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Michael - The Great Album Debate

Billyjeanplxiv said:
I'm looking forward to hearing All Right, and Ready2Win in full
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^^bleh...I hate that moaning and complaining voice. Who's going to believe him when he sings 'I believe I'm ready to win'?

Nah...I prefer listening to this:

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^^^Now that's eerie. Not Jason Malachi's vocals. Only thing that is a shame is that he doesn't know what he is singing about.

And listen to his laughter at 0.46.... He even laughs like Michael...:D
 
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Yup, JEAN is the closest to MJ, and he is a very good guy unlike Jason who betrayed MJ.
 
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I really enjoyed watching the Break of Dawn cover video. I've gotten very used to his style of slurring Michael's words together in a foreign blur so I actually kind of enjoy the different take. I feel like he's capturing the emotion and energy more than just trying to make it perfect.
 
Damn, he's getting so good, but English still sucks. Also, his hiccups sucks, I don't know why he can't get them right. It's very easy to do

Price of Fame:

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The guy who fools the most fans is the closest to MJ.

As much as I don't hear the usual MJ in the Cascio songs, I must confess that I am still uncertain with "Black Widow" regardless of the copy-pastes.
 
Pentum said:
Hopefully, the fiasco songs will leak in full soon so you can see why they didn't release songs like fall in love and ready 2 win
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let's not wish for illegal stuff to happen. It generally comes with consequences.
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
The guy who fools the most fans is the closest to MJ.

As much as I don't hear the usual MJ in the Cascio songs, I must confess that I am still uncertain with "Black Widow" regardless of the copy-pastes.
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At one point I thought I heard Michael in the backgroundvocals. Must listen again to know if I still hear it. But with backgroundvocals it can be even more difficult, IMO.
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
The guy who fools the most fans is the closest to MJ.

As much as I don't hear the usual MJ in the Cascio songs, I must confess that I am still uncertain with "Black Widow" regardless of the copy-pastes.
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The four adlibs at the beginning are Mj pastes as are all the adlibs. All leads are JM. The bridge is the worst.
 
Pentum said:
Stella is talking about the 1. min something leaked snippet
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I do hear JM's voice in those tracks, but at times I have impression another soundalike is involved. There are some parts that it doesn't really sound like JM, I just can't tell why. Sth is different.

p.s. music is covering the thing, can anyone make a cappella?

p.p.s. I have impression there are many MJ copy pastes in that BW. If we had a cappella it'd be more obvious.
 
I think you are wrong, Bumper. The vibrato is clrealy the same, along with the horrible falsetto, yelping and gasping.

Jason does good on the "you're DIRTY, BABY" part, I gotta give him that.
 
Pentum said:
I think you are wrong, Bumper. The vibrato is clrealy the same, along with the horrible falsetto, yelping and gasping.

Jason does good on the "you're DIRTY, BABY" part, I gotta give him that.
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For the falsetto I agree, it doesn't sound Michael's. But the voice timbre doesn't sound the same as on the other Cascio tracks. I have impression there are some copy-pastes.
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
For the falsetto I agree, it doesn't sound Michael's. But the voice timbre doesn't sound the same as on the other Cascio tracks. I have impression there are some copy-pastes.
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Copy pasted ad libs:

Ha! (not sure if MJ, but might be since they are using it on like what, 3 songs?)
Cmon! (unbrekable)
Doggooone /not sure from where)
Aow! not sure from where

Vers 1 Jason all the way til the "don't stop, she don't stop, baby" part, which is also just Jason (with porte and jason in bg)

Chorus

All is Jason on lead vocals. You can also hear pote in the BG with Jason.
 
No new leaks. I'm talking about the BW 1 min something snippet that leaked last winter (think it was winter)

Edit: Oh u qouted that part ^^ I just did some lyrics from Queen- Im going slightly mad
 
Pentum said:
Demo included one voice: MJ

2008 version includes multiple voices, where most of them sounds like MJ (I rechecked, making the vocals clearer, although it's not so easy to identify all voices when there are like 3-4-5 voices).

Why are we talking about this?...
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Funny, Stella and others are 100% sure -- using their EARS -- that it's all MJ on that bridge -- no other singers.

Using MY ears, I think MJ is in there, but real low in the mix, surrounded by other voices.

And this is important because it shows how difficult it is to identify some voices in certain circumctances with 100 % certainty (hello, doubters).

It is also important because this bridge was recorded/added/mixed/whatever during a period where MJ worked with Eddie Cascio, so all artistic decisions made at that point might be of interest when it comes to the issue at hand.

Pentum : I'm not the one who said the WBSS 2008 vocals were from a demo from the eighties, but I remember a lot of other fans made that claim before MJ's death, when Thriller 25 was released.

Suggestion : could we all stop accusing each other of "not knowing MJ'S voice"? We're all fans who have spent probably thousands of hours listening to MJ's voice over decades. So I think it can be assumed that we all know MJ's voice.
 
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What's funny? I said most of them sound like MJ and they probably are, but it's not so easy to identify voices when they are stacked. Cant you understand that? Or are you making a point? Beacuse lead vocals sounds like Michael. And in the Fiasco songs, they don't.

And congratulations, looks like your ears finally told you one right thing for once.
 
Just to add - WildStyle was right, the multiple vocals in the bridge were already there in the demo, only turned down very, very low:

http://soundcloud.com/pentum/fat-bridge-mixdown

Listen closely a few seconds in and you can hear what we hear on the "08" version.


"And this is important because it shows how difficult it is to identify some voices in certain circumctances with 100 % certainty (hello, doubters)."

Certain circumstances yes, in some bg vocals. Lead vocals? No. And the point of this whole thread is the lead vocals on the songs
 
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kreen said:
Funny, Stella and others are 100% sure -- using their EARS -- that it's all MJ on that bridge -- no other singers.

Using MY ears, I think MJ is in there, but real low in the mix, surrounded by other voices.

And this is important because it shows how difficult it is to identify some voices in certain circumctances with 100 % certainty (hello, doubters).

It is also important because this bridge was recorded/added/mixed/whatever during a period where MJ worked with Eddie Cascio, so all artistic decisions made at that point might be of interest when it comes to the issue at hand.

Pentum : I'm not the one who said the WBSS 2008 vocals were from a demo from the eighties, but I remember a lot of other fans made that claim before MJ's death, when Thriller 25 was released.

Suggestion : could we all stop accusing each other of "not knowing MJ'S voice"? We're all fans who have spent probably thousands of hours listening to MJ's voice over decades. So I think it can be assumed that we all know MJ's voice.
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That's why we are doubting, hello believers!
 
Hey, now the page numbers of this thread are turning into modern years.

1987. The year Bad was released. How exciting! I still say we close the thread at 2000! We can start a new one then. :)
 
To me it isn't hard to recognize stacked vocals when they are MJ's. His sound like no others. For instance, Break Of Dawn is obviously multiple singers. You can hear it. You Rock My World however is undoubtably 100% MJ stacked. You can hear it. If the stacked voices in the For All Time bridge is not 100% MJ, it's 90% MJ. His voice stands out very clearly.
 
I think it was BUMPER who one time told the story of being able to detect Michael's voice in the background of like a Doobie Brothers song once on the radio, and then later found out it really was him back there.
 
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