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Michael - The Official New Album - Out December 14th - General Discussion Thread
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So now they claim it is MJ but it got recorded via voicemail?
I still believe it's only in a small part Michael and this voicemail stuff is just a lame attempt from Sony to save face. But let's accept for a moment what Perez Hilton's source claimed is true (ie. that it's MJ only recorded via voicemail). Would Michael want something he "recorded" on a voicemail be on an album? It's crazy to think he would! He was a perfectionist. He would never want something that is so unfinished, so rough, not recorded with professional equipment but with a voicemail machine be on an album! To make him look like a bad singer with material like this is a disgrace and pissing on his legacy! So either way - whether it's an impersonator or "just" a badly recorded voicemail message, it's wrong to put it on an album and sell it as if it's something MJ would be proud of! Sony is pissing on his legacy, no matter what!
And I have to add: I cannot believe fans who say "I don't care if it's only partly MJ, I want to hear it anyway". So you don't care if the person you are listening to is indeed MJ or not and how much it's him? Wow! You may then go out and buy just about ANYTHING they want to sell you in the name of MJ! This is exactly the mentality Sony is counting on. Problem is there's a danger they will seriously harm Michael's name and legacy with unquality material they release in his name, just because they are able to shove down just about anything on some people's throat if they claim it's him. Do we really want that?
I still believe it's only in a small part Michael and this voicemail stuff is just a lame attempt from Sony to save face. But let's accept for a moment what Perez Hilton's source claimed is true (ie. that it's MJ only recorded via voicemail). Would Michael want something he "recorded" on a voicemail be on an album? It's crazy to think he would! He was a perfectionist. He would never want something that is so unfinished, so rough, not recorded with professional equipment but with a voicemail machine be on an album! To make him look like a bad singer with material like this is a disgrace and pissing on his legacy! So either way - whether it's an impersonator or "just" a badly recorded voicemail message, it's wrong to put it on an album and sell it as if it's something MJ would be proud of! Sony is pissing on his legacy, no matter what!
And I have to add: I cannot believe fans who say "I don't care if it's only partly MJ, I want to hear it anyway". So you don't care if the person you are listening to is indeed MJ or not and how much it's him? Wow! You may then go out and buy just about ANYTHING they want to sell you in the name of MJ! This is exactly the mentality Sony is counting on. Problem is there's a danger they will seriously harm Michael's name and legacy with unquality material they release in his name, just because they are able to shove down just about anything on some people's throat if they claim it's him. Do we really want that?
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aprilshack
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Anything happen overnight? Have sony released a statement yet or anyone else?
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First I've heard of this -- link?
HIStory
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Here: http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/localnews/ci_16569199?source=rss
"Meanwhile, a source close to the recording sessions told Perezhilton.com that the vocals are Michael's, but probably sound weird because the King of Pop, worried that his songs would be leaked before the record came out, recorded some vocals by phone directly onto his producers' voice mail."
Yeah, right.....
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Just...
Exactly...
Stop pressuring me
Just stop pressuring me
Stop pressuring me
Make me wanna scream
Stop pressuring me
Just stop pressuring me
Stop pressuring me
Make me wanna scream
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Forget about whether or not this is Michael Jackson.
Maybe, just maybe, if they had to call in forensic experts and the like, AND you have to use samples of past MJ songs to fill in gaps, maybe they should rethink whether the songs are good enough in the first place.
Michael Jackson music is an American institution. No.. a global institution, just like The Beatles, Motown, etc. One of Mike's trademarks was his instantly-identifiable music and voice.
Yes, he's dead. I don't expect Off The Wall or Thriller. But there's something shady when tabloids, who have ripped Mike's work for years, are now the ones hyping his new work while the opposite is true of the fans.
Maybe, just maybe, if they had to call in forensic experts and the like, AND you have to use samples of past MJ songs to fill in gaps, maybe they should rethink whether the songs are good enough in the first place.
Michael Jackson music is an American institution. No.. a global institution, just like The Beatles, Motown, etc. One of Mike's trademarks was his instantly-identifiable music and voice.
Yes, he's dead. I don't expect Off The Wall or Thriller. But there's something shady when tabloids, who have ripped Mike's work for years, are now the ones hyping his new work while the opposite is true of the fans.
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Just what I thought!
I see the likes of Roger Friedman in full praise of the Cascio songs, when he made derogatory remarks about MJ's past works..... It's the same for other media as well. I observed that too! It makes me wonder what the HELL is going on here?
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There are definitely some people employed by Sony et al that are posting on this board, you know who you are and you are getting paid to play along and then put doubt in peoples minds but you will never be able to manipulate those fans who have been around forever and instantly know MJ having dissected his voice for years.
btw my little kids know MJs voice and can pick it out in any record and they did not pick him out here (conclusive proof!)
Also if it was phone recording then it would be at 8khz audio, which is similar quality to the repeat line 'really wanna get me' in the 2nd verse of 'This time around'. So why they could not have used it in a similar manner I don't know.
btw my little kids know MJs voice and can pick it out in any record and they did not pick him out here (conclusive proof!)
Also if it was phone recording then it would be at 8khz audio, which is similar quality to the repeat line 'really wanna get me' in the 2nd verse of 'This time around'. So why they could not have used it in a similar manner I don't know.
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Is it me or does BN sound abit different on michaeljackson.com sounds bit more like him then the one i first heard...................or am i getting brainwashed??? dont answer
....ummm...just for shits, I went back and listened, and I actually agree with you...this is MESSED...it actually does sound like him...I'm going crazy, I think...
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angel2;3063385 said:
Angel2<BR><BR>
Thank you for posting the letter you found on MichaelJackson.com. Please be so kind as to post my response to them there. <BR><BR>
I understand that you are sick of hearing people claiming that it is not Michael singing on the audio of "Breaking News." Many of his fans are not only frustrated but we are saddened and deeply hurt that Sony music intentionally hyped a questionable track by having us on the edge of our seats waiting for a 30 second audio clip that included no lyrics. What followed in the full release left many confused as to whether or not it was Michael and since the audio was altered and compressed it is impossible to truly tell.<BR><BR>
Please tell me, when you say the ones we know that sound like Michael actually get "cleaned up" then placed on the albums - what do you mean? Are you possibly implying that Michael's voice needed editing to sound as wonderful as it did? I and many of his fans know that Michael's voice did not need cleaning up. God blessed him with a magnificent voice that did not need to be cleaned. I've heard him sing beside me and you can even listen to clips of him in depositions where he sings and his voice sounds as pristine as it does on the finalized disks. <BR><BR>
When you say that Michael is made up of songs that were never finished and inquire what were they to do I think this. With about 600 songs were there not any well enough, and good enough to release where we could agree is actually Michael singing? When you say what were they to do, I am kind of still lost in my own pondering of what the heck did they do. Michael's voice is amazing and you could take a tape of him singing on an answering machine and get clearer vocals then the patch job they did. If they tried to fill his voice in with impersonators then they should have prepared us and not planned what I personally consider an assault against his legacy and his fan base.<BR><BR>
When you ask what were they to do my reply is almost anything other than what they did.<BR><BR>
When you say that the family say it isn't really his voice on the tracks and state “but it is him” then refer us to Google and Sony as a way to verify I have t say that I can find anything on Google bit of trust I mustered in Sony was lost upon listening to the full strem of “Breaking News.”<BR><BR>
You say that Katherine said she loves the sound of the album and what they did with it but was she referring to the questionable tracks or the others that have been compiled ? Michael’s has family has made it clear that they do not believe it is his voice on the Cascio tracks. <BR><BR>
You also wrote “ I would also like to say that I really think everyone should just be thankful that we get a record in the first place.” This one gets me because I think Michael’s fans would be thankful with a Michael record not “a record.” <BR><BR>
You say that “fueling these rumors is horribly wrong” but I think what would be horribly wrong is for us “die hard fans” to sit by idle and let Sony pump out vocals so altered we can’t tell who is singing and throw his name on there.<BR><BR>
What are we doing? Some nothing. Some like you are trying to silence those who are screaming fowl play. Some are ready to stand up to Sony and demand that Michael’s voice is treated respectfully and that recordings of the upcoming CD be reviewed and approved by selected fans who have no agenda other than to hear him in is music.<BR><BR>
When Michael spoke out about Tommy Matola please know that it takes more than one man to proceed in the tactics that were taking place and during that time Michael had already owned stake in Sony music. Sony won a bid and apparently beat out Paramount in giving us This Is It because they wanted a piece of the pie be sure they did not do it for us they did it for the dollars in our pockets.<BR><BR>
Be sure that God will make provisions for the Jackson family. We don’t have to worry about that. What we do need to be concerned of is Sony butchering his music by altering and compressing his voice, if it’s him or getting an impersonator to sing vocals on top of his without even half an effort of making fans aware.<BR><BR>
You want people to stop what we didn’t start, we can’t stop while Sony is still streaming a questionable track and we can’t stop and wait to see what will be on the new CD, we have to move now, scream now, fight now or risk Michael’s new CD being him singing background for some other artist or having his vocals lost in production.<BR><BR>
How dare you question Michael’s fans love for him no matter what any of our stance is concerning “Breaking News,” claiming us to have “turned our backs on him!” It is wrong, uncalled for, calculating, hurtful and judgmental.<BR><BR>
What did he do to us??? Are you serious? The fans of Michael’s that are screaming, writing, typing, crying, fighting etc. are doing so because Sony set us up for a fall! They deliberately played a 30 second clip with no lyrics days before streaming the whole audio, knowing that Michael’s own family did not think it was him on the track!!!<BR><BR>
We all love Michael and you can say hi to Jesus for yourself- He listens when we pray.<BR><BR>
　
　http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sonyultimatum/
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Michael Jackson: There Is Concrete Proof He Sang the New Songs
By: Roger Friedman in Music // November 10th, 2010
The fans are worried that Michael Jackson‘s new songs–recorded in 2007 at the New Jersey home studio of family friends–aren’t his.
The “Cascio tracks” have caused an uproar. On the planned “Michael” album set for December 14th release, there will be three: “Breaking News,” “Monster,” and “Keep Your Head Up.” (I’ve heard the latter song, and it’s quite wonderful.)
I am told that in addition to forensic tests on the songs to make sure the vocals are Michael’s, Sony sources say Eddie Cascio has provided notes written on lyric sheets in Michael’s unmistakable handwriting. (Of course, they can always call in Helena Bonham Carter’s aunt–see yesterday’s column.)
Sources tell me there’s plenty of proof left behind by Michael that he provided the vocals on 12 tracks. Michael wasn’t just sitting around that whole time in the studio. He worked on the songs, and there’s evidence of it in the notations.
Some of the confusion on the currently streaming “Breaking News” may exist because Michael provided “guide” vocals on the tracks. He didn’t record back up vocals or anything else that would embellish a regular recording. Producers have added back up singing and instrumentals to flesh the records out.
Michael also never finished or polished up the tracks. What’s been done to them is similar to what was applied to the song “This Is It.” Jackson had left just a one track vocal with a piano playing in the background. John McClain added background vocals from Michael’s brothers and other musical elements to give the track life.
Also included on the new album: three songs produced by a hot new producer-writer named Nephew. One of them, which I’ve heard, is called “Best of Joy.” It’s a lovely ballad. And ironic–that Michael’s nephews are causing so much dissent over the album because their songs weren’t used, but three by someone actually named Nephew were. Weird.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/10/michael-jackson-there-is-concrete-proof-he-sang-the-new-songs
Consensus is That Michael Jackson's Breaking News is Authentic
by Paul Cashmere of Undercover
One of the big questions over the last week has been whether it is really Michael Jackson singing on the new track Breaking News. The controversy started when the the promo for the track came out that only contained a short scream at the end that, quite frankly, seemed a bit high for the singer. Now that the full track is available, the general consensus is that it truly is Jackson singing on the track.
Jackson's label Epic Records, producer Teddy Riley and manager Frank Dileo have all confirmed that the vocal is really Michael.
About the new track, Teddy Riley says "I have been working with Michael since 1991. We worked on Dangerous, 
the HIStory album, The Addams Family Values project and then Invincible. Needless to say, we spent months and months in the studio together. The
 times I spent with Michael were very important, dear, special, and learning experiences. I studied Michael and everything about him from day one. I know Michael's voice in every range; I've explored Michael's vocal ability from baritone and tenor to alto and soprano. As the years went by, I've witnessed his tones changing, sometimes up or down. My feeling on the authenticity of his vocals on this album (another masterpiece) are that they were all done by Michael in different places and in different climates. The vocals sounded very polished, very on key and processed. I have no doubts that these are Michael's vocals. I stand for myself with no discrimination."
According to Frank Dileo, "As Michael Jackson's long time manager and friend, I have first hand Knowledge in determining whether or not it is Michael's voice we 
are hearing on the Cascio tracks. I have no doubt that the voice we are 
hearing on those songs belong to Michael Jackson. I spoke to Michael by 
telephone at the Cascio's home studio several times while he was 
recording with them, and he was excited and enthused by the music and 
the experience. While listening to the tracks, especially the ones not 
heard by the general public, you can hear that he was having a great 
time."
Finally Epic Records confirmed, "We have complete confidence in the results of our extensive research as well as the accounts of those who were in the studio with Michael that the vocals on the new album are his own."
Jackson recorded Breaking News in 2007 in New Jersey. It will be featured on an album of previous unreleased song titled Michael due in December.
You can hear Breaking News now streaming at www.michaeljackson.com.
http://mog.com/blog_post/content/723/2510564
By: Roger Friedman in Music // November 10th, 2010
The fans are worried that Michael Jackson‘s new songs–recorded in 2007 at the New Jersey home studio of family friends–aren’t his.
The “Cascio tracks” have caused an uproar. On the planned “Michael” album set for December 14th release, there will be three: “Breaking News,” “Monster,” and “Keep Your Head Up.” (I’ve heard the latter song, and it’s quite wonderful.)
I am told that in addition to forensic tests on the songs to make sure the vocals are Michael’s, Sony sources say Eddie Cascio has provided notes written on lyric sheets in Michael’s unmistakable handwriting. (Of course, they can always call in Helena Bonham Carter’s aunt–see yesterday’s column.)
Sources tell me there’s plenty of proof left behind by Michael that he provided the vocals on 12 tracks. Michael wasn’t just sitting around that whole time in the studio. He worked on the songs, and there’s evidence of it in the notations.
Some of the confusion on the currently streaming “Breaking News” may exist because Michael provided “guide” vocals on the tracks. He didn’t record back up vocals or anything else that would embellish a regular recording. Producers have added back up singing and instrumentals to flesh the records out.
Michael also never finished or polished up the tracks. What’s been done to them is similar to what was applied to the song “This Is It.” Jackson had left just a one track vocal with a piano playing in the background. John McClain added background vocals from Michael’s brothers and other musical elements to give the track life.
Also included on the new album: three songs produced by a hot new producer-writer named Nephew. One of them, which I’ve heard, is called “Best of Joy.” It’s a lovely ballad. And ironic–that Michael’s nephews are causing so much dissent over the album because their songs weren’t used, but three by someone actually named Nephew were. Weird.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/10/michael-jackson-there-is-concrete-proof-he-sang-the-new-songs
Consensus is That Michael Jackson's Breaking News is Authentic
by Paul Cashmere of Undercover
One of the big questions over the last week has been whether it is really Michael Jackson singing on the new track Breaking News. The controversy started when the the promo for the track came out that only contained a short scream at the end that, quite frankly, seemed a bit high for the singer. Now that the full track is available, the general consensus is that it truly is Jackson singing on the track.
Jackson's label Epic Records, producer Teddy Riley and manager Frank Dileo have all confirmed that the vocal is really Michael.
About the new track, Teddy Riley says "I have been working with Michael since 1991. We worked on Dangerous, 
the HIStory album, The Addams Family Values project and then Invincible. Needless to say, we spent months and months in the studio together. The
 times I spent with Michael were very important, dear, special, and learning experiences. I studied Michael and everything about him from day one. I know Michael's voice in every range; I've explored Michael's vocal ability from baritone and tenor to alto and soprano. As the years went by, I've witnessed his tones changing, sometimes up or down. My feeling on the authenticity of his vocals on this album (another masterpiece) are that they were all done by Michael in different places and in different climates. The vocals sounded very polished, very on key and processed. I have no doubts that these are Michael's vocals. I stand for myself with no discrimination."
According to Frank Dileo, "As Michael Jackson's long time manager and friend, I have first hand Knowledge in determining whether or not it is Michael's voice we 
are hearing on the Cascio tracks. I have no doubt that the voice we are 
hearing on those songs belong to Michael Jackson. I spoke to Michael by 
telephone at the Cascio's home studio several times while he was 
recording with them, and he was excited and enthused by the music and 
the experience. While listening to the tracks, especially the ones not 
heard by the general public, you can hear that he was having a great 
time."
Finally Epic Records confirmed, "We have complete confidence in the results of our extensive research as well as the accounts of those who were in the studio with Michael that the vocals on the new album are his own."
Jackson recorded Breaking News in 2007 in New Jersey. It will be featured on an album of previous unreleased song titled Michael due in December.
You can hear Breaking News now streaming at www.michaeljackson.com.
http://mog.com/blog_post/content/723/2510564
Ok, you guys...go back and listen to the song again on mj.com...It strangely sounds like him...I don't know what to think...Maybe I'm going crazy from lack of sleep over this song....
are you guys serious? it's the same fake song with the same fake vocals :O
It sounds the same to me.Ok, you guys...go back and listen to the song again on mj.com...It strangely sounds like him...
Mentioned before, but there is this quality transition in the song the first time you load it.
Bye.
i know...it's crazy....but strangely I hear something different...maybe I need some sleep :bugeyed
yeah...maybe....
Sounds the same to me. Do you have an mp3 of the original to compare it to? Maybe tomorrow after some sleep! It's so hard to tell after hundreds of listens!
Haven't see this here yet. Who knows about its validity? Just sharing anyway.
Source: http://kingofpop.info/news/2010/11/08/shedding-some-light-on-breaking-news/
To protect those who explained everything to me, I will be using fictitious names to protect them. I have known them for many many years. Charlie as we’ll call him works for Sony and has an extensive background in audio engineering, producing, and music management. Once I heard the track and all the drama that has followed he was the first person I reached out to for some answers. As we know, the family only sends cryptic notes and with everyone posting on twitter from Teddy Riley, to Frank Cascio on facebook, what are we, the fans, left to believe? If anything there are far more questions now than answers.
“The fact is, at this point no one knows what tracks are what.”Charlie tells me. “The tracks that are listed for the upcoming album everyone besides those closely working on the project, are confused as to what is what. Some may have been recorded in 2007 or 2008 but damn it’s a mess.” Sitting in an office today w/ a high level Sony executive (again I will leave out who exactly it was), the man is laughing within the first 3 lines of “Breaking News” Charlie sits back and says, “wow, really?” “Of course hardly any of this is Michael” he tells Charlie, “but the good news is from I have heard so far, it shouldn’t get any worse than this.” “Damn” Charlie says. “The bridge & background vocals are him in parts but the Cascio guys chose to do it this way.” He continues.”It’s good publicity right now.”
Charlie explains to me, we listened to it numerous times in the studio, and you could tell from the breathing patterns to the push behind the vocals, its all different, nothing like Michael. Problem is, is that when recording vocals there is no type of pitch control when you go high. They can’t pitch up in other words to fix whoever they had sing it. Michael did not care for this track, he never recorded lead vocals only bits and pieces of a demo. When you record a demo its not stacked. They stacked the finish, Michael would be furious if he were alive, he never did stacking this way, it’s not his production style. When he stacked a track he did it all with vocals, as you can hear on the Dangerous album. It’s not like the old days when they recorded in analogue. When you first record a track you’ll record a demo, then once its chosen you go back and record everything twice pretty much, one is higher and one is lower, basically for the sound in the left ear and the right. Demos are recorded in mono, not as rich and thick like a finished track, what it sounds like is that they placed Michael’s voice dead center, and had whoever they brought in, possibly this guy Jason, to record the stacking and placed his on the right and left. If you listen hard Michael’s there but its far too saturated. It’s over done, its simply not his style. However, you have to remember that whatever you’re going to hear from now on will never be a finished polished product the way Michael would have wanted because of the simple fact that none of it was fully finished. So they are left to decide what to do with them because they don’t want to put demos out. What Michael wanted to do and what the world wants are two different things. I think they wanted to duplicate and make the kind of money they did with This Is It last year, so they release the album just before the holidays and hope that they go platinum with this LP. I honestly think though that this single is going to hurt album sales. They are trying too hard to get something catchy, Invincible style but the fact is that Invincible was short lived. They’re attempting to go overly poppy with this LP and its not going to work.
The thing is, Cascio’s music ideas don’t work, he’s a very intelligent guy, don’t get me wrong. The family is in the restaurant business but Cascio was pretty much in the right place and the right time for Michael to take an interest in him becoming his personal manager. Now Mr. Cascio wants to cash in and finish the record. He was shopping for post production and engineering volunteers to finish the tracks (hence Teddy Riley confirming today on Twitter that he was not compensated for his post production on the track). I wouldn’t be surprised if his dad is in charge of the whole thing. Those vocals that Michael recorded were done in the Cascio’s dad’s studio. Michael’s there but Cascio wanted to push himself, he always pretends he’s got the contacts, but never went anywhere in music. Sure you may have contacts but it doesn’t mean they want to work with you. Towards the last 3 years of his life Michael was trying to produce more for other people. He was trying to get the Black Eyed Peas to let him produce for them. Do you remember those rumours about that rapper guy (cardanal?!?), what I believe is that they could have had this song written for a rapper, but what makes no sense to me is why have a knock off singer, a rapper would have made a little more sense since Michael never recorded the versus.
Jason on the other hand, well he was doing his regular singing when he started doing his knock off singing like MJ. Ever since then he’s blown up even though the music is trash, but I just wonder now if they paid him out. If not, he’ll probably get publishing credits and royalties from the album and if so, everyone and anyone involved in publishing will find out. That’s pretty funny and he’ll be sitting there collecting checks. At the end of the day, I hope they deliver the rest of it in an upright way because honestly what they have now, Michael would be furious! “Breaking News” is horrible.
Source: An Insider
Source: http://kingofpop.info/news/2010/11/08/shedding-some-light-on-breaking-news/
To protect those who explained everything to me, I will be using fictitious names to protect them. I have known them for many many years. Charlie as we’ll call him works for Sony and has an extensive background in audio engineering, producing, and music management. Once I heard the track and all the drama that has followed he was the first person I reached out to for some answers. As we know, the family only sends cryptic notes and with everyone posting on twitter from Teddy Riley, to Frank Cascio on facebook, what are we, the fans, left to believe? If anything there are far more questions now than answers.
“The fact is, at this point no one knows what tracks are what.”Charlie tells me. “The tracks that are listed for the upcoming album everyone besides those closely working on the project, are confused as to what is what. Some may have been recorded in 2007 or 2008 but damn it’s a mess.” Sitting in an office today w/ a high level Sony executive (again I will leave out who exactly it was), the man is laughing within the first 3 lines of “Breaking News” Charlie sits back and says, “wow, really?” “Of course hardly any of this is Michael” he tells Charlie, “but the good news is from I have heard so far, it shouldn’t get any worse than this.” “Damn” Charlie says. “The bridge & background vocals are him in parts but the Cascio guys chose to do it this way.” He continues.”It’s good publicity right now.”
Charlie explains to me, we listened to it numerous times in the studio, and you could tell from the breathing patterns to the push behind the vocals, its all different, nothing like Michael. Problem is, is that when recording vocals there is no type of pitch control when you go high. They can’t pitch up in other words to fix whoever they had sing it. Michael did not care for this track, he never recorded lead vocals only bits and pieces of a demo. When you record a demo its not stacked. They stacked the finish, Michael would be furious if he were alive, he never did stacking this way, it’s not his production style. When he stacked a track he did it all with vocals, as you can hear on the Dangerous album. It’s not like the old days when they recorded in analogue. When you first record a track you’ll record a demo, then once its chosen you go back and record everything twice pretty much, one is higher and one is lower, basically for the sound in the left ear and the right. Demos are recorded in mono, not as rich and thick like a finished track, what it sounds like is that they placed Michael’s voice dead center, and had whoever they brought in, possibly this guy Jason, to record the stacking and placed his on the right and left. If you listen hard Michael’s there but its far too saturated. It’s over done, its simply not his style. However, you have to remember that whatever you’re going to hear from now on will never be a finished polished product the way Michael would have wanted because of the simple fact that none of it was fully finished. So they are left to decide what to do with them because they don’t want to put demos out. What Michael wanted to do and what the world wants are two different things. I think they wanted to duplicate and make the kind of money they did with This Is It last year, so they release the album just before the holidays and hope that they go platinum with this LP. I honestly think though that this single is going to hurt album sales. They are trying too hard to get something catchy, Invincible style but the fact is that Invincible was short lived. They’re attempting to go overly poppy with this LP and its not going to work.
The thing is, Cascio’s music ideas don’t work, he’s a very intelligent guy, don’t get me wrong. The family is in the restaurant business but Cascio was pretty much in the right place and the right time for Michael to take an interest in him becoming his personal manager. Now Mr. Cascio wants to cash in and finish the record. He was shopping for post production and engineering volunteers to finish the tracks (hence Teddy Riley confirming today on Twitter that he was not compensated for his post production on the track). I wouldn’t be surprised if his dad is in charge of the whole thing. Those vocals that Michael recorded were done in the Cascio’s dad’s studio. Michael’s there but Cascio wanted to push himself, he always pretends he’s got the contacts, but never went anywhere in music. Sure you may have contacts but it doesn’t mean they want to work with you. Towards the last 3 years of his life Michael was trying to produce more for other people. He was trying to get the Black Eyed Peas to let him produce for them. Do you remember those rumours about that rapper guy (cardanal?!?), what I believe is that they could have had this song written for a rapper, but what makes no sense to me is why have a knock off singer, a rapper would have made a little more sense since Michael never recorded the versus.
Jason on the other hand, well he was doing his regular singing when he started doing his knock off singing like MJ. Ever since then he’s blown up even though the music is trash, but I just wonder now if they paid him out. If not, he’ll probably get publishing credits and royalties from the album and if so, everyone and anyone involved in publishing will find out. That’s pretty funny and he’ll be sitting there collecting checks. At the end of the day, I hope they deliver the rest of it in an upright way because honestly what they have now, Michael would be furious! “Breaking News” is horrible.
Source: An Insider
surely we all need need some rest from this :ermm:
...no, i don't have one...I never did want one...lol...yeah, i'll listen in the morning, and guaranteed it'll be JM again :bugeyed
...i must be srsly delirious at this point...it's taking over my mind....
*sigh* i just want this nightmare to be over
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Ok, you guys...go back and listen to the song again on mj.com...It strangely sounds like him...
I'll be be honest I was ready to go listen to the track, come back and say 'don't be silly it's exactly the same'....... BUT. It's not! The lead vocals are a lot less compressed, in fact they sound a lot more like a 'bad' record of MJ!!! If you listen carefully you can now hear a 'hiss' and slight 'crackle' to the recording which you could put down to a poor recording or one that has been saved a quite a low bitrate.
Seriously listen to it with decent headphones or speakers.
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MsMo;3063567 said:Michael Jackson: There Is Concrete Proof He Sang the New Songs
By: Roger Friedman in Music // November 10th, 2010
The fans are worried that Michael Jackson‘s new songs–recorded in 2007 at the New Jersey home studio of family friends–aren’t his.
The “Cascio tracks” have caused an uproar. On the planned “Michael” album set for December 14th release, there will be three: “Breaking News,” “Monster,” and “Keep Your Head Up.” (I’ve heard the latter song, and it’s quite wonderful.)
I am told that in addition to forensic tests on the songs to make sure the vocals are Michael’s, Sony sources say Eddie Cascio has provided notes written on lyric sheets in Michael’s unmistakable handwriting. (Of course, they can always call in Helena Bonham Carter’s aunt–see yesterday’s column.)
Sources tell me there’s plenty of proof left behind by Michael that he provided the vocals on 12 tracks. Michael wasn’t just sitting around that whole time in the studio. He worked on the songs, and there’s evidence of it in the notations.
Some of the confusion on the currently streaming “Breaking News” may exist because Michael provided “guide” vocals on the tracks. He didn’t record back up vocals or anything else that would embellish a regular recording. Producers have added back up singing and instrumentals to flesh the records out.
Michael also never finished or polished up the tracks. What’s been done to them is similar to what was applied to the song “This Is It.” Jackson had left just a one track vocal with a piano playing in the background. John McClain added background vocals from Michael’s brothers and other musical elements to give the track life.
Also included on the new album: three songs produced by a hot new producer-writer named Nephew. One of them, which I’ve heard, is called “Best of Joy.” It’s a lovely ballad. And ironic–that Michael’s nephews are causing so much dissent over the album because their songs weren’t used, but three by someone actually named Nephew were. Weird.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/10/michael-jackson-there-is-concrete-proof-he-sang-the-new-songs
Consensus is That Michael Jackson's Breaking News is Authentic
by Paul Cashmere of Undercover
One of the big questions over the last week has been whether it is really Michael Jackson singing on the new track Breaking News. The controversy started when the the promo for the track came out that only contained a short scream at the end that, quite frankly, seemed a bit high for the singer. Now that the full track is available, the general consensus is that it truly is Jackson singing on the track.
Jackson's label Epic Records, producer Teddy Riley and manager Frank Dileo have all confirmed that the vocal is really Michael.
About the new track, Teddy Riley says "I have been working with Michael since 1991. We worked on Dangerous, 
the HIStory album, The Addams Family Values project and then Invincible. Needless to say, we spent months and months in the studio together. The
 times I spent with Michael were very important, dear, special, and learning experiences. I studied Michael and everything about him from day one. I know Michael's voice in every range; I've explored Michael's vocal ability from baritone and tenor to alto and soprano. As the years went by, I've witnessed his tones changing, sometimes up or down. My feeling on the authenticity of his vocals on this album (another masterpiece) are that they were all done by Michael in different places and in different climates. The vocals sounded very polished, very on key and processed. I have no doubts that these are Michael's vocals. I stand for myself with no discrimination."
According to Frank Dileo, "As Michael Jackson's long time manager and friend, I have first hand Knowledge in determining whether or not it is Michael's voice we 
are hearing on the Cascio tracks. I have no doubt that the voice we are 
hearing on those songs belong to Michael Jackson. I spoke to Michael by 
telephone at the Cascio's home studio several times while he was 
recording with them, and he was excited and enthused by the music and 
the experience. While listening to the tracks, especially the ones not 
heard by the general public, you can hear that he was having a great 
time."
Finally Epic Records confirmed, "We have complete confidence in the results of our extensive research as well as the accounts of those who were in the studio with Michael that the vocals on the new album are his own."
Jackson recorded Breaking News in 2007 in New Jersey. It will be featured on an album of previous unreleased song titled Michael due in December.
You can hear Breaking News now streaming at www.michaeljackson.com.
http://mog.com/blog_post/content/723/2510564
I don't know what's the connection between Friedman and the Cascios but he is pushing them ever since the songs popped up. He is like their spokesperson. He praises these shit shongs, while writes things like "Invincible was a bad album, anyway". Make of it what you want, but I think Friedman is not unbiased when it comes to the Cascios. Not at all.
it should be persuasion, but I've listened to it 3 more times and on the last time I also thought it is different and sounds more like MJ
I. can't. understand. anything :doh:
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Oh and that Cascios can show handwritten notations by Michael on these songs doesn't prove anything about the finished product! We know that he lived with the Cascios, we know that he worked with them in the studio, we also know that he recorded some tunes. Most of us even accept that part of BN is him. But not ALL, and probably not most of the song. And that is the problem! No amount of handwritten notes will prove anything about it.
We also don't know what Michael's intentions were with these recordings. Did he really think these songs written by Eddie and his friends are of quality to release or was he just having casual fun with friends helping them, by giving them instructions etc? I think the latter, he probably never intended to use or release these.
We also don't know what Michael's intentions were with these recordings. Did he really think these songs written by Eddie and his friends are of quality to release or was he just having casual fun with friends helping them, by giving them instructions etc? I think the latter, he probably never intended to use or release these.
I've just read that 2 of greatest audiologists analysed the track, even compared with Malachi, and said is Mike.
I dunno about the other tracks I didn't listen yet. But I've listened again this morning on Breacking News using professional earphones, and almost all I hear is Michael.
Maybe few words that he mumbled, the filled in, but in rest..... all I hear is Mike voice, recorded on non professional microphone.
In fact this was my first impression... but then I've changed under the pressure of fan masses.
Also I am 100% sure that let's say if this voice is of an impersonator, is not Malachi. Listened to Malachi, to those comparisons fans made, and is not him.
I dunno about the other tracks I didn't listen yet. But I've listened again this morning on Breacking News using professional earphones, and almost all I hear is Michael.
Maybe few words that he mumbled, the filled in, but in rest..... all I hear is Mike voice, recorded on non professional microphone.
In fact this was my first impression... but then I've changed under the pressure of fan masses.
Also I am 100% sure that let's say if this voice is of an impersonator, is not Malachi. Listened to Malachi, to those comparisons fans made, and is not him.