey, who worked with Michael on tours Bad, Dangerous and History, is the Musical Director, working with band and singers to recreate Michael’s exact vision. We have band members of whom every one has played for Michael, either on tour or in the studio. Rehearsals have started in Los Angeles, and the vibe is one of purity of performance and responsibility to the musical legacy.

Michael Forever is the only multi-artist, family led, pure Michael tribute that will ever take place, so put aside your doubts, understand that artists and professionals of this calibre would not associate themselves with anything that was untrue to Michael, accept that we are dealing with your concerns where possible, and join us in honouring one of the world’s greatest ever musical performers while you still can.

We understand your concerns and we are addressing your worries, in the following ways:

The Estate
We have the greatest respect for the estate, the work it does continuing Michael’s legacy and the rights it owns. Until now we have been working in parallel with the estate, licencing available rights to present the show, but still working on the creative for it. The estate has not endorsed Michael Forever, and with the rights we have available, we have not sought or required such endorsement. Now that rehearsals have started, and we have a clearer idea of the shape of the event, we are preparing to reach out to the estate and seek commercial terms to licence certain rights owned by them we have identified as desirable.

The Trial
The timing is unfortunate. When we scheduled the concert in April the trial was due to start in June. It may move again yet. It may be over very quickly, or it may delay again. We believe, and the family believes, that a positive presentation of Michael’s musical genius can only be a good reminder of how great a loss was the loss of him.

Katherine Jackson
Michael’s mother chooses to honour her son. That’s it. Michael worshipped his mother and was very close to La Toya. His fans should respect that bond, and not post such unpleasantness that Taj feels he must publicly protect his grandmother on the web. No true fan of Michael would dishonour Mrs Jackson. Those that do are not deserving of anything other than our disappointment with their actions. The trust fund GLE set up in the children's name and administered by Katherine is our contribution to the family legacy. It was done openly, honourably and with our best intentions.

Other issues
Please remember that the British consumer has a huge amount of protection in English law, and the Event Terms and Conditions are written for insurers, and ours are less onerous than most others. Here's the clause from the Glastonbury festival: "2. The artist and performer line-up and all billed attractions may be subject to change at any time without notice". All purchasers also receive the standard protection offered by their credit card companies. You will see a great show, with exclusively Michael’s music performed by first class acts. The bill is still being added to, but the essence will always be Michael and his genius.

I hope these answers go some way towards explaining our position. We have a tribute worthy of Michael, presented by people passionate and dedicated to doing it right, to his family who loved him, performed by those who were inspired by him or inspired him, those who performed alongside him. We have further important announcements to make in the next few days that will prove beyond doubt that Michael Forever will be the purest most focused Michael tribute ever.

Thank you for reading
Andy Picheta
Producer GLE

----------------------

and this is Mj4Justice's answer



MJ4JUSTICE'S RESPONSE TO ANDY PICHETA
Dear Mr.Picheta,

You would be better served in taking a class in customer service. Because your letter to the members of the MJ Fan community was condescending and insulting.

The mere fact, you include in your letter a determination of who is and who is not a “TRUE FAN” is totally out of order. And quite frankly not your place, sir. The truth of the matter , any “true fan” as you put it, would have known NOT to invite Gene Simmons to any Michael Jackson Tribute event , in the first place.

It was the fan community that stood behind Michael through all his trials and tribulations. And you need to respect that . Michael did!

The fact, you hide behind Katherine Jackson is equally insulting. Stand up for yourself, Mr. Pricheta and do not use Michael’s mother as a means to attack and determine who is a “true fan”. Once again , not your place, not your right. You have done nothing to deserve that privilege.

Our issues are with you, the promoter of this event. Your timing , is once again , inappropriate. Tomorrow, begins the jury selection process in the Conrad Murray trial.

And that should be the concern of everyone who is concerned with Michael and his legacy.

Good day, Sir.


this letter really does make my blood boil. GLE can go f*ck themselves they have NO IDEA what a 'TRUE FAN" of Michael would act like. Its not like they ARE one. They continue to insult the fans..who does this guy think he is? Bet this guy wouldn't step out on the street and say any of this shit to our faces. IT is obvious that he is a coward. If he was ANY TYPE of business man he would know that you do not insult your target audience. HAHA this whole thing is one big huge piece of shit tribute....Oh yeah,,,,I hope Ms Jackson goes and takes the money that she gets paid off of her dead son and buys herself a clue.
 
What a mess! And to have MJ's name associated to it is heartbreaking.


MICHAEL TRIBUTE FACEBOOK

William Burke
Are you going to give back the difference from what people paid before they went down being as i paid £55 for restricted view now you are selling them for £45, for 2 tickets thats £20 extra i have paid on top of the charitable donation this is not fair you are punishing the people who wanted to go from day one its disgusting

50 minutes ago via mobile · Like · Comment.

..Andrew Edwards
GLE, do the people who registered and bought tickets prior to public sale entitled to Buy 1 get 1 free tickets as Ticketmaster are doing now. or if we have bought say 2 £55 tickets, can we upgrade to 2 £97 pitch tickets in lieu of the 2 extra £55 tickets



ETA: I'm not finding 2 for 1 ticketmaster sales. So don't know how true above is on that kind of giveaway. But most tickets sold on main tribute site have definitely been reduced.
 
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Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Serves the suckers right.

LOL at buy one get one free.that must be a first lol
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Serves the suckers right.

LOL at buy one get one free.that must be a first lol

elusive Global Live just confirmed all of your ticket selling updates. LOL!

Things must be very bad, if they have to go the 2-for-1 route. And it appears that the folks who already purchased tickets ain't too happy about this new development. Global Live = A Truck Full Of Garbage!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

i dont see buy one get one free on ticketmaster. and the original prices are still being advertised. and they seem to have sold just as badly on there as top prices sections in M8 are only at something like row 4 where on the forever m site the other top sections are only at row two and approx row 7.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

i dont see buy one get one free on ticketmaster. and the original prices are still being advertised.

After I posted the facebook quotes, I searched to find that too, and didn't find. I'm going to edit my original post on this. Thanks.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

It is amusing how GLE keeps hyping this as the one and only Jackson family led tribute. They fail to realise that many fans are breathing a sigh of relief at that thought.

Michael left most of that family behind creatively in 1979, with the release of OTW. As I have said before they do not have the requisite skills and talents to do justice to Michael's creativity and legacy. They just don't.

And GLE has clearly been lied to - Katherine needs their financial help and LaToya and Michael were bussom buddies. As if!!!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Serves the suckers right.

LOL at buy one get one free.that must be a first lol

thank you elusive...Icouldn't of said it better. This whole thing equals one big HUGE FAIL
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

It is amusing how GLE keeps hyping this as the one and only Jackson family led tribute. They fail to realise that many fans are breathing a sigh of relief at that thought.

yeah thank F*&^* for that lol
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

buy 1 get 1 free

http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/promo/4424px?camefrom=CFC_UK_BUYAT_etixs

mts3m8.jpg
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

how embarrassing. poor Michael.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

^^^^Thanks, Ivy...for the verification.

Again, what a mess!
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

You have to know that GLE do not know what they were doing when they thought they could maneuvre around having to work the Estate when planning a tribute to Michael!

They started from a premise of "we might not need them" and have now ended up with "oh shoot we do, if we want this thing to come off properly".
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

thanks ivy. i guess they are doing it cause the tickets on TM are still at the full price where as on the forever site the tickets have been reduced by half
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

This seems to be circling the drain rapidly, now (to the point where it now would be kinder to FLUSH?). The "two-for-one" tickets can't help but p.o. people who bought tickets at higher prices! Wow, that's bad.

This didn't HAVE TO be this way! In addition to high ticket prices, uncertainty about charity donations, and all the rest of that mess, there was ONE key mistake made -- and that was underestimating Michael Jackson fans. First, the KNOWLEDGE fans have is vast, and fans are well aware of the nastiness that was the Gene Simmons comment. The concert promoters could pretty much KISS off, after that one. A second, and HUGE mistake, was in thinking that involving Michael's children in this would somehow be an ATTRACTION for fans (i.e. the trust-fund, and the kids appearance at the concert). In fact, it's exactly the opposite. The vast majority of fans don't WANT to see those children . . . . anywhere . . . and are well-aware that Michael shielded them from the public eye. Promoters simply did not do their homework. ANYONE on this board could have advised them, but they never asked.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

r those 'buy 1 get 1 free' rumors confirmed? If so HAHA suckers. What are they thinking? Do they think that by pissing off fans further (if that's even possible) by arrogant letters is gonna help them sell tickets? I wouldn't support this kind of bs even if it was the last thing Katherine was to do in her lifetime. I don't give a damn about Katherine and the rest of her family, I only care about Michael and this ''tribute'' is not about Michael, it was never meant to be about Michael


Edit: I see they are.. serves those suckers right
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

thanks ivy. i guess they are doing it cause the tickets on TM are still at the full price where as on the forever site the tickets have been reduced by half

if you look carefully it says that buy 1 get 1 free promotion will start friday. It's not live yet .


r those 'buy 1 get 1 free' rumors confirmed? If so HAHA suckers.

just posted the link and the screenshot (if they try to delete / change it) so yep it's confirmed :p
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Buy 1 get 1 free? Lord how embarrassing, but they had it coming.

They could have called off this mess when the fan community first expressed their disappointment and opposition to the project. This is what happens to desperate greedy money grubbers.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Wouldn't surprise me to see certain family members as Taj go on Twitter and complain about the lack of ''support' toward the family again.
 
Re: Michael Forever Tribute/ MJJC Official Statement / Discussion / Estate statement / Fan letter @p

Good grief 2 for 1 tickets, GL are desperate!

Got back from a holiday in hopeful expectation that this concert would be cancelled amid vicious recriminations and lawsuits between gl and the jacksons. Been reading all the conf calls and letters (great questions and follow ups, mj fans know their stuff). The last letter to fanclubs was a classic. You can just tell GL are at their wit's end with mj fans when they have to resort to saying that MJ loved his mother and was close to latoya (wtf??).

Anyway with the ticket prices being slashed and newspaper advertising having to be taken out, this must all mess with their budget. If even after their shockingly insulting treatment of the estate (completely ignoring them and then throwing shade on how mj set up his will and trust and how it excludes his mother and delays ppb's inheritance, what on earth has it to do with them??) they are still having to 'prepare to reach out' to ask for their cooperation re copyrights then it must be to do with tv broadcasting rights or a dvd film (a disaster movie or maybe a public info film on how not to put on a concert) which the estate def hold permission for. Their business model must be dependent on these extra revenue streams so if permission can be denied that would be it for GL hopefully.

So when GL do their reaching out to the estate, I hope the estate tells them to shove it.
 
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