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Michael - The Great Album Debate

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

oh guys, page 191 is broken, just sayin.

Anyway, some of you are getting a little off topic and being a bit silly really, honestly i can see why they released an album like this.

It's probably the worst of the bunch, rumours about APWNN and Blue Gangsta appearing on the next album is good news, everything that was said about Michael's voice not being up to scratch in those songs are not excuses, they are true, you can't ignore other opinions to stick to yours, if you do that it's obvious your opinion is false
 
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Look at those bold parts and answer my question:

What kind of friends are the Cascios to even think selling so weak and poor tracks?

I mean, it is just as if I had known Michaelangelo and as if I had sold a raw insignificant thing from his life poorly made. I am even more disgusted by the Cascios when I read such articles.

On the other hand, what kind of strategy from SONY it is to put that on a first posthumous album. They clearly could have left them for other projects.

But anyway, all what I said was in case if it really were Michael's vocals. I highly doubt it though. There are too many excuses. I just provided a video showing Lenny Kravitz singing in the street with a cheap microphone, his voice was just as usual. On many other occasions I have heard Michael singing during the interviews without really warming up, he never had such a different voice. The excuses are really not convincing.
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He hasn't sung 'too low', that's why. Probably the right key wasn't decided or it was even intentional but whatever he had to sing in unusual registers. Then, he probably didn't stay in the real key because of that so they had to repitch parts. Listen his warm up sessions and you understand. I understand the whole thing very well because I am a singer and I also understand how unusual voice he had overally. He could have made so much with his voice but of course through the years it was sounding the same because that was the goal. There was no real goals with these recordings. Can't we drop this issue because it's obvious no one else is imitating him there but it's him. If you say people sound always the same that I don't understand at all because people sound from time to time very different, unintentionally or intentionally. It actually needs more work to sound the same all the time and that's why there's voice training and singing lessons.
 
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Topflux said:
Can't we drop this issue because it's obvious no one else is imitating him there but it's him.
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We'll drop the issue when you come up with a good comparison video.

And if it was so obvious it wouldn't have cause contraversy in the first place.
 
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Tom said:
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HAHA! Thats hilarious!
 
Topflux;3242062 said:
He hasn't sung 'too low', that's why.
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Excuse n°1

Topflux;3242062 said:
Probably...
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P¨robably, probably not.

Topflux;3242062 said:
the right key wasn't decided
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Excuse n°2

Topflux;3242062 said:
...or it was even intentional but whatever he had to sing in unusual registers.
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Probably, probably not.
Excuse n°3

Topflux;3242062 said:
Then, he probably...
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Probably, probably not.

Topflux;3242062 said:
...didn't stay in the real key because of that so they had to repitch parts.
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Excuse n°4

Topflux;3242062 said:
Listen his warm up sessions and you understand.
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I did, I even provided one of the links. I also provided links with other instances of him and Lenny where their voices was not warmed up at all, they sounded just the way they always sound. That's been completely ignored by the non doubters.

Topflux;3242062 said:
I understand the whole thing very well because I am a singer and I also understand how unusual voice he had overally.
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Taryll is a singer too, and on top of that Michael's nephew, so I am pretty sure he understands how unusual his uncle's voice can be, but not that unusual. Maybe he has less skills than you.

Topflux;3242062 said:
He could have made so much with his voice but of course through the years it was sounding the same because that was the goal.
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Excuse n°5

Topflux;3242062 said:
There was no real goals with these recordings.
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Complete contradiction with the excuse n°5.

Topflux;3242062 said:
Can't we drop this issue
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No, we can't.

Topflux;3242062 said:
... because it's obvious no one else is imitating him there but it's him.
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Excuse n°6

It's so obvious that we have a controversy for over months without any substantial proofs but Eddie claiming he pushed the buttons showing pictures of his empty studio.

Topflux;3242062 said:
If you say people sound always the same that I don't understand at all because people sound from time to time very different, unintentionally or intentionally
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From time to time? On all Cascio songs so far he sounds different. That's not what I call from time to time, but a 5/5 perfect match, which means different from all other songs he ever recorded. In other words he always sounds different on Cascio tracks, not from time to time.

Topflux;3242062 said:
It actually needs more work to sound the same all the time and that's why there's voice training and singing lessons.
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Excuse n°8
 
BUMPER SNIPPET;3242103 said:
Excuse n°1



P¨robably, probably not.



Excuse n°2



Probably, probably not.
Excuse n°3



Probably, probably not.



Excuse n°4



I did, I even provided one of the links. I also provided links with other instances of him and Lenny where their voices was not warmed up at all, they sounded just the way they always sound. That's been completely ignored by the non doubters.



Taryll is a singer too, and on top of that Michael's nephew, so I am pretty sure he understands how unusual his uncle's voice can be, but not that unusual. Maybe he has less skills than you.



Excuse n°5



Complete contradiction with the excuse n°5.



No, we can't.



Excuse n°6

It's so obvious that we have a controversy for over months without any substantial proofs but Eddie claiming he pushed the buttons showing pictures of his empty studio.

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Excuse n°7

From time to time? On all Cascio songs so far he sounds different. That's not what I call from time to time, but a 5/5 perfect match, which means different from all other songs he ever recorded. In other words he always sounds different on Cascio tracks, not from time to time.



Excuse n°8
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Now THAT is a post!!
 
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Um...did you guys debate already why there is so much copy/paste through all the songs?
 
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Dorian said:
Um...did you guys debate already why there is so much copy/paste through all the songs?
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I think it was done to "Michael" it up, and possibly to make it easier to deceive listeners...
 
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Moon__Walk said:
I think it was done to "Michael" it up, and possibly to make it easier to deceive listeners...
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And/or maybe the Cascio songs weren't complete?
 
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Hahaha... Just read this...

The acapella of Jason Malachi's 'Mamacita' that was online was taken down by JAB ME Music. JAB ME Music? Where have we heard that name before? Oh yeah...

Jab Me Music Published the 3 fake songs on Michael. Those are the only 3 songs published by Jab Me Music.

Keep Your Head Up (*)
Written by Michael Jackson, Eddie Cascio, James Porte / Published by
Mijac Music, Jab Me Music
Monster (Featuring 50 Cent) (*)
Written by Michael Jackson, Eddie Cascio, James Porte / Rap Lyrics Written by Curtis Jackson / Published by Mijac Music, Jab Me Music
Breaking News (*)
Written by Michael Jackson, Eddie Cascio, James Porte / Published by Mijac Music, Jab Me Music /

Oh yeah... JAB ME Music is featured on all of the Cascio songs. Seriously... Screw you Sony! If it wasn't obvious to everyone beforehand, it should be now!
 
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Really? No way! Where was this a cappella (full?) ?

We all know JAB ME Music, lol. Takes down every video and audio I upload everytime.
 
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Pentum said:
Really? No way! Where was this a cappella (full?) ?

We all know JAB ME Music, lol. Takes down every video and audio I upload everytime.
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Malachi's gone bad :D.He thinks he's a star now :punk:
 
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Dorian said:
And/or maybe the Cascio songs weren't complete?
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That's also a possibility....

Thanks for the find, Why would Jab ME music be taking down all the acapella's for Malachi? That has nothing to do with their published Cascio tracks....
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Who exactly are Jab Me Music? I've never heard of it.
 
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^^^They published the three Cascio Tracks on Michael and are now taking down Malachi Acapella's. Very unusual...
 
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This all reminds me of the Tupac sound alikes. Lots of Tupac fans still think Black Haze and Kasinova Tha Don is Tupac.

Listen to this:

TUPAC:
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Now, listen to this:

[youtube]aFcElTO6WxQ[/youtube]

This is not Tupac, but a guy called Black Haze. Look at the comments on the video - almost everyone think it's Tupac, but it's not. It's also the same situation like Malachi, almost no pictures, almost no videos (not sure if there even are videos of this guy, long time I looked into this).

Also listen to this, this is ANOTHER guy, sounding very similar to Tupac:

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The guy is called Kasinova Tha Don. People also think this is Tupac.

One More:

TUPAC:

[youtube]Ay9BWM8lwOA[/youtube]

KASINOVA:

[youtube]ejFRHcJlKXk[/youtube]

I'm not saying the situation is the same, but it's similar. Lots of fans caliming it's Tupac, other fans claiming it's not.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

That is unusual. You'd think Angelikson Production would publish them with MJ's label.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

^^^Except to many, Its blatantly obvious that the singer on Michael does not sound like Michael Jackson...
 
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Jesta said:
That is unusual. You'd think Angelikson Production would publish them with MJ's label.
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Certainly! Very interesting...
 
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Moon__Walk said:
^^^Except to many, Its blatantly obvious that the singer on Michael does not sound like Michael Jackson...
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Yeah, but too many of the Tupac fans, the singer actually doesn't sound that much as Tupac.

I do think these two guys sound more like Tupac, than the singer on the cascio tracks sound like Michael, though, obviously. But there are people swearing it's Michael on these tracks and there are people swearing it's Tupac on those tracks.
 
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Pentum said:
Yeah, but too many of the Tupac fans, the singer actually doesn't sound that much as Tupac.

I do think these two guys sound more like Tupac, than the singer on the cascio tracks sound like Michael, though, obviously. But there are people swearing it's Michael on these tracks and there are people swearing it's Tupac on those tracks.
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Like I said earlier, I haven't seen one fan claim that these vocals on the Cascio songs sound like every other Michael Jackson song. No one on here has claimed, 'it's obviously Michael Jackson'. There's usually an excuse as to why 'Michael' sounds different than he usually does.
 
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Moon__Walk said:
That's also a possibility....

Thanks for the find, Why would Jab ME music be taking down all the acapella's for Malachi? That has nothing to do with their published Cascio tracks....
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Oh but they do, thats what we have been saying since the day breaking news premiered :lol:

Amazing find samhabib, i'm suprised nobody has made that connection til' now.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Sam, where was the a cappella?
 
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Pentum said:
Yeah, but too many of the Tupac fans, the singer actually doesn't sound that much as Tupac.

I do think these two guys sound more like Tupac, than the singer on the cascio tracks sound like Michael, though, obviously. But there are people swearing it's Michael on these tracks and there are people swearing it's Tupac on those tracks.
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This thread's going off tupac.
 
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^ :lol:
 
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I saw that one, but I thought you meant a full.

Tony R said:
This thread's going off tupac.
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Just trying to make a point.

R.I.P Tupac.
 
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