Michael - The Great Album Debate

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

yeah i'm just in a bad mood so likely to argue anything with you. Feel free to tell me to f off.

f... O..

 

[StellaJackson]

f... O..

Certainly sir.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Certainly sir.

I meant "fake off"

Urban dictionary:

fake off	6 thumbs up
	to waste a precious time by doing nothing; he was just sitting there all day only to fake off, that's a shame! he could be somebody if he tried...

 

[StellaJackson]

he was just sitting there all day only to fake off, that's a shame! he could be somebody if he tried...

Is that a line from the Jason Malachi guide book on how to destroy your own singing career by committing large scale fraud?

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

he was just sitting there all day only to fake off, that's a shame! he could be somebody if he tried...

Is that a line from the Jason Malachi guide book on how to destroy your own singing career by committing large scale fraud?

Lol

 

[Billyjeanplxiv]

Oh i love Jason Malachi isnt he the one that did the Thriller album and the Smooth criminal?

 

[azsummergirl]

Now do you think people wanna buy seconds of a song or a complete song?

yes. i would pay money for 5 seconds of michael's actual voice. i don't want a complete song, especially not if it's sung by jason malachi.

the copy/pastes are a big deal b/c they were intentionally inserted to propagate the fraud. They didn't copy/paste ad libs (i don't have a huge problem with that) they copy/pasted actual WORDS to form complete sentences that were never sung by mj in the first place. that's a problem. you wouldn't need to copy/paste the word "why" or the word 'me" if michael jackson had actually been the one to sing "why you stalkin me"

 

[ivy]

you wouldn't need to copy/paste the word "why" or the word 'me" if michael jackson had actually been the one to sing "why you stalkin me"

john lennon.. recording at a type recorder.. parts being not audible.. pasting Mccartney vocals on the bad parts.. so yeah if vocals are not good quality they could paste same words from other songs or use singers to fill or strengthen them. it's been done before.

 

[azsummergirl]

^^that's not the case here. because the rest of the song that isn't copy/pasted words sounds like jason malachi.

the entirety of the vocals is not michael. the ONLY parts that are mj are the copy/pasted ad libs and individual words. so ya, that's a major problem for me. and it's sneaky as hell and they're a bunch of thieves and liars for pulling this.

what they did was wrong, there's not "well maybe . . . but did we think of . . . this could be . . . "

it was just plain wrong and intentionally sneaky and it makes me crazy that people did it in the first place and that other people continue to defend it. it's just sad.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Maybe Darth Vador's and Max Headroom's voices are actually Michael's melodyned voice... who knows?

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[BUMPER SNIPPET]

I see many excuses for the copy-pasted vocals (not adlibs, but actual words). Now what is the excuse for having the re-played melodies of:

You are not alone
Heaven can wait
They don't care about us
You rock my world
Stranger in Moscow
On the line

???


And I still haven't gotten a single answer by any believer to my question.

I said I'll become a believer in a heartbeat if any believer explains to me in the song STAY 1:09 to 1:10. As I said, I don't have to point out what to explain. Listen to it and you'll hear it for yourself.

 

[Pentum]

According to believers, Michael changed his accent when staying with the Fiascos, or he tried something new, or he mimiced the guided vocals by James Porte or someone else while singing.

That is how the result "wai'in" came to life...TWICE...

 

[T.N.A.]

john lennon.. recording at a type recorder.. parts being not audible.. pasting Mccartney vocals on the bad parts.. so yeah if vocals are not good quality they could paste same words from other songs or use singers to fill or strengthen them. it's been done before.

So? Because it's been done before in other non-MJ songs, people have to be okay with it happening on MJ songs?

 

[T.N.A.]

Around this time last year, I believe I made the claim that Freddie Mercury has easily had the best posthumous career of any musical entertainer, and I still stand by that.

Musically speaking, yes. And yeah, sales wise too, why not. In fact, Queen had that success. Considering THEY only put out one studio album after Freddie's death.

However, Freddie has been treated in a much more loving and less commercially-oriented way. Only one album was released with his name on it after his death, and it contains some of my favourite pieces of music.

1992 - 'The Freddie Mercury album' or 'The Great Pretender' (the US version of the album). Which had a bunch of solo Freddie tracks that were either previous album tracks (Love Kills, Living On My Own, etc.) and a few other non-album singles like 'Time' or 'In My Defense'. Here's an example of what some of the songs off this album sound like:

Here's the original '85 version of My Love Is Dangerous (off 'Mr. Bad Guy'):

[youtube]T6SNAs8WYIM[/youtube]

And here's the '92 version of the song:

[youtube]luZKX014PVQ[/youtube]

Personally, I like a lot of songs off this album. The original versions sound way to 'at the time' and it's a shame because they have some killer vocals on them. Brian, Roger and John can agree with me here, they 'saved' 'Made In Heaven' and 'I Was Born To Love You' which sound way better than Freddie's solo versions. Don't get me wrong, I love the song but I just don't get it. Maybe the fact that it was one of the few things recorded in Freddie's final months. Other than that, I don't see why the bothered with it. They had 'Dog With A Bone', 'I Guess We're Falling In Love' and a few other GREAT tracks which have way more and better vocals from Freddie. That's all they needed, vocals, and these other unreleased songs had way more vocals.

Oh and btw, the guys had nothing to do with 'The Freddie Mercury album'. Queen's longtime producer Mack (full name, Reinhold Mack) was hired to oversee the project while a bunch of producers worked with the original tapes which were given by Jim Beach (former manager and longtime friend of the band and also the guy who runs Freddie's estate).

Also, this isn't the only Freddie Mercury (not Queen) posthumous release. There also a 'Remixes' album that was released in '93, I believe. And then in 2000, there was the ultimate Freddie solo box set titled The Solo Collection (11 discs, 1 DVD, a bonus CD and both Freddie solo albums, 'Mr Bad Guy' and 'Barcelona'). Again, keep in mind, this is only Freddie solo stuff, which has nothing to do with Queen's unreleased material. Oh and another compilation album titled 'Lover of Life, Singer of songs' released in 2006.

So yeah, Made In Heaven was the last Queen album, and the only one that was released after Freddie's death, featuring previously unreleased material.

In fact, You Don't Fool Me was a Frankenstein song, using a selection of vocal tracks to create a complete song. Listening to the song, you would never have guessed. But the use of copy-paste vocals is incredibly evident in the Cascio tracks... Then again, the two aren't really comparable, seeing as the verses and choruses of You Don't Fool Me were in fact fully intact and they didn't fabricate sentences - it was more sequencing the verses than synthetically creating them.

Funny you mentioned it. I actually never understood why the even bothered working so much on, what was initially nothing but a bunch of random lines Freddie was singing during his final times in the studio.

Remember, at this point, Freddie is already with one foot on the other side. He couldn't have waited for the guys to do the music for the tracks they were working on. He wrote 'A Winter's Tale' and sung it using only a drum machine. Same with 'Mother Love'. Brian kept writing him lines on scraps of paper and he would sing each line three times, and that was it. So in these final two tracks Freddie recorded, he was singing final vocals and told the band to finish the songs without him.

And my god, did they do an amazing job on them. Just goes to show you (if you didn't already know) that the other members of Queen were also very wonderful and talented musicians, song writers and singers (only Brian and Roger sang, John was too cool for that, lmao).

Queen was never about Freddie Mercury. Sure, he was the lead singer, which is why he gets a lot of the recognition but he certainly wasn't the leader of the band. Freddie Mercury would've been nothing without Brian May, Roger Taylor and John Deacon, and vice versa. Most of the band's hit weren't even written by Freddie. Every single member of the band wrote songs that became classic Queen songs and number one hits during their time.

Freddie Mercury - Bohemian Rhapsody, We Are The Champions.
Brian May - We Will Rock You, The Show Must Go On.
Roger Taylor - Radio Gaga, A Kind Of Magic.
John Deacon - Another One Bites The Dust, I Want To Break Free.

and many more...

Freddie also had arguably the greatest tribute concert in history dedicated to him in a mere 6 months of his passing, as it was not only to tribute him, but to also bring attention to AIDS and the HIV virus - a very noble endeavour.

That's what happens when you have 3 other rock Gods putting the show together. Also, the venue, time and musical acts helped with the success. A true tribute for a true rock legend, no doubt about it.

Brian May and Roger Taylor had recently gotten clearance from the Estate to release the Mercury-Jackson tracks for an album, but they have stated that they do not plan on releasing an "album" as such because they do not want to partake in a "barrel-scraping exercise" (they were strapped for material for Made in Heaven, relying on two tracks from Freddie's solo albums to fill it out, as well as other songs recorded years before Freddie's death because there wasn't enough releasable material that Freddie recorded in the last months of his death). Of course, this doesn't stop them from releasing demos as part of a boxset ala The Ultimate Collection, but the fact that they do not want to release an album for those reasons is a very admirable thing, and I hope the Estate takes heed of their intentions.

I recently mentioned the anthology set that Queen fans have been waiting for since... the 2000s. That would seem like the most plausible way of releasing the MJ tracks but I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon. Here's why...

I doubt 3 songs can count as an album, maybe an EP. They'll probably be released as part of some Queen boxset or something. I highly doubt they'll be released as stand-alone singles or a 3 track EP.

This year Queen is re-issuing the live material from their catalog (as part of the deal with their new label Universal). Last year they re-issued their studio albums with bonus stuff on each album. Some were rare gems and some were just pointless live tracks they already released on live albums, which was just a heads-up for this year, when they re-issue their live stuff, with bonus stuff I suppose. Maybe a couple of new live releases such as Knebworth '86, the last concert with Freddie and maybe a 70s concert such as Hammersmith '75 or Earls Court '77 (those being the priority of the fans), Knebworth not so much, but still worth having in your collection.

So this year, it's mostly about live stuff in Queen's camp. Which is why I honestly have no idea how and when they'll release the MJ & Freddie duets. I highly doubt they'll randomly release the long awaited Anthology set (that Queen fans are salivating for) this year, maybe next year. If they would indeed release it this year (which again, I HIGHLY doubt) then they could put the tracks on that boxset along with the other rare stuff, demos and unreleased stuff they'd release.

So either Brian and Roger come up with a way to release those three tracks this year (maybe just two, still no word on Victory) or we're just gonna get another delay on them... S'ok though, we'll eventually get those tracks too. If not this year, then we'll surely get them next year.

Don't worry, Bad25 should keep us busy this year...

And I have absolutely no problem with Brian and Roger finishing the unreleased tracks. When it comes to Queen songs, all you need from Freddie are his vocals, if you have his vocals you can have your Queen song. All the remaining Queen members are still alive, they can all add their instruments and complete the songs the way they did with the songs of Made In Heaven.

If one day, the anthologies were to come... maybe John Deacon will return to help the guys finish and release such a box set. I strongly believe such a set will be released sometimes in the future, I just doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon.

Like I said, I don't see any other way they could release the MJ tracks otherwise. I doubt they'll release them as singles or as an EP. They already said that they don't want to put out a new album and I think it's better that way, having 'Made In Heaven' as the closing chapter of Queen's studio discography.

Which only leaves the anthologies as a way of releasing the tracks. With the anthologies they can finish off other songs as well, and release the demos of those songs too. There's SO much potential with such a release and I hope they we'll get it within the next two or three years.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

According to believers, Michael changed his accent when staying with the Fiascos, or he tried something new, or he mimiced the guided vocals by James Porte or someone else while singing.

That is how the result "wai'in" came to life...TWICE...

I just wonder what is the believers' rational explanation from their own mouth.

 

[8701girl]

No, I think it is the color of his shirt and some shadow or a hair that made it appear strange, nothing more ;-)

Oh ok

 

[Arklove]

Musically speaking, yes. And yeah, sales wise too, why not. In fact, Queen had that success. Considering THEY only put out one studio album after Freddie's death.



1992 - 'The Freddie Mercury album' or 'The Great Pretender' (the US version of the album). Which had a bunch of solo Freddie tracks that were either previous album tracks (Love Kills, Living On My Own, etc.) and a few other non-album singles like 'Time' or 'In My Defense'. Here's an example of what some of the songs off this album sound like:

Here's the original '85 version of My Love Is Dangerous (off 'Mr. Bad Guy'):

[youtube]T6SNAs8WYIM[/youtube]

And here's the '92 version of the song:

[youtube]luZKX014PVQ[/youtube]

Personally, I like a lot of songs off this album. The original versions sound way to 'at the time' and it's a shame because they have some killer vocals on them. Brian, Roger and John can agree with me here, they 'saved' 'Made In Heaven' and 'I Was Born To Love You' which sound way better than Freddie's solo versions. Don't get me wrong, I love the song but I just don't get it. Maybe the fact that it was one of the few things recorded in Freddie's final months. Other than that, I don't see why the bothered with it. They had 'Dog With A Bone', 'I Guess We're Falling In Love' and a few other GREAT tracks which have way more and better vocals from Freddie. That's all they needed, vocals, and these other unreleased songs had way more vocals.

Oh and btw, the guys had nothing to do with 'The Freddie Mercury album'. Queen's longtime producer Mack (full name, Reinhold Mack) was hired to oversee the project while a bunch of producers worked with the original tapes which were given by Jim Beach (former manager and longtime friend of the band and also the guy who runs Freddie's estate).

Also, this isn't the only Freddie Mercury (not Queen) posthumous release. There also a 'Remixes' album that was released in '93, I believe. And then in 2000, there was the ultimate Freddie solo box set titled The Solo Collection (11 discs, 1 DVD, a bonus CD and both Freddie solo albums, 'Mr Bad Guy' and 'Barcelona'). Again, keep in mind, this is only Freddie solo stuff, which has nothing to do with Queen's unreleased material. Oh and another compilation album titled 'Lover of Life, Singer of songs' released in 2006.

So yeah, Made In Heaven was the last Queen album, and the only one that was released after Freddie's death, featuring previously unreleased material.



Funny you mentioned it. I actually never understood why the even bothered working so much on, what was initially nothing but a bunch of random lines Freddie was singing during his final times in the studio.

Remember, at this point, Freddie is already with one foot on the other side. He couldn't have waited for the guys to do the music for the tracks they were working on. He wrote 'A Winter's Tale' and sung it using only a drum machine. Same with 'Mother Love'. Brian kept writing him lines on scraps of paper and he would sing each line three times, and that was it. So in these final two tracks Freddie recorded, he was singing final vocals and told the band to finish the songs without him.

And my god, did they do an amazing job on them. Just goes to show you (if you didn't already know) that the other members of Queen were also very wonderful and talented musicians, song writers and singers (only Brian and Roger sang, John was too cool for that, lmao).

Queen was never about Freddie Mercury. Sure, he was the lead singer, which is why he gets a lot of the recognition but he certainly wasn't the leader of the band. Freddie Mercury would've been nothing without Brian May, Roger Taylor and John Deacon, and vice versa. Most of the band's hit weren't even written by Freddie. Every single member of the band wrote songs that became classic Queen songs and number one hits during their time.

Freddie Mercury - Bohemian Rhapsody, We Are The Champions.
Brian May - We Will Rock You, The Show Must Go On.
Roger Taylor - Radio Gaga, A Kind Of Magic.
John Deacon - Another One Bites The Dust, I Want To Break Free.

and many more...



That's what happens when you have 3 other rock Gods putting the show together. Also, the venue, time and musical acts helped with the success. A true tribute for a true rock legend, no doubt about it.



I recently mentioned the anthology set that Queen fans have been waiting for since... the 2000s. That would seem like the most plausible way of releasing the MJ tracks but I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon. Here's why...



And I have absolutely no problem with Brian and Roger finishing the unreleased tracks. When it comes to Queen songs, all you need from Freddie are his vocals, if you have his vocals you can have your Queen song. All the remaining Queen members are still alive, they can all add their instruments and complete the songs the way they did with the songs of Made In Heaven.

If one day, the anthologies were to come... maybe John Deacon will return to help the guys finish and release such a box set. I strongly believe such a set will be released sometimes in the future, I just doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon.

Like I said, I don't see any other way they could release the MJ tracks otherwise. I doubt they'll release them as singles or as an EP. They already said that they don't want to put out a new album and I think it's better that way, having 'Made In Heaven' as the closing chapter of Queen's studio discography.

Which only leaves the anthologies as a way of releasing the tracks. With the anthologies they can finish off other songs as well, and release the demos of those songs too. There's SO much potential with such a release and I hope they we'll get it within the next two or three years.

Not surprised at your 'long ass' post on Queen looool

 

[T.N.A.]

^I know, right? :lol:

Just felt the need to complete and maybe correct what Jesta was saying.

I know, I'm annoying...

 

[Pentum]

I just wonder what is the believers' rational explanation from their own mouth.

That is their explanations, at least from what I remember throughout the ... years?

 

[ivy]

So? Because it's been done before in other non-MJ songs, people have to be okay with it happening on MJ songs?

you don't have to be okay with it and that wasn't my point, was it?. the post I quoted said " you don't need to paste the words if MJ was singing it" and I said " they pasted/ added McCartney even though Lennon was singing the words".

Lennon example shows that the reason to do it DOES NOT necessarily mean faking the vocals. It might simply mean the existing vocals might be weak and they might have needed to enforce them - in any shape or form - either by a copy / paste (MJ) or an additional vocal layering (beatles). So you are again left with nothing but an assumption.

doubters assume that they copied the words bc they were faking the vocals to sound like Michael. The believers can say they copied the words because the existing ones were to weak to be used. So again no proof of anything and again you can all go in circles in this debate.

 

[azsummergirl]

it's semantics. look at the big picture.

we ARE going in circles over details. but when you put all of those details together, and look at everything as a whole, it's pretty obvious what happened here. at least it is to me.

 

[Arklove]

Well, they left out the 'She's only 15' part from Hollywood Tonight...They could have pasted those words in too, cuz MJ actually sang them...why didn't they do that? They could be considered weak vocals...but they decided to leave them out...why did they feel the need to do SO much copy/pasting with the Cascio vocals? Clearly they were so incomplete...or were they the most complete song, so complete they were fit for release? So complete that they had to do the amount of processing that they did so he sounds like a completely different person? So complete that they had to copy/paste words to form sentences to make some sort of Frankenstein song? Which side if the coin is it then? Doesn't make sense lol

 

[ivy]

it's semantics. look at the big picture.

we ARE going in circles over details. but when you put all of those details together, and look at everything as a whole, it's pretty obvious what happened here. at least it is to me.

I totally disagree. I might write what I see tonight.

 

[TheSilentOne]

john lennon.. recording at a type recorder.. parts being not audible.. pasting Mccartney vocals on the bad parts.. so yeah if vocals are not good quality they could paste same words from other songs or use singers to fill or strengthen them. it's been done before.

I think the John Lennon / Beatles example is a completly different situation. In fact adding other Beatles' parts to the songs was the whole point of releasing the tracks. Not to finish John Lennon's demo but to create a new Beatles song. Paul's and George's vocals would be added even if John's vocals were perfect (or it would be released as John's solo song). Also the original demos of both songs are known among Beatles fans.

The comparable situation would be an unfinished Jacksons demo and Michael's brothers finishing it and releasing it as the Jacksons song.

ETA:

Lennon example shows that the reason to do it DOES NOT necessarily mean faking the vocals.

I agree with that. But I don't see the reason in Michael's case.
I'd prefer if they released the songs as demos if they are that unfinished.

 

[StellaJackson]

it's semantics. look at the big picture.

we ARE going in circles over details. but when you put all of those details together, and look at everything as a whole, it's pretty obvious what happened here. at least it is to me.

Completely agree with you. It's blatantly obvious what happened here. The tracks are indefensible. No matter how much discussion we have or how many circles we go in, we still find that almost a year and a half later there is no believable justification for the way these songs sound, beyond the obvious. This is why no one can explain what Bumper said about Stay. Yes there is an explanation. But people don't want to hear it so they avoid the issue and defend the songs.

 

[Chamife]

^^Of course there's an explanation. The recording equipment faltered and left holes in words.

 

[kreen]

I see many excuses for the copy-pasted vocals (not adlibs, but actual words). Now what is the excuse for having the re-played melodies of:

You are not alone
Heaven can wait
They don't care about us
You rock my world
Stranger in Moscow
On the line

???

The reused melody from You Are Not Alone in “All I Need” is not from the original song : it’s Burt Bacharach’s little musical homage to a song he maybe liked himself. As for the other melodies that reappear, Eddie Cascio and James Porte wrote the songs, and they’re obviously big MJ fans, and tried to write music that sounded like MJ music. One way to do that is to include musical references to earlier songs. MJ himself was not above that : “Cry” is a poor man’s MITM; People of the World is a rewrite of Heal the World, the ad-libs at the end of Heaven can Wait are similar to those at the end of Lady in My Life, and MJ rewrote “SYBDTTG” as “Lovely one” and DSTYGE.

 

[Pentum]

^ So when MJ heard the songs, he was like "wow... all of these songs have taken melodies from my older songs. NICE! I'll record them all mimicing Porte's, NOT making it my own thing like I always do!"

 

[ADKIc3mAnX]

ADKI can you at least admit that these songs don't sound like anything we've ever heard from Michael before?

Sure I'll admit they sound a little off but so did many others.

 

[love is magical]

Musically speaking, yes. And yeah, sales wise too, why not. In fact, Queen had that success. Considering THEY only put out one studio album after Freddie's death.



1992 - 'The Freddie Mercury album' or 'The Great Pretender' (the US version of the album). Which had a bunch of solo Freddie tracks that were either previous album tracks (Love Kills, Living On My Own, etc.) and a few other non-album singles like 'Time' or 'In My Defense'. Here's an example of what some of the songs off this album sound like:

Here's the original '85 version of My Love Is Dangerous (off 'Mr. Bad Guy'):

[youtube]T6SNAs8WYIM[/youtube]

And here's the '92 version of the song:

[youtube]luZKX014PVQ[/youtube]

Personally, I like a lot of songs off this album. The original versions sound way to 'at the time' and it's a shame because they have some killer vocals on them. Brian, Roger and John can agree with me here, they 'saved' 'Made In Heaven' and 'I Was Born To Love You' which sound way better than Freddie's solo versions. Don't get me wrong, I love the song but I just don't get it. Maybe the fact that it was one of the few things recorded in Freddie's final months. Other than that, I don't see why the bothered with it. They had 'Dog With A Bone', 'I Guess We're Falling In Love' and a few other GREAT tracks which have way more and better vocals from Freddie. That's all they needed, vocals, and these other unreleased songs had way more vocals.

Oh and btw, the guys had nothing to do with 'The Freddie Mercury album'. Queen's longtime producer Mack (full name, Reinhold Mack) was hired to oversee the project while a bunch of producers worked with the original tapes which were given by Jim Beach (former manager and longtime friend of the band and also the guy who runs Freddie's estate).

Also, this isn't the only Freddie Mercury (not Queen) posthumous release. There also a 'Remixes' album that was released in '93, I believe. And then in 2000, there was the ultimate Freddie solo box set titled The Solo Collection (11 discs, 1 DVD, a bonus CD and both Freddie solo albums, 'Mr Bad Guy' and 'Barcelona'). Again, keep in mind, this is only Freddie solo stuff, which has nothing to do with Queen's unreleased material. Oh and another compilation album titled 'Lover of Life, Singer of songs' released in 2006.

So yeah, Made In Heaven was the last Queen album, and the only one that was released after Freddie's death, featuring previously unreleased material.



Funny you mentioned it. I actually never understood why the even bothered working so much on, what was initially nothing but a bunch of random lines Freddie was singing during his final times in the studio.

Remember, at this point, Freddie is already with one foot on the other side. He couldn't have waited for the guys to do the music for the tracks they were working on. He wrote 'A Winter's Tale' and sung it using only a drum machine. Same with 'Mother Love'. Brian kept writing him lines on scraps of paper and he would sing each line three times, and that was it. So in these final two tracks Freddie recorded, he was singing final vocals and told the band to finish the songs without him.

And my god, did they do an amazing job on them. Just goes to show you (if you didn't already know) that the other members of Queen were also very wonderful and talented musicians, song writers and singers (only Brian and Roger sang, John was too cool for that, lmao).

Queen was never about Freddie Mercury. Sure, he was the lead singer, which is why he gets a lot of the recognition but he certainly wasn't the leader of the band. Freddie Mercury would've been nothing without Brian May, Roger Taylor and John Deacon, and vice versa. Most of the band's hit weren't even written by Freddie. Every single member of the band wrote songs that became classic Queen songs and number one hits during their time.

Freddie Mercury - Bohemian Rhapsody, We Are The Champions.
Brian May - We Will Rock You, The Show Must Go On.
Roger Taylor - Radio Gaga, A Kind Of Magic.
John Deacon - Another One Bites The Dust, I Want To Break Free.

and many more...



That's what happens when you have 3 other rock Gods putting the show together. Also, the venue, time and musical acts helped with the success. A true tribute for a true rock legend, no doubt about it.



I recently mentioned the anthology set that Queen fans have been waiting for since... the 2000s. That would seem like the most plausible way of releasing the MJ tracks but I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon. Here's why...



And I have absolutely no problem with Brian and Roger finishing the unreleased tracks. When it comes to Queen songs, all you need from Freddie are his vocals, if you have his vocals you can have your Queen song. All the remaining Queen members are still alive, they can all add their instruments and complete the songs the way they did with the songs of Made In Heaven.

If one day, the anthologies were to come... maybe John Deacon will return to help the guys finish and release such a box set. I strongly believe such a set will be released sometimes in the future, I just doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon.

Like I said, I don't see any other way they could release the MJ tracks otherwise. I doubt they'll release them as singles or as an EP. They already said that they don't want to put out a new album and I think it's better that way, having 'Made In Heaven' as the closing chapter of Queen's studio discography.

Which only leaves the anthologies as a way of releasing the tracks. With the anthologies they can finish off other songs as well, and release the demos of those songs too. There's SO much potential with such a release and I hope they we'll get it within the next two or three years.

Great post! I think you hit to the main point here. After experiencing Michael, Vision and Immortal, I'm 1000% sure that Michael's magic cannot be duplicated and any efforts trying to recreate his genius is futile. You are right that Queen was never just about Freddie Mercury. I'm not diminishing Freddie's genuius. But, Brian May, Roger Taylor and John Deacon were tremendous muscians in their own rights. I'd say the Beatle's success was a result of the synergy among Lennon, McCartney, Harrision and Starr. However, Michael's success was largely attributed to himself.

I came back from the Immortal show. Despite enjoying the show, the empty feeling I got after seeing the show is aching. Technically speaking, the show was great. The set was great. The sound was great. The performers were great. But, the show lacked its star. The charisma radiated by Michael cannot be replaced by any one. Many people said they felt his pressence in the show. Unfortunately for me, that pressence is so elusive.

Similar with the album Michael, let's put the controversy aside and just talk about the quality, I feel the album lacks any direction. Everyboby is trying to think and re-think and guess and second-guess. As a result, we had an album that was not representative of Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson was such an all-around artist. Musically stunning. Visiually stunning. Sonically stunning. Vocally stunning. He spoiled us with his best. Everything he did was so much better than whatever people do on behalf of him now.

I don't know how to express my feeling. No doubt the Michael Jackson Estate is enjoying unprecedented commercial success - which is a further testament of the unparallel talents of Michael Jackson. However, I feel like I'm forced to recognize the reality that I so want to escape every time I hear and see a new release. That Michael Jackson is really gone. Anything after 2009, anything that he himself had not touch will not generate the same kind of excitement.

I'm not so sure about unreleased materials these days. I guess if they are not released in their organic format. Then, I can say I'm not interested. To me, other people's interpreatations of Michael Jackson's music are hardly the same as Michael Jackson's music. I would pay money for 5 seconds of Michael Jackson's vocal instead of a full-blown 3 minutes complete song filled with elements that Michael had nothing to do with, not because I'm anti-Branca or anti-Cascio. It's just that I want to re-live Michael, not a shadow of Michael.