Michael - The Great Album Debate

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Teddy sure knows how to stay and look young, lol.


It's not Teddy, it's a lookalike. :ph34r:

And the whole Cascio family are lookalikes hired by SONY. Remember , we're on the conspiracy side of the force.:ph34r:
 
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I can tell you for sure that's mimed, Michael Jackson does NOT sound like that. Seriously guys, listen to Monster (true Michael in all his glory) and then watch this video. Michael Jackson sounds nothing like the impostor you see above.

:lol:

Seriously, though, I was 6 years old when this aired, and I remember nothing of that show other than this performance. I remember it quite clearly.
 
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:lol:

Seriously, though, I was 6 years old when this aired, and I remember nothing of that show other than this performance. I remember it quite clearly.

1988? I was... -5 :p
 
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:lol:

Seriously, though, I was 6 years old when this aired, and I remember nothing of that show other than this performance. I remember it quite clearly.

1988? I was... -5 :p


I was 12, I could fully enjoy it :tease:
 
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I was 12, I could fully enjoy it :tease:


zip it!

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MAMA SAY ZIP IT! :lol:


Ok, I think I am gonna go pushing some buttons here and there. Would you mind directing for me?
 
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The biggest mystery to me is how the people who were putting this album together insisted on the cascio tracks so much. The moment there was talk about them possibly being fakes then they should have been removed. If that ment that the album would have been delayed for a few more months then so be it.


it's not really a mystery. Maybe they insist because they think those are nice tracks that could really help the album.

They are good songs. I like it better than other songs on the album.
 
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^^ Blasphemy...!! :bugeyed
 
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Disclaimer : I'm not writing this as a moderator.

Okay I'll be brutally honest - The above just shows how some "doubters" can be disrespectful of other people's opinions.

First of all as I did mention over and over again - I honestly and truly hear Michael on those songs, that has been my opinion since the first streaming of Breaking News and it has got nothing to do with legal perspectives, logic, statements etc.

Additionally if you read my posts despite my "belief" and "legal mumbo jumbo", you'll see me agree with people in regards to possibility of some events such as fooling the scientific tests and even saying that "I might be wrong". That's me acknowledging the possibilities even though I might not be agreeing with them. That's me being honest and realistic and not pushing my own opinions on people.

However as the above posts shows it seems that it's not even possible to get basic respect from some of the people with differentiating opinion because as you write it - I must have "inferior hearing, an ulterior motive, must be delusional, must be blindly accepting, lying to myself" and that's "it's absolutely not Michael" and "you are absolutely right and everyone is absolutely wrong". And personally I have a problem with this.

Honestly regardless of how strong and confident in your opinion you might be, you must be able to act respectfully to other people that doesn't share your opinions. You can easily think and act "I don't agree with anything you say but I'll respect it regardless".

Some of you ask why I wrote long posts well it's because I took other peoples's (long and detailed) posts seriously and believed that they deserved an equally thoughtful response. I did contact several active posers in this thread privately and I told them how I respect their discussions and their style in expressing their opinions. This hasn't changed for me.

And another brutally honest point - when I write something (anything about any subject) and the response I get is personal I really cannot take it seriously. Because if I write something and I'm wrong, people can easily demonstrate me that how I might be wrong (example : my discussions with Bumper and love is magical and Arklove and L.T.D. etc -sorry if I forgot to mention you here). However if I write something and all I get is personal insults and accusations , then I feel the people on the opposite side has nothing they can say about what I wrote and hence needed to resort to "below the belt" attacks.

I spent time on this thread because I believed there were people who had raised interesting points and had the knowledge and ability to respectfully continue the discussion and I though that this was a "debate" thread. If that's not the case please tell me so and I can happily stay out while you write the same thing (it's Jason) over and over for the 14,865th time or better yet discuss SpongeBob.

peace out.



Ivy,

You have my support. I enjoy reading your posts. So Please continue.
this is a debate and we need to have a balance of opinions.
 
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it's not really a mystery. Maybe they insist because they think those are nice tracks that could really help the album.

They are good songs. I like it better than other songs on the album.


WHAT DID YOU SAY?
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Truth be told, I find "Behind the Mask" and "Monster" to be the highlights of the album. Hell, I love "Breaking News" for its composition, it sounds so grand to me. Quality of vocals, not so much, but due to my beliefs I can forgive it.
 
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Best of Joy, Behind the Mask, Much Too Soon = masterpieces
 
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"Let me let go" a masterpiece
 
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Best of Joy, Behind the Mask, Much Too Soon = masterpieces

and KYHU, BN and Monster = what's the word.....?
 
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Let's put it this way. Those Cascio tracks could never DREAM of being in the same league as these masterpieces:

 
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Well, sorry but that's the truth. Music is subjective, and I like to listen to KYHU and MOnster more than other songs on the album.
 
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Breaking News is probably the worst song that I've ever heard in my life. It's absolutely abysmal and sounds as if it's been written by a child. And an uneducated, untalented one at that. Lyrically feeble, vocally abysmal, as a cohesive whole, disgraceful.

But that's just my opinion, right?

And in comparison to real Michael Jackson songs, it's nothing short of a joke.
 
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Just going back to this video that Pentum posted. What part of these vocals are NOT identical???

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I typically don't listen to comparison videos. They normally just compare very brief snippets of songs, as opposed to big chunks of it. If Malachi is the singer on the tracks, he's gonna have some semblance to Michael's voice, in order to fool people.
 
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Arklove, oustanding video, LOVE IT.

By the way, NEW VIDEO:

[youtube]YhetnRyYaIY[/youtube]

:punk:
 
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I typically don't listen to comparison videos. They normally just compare very brief snippets of songs, as opposed to big chunks of it. If Malachi is the singer on the tracks, he's gonna have some semblance to Michael's voice, in order to fool people.

If Malachi is the singer on the tracks, they would sound identical to his own songs which... they do.
 
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I typically don't listen to comparison videos.

Hence, you still believe you're listening to Michael Jackson. Fooling around. In a bad studio. With a PVC pipe.
 
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I have listened to comparison videos, but I find them too biased. Besides, that theory (minus using a PVC pipe for ALL the lines... As in, only the background vocals on "Monster") isn't implausible, nor impossible. Michael wasn't always about serious work.
 
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Arklove, oustanding video, LOVE IT.

By the way, NEW VIDEO:

[youtube]YhetnRyYaIY[/youtube]

:punk:

That final "BN Comparison" quadruple seals the deal for me. I had no doubts before but hey, the more proof the better ;)
 
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Arklove, oustanding video, LOVE IT.

By the way, NEW VIDEO:

[youtube]YhetnRyYaIY[/youtube]

:punk:

5:30 and on! WOW! Good comparison!
 
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Ivy,

You have my support. I enjoy reading your posts. So Please continue.
this is a debate and we need to have a balance of opinions.

If not for debating, dear Ivy, but for teaching us about the legal side of things.
For what I or other people maybe don't know about that yet ;).

I must add, I am a reader, there is not much I can add to the debate at this point, I'm not specialised in anything that could help...
But Ivy, I just want to say that I like reading you and I am very much interested in the legal story.
 
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I have listened to comparison videos, but I find them too biased. Besides, that theory (minus using a PVC pipe for ALL the lines... As in, only the background vocals on "Monster") isn't implausible, nor impossible.

It's so far from probable that it's all but impossible

Michael wasn't always about serious work.

Yes he was.
 
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So he was obsessed with work even while staying at a friend's house to relax? Michael was passionate about his profession, but he knew when to kick back and relax, even if that means some light recording. Hell, I can sing both passionately and half-heartedly, as I imagine everyone can, and as I could imagine Michael could've.
 
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