MJ Estate Statement Re: Justin Bieber Slave To The Rhythm Recording. [Merged]

Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Michael was all about numbers, being number 1. He also often worked with whoever was "current" - let's not forget even some of his choices could be a bit dubious - Kriss Kross, Eddie Murphy, NSync...

Kris Kross were only in his video, he never recorded with them. He also did not invite Eddie Murphy on his own album but accepted an invitation to appear on Eddie's to return Eddie's favor in the RTT video. He never recorded with N'Sync either.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Really!!!!? I thought it was a vince outtake - it sounds so fresh and modern for it to be a 1989 song. was it re-worked on for vince or is that the version we've got the same as the '89 version?

Yeah it would of gone nicley on the Dangerous album.
The version we have is a Tricky Stewart mix from 2010...

The original one from 89 will obviously sound way different and I'm sure it sounds better because it had Michael's blessing.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

This desire to see MJ get a no 1 hit at all costs among some fans is so puzzling to me. He's not here to enjoy the success. Even if he could see what is happening, how could he be proud of it anyway? A butchered version of a song he worked hard on going to no 1 because the fans of an untalented teen star are buying everything that gets put out nowadays anyway?

I honestly do not get it.

Quoted for emphasis.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

So because of opinions on this man it is ok to disregard and slander his work? Whenever someone does this to MJ people have a huge problem with it but it's ok to do it to others?
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

So because of opinions on this man it is ok to disregard and slander his work? Whenever someone does this to MJ people have a huge problem with it but it's ok to do it to others?

Was michael an arsehole, no. Is justin Bieber an arshole, yes. I don't want him anywhere near michael's music, maybe once he grows up a bit, in the maturity sense, and as an artist then he would be worthy. But he has not, and he is just trying to get attention. You seem to be forgetting justin replaced most of michael's vocals with his own, as if to make it seem as if the song was his own, that is not cool and is totally disrespectful ...
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Sorry if I am starting to sound like a broken record here, but I just cannot stop pondering about this "getting MJ to #1" idea, as it just seems so foreign to me. It made me look up the transcript of the Getmusic.com interview Michael did in 2001. In it, he compared the process of writing and releasing his songs to having and raising children.



Many musicians see their songs this way. You see them go from nothing but an idea, through an intense process of creating, resculpting, recording and mixing, all the way to a full-fledged, finished track. We know how dear his songs were to Michael, who sometimes held amazing tracks back for several years just because he felt they had not fully come to fruition yet.

Writing a song is not, or should not be, just a way to get a #1 record. Music is art. Creating it is a deeply personal process. This is why I feel Michael's soul and spirit in an untouched demo, and at best only glimpses of it in a song that was 'finished' or remixed by another producer.

To me, it just feels awful that this idea that started in Michael's mind and which he laboured on throughout the years, has now made its way out into the world as a 'duet' with an untalented, overhyped teenager who Michael never even met, and with completely redone music that most likely has nothing to do with what Michael had in mind. I could not care less whether it gets to #1, quite frankly...

I remember some people here brought up in earlier discussions that remix of the Elvis song Little Less Conversation that was a hit a couple of years ago. Some fans, who want to see Michael high on the charts at any price, felt that was an example to follow. But I never understood this way of thinking. It was a hit, alright, but the style, the song did not even resemble of the type of music that Elvis really represented and that he really did in his life. So even if his name is put on it it's not really an Elvis' song, sorry. The same with these type of remixes of MJ's music. And if such a song becomes Nr 1 or a song becomes Nr 1 just because Bieber's 13-year-old fans by everything and anything with his name on it, why should that make me happy and proud as an MJ fan? Sorry, but I'm not that desperate.

I guess, there is a conflict of interest here that will be very hard, if not impossible to resolve. Sony and the Estate will certainly want to make money. Bad 25 was mainly applaused by hard core fans but it wasn't a commercial success. Let's be honest, you won't achieve commercial success with demos. But I personally am interested in the songs how Michael left them, to see what his intentions were with a song - so the demos - and not someone else's interpretation (remix) of his songs. Especially if that interpretation is so far away from the original intention as it is in the case of STTR. It may be Michael's voice on it, but it's not his music that way.

Sometimes I wish there wouldn't be a pressure to make money on the Estate and Sony but unfortunately that pressure is there and we have to accept that reality. I guess the only solution can be if every time they release a remix, they should also release the original demo as well. But even the remixes have to be done by quality people and with extra care and a HUGE amount of respect for Michael's ART. And definitely not to earse Michael's vocals from them to replace with someone else's and Michael should not be associated with artists under a certain level.
 
norbat;3889923 said:
You guys are seriously exaggerating this. Its just a song guys. MJ is unfortunately dead, and we / you must be prepared that it will come more remixes etc. Please stop this bullshit.
Some fans of BIGGIE liked maybe not that Michael used the vocals on Unbreakable. Some Beatles fans surely didnt like that Michael sang Come Together. Stop this nonsense, it's just a song - ignore the songs you dont like and enjoy the next album.
Why do you bring up Biggie’s vocals on Unbreakable and Michael singing Come Together when they are not similar to this situation at all?

Bieber did not sing a cover of a well-known MJ song. He took an unreleased, relatively unknown song, and butchered it by replacing Michael’s vocals with his own. I don’t know how or why Bieber got his hands on the song, but even if he got it legally, the end result of this fiasco is that he practically stole this song from Michael. STTR should have been properly released as a Michael solo song, his vocals were complete enough to be released as a solo, and the song is strong enough to have potential for success. But now that people know it as that Bieber duet it’s nothing more than a joke because nobody above the age of 15 takes Bieber seriously. It’s a complete waste of potential.

It’s also degrading to Michael as an artist to be associated with someone like Justin Bieber. When Michael did duets, it was with a talented and respected artist. He didn’t cling to whoever was the teen pop sensation of the moment in a desperate attempt to get better sales. He was extremely talented and creative, he had artistic vision and he worked hard with his music to bring that vision into reality. A fading teen pop sensation mangling his song is an insult to Michael’s vision.

And what do you mean “it’s just a song”? Michael is dead. There is only a limited number of unreleased songs. Out of those songs only some are so complete that they could be released as solo songs. And out of those songs only some are strong enough to be released, most are probably unreleased because Michael didn’t think they were good enough. So Bieber didn’t ruin one song out of an unlimited supply of songs. He ruined one of the probably quite few songs that could have been successful solo releases for Michael.

If you like Justin Bieber and this song, that’s fine. But let’s not pretend that Bieber did nothing more than sing a cover and people are angry over nothing.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Was michael an arsehole, no. Is justin Bieber an arshole, yes. I don't want him anywhere near michael's music, maybe once he grows up a bit, in the maturity sense, and as an artist then he would be worthy. But he has not, and he is just trying to get attention. You seem to be forgetting justin replaced most of michael's vocals with his own, as if to make it seem as if the song was his own, that is not cool and is totally disrespectful ...

That's what you do when you are trying to create a duet. Justin Bieber is far from an "arsehole" in actual fact. He's honestly still learning and makes mistakes but he didn't spit on fans, he spat on a bush below. He has donated an awful lot to charity, done over 200 Make-A-Wishes and has done more than any pop star ever. The guy works hard, he does respect the people before him and mentions MJ a lot when working. It's like a homage to him.

Oh and Chris Brown released a song recently with Aaliyah and used un-heard vocals, not for a duet but for a brand new song that Aaliyah didn't sing for. Where's the crap about that? There isn't any because no one cares. People still respect her, and just ignore it because of all she left behind. That's what it's about, not some leaked "un-finished" song. In 25+ years, Billie Jean, Bad, Thriller will all still be hits, Michael Jackson will still be the greatest entertainer of all time, and no one will remember this "duet". The world isn't ending, which is surprising given the way some are acting.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

The version we have is a Tricky Stewart mix from 2010...

The original one from 89 will obviously sound way different and I'm sure it sounds better because it had Michael's blessing.

Considering it's a Babyface/LA Reid song, considering it was intended for Dangerous my guess is it's rather an R&B/New Jack Swing song originally. I'd love to hear that version.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

if this gets the green light and becomes official i shall pirate every future MJ project made, if they don't give a sh!t they don't get my money simple as that.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

That's what you do when you are trying to create a duet. Justin Bieber is far from an "arsehole" in actual fact. He's honestly still learning and makes mistakes but he didn't spit on fans, he spat on a bush below. He has donated an awful lot to charity, done over 200 Make-A-Wishes and has done more than any pop star ever. The guy works hard, he does respect the people before him and mentions MJ a lot when working. It's like a homage to him.

Oh and Chris Brown released a song recently with Aaliyah and used un-heard vocals, not for a duet but for a brand new song that Aaliyah didn't sing for. Where's the crap about that? There isn't any because no one cares. People still respect her, and just ignore it because of all she left behind. That's what it's about, not some leaked "un-finished" song. In 25+ years, Billie Jean, Bad, Thriller will all still be hits, Michael Jackson will still be the greatest entertainer of all time, and no one will remember this "duet". The world isn't ending, which is surprising given the way some are acting.

He's a dickbag, in my opinion, you're free to yours too. :) He didn't hit anyone with that spit, oh that makes it ok then
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

I remember some people here brought up in earlier discussions that remix of the Elvis song Little Less Conversation that was a hit a couple of years ago. Some fans, who want to see Michael high on the charts at any price, felt that was an example to follow. But I never understood this way of thinking. It was a hit, alright, but the style, the song did not even resemble of the type of music that Elvis really represented and that he really did in his life. So even if his name is put on it it's not really an Elvis' song, sorry. The same with these type of remixes of MJ's music. And if such a song becomes Nr 1 or a song becomes Nr 1 just because Bieber's 13-year-old fans by everything and anything with his name on it, why should that make me happy and proud as an MJ fan? Sorry, but I'm not that desperate.

agreed.
And i have to wonder why some here seem to think that the rest of us should just shut up, sit back and see the world greatest entertainer be reduced to a "thing" that has to be sampled/helped/made to a duet in order to stay relevant? MJ is dead, and therefore i as a fan have to accept that he will be reduced to a side-act to the latest teen sensation? I have to silently sit and see his classics be butchered and made into whatever the current sound is? 5 years from now billie jean will be a techno song, and i have to be cool about that?
Im NOT a bieber fan (and yes, i do know his music. My 9 year old girl has him on heavy rotation 24/7) BUT my disliking of this song is not JUST because it's Bieber. It's mainly because i fear that this will be the beginning to the end. We already lost Michael :(, and now they're trying to take him away once again by turning him into a "whatever fits the current sound" singer. Not cool...
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

He's a dickbag, in my opinion, you're free to yours too. :) He didn't hit anyone with that spit, oh that makes it ok then
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Just googled MJ and the first news article is all over this - although they are praising it they are saying Michael recorded the song in 2009 at his neverland ranch just before his death. I MEAN COME ON.....are they going to say that on every new unreleased song now!!!!! LOL.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Just googled MJ and the first news article is all over this - although they are praising it they are saying Michael recorded the song in 2009 at his neverland ranch just before his death. I MEAN COME ON.....are they going to say that on every new unreleased song now!!!!! LOL.

I saw Bieber fans say Bieber wrote the song...
I saw other Bieber fans say it's a sure Grammy for him. LOL.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

I haven't read anything since friday, has there been any news on this aside from the estate saying that they didn't authorize?
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Please tell me where in that reply I said it was ok to spit over balconies. oh wait.

You felt the need to say he didn't spit on fans, which gave me me the impression that you were trying to justify him spitting....i'm sorry for the misunderstanding....
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

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Shows what reality is... So justin can dream, but no chance...


I'm still listening Billie Jean. Any fan of him listens BABY everyday... If they, interesting :) Good song to listen everyday..

bbaaabbby baabbbyyy alllrrriiighhhhhhhht...


And 30 years later nobody will remember him, and his fans will not listen his songs.


I wanted to add that I was just outside in a restuarant and they were playing Off The Wall!!! Now this song was done even earlier than Billie Jean
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

I haven't read anything since friday, has there been any news on this aside from the estate saying that they didn't authorize?

Nope, not a word. Which worries me...
 
Re: MJ Estate Statement Re: Justin Bieber Slave To The Rhythm Recording.

I think prince just was tired of his 475th hand shake with bieber. If you saw the video, Bieber had asked like thousand times hand shakes, even blanket had the 'what TF do you want' facial expression in one picture. I don't think they meant rude.
 
Re: MJ Estate Statement Re: Justin Bieber Slave To The Rhythm Recording.

Hmmm, Justin wants to show to people; look how I'm close to Jackson familiy

and Prince shows; no he is not...
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Its one thing to have newer Artists/DJs remix old hits for re-releases for the younger audience. Like Afrojack, Pitbull, Will Iam & Akon etc.

But this is unreleased work which the world needs to receive in the original form first, as was it was meant to be.

For example if some young director approached Spielberg with the idea to re-create the Jurassic park, the movie. I guess it would not be as big an issue coz the world wud know the original and they wud also know the new one is a new interpertation of another person. But if some one takes a movie that Speilberg is still working on or has wrapped up but not yet released and makes changes to the movie and releases it or leaks then its clearly stealing.

So, MJ using BIggie's rap is not the same as this coz that rap was already released in the original form before MJ sampled it. Another example wud be Rihanna's "plz dont stop the music" and/or Alien ant Farm's "Smooth Criminal" and MJ "Come together" which are acceptable. But for instance if aaron carter was to come across work in progress or to be released music by say Usher or Justin Timberlake, but he, Aaron Carter makes changes to another artists work, attach his name to it and leaks it to the world then it surely is a crime.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Nope, not a word. Which worries me...

More than likely the estate is behind this. It's just that they didn't anticipate this leak, and they way underestimated the amount of fury (and justified, I might add) that this would create.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

an example of art being preserved. take jimi hendrix's new unreleased album that has recently been released. their are absolutely no sign of any new artists appearing on his song's because of one reason, his estate respect his work enough to let his fans and the world's audience hear his song's the way he left them. no one has previously heard of these, which bring's up the similarity of slave to the rhythm.. it's only known within the hardcore fanbase of michael because of the 2010 leak when it failed to make the controversial 'Michael' Album. No Certified legend of music should be exposed to any new artist who thinks they can just do what they want, to get a number one. I sincerely hope we hear Michael's 1989 demo as soon as possible.
 
I’ve been thinking about the question of how far you should go to achieve chart success, and whether we should just accept that Michael posthumous work won’t be all that successful commercially. It’s not an easy question, because on one hand Michael was a tremendously talented artist who had a clear artistic vision, and that should be respected. On the other hand he was a pop star, and for a pop star charts and commercial success do matter.

But I don’t think you have to choose either commercial success or artistic integrity, you can also find some sort of a balance between them. I think Michael managed find a great balance between those. He stayed true to who he was as an artist, but he also had astronomical success. I hope that the Estate/Sony finds the right balance in his posthumous releases as well.

Personally, I’m not necessarily against all remixes or duets with other artists. If done right, I think they can be respectful to Michael as an artist but also maybe attract new listeners to Michael’s music. I just feel very strongly that everything about this Bieber fiasco was done wrong.

A duet could be okay if Michael’s vocals are unfinished, and somebody else needs to sing the rest so that the song could even be released. But that’s not the case here since they replaced Michael’s existing vocals with Bieber’s. A remix would be okay imo if it’s a remix of an already well-known song, or at least if an original version is included on the album so that everybody knows what Michael’s original vision is and what’s somebody else’s work. But for the general public the first and probably only version of STTR they hear is this Bieber version. Now it will always be known as that Bieber duet. It’s just disrespectful to Michael as an artist.

And even if the goal is to get commercial success at any means possible, I don’t think Bieber is the right choice. It’s true that he has a lot of fans who will buy anything with his name on it. But pretty much everybody else would prefer to stay well away from any Bieber songs. The song might sell a lot right after it’s released, and then drop quickly after that. Choosing a more respected artist could mean more radio airplay and longevity in sales.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

I've seen the same "arguments" for defending this piece of crap of a remix 1000 times over again yet the very most important thing is just ignored 1000 times over again.

Michael Jackson is dead. As the Estate and Sony and even producers made clear, there aren't alot of songs left that are either ready for release and/or finished. Now then, Slave To The Rhythm was one of the few songs left that was fully "finished" in terms of vocals and, even though the 2010 remix is probably very different, sounds good enough to be released in the version we currently have even if it needs some final tweaks.

Where in your logic do you think it's a good idea to feature a guest artist on this track to replace Michael Jackson's already great vocals which, as I mention again before it gets ignored AGAIN, there aren't alot of anymore since he is not here anymore to bless us with new music. So now that that's out of the way, I'll go on (again) about the choice of guest "artist" to be featured in this song/a future song in the form of a duet. No way in hell would Bieber be a good choice. Just STOP defending him because he, even though he might have done SOME good things, is NOT a good artist (only for little girls), doesn't have a good voice (seriously people), lacks talent (also very serious) that real talented artists have and doesn't respect the success and fame he has nor does he respect his idol if he thinks this would be a good idea. Defending Bieber about this crap of a remix is just about the most stupid thing you can do.

Justin Bieber is a product of the mainstream crap music of this generation. Just as much as dubstep gets popular as a music genre, it's still a big pile of crap noise which doesn't come even close to represent what music really stands for. Bieber is a good example of that. And another few examples are Nicki Minaj, Lil Wayne and, dare I go so far, Soulja Boy. They are all essentially the same type of artist who get to cash in on stupid fans who buy this crap due to the bar, the same MJ once set for music, being lowered in the music business. Talent is extremely hard to find these days and just be glad there are still real artists out there who still try and sell a crap amount of copies due to them not being 'popular'.

Back in the old days when I and most of us weren't even here, we had real artists like Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Elvis Presley etc. I could go on about that. Just take a moment of your time and compare the music from that generation to this generation. Every idiot with an ego big enough takes a mic and tries to sing these days. Of course, this wouldn't be able without a good friend named 'autotune' and other computer effecs. Pfff, even I could do the same. Start a band, grab a mic and autotune the hell out of myself. Just to cash in. Wow, that must feel great to do. Luckily I am a honest guy and know I don't have the talent it takes to do something like that. I respect music just like MJ did. I learned from the best there was and ever will be and I can't say the same for Bieber.

If he's really a 'grown up man' then he should step up and show some responsibility and respect.

All in all, if you really look at this remix and honestly reflect on yourself you should see the light. A great and classic Michael Jackson song has been ruined for the future in terms of surprise and possibly sales/charting. Yet, as disgusting this is, I (and many others) don't really care about the charting etc, as it's better to keep MJ's artistic integrity 'alive' instead of quickly cashing in with a horrible remix.
 
Re: MJ Estate Statement Re: Justin Bieber Slave To The Rhythm Recording.

I was there. I don't remember the 475 hand shakes! It's still rude
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

I've seen the same "arguments" for defending this piece of crap of a remix 1000 times over again yet the very most important thing is just ignored 1000 times over again.

Michael Jackson is dead. As the Estate and Sony and even producers made clear, there aren't alot of songs left that are either ready for release and/or finished. Now then, Slave To The Rhythm was one of the few songs left that was fully "finished" in terms of vocals and, even though the 2010 remix is probably very different, sounds good enough to be released in the version we currently have even if it needs some final tweaks.

Where in your logic do you think it's a good idea to feature a guest artist on this track to replace Michael Jackson's already great vocals which, as I mention again before it gets ignored AGAIN, there aren't alot of anymore since he is not here anymore to bless us with new music. So now that that's out of the way, I'll go on (again) about the choice of guest "artist" to be featured in this song/a future song in the form of a duet. No way in hell would Bieber be a good choice. Just STOP defending him because he, even though he might have done SOME good things, is NOT a good artist (only for little girls), doesn't have a good voice (seriously people), lacks talent (also very serious) that real talented artists have and doesn't respect the success and fame he has nor does he respect his idol if he thinks this would be a good idea. Defending Bieber about this crap of a remix is just about the most stupid thing you can do.
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Bolded the opinions. Doesn't make it fact. Whether you like it or not.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

Do you know this kid, yes Bruno Mars;





Looks he really loves him. But he doesnt want to be Michael Jackson, He is not trying to be Michael Jackson. He is a fan of MJ like us. One day if he sing a Michael Jackson song on his album, I don't get angry. Because he always shows his love, his respect. His way is different, not like Justin.
 
Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down

I've seen the same "arguments" for defending this piece of crap of a remix 1000 times over again yet the very most important thing is just ignored 1000 times over again.

Michael Jackson is dead. As the Estate and Sony and even producers made clear, there aren't alot of songs left that are either ready for release and/or finished. Now then, Slave To The Rhythm was one of the few songs left that was fully "finished" in terms of vocals and, even though the 2010 remix is probably very different, sounds good enough to be released in the version we currently have even if it needs some final tweaks.

Where in your logic do you think it's a good idea to feature a guest artist on this track to replace Michael Jackson's already great vocals which, as I mention again before it gets ignored AGAIN, there aren't alot of anymore since he is not here anymore to bless us with new music. So now that that's out of the way, I'll go on (again) about the choice of guest "artist" to be featured in this song/a future song in the form of a duet. No way in hell would Bieber be a good choice. Just STOP defending him because he, even though he might have done SOME good things, is NOT a good artist (only for little girls), doesn't have a good voice (seriously people), lacks talent (also very serious) that real talented artists have and doesn't respect the success and fame he has nor does he respect his idol if he thinks this would be a good idea. Defending Bieber about this crap of a remix is just about the most stupid thing you can do.

Justin Bieber is a product of the mainstream crap music of this generation. Just as much as dubstep gets popular as a music genre, it's still a big pile of crap noise which doesn't come even close to represent what music really stands for. Bieber is a good example of that. And another few examples are Nicki Minaj, Lil Wayne and, dare I go so far, Soulja Boy. They are all essentially the same type of artist who get to cash in on stupid fans who buy this crap due to the bar, the same MJ once set for music, being lowered in the music business. Talent is extremely hard to find these days and just be glad there are still real artists out there who still try and sell a crap amount of copies due to them not being 'popular'.

Back in the old days when I and most of us weren't even here, we had real artists like Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Elvis Presley etc. I could go on about that. Just take a moment of your time and compare the music from that generation to this generation. Every idiot with an ego big enough takes a mic and tries to sing these days. Of course, this wouldn't be able without a good friend named 'autotune' and other computer effecs. Pfff, even I could do the same. Start a band, grab a mic and autotune the hell out of myself. Just to cash in. Wow, that must feel great to do. Luckily I am a honest guy and know I don't have the talent it takes to do something like that. I respect music just like MJ did. I learned from the best there was and ever will be and I can't say the same for Bieber.

If he's really a 'grown up man' then he should step up and show some responsibility and respect.

All in all, if you really look at this remix and honestly reflect on yourself you should see the light. A great and classic Michael Jackson song has been ruined for the future in terms of surprise and possibly sales/charting. Yet, as disgusting this is, I (and many others) don't really care about the charting etc, as it's better to keep MJ's artistic integrity 'alive' instead of quickly cashing in with a horrible remix.

Especially melodyne, that is worse because you can manually improve every single note someone sings, so they can make anyone sound better than they are. If it is used in small amounts you can't even tell it has been altered. And yes, I agree with everything you said about bieber.
 
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